HOW IS NATIONAL SOCIALISM NOT SOCIALISM?

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>This is what Christians actually believe

what are you trying to say user?

It is but Obama isnt a Nationalist or a socialist. He is neoliberal.

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>HOW IS NATIONAL SOCIALISM NOT SOCIALISM?

"As a National Socialist, how would you define the difference between a National Socialist and a Communist?" - Rocky J. Suhayda
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The Differences Between Socialism and National Socialism
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How National Socialism is Different from Marxist Socialism
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Read a book nigger. Hitler purged the Strasserites for a reason. Also pic related

>Hitler purged the Strasserites for a reason.

There's literally nothing wrong with socialism.

The history of the entire world is the poor being fucked by the rich.

>There's literally nothing wrong with socialism.

Indeed, but "nothing in the wide world surpassing in his eyes this Germany, people and land", is this a reference to the state and overall country? What kind of economic policy and regulatory bodies could one expect from such a view point? Isn't that the absolute basis of Socialism? Trying to distribute wealth and benefit in the most egalitarian way among the people and land?

I'd love to give you a better answer but I'm not too up to speed on the economy of Hitler's Germany. I have a book in my reading list right now that I need to get around to. I know Hitler was in favor of things like private property though and the more left-wing of the NSDAP chimped out over that

This is consistent with the modern definition of Socialism, at least as people mean it when they say it in the modern context and admire Scandinavia or at the very least decry our modern Capitalist system. Socialism has nothing to do with property and individual meaning, so much as a simple matter of budget priorities, in this case, prioritizing society through regulation and limitation of freedom on corporations and individuals that would place themselves first. Capitalism has come to mean the exact opposite. That a prosperous nation is made up of prosperous individuals, and that those individuals and entities become as such by having the fewest amount of limitations aka regulations; it is then expected that these individuals will overflow in their magnanimity through charity and expansion of their business.
In short, what Hitler describes is exactly the modern definition of Socialism. Marxian Socialism has to do with the State and the individual, modern Socialism has only to do with the budget and the community

sure, but did he not seize control of industry and take over every area of society with big government interference? NATSOC is still a far left ideology is it not?

Under Communism, the people and the economy exist to serve the State.

Under Capitalism, the people and the state exist to serve the Economy.

Under National Socialism, the state and the economy exist to serve the homogeneous People.

>implying Obama was a nationalist

true, except every university student in America is also marxist

>sure, but did he not seize control of industry and take over every area of society with big government interference?
For the benefit of the people and to repair the broken economy.

>NATSOC is still a far left ideology is it not?
It, like Fascism is an ideology of truth.

this pic is exactly how I see the average nazi larper

This sounds absolutely ideal, but what I'm saying is that that sounds almost word for word what people mean when they talk about modern Socialism, especially in praising Scandinavian countries: they want a Society where the state and economy is geared towards the betterment of the people, through education, healthcare, and opportunity. It's tricky to really talk about this, especially from the place of an American, mostly because we have such a huge stake in our military. Often what people are talking about when they talk about Socialism in America is a redistribution of funding from the Military (mainly R&D, not nuts and bolts bullets, gas, military bases etc) to social causes such as education and healthcare

these niggers can't swallow these pills

How difficult a time (((they))) would have if Hitler always smiled in pictures.

>How difficult a time (((they))) would have if Hitler always smiled in pictures.
It's why you never, ever see his speeches translated into english when they show him in those history channel documentaries. Because they don't want you agreeing with what he was saying.

I would say college "Democratic Socialists" are Marxist insofar as most people who identify themselves as National Socialists are Fascists. Centrist Liberalism is in too deep in American and Western culture for such things to expressed sincerely, both individually and publicly/popularly.

>, but what I'm saying is that that sounds almost word for word what people mean when they talk about modern Socialism,
Well of course what marxian socialists say and do are two different things. You just can't trust commies to tell you the truth because Communism is Jewish.

NatSoc's say what they mean and mean what they say.

>Often what people are talking about when they talk about Socialism in America is a redistribution of funding from the Military (mainly R&D, not nuts and bolts bullets, gas, military bases etc) to social causes such as education and healthcare
What they really mean is stealing money and power from those they consider "rich" and giving it to their own party for the purpose of being rich while being in power.

under National Socialism property rights are taken more seriously than they are under liberal capitalism.

Holy shit you caught me with that good job

fuck you faggot

>What they really mean is stealing money and power from those they consider "rich"

This is absolutely the case, and is probably the source of my hopelessness at actually seeing meaningful social democracy come about in America. Granted we've only had one self described Democratic Socialist candidate (Sanders) and he was hardly a numbers guy. Maybe as the parties drift and redefine themselves (the Right getting more overtly Nationalist, the Left getting more overtly Socialist) we'll actually get a candidate on the left that can speak clearly about the process and logistics of bringing that kind of thing about in a meaningful, but also moral, way. People are impatient.

Also wanted to clarify that my vision for America's future is these two shifted parties (Right Nationalist, Left Socialist) coming together in a third party candidate that can effectively and fluently speak to both strengths and bring about an (at first) Civic National Socialist revolution in America

>This is absolutely the case, and is probably the source of my hopelessness at actually seeing meaningful social democracy come about in America.
This country was lost as soon as one side (conservatives/republicans) believed they were better people for allowing those who wish to destroy this country (Communists/liberals/democrats) to be allowed to have a say in this country.

Instead of having debates and votes with those people we should be shooting them. You don't try to debate a bear that is trying to eat you after all, you shoot it.

> Granted we've only had one self described Democratic Socialist candidate (Sanders) and he was hardly a numbers guy. Maybe as the parties drift and redefine themselves (the Right getting more overtly Nationalist, the Left getting more overtly Socialist) we'll actually get a candidate on the left that can speak clearly about the process and logistics of bringing that kind of thing about in a meaningful, but also moral, way. People are impatient.
The purpose of Democracy is to prevent change.

As long as we rely on voting in an attempt to save ourselves nothing good will occur.

>Also wanted to clarify that my vision for America's future is these two shifted parties (Right Nationalist, Left Socialist) coming together in a third party candidate that can effectively and fluently speak to both strengths and bring about an (at first) Civic National Socialist revolution in America
Which will still result in the extinction of the White race in North America. Which in turn will cause the collapse of the country. Because after all, society is race based. The only reason this country achieved what it did was because it was a White nation.

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Hitler wasn't an egalitarian, Hitler believed in a meritocracy and self determination, these are hardly egalitarian beliefs.

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>Oh wait, it is.
And?

But the Holocaust didn't happen and the allies started the war...

But Communism is Jewish and National Socialism isn't...

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This is the most boomer tier ignorance, honestly shit tier memes.

But the gas chambers didn't exist...

>Instead of having debates and votes with those people we should be shooting them.

Sounds expensive desu.

>The purpose of Democracy is to prevent change.

That seems almost oxymoronic, could you elaborate? It would not change because it would always be the will of the people or what?

>Which will still result in the extinction of the White race in North America

North America is going to undergo an ethnogensis over the next 500 years. I wonder if 1940's Germans felt the sting of having descended from low IQ barbarians who had roamed their lands and interbred so much that there ceased to be genetic variation, before their blood was declared "German"

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I don't get it. Is the jew happy with my post? Why would a Jew be happy with my post which does nothing but explain Hitler's policies?

got me

>Sounds expensive desu.
Never said doing the right thing would be easy.

>That seems almost oxymoronic, could you elaborate?
Notice how all the candidates are virtually identical except on a few hot button issues?

Notice how none of the candidates will actually do anything to save the White race?

Notice how Whites will never be allowed to vote for our racial survival or freedom from our enemies?

Democracy placates us into inaction.

> It would not change because it would always be the will of the people or what?
You are given a choice between two sides of the same shekel. It dosn't matter if you pick heads or tails, you know who is holding the coin.

>North America is going to undergo an ethnogensis over the next 500 years.
In 100 years or so there won't be anymore Whites and then you'll see this continent resemble Africa or South America.

> I wonder if 1940's Germans felt the sting of having descended from low IQ barbarians who had roamed their lands and interbred so much that there ceased to be genetic variation, before their blood was declared "German"
youtube.com/watch?v=hIb413cZvZM

I’m okay with my taxes helping other white families. I’m not okay with my taxes helping niggers, illegals, single moms, feminists, etc.

OP BTFO

KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT ASS NIGGER

Good talking, I'm gonna get off but I'll watch that video. America's fucked, but I do have hope for our people. Take care

Not all property rights; just the property rights of those they favour.

National Socialism and Marxist Socialism are not the same thing. If you think they're the same just because they have "socialist" in the name then you probably also believe butterflies are made of butter.

Also, Obama was not even a socialist, he was a free trade neoliberal.

>Not all property rights; just the property rights of those they favour.
Under National Socialism you are allowed to make money and be successful...just as long as it doesn't come at the expense of the people.

Exporting your labor to China to save a buck wouldn't be allowed for example because it would put Whites out of work and make the nation reliant on a non-White nation for their survival.

Yes, for big companies there was a maximum % of profit they were allowed to keep.
It works if you dont have niggers.

National socialism is just a cover, a name for something else.

We want to get rid of Islam and Niggers, a handful want ethno race government, but in reality, we just want to be left alone, sorda kinda.

We just want to be rid of fanatics and retards and want kind of a closed communism surrounded by heavy millitary, like a Twinky sort of.

>National socialism is just a cover, a name for something else.
>we just want to be left alone, sorda kinda.
That's White Separatism.

Communism, National Socialism and American Socialism were all funded by the exact same people.
You've all been played as pawns.

youtube.com/watch?v=DilIn9ffRFA

10/10 shitpost. I like it.

>Communism, National Socialism and American Socialism were all funded by the exact same people.
Hitler Arrested Baron Louis De Rothschild
beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2015/09/hitler-arrested-baron-louis-de-rothschild-2449826.html
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Hitler versus Rothschild
youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7F3OYhp4Q

Hitler Was Not a Rothschild or a Zionist Agent - William Finck
mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-was-not-rothschild-or-zionist-agent

Hitler's Speech Against the International Bankers, Warmongers, England
youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3aKE4M5bk

How Hitler Defied the International Bankers
archive.org/details/HowHitlerDefiedTheInternationalBankers

Hitler arrested him, and then let him go in exchange for more money to run the war machine.
He had a Rothschild and he let him go.

Hitler was brought in by the Banker Emil George Von Stauss who helped the Nazi's come into power for the bankers. He was a Rothschild puppet.

He met with the Zionists and made a deal called the Haavara Agreement which would allow Jews to go live in Palestine

He gave speeches against Jews, but never actually did anything to them, other than remove them from society. Meaning that they did not have to fight in a war. And by the end of the war the rest of the world was willing to create Israel and defend it forever. Nobody did more for the Jews than Hitler.

Hitler worked with the International Bankers through the Bank of International Settlements and continued to get gold from them through the war.
Everything that was said, was intended for your ears. While the truth of the matter was different. He did not defy them at all. They had a plan that allowed Germany to work at peak capacity.
youtube.com/watch?v=veQfroRUWdM

The only thing people get wrong is when they say he was a Jew. He probably wasn't. He just worked for them.

>state not shareholder
>socialism
?????

it's socialist, but not marxist

>He probably wasn't.
Ancestry of Adolf Hitler - Jennifer Rosenberg
history1900s.about.com/od/hitleradolf/a/hitlerancestry.htm
archive.is/MqOr

The Fake Legends of Adolf Hitler's Jewish Grandfather - Carolyn Yeager
carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler’s-“jewish-grandfather”
archive.is/k0f34

Hitler Jewish?
holocaust-history.org/questions/hitler-jewish.shtml
archive.is/GiRKh

Hitler Was a Jew / Rothschild Debunked in Under Sixty Seconds
youtube.com/watch?v=hE0gu5cjwCo

Hitler Was Not a Rothschild or a Zionist Agent - William Finck
mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-was-not-rothschild-or-zionist-agent

Jew or Not Jew: Adolf Hitler
jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=358
archive.is/Aod6d

Lineage of Adolf Hitler
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lineage_of_Adolf_Hitler
archive.is/gI7tI

Was Adolf Hitler Jewish? - John Toland
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitlerjew.html
archive.is/IrLUs

Was Hitler Jewish? - Daniel Mallia
hnn.us/article/142825
archive.is/DYoNk

>He just worked for them.
Do you think the Holocaust happened too?

Right, I have no problem with that. I never thought he was a Jew.

>Do you think the Holocaust happened too?
You didn't even bother to read a word I wrote

Hey, lets make our countries homogeneous first, We can experiment with different governments when our children and grandchildren can live safely.

your image is an interesting take on it, and it actually meshes pretty well with my spiritual beliefs.

Masculine and Feminine turning in tandem, but it can stop and turn the opposite direction. The wall itself is the ultimate feminine energy, but must be 'constructed' by the ultimate masculine energy. the ultimate feminine says "enough", and the masculine recognizes the truth of the situation and turns to hold the line.

the shift will destroy the "evil" masculine forces that "disobey" the ultimate masculine as they don't stop and crash amongst the wall (strengthened and fortified by the "good" masculine and feminine, "will of god" so to speak). The intensity and awfulness of the 'clash' will depend on the amount of energy put into the masculine energies, but it can be lessened by energy put into the feminine.

Right now, we're building up for a big shift. The marxists are putting tons of masculine energy into the females (they understand enough of reality to recognize the importance of the feminine in chosing the victor, so to speak), so eventually they'll be the big loser of this paradigm shift.

Who will defeat them, however, remains to be seen. I'm pretty sure the core of the movement is already beginning to blossom, but I don't think it'll be "right-wing" or even natsoc. the propaganda is too intense for most people, I think, and we'd have to fuck things up majorly in order to 'reset' the worldview of mainstream culture.

My hope is that it's libertarian in nature, with lots of natsoc influences and a major emphasis on freedom of speech and gun rights. natsoc has such a beautiful way of looking at nationhood, culture, and race. it's just easy to make ugly, too.

The biggest hurdle is going to be how to deal with the feminine and women. right now, the right has bad optics, even when they're 100% correct. the lies are too big, so I'm hoping we can figure out a way to revamp the modern woman without triggering normies

no he didn’t seize industry or the banks at all, complete bullshit

Socialism tries to give away a nation's wealth primarily to foreigners that have invaded the land.
National socialism tries to care for its own people and exempts foreigners from benefits. (And privileges.)

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