Is our existence really that insignificant?

Is our existence really that insignificant?

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Yes

It's all about perspective.
For example: you don't matter, but I do.

Have you ever read/listened to the Quran? This is an English audio interpretation if you haven't listened to it before.

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Yes

Not until we start colonizing space and create a galactic-scale civilization that lasts billions of years.

You're a by-product of entropy resisting istelf, able to consciously iteract with and perceive a limited portion of reality, thus creating meaning for yourself/your fellow humans.

There is no such thing as objective significance.

So... you decide.

"space" is fantasy
we under a water dome nigga

Universe has no value what so ever without something to interpret said value.

Read the arguments of Godel, Leibniz, Descartes, William Lane Craig, Nicolas Malebranche or George Berkeley. If the first principles/axioms are true then the whole arguments are true. God's existence is possible.

No. It's a participatory universe. There is no reality with out us. If there were no consciousnesses there would be no data streams rendered.

That's right

Do you think right now at this moment some aliens are fapping to 2D loli porn?

>UK flag

the memes make themselves

Yes. Even worse, there are more universes like ours than we can count.

maybe demons
aliens would most likely be advanced enough to insert themselves into a 2d loli sim

It depends.

We don't yet know for a fact that life is rampant in the universe. It's highly likely, but we just don't know yet.

So there are 3 possibilities:
A) Life and intelligent life is widespread throughout the universe so we are about as significant as one grain of sand on a beach.
B) Life is widespread but not intelligent life, making us more "important" but only in a statistical, probabilities way.
C) Life is very rare or perhaps unique to Earth and we are the special snowflake of all special snowflakes.

James Webb telescope and other studies should give us the answer in the coming decades. I'd love to know before I croak.

Nah, yours doesn't matter either.
We can pretend that we matter and that we're the heroes of this story, which makes us feel good, but ultimately it's not true, we're not even side characters.

>believing that cgi shit

The earth is flat, fucking globie.

At the scale of the entire universe? Of course not. On the scale of the entire world? Obviously not unless you're a leader of a leading country or a revolutionary scientist. On the scale of your friends, family and job? Yes.

The meaning of life is to survive and reproduce. The meaning of your existence is what you make it.

yes

i swear to god i see merchant in that

Our consciousness is what gives us significance-- not how much of the universe we inhabit. Inner space is more important than outer space. As above so below and all that bullshit

Our existences are insignificant even on our own planet, someone can die and 99,9...% won't even notice. Our existence means absolutely nothing for the universe.

>meaning of life is to survive and reproduce

Nope, there is only 1 life. Don't waste it as a woman, build something for your family.

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>At the scale of the entire universe? Of course not.

You mean of course. The universe is literally incomprehensibly vast. One planet is insignificant even to this galaxy.

No, you exist to serve the Lord your God

What if life exists to cater for a self learning entity that drives life everywhere in everyform?
Learning and diverging until it becomes perfect?

Especially yours

>Is our existence really that insignificant?
Yours is.

We are the only thing that matters in the universe

yes

God is

How anyone can fathom that expanse and label transcendence as a fairy tale is absurd

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I'm drunk and don't want to waste it, tl;dr pls.

this isn't dragonball the universe will die and so will everything in it

Did you even read the next sentence, negro?
That's what I said though?

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Would you still believe in god if alien life was found and confirmed on another planet, asteroid or in space?

no, Sw*de

I don't believe in God now, but if I did, I don't think it would contradict his existence.

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Why are you muslims so afraid of criticism?

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How about intelligent life?

>british flag
gtfo jafar

Yes, without vodka

nah

Yes. I can't think of a reason why the existence of alien life and the existence of God would be mutually exclusive.

if it is not sentient then it would be ignored. if it is sentient then the biggest threat would probably be to monotheism but we have lived with a pantheon before.

Insignificance is an illusion. Everything is of infinite value.

Give birth to and nourish all things without desiring to possess them. Give of yourself, without expecting something in return. Assist people, but do not attempt to control them. This is how to realize the deep virtue of the universe.

Love and understanding are synonymous.

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I was thinking about that we are trapped not only in our bodies but in the body of something infinitive, like vodka

Wow what a retarded thread

>allah
>union jack

fucking kek

Good point actually

Still wouldn't think it would be absolute contradiction. I know Christian faith implies that especially we were created, but it doesen't imply there couldn't be others that were created too. There could be 100 different planets with intelligent populations and they were mentioned to us as little as we were mentiond to them in each's own holy texts.

We get to choose the degree of significance we attach to our existence. That's about the only choice we have.

>cheap shot
>limited human knowledge
>thermodynamics..
>entropy

Who's to say the universe's expansion isn't the eventual cause of the 'big bang'

okay, but why?

Not for you. For you it's literally everything that there is.

The universe exists for you. Even I exist for you user.

existence is only insignificant if you can not assign value to anything.

Just the opposite.

You are one of few lifeforms in that winding infinite void.

Appreciate it.

Yes. At least until we can get to a K2 level civilization. Then we can use a Nicoll-Dyson beam to cleanse the galaxy of degenerate filth.

Ja.

yes, enjoy it while you can

maybe, whats more sad is that we got to spend our existence working jobs we hate

If evolution is true and the fundamental particles of life formed on this planet by complete random chance, that chance is so miniscule that there is no way it can happen twice, no matter how big the universe is. We are entirely alone, the only life in the entire universe, so from that perspective, we are incredibly significant.

Europa is the answer user, below its 12km thick ice surface there is a liquid water ocean planetwide that is literally 32Km deep and with temperatures good enough for life to even exist

Call it nature if u prefer, baltische

Just because there's trillions more stars in our galaxy and trillions of galaxies doesn't mean they're in any way more special than our system, yes, we're not unique, but they aren't either, so to ourselves we are significant. It's not like it matters anyway when we can't even go to any of these places.

Yes, in fact, God will tell me to purge it for only a human run universe is holy.

But what is satisfying is that everyone has aproximately 100 years to live, even the assholes who are 10 times more succesful than we are will die just like us and we'll all be equal stardust.

There is no reason, we just exist so that we breed and keep existing. Our goal is not to die as spieces.

We're like a virus, we have to spread as much as we can.

That's every single living thing's goal.

For now, but the amount of time that mankind has been around for is equally insignificant. Even the shortest lived of the dinosaurs were around for tens of millions of years. We are but mere infants on the shores of time, unable to comprehend comprehend all but the most basic details of our own existence.

>It's not like it matters anyway when we can't even go to any of these places.
But we can. We just need bigger and better rockets.

>if a tree falls in the woods

Bruh that aint how protons & electrons act. This shit was gonna happen wether someone or something witnessed it or not.
Stop thinking through the view of your own perception & consciousness. Instead think about what you, me, and everything else is made of in this universe.
Atoms don’t give a fuck if you were here or not, it was and is gonna happen... whatever happens.

Everything is just an algorithm of positive and negative charges via protons neutrons, electrons etc. Even our minds.

Why do people think relativity only works in the vast, empty, black sense. It's in the fucking word.

I see it too.

With crispr that wont be a problem anymore, inmortality is already a thing, although none of us here will be able to enjoy that, it would have to be a genetically engineered baby

Yes because we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe. The Fermi paradox is real. Don't fuck it up.

We need a space ship that can produce its own fuel to get anywhere. Ship with enough fuel for intergalactic travel can't be lifted from Earth. Right now bigger rocket means we could get just maybe get to Mars and land safely with other than rovers, I'm not sure but I think they've been parachuted so far so it's a one way trip to even Mars with best of our technology.

But if nothing experienced it it might as well have happened all at once.
From an objective standpoint we are meaninglessness.
From a meta-standpoint we are incredibly significant.

>is already a thing
No it isn't. Nobody is experiencing it.

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>randomness

Youre all a bunch off fucking newfags on spacetravel arent you? Google Project Orion, Solar sail, alcubierre drive, etc, we just need more funding going to nasa and less to wars

I have one of those

Have you ever died? That

Because stupid laws retard, its illegal to genetically alter humans in such a way

>mfw see flag

Sadly not.

reminded me of this

considering that life may be an extremely anomalous occurrence it's arguable that our presence here as observers of creation is very significant
depends on how you look at it, like most things

You wanna end up like the head of the Illuminati from deus ex?

merry christmas

Maybe, maybe not?

no way to get to a K2 civilization with all the jew infestation humanity suffers from. We'll have to clean our house before heading to the stars.

We’re literally just a bunch of organic sacks of actively circulating blood and meat.
If you actually think about what we are as “things” existing. It’s pretty fucking disgusting and terrifying to think about.
Our bodies is just some fucked up disgusting primitive vessel for the electrical impulses in our brains to operate so we as a “person” can expierince a peice of thing.. in this place.. which is cold, dark, vastly uninhabitable, and void.

Due to the laws of physics in this universe, the Earth acts as a pseudoprision for life. Where we as little bloodsacks can never ever leave (on just our physical form alone)
We are basically a fucking advanced enough replicating virus and in today’s age we are entering the stage of extremely fast viral advancement.

Think of you, your life, your mind. Your thoughts. In theory, it could exist without this blood capsule of a body. We are trapped in this unexplained area and we are unable to leave our vessels and unable to leave our planet.
Think of how fucked up our existence is. What we are, where we are and fucking how we are.

>TL:DR
We are trapped inside sacks of fluids and tubes of circulating blood that is inevitably mortal
We are further trapped on this planet with little to no chance of getting anywhere else

Fuck humanity, upload me into a network already. Preferably as a 8 year old loli.