This is NOT an anti Communists board

The board officially welcomes libertarians of ALL stripes. This includes anarcho-communists and libertarian marxists.

Libertarians should unite with one another, infighting is what the statists want.

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Communism is always statism, fuck off.

This is an anti namefag board. Fuck outa here queer.
>Libertarians unite
>Posts stalin

That's Marx, burger.

>Sup Forums
>officially

Capitalism is inherently authoritarian, it cannot be libertarian.

Capitalism only seems authoritarian to weak stupid unproductive shit stains like you. Nothing within socialism or communism is in line with libertarianism. You cannot be a collectivist individualist, so you cannot be a Marxist libertarian.

Seriously eat shit

everyone is free to post here
and everyone is free to call you a dumb commie cunt

The second post, you retarded, blind toothpaste nigger.

Die of anal cancer faggot

>wealth should be redistributed
>without a state
There couldn't possibly be a more Reddit ideology

Private property is people owned property.

If you or the kikes that started this mess had the people in mind they would be allowed their property with extended rights to protect them from the goverment.

But no, they are not even allowed individual opinions.

Kill yourself.

Fuck off faggot

Whatever

i'm thinking that the only way the 'open borders libs' and 'build wall libs' are going to get along is for one group to abandon their views

t. professional reader of Mises.org

You fags really need to learn how to sage.

I hate communism, but dame they had some god tier propaganda.

Left libertarians get the rope/helicopter.
SAGE

le ebin meme XDDDDD

communism is stateless

politely I ask you to read about marxist socialism

Fuck the state, save our people from degeneracy.

>communism is stateless
Yes, my cup truly runneth over with examples of stateless communism. I assume you're a shitposter?

Fucking No.

starve commie
listen to your leader

No.

>Libertarians should unite with one another, infighting is what the statists want.

It's not infighting, it's the only fight there is.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK OFF /leftypol/

>libertarian and communist/Marxist in the same sentence

Fuck off. Communism is the embodiment of evil and primitivity. Reds should be shot at sight or hanged on trees.

this

Highly agreed.

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>The board officially welcomes libertarians of ALL stripes.
who the fuck do you think you are to make claims like that

sage in all fields

Sorry, but this board officially welcomes eating food

o gurwa

>153588441
It's a contradiction bro. Look if you wanna do your little "libertarian-communist" society then do it where you want to and just leave us out of it. I just wanna work hard and get paid. Keep the money all to myself and my family. No one else.

>evil and primitivity

>true freedom and maximum automation of labour

>evil and primitive

No government can ever be "stateless".
Outside of the obvious uses and needs of a government, like security and infrastructure, the biggest issue with Communism and Socialism is that it doesn't take into account human nature.
What will you do when the inevitable lazy assholr demands products without putting the work in. Will your compassionate comrades let them starve? Will some jack booted thugs kick them out.
When happens when a person's greed and envy dictate that they deserve more then their neighbor? Who gets to decide how much the doctor gets and how much the plumber gets?

>society based on hunter gatherer Indians
>not primitive

kill a commie win win.

EBIN FUCK :DDDD!
I actually sing this with my friends sometimes on public spaces.

Checked
Your statement is true if you read it literally

What a waste of quads
>Automation of labor
Someone has to repair the machines or program them to repair themselves. They'll just be the next ruling class in your little marxist cycle of master/slave.
And yes, seeing how most socialist states tend to become excessively tyrannical, I'd say it's indeed primitive despotism in the modern day.

.....but post anything about QAnnon and its off to /b...
-/pol logic

Link song

I had an ONR sympathizing friend from Cracow and he taught me how to properly pronounce it.

>when a person's greed
I seem to recall Mao being a colossal, fat bastard whilst his people were skin and bones. I have a suspicion wealth was not being redistributed evenly.

plz stop, your retard is showing.

>Gommie threads contribute to the board by honing arguments against it
>Q threads are literal cancer
Learn to politics newfriend

>When a literal memelord-tier ideology that promotes economical survival of the fittest calls you out for not being equal enough
Ouch

Name an example of communism in general. I'd love to hear what you say on this.

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Are ONR socialists? Even if they are, as a 100% capitalist I support their cause since they're a very nationalistic movement.
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lol no

Are you just trying to backdoor the
>NEVER BEEN TRIED!
meme without getting caught?

You are a fucking cuck. Traditionalism - no?
Fascism in this scale is monarchism which I support 90%. Allowing anything on the left scale is retarded. especially the bottom left.

Sure, my examples wou Momentum shills get the fuck out. And they would als real communism has never been tried. Finally, I would put forwa haha shill not an argument.

>anarcho communists are now libertarians?
Neck yourself (((faggot)))

No, I'm not using that. I'm just asking for examples of a communist society.
Excuse me?

You're excused.

It's like our haka but whiter

Human nature is a malleable and diverse thing, selfishness and altruism can be balanced and controlled, creating an harmonious society by technological means.

Let's say we need to tweak the human genome at some point because the memeplexes favourable to the communist society stabilty are not sufficiently adecuate giving the genetic pool of a given time, it could be done is a sufficiently advanced population. Human population could also be reduced massively at some point in some nuclear war, which would create a good bottleneck to work on if surviving communists are in power.

How is marxism still relevant in 2017?

So let me get this straight? You think I'm part of some sort of labour shill group? As a British Fascist I don't support the labour party and nor do I support any other of our parties.

Monarchist revolution when brother?
Unironically monarchism has the best curriculum of all the political system created and implemented by Man in the real world, with almost two thousand and a half years of undisputed supremacy in the political world.
While monarchism's criticism is about one bad man in power, who is easily overthrown if it's ever necessary to do so, democracies' are about an entire collective of them governing from the shadows, which is even more nightmarish.
Also, monarchism promotes a strong, free-market state-oriented economy, and the strong enforcement of corporative charters, which has been lacking in today's democracies and have led to megapoles and monopoles alike.
Finally, a ruler is BRED AND EDUCATED with nothing less than to be the absolute ruler of his property. Tell me, who actually treats his property as expendable? Only democracies and socialist states do so.

Explain how you will efficiently allocate resources without a free market

Please gather them in one place. It will make it easier to do what needs to be done.

Communism is politically correct, therefore, the board is explicitly anti-communist.

>le state must become so strong and authoritarian that it consumes the entire society
>then it'll "wither away"
you guys are fucking retarded, lmao

>libertarian marxists

Linear optimizations and supercomputers.

aka things you won't be able to afford under communism

Sums up their entire ridiculous philosophy in two sentences

Spooky.

The same thing that collapsed the Soviet Union only faster?
Wow

The problem wasn't the computers speed, it was the ability to input data about the people needed
To think I expected a response that made sense, more fool me

Communists are not libertarians

Engels:


“The state is, therefore, by no means a power forced on society from without; just as little is it
'the reality of the ethical idea', 'the image and reality of reason', as Hegel maintains. Rather, it is a product of society at a certain stage of development; it is the admission that this society has become entangled in an insoluble contradiction with itself, that it has split into irreconcilable antagonisms which it is powerless to dispel. But in order that these antagonisms, these classes with conflicting economic interests, might not consume themselves and society in fruitless struggle, it became necessary to have a power, seemingly standing above society, that would alleviate the conflict and keep it within the bounds of 'order'; and this power, arisen out of society but placing itself above it, and alienating itself more and more from it, is the state."

By the way I propose a democratic system (transparent and secure) not authoritarian (except if you are bourgeois scum you will be purgued)

Exactly. As a right-wing libertarian I support fascism and monarchism, defining fascism as a publicly owned state by one man and monarchism as a privately owned state by one man.
WHAT IS "ECONOMIC CALCULATION PROBLEM" THE REPLY.
Democracy is the most potentially totalitarian system that could ever exist.

>Human nature is a malleable
Is that why anyone who's even tasted capitalism in socialist states wanted to overthrow it except communist jews?
>creating an harmonious society by technological means
If only the Socialists were like that, when it's clear they're not! Most of the tech they've developped, they've stolen, and used exclusively for the ruling class (Nomenklatura or otherwise). Look at Stalin and Mao, living in luxury while their own people starved to make their five-year plans work.
>Let's say we need to tweak the human genome at some point because the memeplexes favourable to the communist society stabilty are not sufficiently adecuate giving the genetic pool of a given time, it could be done is a sufficiently advanced population.
>We need to brainwash the population to believe communism works, or create something that isn't even naturally human anymore to build our system
Jesus fucking Christ, then stop saying communis works for human population
Human population could also be reduced massively at some point in some nuclear war, which would create a good bottleneck to work on if surviving communists are in power.
>Our system can only work on a small scale.
You know, communal system existed a long time ago, right? Also, what you're suggesting is large scale genocide, followed by enslavement; hardly justifiable, especially seeing how it's more likely to see a despot rise than a communist revolution in such a situation.
>inb4 Hobbes fanboy
Hobbes was right, humans are wolves for other humans, and essentially unequal in nature. Get real, commiefag.

>magical thinking

MUH SURPLUS VALUE

>e, it became necessary to have a power, seemingly standing above society, that would alleviate the conflict and keep it within the bounds of 'order'; and this power, arisen out of society but placing itself above it, and alienating itself more and more from it, is the state."
This is exactly what he just pointed out

A omnipotent super AI could not manage resources better than the Market

its increasingly obvious you're a larping European, even commies are aware that historically all socialism ends up authoritarian (despite what your gay (((intellectuals))) wrote on the subject)

Karl Marx had a lifelong servant of which he never paid a penny. Talk about exploitation of the worker...

That could be done easily nowdays, everybody has a computer in their pockets to vote what they need.

Exactly.
A mass that wants to control itself for the sake of uniformity and cohesiveness is probably the most terrifying idea that can pass through my mind.
And that brings us back to Plato, two thousand and a half years ago approximately, who warned us that Mob Rule, made in uniformity, is just as bad as a singular tyrant.

Like China's new dystopian digital scheme? Where all of your life is linked to your smartphone?
Dare to speak out against the government and your family suffers the brutal consequences
Sounds like an authoritarian state to me

Except you can't kill 51% of the voters, so it's even worse.

>anyone at all who doesn't support Trump

Does poland have cartoons?

Cartoons? Yeah, of course we do.

Do you dribble when you hear the bell yet?

You dont get to speak for all of us liberal thats not how the world works just because you think your morally superior doesnt make it s, and it surely doesnt make u the end all be all in rule making anywhere so fuck off we dont need people like u in society

communism is retarded

politely I ask you to stop reading fantasy books unsuitable for children and impared and get help from a doctor

Comfy redpilled ones?
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I got my politics from my parents and my own research, not from cartoons. I watched cartoons as a kid for fun, the only one I know from the top of my head is Duck Tales about inflation.

>linear optimizations
efficient distribution is the traveling salesman problem. The only true solution is brute force. If you are talking about this on a nation scale with every resource its not really possible even with very large supercomputers.

The bigger problem is defining fair distrobution.

Its literally not possible to have centrally planned economy and free choice aka: "liberty".

no communists allowed, fuck off and starve
sage

#MyBordersMyChoice, get in here:
The fire rises.