The problem with the Alt Right is that you don't actually think for yourselves; you're only willing to question the...

The problem with the Alt Right is that you don't actually think for yourselves; you're only willing to question the mainstream narrative, not the Sup Forums narrative. You're being lied to just as much as you're lying to others.

Why is it, Sup Forums you immediately distrust ALL mainstream science that fails to support your 'feels' while trusting Kremlin propaganda, neo-Nazi blogs, and unsourced jpegs?

This is a two-say street indeed; you want to be radicalised. You don't want to leave the echo chamber because all your 'meaning' and 'community' comes from Sup Forums.

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rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Weinberg
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/329/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Scarr
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

its true

I disagree with plenty on Sup Forums. But I agree with the main stuff.

Quick diagram of what I think happens.

You're confusing scepticism with pyrrhonism.

big if true

No

Why is it that left wing talking heads like John Oliver and Stephen Colbert will trust Climate scientists, but are afraid of the IQ and race as shown by longitudinal and twin studies?

Yes.
Change "real scepticism" in the upper right corner to "pyrrhonism" now.

Same, in fact, I know that Sup Forums disagrees with me on a lot of things and it makes me kinda sad sometimes to know that I don't have a clan with the exact same goal as I do.

You seem to be implying that scientists support a biological link between race and IQ. Scientists don't even support race as a concept.

can you link to some sources of this? i never actually have seen any but would like to read about it more

Do you believe that Russian state hackers hacked the DNC and leaked info to wikileaks?

I feel the same way.

Don't feel bad French bro. Dogmatic obediance to ideologies is for brainlets. Men like me and you are the thought leaders of the future.

>just as much
>not 1000 times more

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism
Seems like a good summary of the position

Is that what they're saying? Idk.

Sup Forums in a nutshell.

Oh, skepticism is supposed to indicate movement

All the mainstream "science" you're referencing (which I would assume is about gender and race) has been readily debunked, because it's all part of the same pseudoscientific sociology bullshit. The methodology is flawed to the core, and it's essentially like a religion, where they start with the premise, and try to prove it by cherry picking what they want, and leaving out the overwhelming amount of evidence that contradicts their narrative.

Meanwhile, most of the infographic stuff you see on Sup Forums is both sourced and backed up by science.

The only bad thing you find on Sup Forums is all the conspiracy theory bullshit.

150 years ago it was illegal to teach a negro to read and write. Today it's almost impossible.

Just a no brainer here.
Anyone who thought Trump collusion was real, anyone who thought Trump was going to or is going to be impeached, and anyone who claims any trumps political actions are racist are all perfect examples of people who can't think for themselves.
Seriously people, these people are the morons of the country.
Go ahead and say I support Trump because this offends you. Prove how retarded you are.

The Alt-Right isn't even real

Pol is a containment board its literally in the rules youre not allowed to call for a pol raid on reddit

>implying the "alt-right" isn't something the msm made up to paint anything right of abbie hoffman as nahzees
kys faggot
>in all fields

>All the mainstream "science" you're referencing (which I would assume is about gender and race) has been readily debunked, because it's all part of the same pseudoscientific sociology bullshit. The methodology is flawed to the core, and it's essentially like a religion, where they start with the premise, and try to prove it by cherry picking what they want, and leaving out the overwhelming amount of evidence that contradicts their narrative.
You'll have to elaborate on the flaws. If there were errors in methodology then anybody would be able to point it out and find correct results.

>Meanwhile, most of the infographic stuff you see on Sup Forums is both sourced and backed up by science.
It's usually science that has been rejected from the mainstream for good reason.

>The problem with the Alt Right is
You want to know what the real problem with the 'Alt-Right' is? It's as follows:

> They care more about what conservative assets are actually saying, rather than if they are actively fighting against liberal Marxism.
> They actively fight against females attaining a position within the 'Alt-Right' movement, instead of directing them to be a 'e-celebrities' for disenfranchised young females looking for direction.
> Instead of the 'Alt-Right' actually leading disenfranchised young whites back to 'white culture', it's being used as a loose platform to splinter this movement into a thousand pieces.

Now, what is 'white culture'?

> Conservativism
> Tradition
> Holding education in a higher regard than entertainment. Furthering ones own education should BE ones entertainment.
> Physical fitness
> Expanding ones knowledge on current political affairs
> Indulging within philosophies and different philosophers
> Try to attain additional cultural skills
> Try to attain a useful education
> Join the military in a RELEVANT job area (OSI, CID, Security Forces, MP, Military Intelligence, Linguist, etc.)
> Begin networking within your area to find like-minded individuals

One final thing they SHOULD be doing, yet aren't is:

> Forming University frats/clubs around the reintroduction into ones heritage, history, culture, etc.

They have a golden opportunity here, yet are probably doing absolutely nothing about it. They should attempt to get these people while they're at their most vulnerable and willing to listen (students) like the Marxists do.

You mean your ((scientist)).

But I do question the Sup Forums narrative. A fuckton of it, actually. I didn't support Sup Forums's anti-net neutrality drive (though I discovered the bit of nuance that fucks the situation up), as an example.

I don't distrust MSM either. If it's low-impact news, I have no reason to. That's actually why the MSMv is so insidious - 98% of the time the reporting is on point, just that the 2% of the time it's the things that are politically important. Apply brain.

Also, I feel no community on Sup Forums. Half of the people on here are libertarians; half of those left are shills; 80% of those left after THAT peddle falsehoods even unknowingly.

Have you considered a lot of the people on here though have came to these conclusions through hard inquiry?

>everything I don't like is Jewish

Einstein's theories on physics were rejected by the mainstream science community at the time does it invalidate what he theorized? This is my problem with burgers your quick to commit an appeal to authority fallacy because you lack critical thinking skills. And anyone who has an IQ higher than 90 and isn't a docile sheep come to conclusion by doing their own research you dismissed them and say " hurr durr these group of scientists say they won't accept what you said even though they haven't refuted any of your points". And what makes it worse is that you take pride in it.

>he thinks scientists haven't engaged with and debunked racialism decades ago
>he thinks I'm committing 'le argument from authority' when I'm doing nothing of the kind, meanwhile ignores his own side being founded completely on rejecting all science as 'controlled by Jews'

Also getting your entire ideology from Sup Forums is not 'doing your own research'

What I'm trying to say scientist nowadays are nothing more than tools to the political establishment. If they discover something controversial like the existence of race or the correlation between race and IQ they would get ostracized by the mainstream science community. Not because what they say is wrong but it seems "politically incorrect " . And yes Jews have infiltrated our academic institutions.

i mean this page cites pic related as an example of racialism, but that was a fucking parody, a joke.

also the "coloured family" pic on the bottom looks ugly as fuck and i dont want to be around them. im sure the page is accurate but that doesn't make me any more excited about bulbous nosed, ugly motherfuckers roaming around who suck at speaking english

>The problem with the Alt Right
is that it doesn't exist. It's a leftist boogeyman. Yes, people were stupid enough to fall for it, you included.

I have never seen such willful ignorance and systematic mental gymnastics on one webpage in my entire life. Unbelievable.

Alt Right is an umbrella term. It exists insofar as its definition fits what currently exists

If you say racist or sexist things without evidence then you might face some condemnation. But doing science is fine.
Look at this guy:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Weinberg

I stopped coming here after Charlottesville but stop by every once in a while to laugh at newfags. Lapping up the jew meme, thinking they're intellectuals, it's fucking hilarious.

>Scientists don't even support race as a concept
Yes they do thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/329/

Read it all, don't just quit because you don't like it. My guess is you're insisting that race 'doesn't really mean that' and just describes a social construct based on skin color.

i thought it was funny how they put Serena and Venus williams on there to "disprove" racists, like im pretty sure people don't complain about blacks being too athletic, lol and "black people can't swim" like that's ever been anything more than a joke.

pic related is what i just mentioned, everyone in here looks so fucking UGLY to me that i was like, i don't even care about what i just read about there being no "race," i don't want to look at these people, that's literally all i need to want them away from me, no matter how many scientific articles are thrown at me.

It's an umbrella term created by the left, whose characteristics are defined by the left. It's as useless as tits on a goose.

No. Its more like I want the Nazi's to come back to help equalize this.

I question pretty much everything. That's how I got here.

>trusting Kremlin propaganda
What exactly is it that you believe Putin is up to?

>is that it doesn't exist.
To say that those of European heritage aren't becoming more racially aware is nothing short of an understatement. I certainly wouldn't classify it as 'Alt-Right' myself, as Richard Spencer did for the accruement of money and fame; but I absolutely would say something of worth IS there regardless. With that being stated, there is an opportunity to begin forming organizations such as 'fraternities' and 'clubs' within campus' that focus on reintroducing those of European heritage, to their culture. At the very least this would help guide those looking for an identity, back towards racial awareness.

With emphasis being placed within the following:

> Comradery
> Physical Fitness
> Education on European history
> Perhaps some genealogy tests (from an approved non-Jewish source) so people can find what they are and where they came from, while reconnecting with that history.
> Guiding young whites towards attaining the right skill sets and professions
> Etc.

There's a tremendous opportunity within this 'Alt-Right' movement to expand significantly, without relying on arguments such as "we supreme and sheeeeeiiiiiitttt!" That will never gain a significant following. Reconnecting with ones heritage and securing Europe and a European homeland is an enticing argument that has the ability to continually persuade young white ostracized individuals just looking for a place in this world.

>Scientists don't even support race as a concept.
Scientists in China do, in South Korea, in Japan, in Singapore. And even scientists in the West know race is a biologically valid classification, they just downplay this because of politics in academia and greater society.

> Comradery
> Physical Fitness
> Education on European history
> frats, clubs on campus for europeans
sounds cool as fuck honestly. plus, you get the bonus of getting banned or rejected in trying to start them, which gives you slave morality, you can then say you're oppressed and develop rigtheousness (currently lacking?)

>he thinks scientist haven't engaged with and debunked racialism decades ago.
No they haven't all they did is just say it doesn't exist, and that anyone that dare comes to the conclusion it does is racist and deserves to be ostracized.
>he thinks I'm committing 'le argument from authority when I'm doing nothing of the kind meanwhile ignoreso his own side"
First, you clearly said that the things we cited are usually science that has been rejected(not refuted) from mainstream for a good reason. Which is why I brought up the appeal to authority fallacy.Second, what do you mean ignoring my own side? Sup Forums is not one person you shit for brains. This isn't like Facebook or Twitter were you can only find conservatives and liberals, this is Sup Forums one of the few places on the Internet where you can find actual nazis, communist, facist,crusaders, ancaps, anarcho-communist and national bolsheviks duke it out.
>being founded completely on rejecting all science as controlled by Jews"
Who's rejecting science? If what we were saying was already been debunked then the people who actually draw than conclusion wouldn't be ostracized and we wouldn't be having this conversation today.And yes Jews have a large presence in our academia, look at the frankfurt school.

>There are no races, there are only clines.
—Frank B. Livingstone, 1962
You can tell jews make this garbage up. 99.9% of jew arguments are based on semantics. I guess niggers are an inferior cline then.

>niggers are an inferior cline then.
you fucking clinist

Sure senpai, I can see from your flag you clearly are a gentleman of whom no-one would accuse of having a belief system or dare I say a 'bias' one way or another.

I can perhaps see your meaning though, in a world of people who think differently to us, we must take what everyone says, even those we trust, with a pinch of salt.

You're probably a jew.

>It's usually science that has been rejected from the mainstream for good reason.
Yeah, the good reason being, if you don't dismiss racial science, then you're drummed out of academia by Jews and their leftist golems.

Even that shows a majority reject the idea, especially among anthropologists and especially in North America and West Europe (China and East Europe seem more likely to use outdated concepts to me)

Putting out propaganda to make people lose trust in their governments, and make Russia look good

>you don't want to leave your echo chamber
>rest of the website non-stop bitches because apparently we won't stay here
Which is it!

This is why I’m catholic

I just want to watch jews get genocided.

>Comradery
>> Physical Fitness
>> Education on European history
>> Perhaps some genealogy tests (from an approved non-Jewish source) so people can find what they are and where they came from, while reconnecting with that history.
>> Guiding young whites towards attaining the right skill sets and professions
>> Etc.
Are not supposed principles of the alt-right. The left gave it other characteristics, which is evident based off OP. Your definition sounds more like traditional conservatism, not some radical alternate type of conservatism.

You believe Einstein's theories even though he's Jewish? You're making progress, I'm proud of you user.

>Einstein's theories
You know he stole most of his 'theory' from others right? His Jewishness is what made him famous.

can you post more of the girls on the pic? at least the one on the right

>not the Sup Forums narrative.

Sup Forums is always right, faggot, why would I question the narrative that's correct all the time when leftism and the "mainstream narrative" are pure dogshit meant for brain-dead city-dwelling liberal retards who only want confirmation bias for proven failed views and ideals?

Oh now its just the majority, I see. Also its mostly Anthropologists, in medicine for example race difference is clearly taught. Tried to read it further?

If I made conclusions that YOU see as racist then I WILL face ALOT of condemnation.Fixed that for you.

A consensus of experts says something, but appeals to authority and appeals to consensuses are logical fallacies.

>spooky trips
>this guy gets it
This old boy has a firm grasp on things. I SECOND THIS

Common sense is not feels. If we take in a bunch of niggers in our countries will it change them for the worse? Yes. Do I want that? No. Why? Because I live here, my kids live here, my grandkids will live here and I don't want it ruined. We built it, it's ours, I think we should defend it. Most ethnic groups have their own countries and they should live there. If their country is shit, that means the people of that country turned it to shit and if they want to have a better life they have to build it. I care more about my dog than I do a kebab technician, a gook, a nigger or a pasta cunt. That's right Italians, fuck you. You are not white. When I grew up we had one half belgian girl in our class and she was bullied for being a fucking nigger. Half belgian. I still believe she is a subhuman. Now imagine what I think of you half niggers around the med. Hitler did at most 2-3 things wrong and gassing the jews and the fags was not two of them. Have a nice day America. Try not to OD on the oxy. Or do, you'll get shot any way.

>Sup Forums
>alt-right
Pick one then kill yourself famalam

>scientists in the West know race is a biologically valid classification, they just downplay this because of politics
>No they haven't all they did is just say it doesn't exist, and that anyone that dare comes to the conclusion it does is racist and deserves to be ostracized.
M-m-my delusions are totally true

I disagree with plenty of Sup Forums , for example:
- I do not think mixed background whites (aka americans) should be called mutts
- I disagree with shifting all the blame to jews, I have huge problems with islam and muslims
- I disagree that all problems are solved by wiping out the jews (although it would help). We have massive problems in our educational system, gang violence, addiction to pills and booze etc
- I disagree with a lot of stuff said on homosexuality and transgenderism
- I disagree with almost every climate 'skeptic'
- I have big problems with Christianity
Etc.

I don't see this as an echo chamber.

>And what we see is that, at all levels of education, Biologists are more likely to recognize race than Physical Anthropologists. At the PhD level, in 1983-1984, Biologists were 1.46 times more likely to accept race.

They're not really Einstein's theories, Einstein plagiarized heavily from Poincarre, Michelson and Lorentz.

Wrong. I regularly read the other sides thought leaders like Quigley and Brezynski. Reinforces my affiliation

OP doesn't even read this board. Sup Forums uses Jews own Anti-White words to reinforce our views. No need for Russia or Stormfags or unsubstantiated memes. We just read Haaretz.com, theJerusalemPost, and politician and Jewish activist own quotes to prove our position.

I see you ignored all the sourced data in my infographic to instead make an informationally empty snarky remark. Very telling.

Yes, a two thirds majority in Western societies.
And that's on the source chosen by a clearly racist blog.

You know the inventor of double helix? James Watson, he actually got ostracized for his "racist" beliefs

No I'm trying to make a point because judging how OP is talking he already believes Einstein is a genius so I used him so he/she could understand. I do know that he toke credit from other lesser known scientist.

>hurr you didn't take half an hour to respond to my meme jpeg, that means my delusions are true!!!

Yes I do, I was just trying to make a point since OP wouldn't know.

i agree with Sup Forums about blacks, zionism, finance capital, isolationism, arab muslims, islam, immigration, welfare, masculinity, women, the democrats and eugenics (sort of); everything else is fucking stupid

>Your definition sounds more like traditional conservatism, not some radical alternate type of conservatism.
Well, if one looks at true traditional conservatism, it holds a lot of the same characteristics as fascism. With that being said, simply forming 'conservative frats/clubs' that hold an emphasis on actually improving oneself instead of attending parties would be a rather large step in the right direction itself.

>you get the bonus of getting banned or rejected in trying to start them
One could make a solid case of similar frats being formed for non-whites (African American clubs, Mestizo clubs, Indian clubs, etc) With that being said, requirements wouldn't have to be specifically 'Europeans only,' it could just have that kind of a tone through recruitment.

Hi shill-kun! Have fun at our arabian goat molesting barn

>doesn't exist
>leftist boogeyman
disagree, the alt right as Sup Forums would describe is completely different than the lefts definition of alt right. Thus your "boogeyman" is actually right.
THIS. Pretty much what I think should be the goal of the alt right, or what ever our definition of alt right is.

Such low-rent rhetoric you've got, did you buy it used off a feminist?

what about the bogpill??

Um sweetie your the one that stated in your comment that " Scientist don't even support race as a concept".

>delusions!
Like how you think that in a civil war something is gonna stop us from going after the lefts children?
we arent gonna fight you in a street war.
We can id a leftist or jew at a glance, but we blend into society. Your people cant see us unless we let you, but our people can see you.

Tell me, can you fight us all?

>I don't understand the bell curve
Oh.

>And that's on the source chosen by a clearly racist blog
It just compiles the data, want to argue about the sources? Also how about you prove that races don't exist instead.

For saying that people who work with Africans know they are less intelligent than others and you shouldn't promote blacks until they've succeeded at a lower level. You can't get away with staying stuff like that. It doesn't mean scientific research is compromised.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Scarr

Best post I've read all week (and I frequently read my own posts.)

>the alt right as Sup Forums
It is dumb to allow your enemies to label you. Abandon the label before you're pingeon-holed.

>paid propaganda is science

Have your (you) you damn whore.

Go on.

Please debunk the FBI.

LMAO

Is this the one n done ass again

>Trying to discredit an info graphic by calling it a meme.
> Unironically calling user delusional.
wew lad

>For saying that people who work with Africans know they are less intelligent than others and you shouldn't promote blacks until they've succeeded at a lower level. You can't get away with staying stuff like that. It doesn't mean scientific research is compromised.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Scarr
You got to be specific, what the fuck are you even on about?