China is an ideological empire like Islam (read mandarin = Chinese), welded together by an unimaginably pure ethno-state (98% Han), and run by technocratic engineers (like the Nordics) with a very low cost-of-life buy-in and a massive chip on their shoulder from historical injustice.
Oh and they currently have the edge on the largest untapped reserves of precious natural resources and dumb man power (Africa).
They are making a power move now that the US is destabilized politically, about to be financially ruined, and militarily stretched thin.
Air Strip One is taking on water, the EU will turn isolationist within the decade, and our highest APM commanders in the region have a nuclear loaded revolver pointed right at them.
The Upper Class is actively destroying society, the middle class is being lured into three massive bubbles waiting to pop (Housing, Education, and Bitcoin), and the lower class is addicted and dying from opioids. The irony vis-a-vis century of humiliation is palpable.
How does North America go inna woods and survive this, hopefully winning?
not all civilizations rise, but they all fall eventually. thats for damn sure. its not cause for lament, just ride the rest of the wave as best you can and hope you die before you succumb to the realization that america has fallen off. humanity in general is fucked, dont take it personal. also, im surprised you list bitcoin as a major factor.
Evan Wright
Not /k/ related, and cryptocurrency isn't in a bubble or actually going to affect the economy. Market cap of all crypto isn't even 1tril.
Stop being a fucking idiot.
Gabriel Wright
Self- betterment on an individual level involving things like diet, limiting excessive media exposure and consumerism and becoming less risk- averse in the real world. Use these changes to re- develop a sense of community and remove widespread feelings of loneliness. People gain strength from positive changes like these, and create a stronger community as a result.
Thomas Gutierrez
If we had mini-railguns: maybe.
At the moment I put more stock in drones with a grenade taped to them
Especially with all the new super hard push for bitcoin cash.
It's obviously a bubble, but I think it's being accelerated into an artificial bubble.
Jacob Cruz
Nice redditspacing now kill yourself
Brandon Myers
Weapons = /k/ War = /k/ Final Form Combined Arms warfare (physical, political, cultural, economic, and information) = /k/
Saying it's not /k/ is like saying one could talk about WWII Russia without talking about logistics or political motivations.
Nicholas Thompson
Is there a way to do agrarian semi- communal living that isn't completely batshit one way or the other? It's really the only way I can see myself happy long term. >/k/ starts a trailer park/ farm.
Gavin Jones
>ITT Dipshits who dont know that shit has been far worse before, and that history is cyclical.
Ayden Hall
This is so made up in your head that you’d need to tip two or even three fedoras for that
Jacob Howard
Nah, humanity has moved past that as an option. We live or die based on our super-unit now. Unless you propose /k/ try to pull an Israel in a region no one is interested in.
Brayden Bailey
China is shit.
Jordan Collins
By going to work tomorrow and giving a shit.
Asher Wood
Care to explain, because the same post could be used to rationalize that the US both is and isn't heading for hut.
Elijah Morgan
Don't use words or talk about things you don't even have an entry level understanding of.
Bentley Russell
Ignore him. Anyone who speaks in platitudes like that in green text is an obv newfag.
Austin Adams
>Top notch state funded AI research >Less then a decade behind in technical capabilities and accelerating >Economy inching closer to global parity >Near quadruple population, that means for every Einstein we get, they get four >Shit blue water navy, but a strong brown water presence. >Professional military core the same size as the US with ten's of millions of foot soldiers to toss into the meat grinder.
Justin Myers
>China lol
Landon Martin
>A starving, polluted Communist shithole with a useless military is going to gloriously rise up and suddenly conquer the world because some liberal economists at my University said so.
Anthony Williams
Here's the best breakdown I've seen on why China isn't going to be running shit. Ever.
china is likely a house of cards economically, they are nearly as fractured and run by local corrupt bureaucrats not unlike the days of the Warlords before the communist revolution, are largely more focused on posturing than actual performance, can't into logistics, are NOT ethnically homogenous, and just all around have a retarded mindset that prevents them from accomplishing much and sets them to be always shooting themselves in the foot due to pure retardation. Are they a threat to freedom in the pacific? definitely. they have a toddlers mindset about territorial claims and are ramping up production of ships and a breakneck pace (still wont reach parity with us for like 50 years lol) but this is largely due to the economic bubble that could destroy their country and is certainly not a threat to the US itself.
Joshua Barnes
>and our highest APM commanders in the region have a nuclear loaded revolver pointed right at them. It's okay, when we develop semi-autonomous war drones just one of those guys will be worth an entire army division. Best Korea will stand no chance.
Jeremiah Moore
>Top notch state funded AI research Lol. >Less then a decade behind in technical capabilities and accelerating >less than >a decade Lol. >Economy inching closer to global parity I chug closer to collapse desu. >Near quadruple population, that means for every Einstein we get, they get four That's not even close to how that works lol. >Shit blue water navy, but a strong brown water presence. Pfffff >Professional military core the same size as the US with ten's of millions of foot soldiers to toss into the meat grinder Wow they can send more soldiers to die faster and easier than every other world player. Wooowo
thediplomat.com/2017/12/chinas-americanized-military/ Come back when people stop predicting the fall of your economy for fun. Also come back when your country finally finishes their first carrier then we can talk about you being a superpower.
Chase Bell
>china is likely a house of cards economically Amerinigs have been saying this since the 1950s.
Oliver Myers
>doesn't understand the three pillars of Chinese economy
Nathan Richardson
>AI >implying
>Tech Depends on the field.
>economy They might crash though
>for every... Thats not how it works
Brown is irrelevant
>implying body count counts in modern war
Chingchong
Eli Jenkins
And we've been right for almost 70 years.
Elijah Baker
>about to be financially ruined
Fuck off you uninformed commie. The US economy is fucking booming and the new tax plans will sour growth even more. It's true that the future lies in colonizing Africa, and since the Chinese don't have the stupid moral compunctions against bettering the continent the the US does, they'll be winners on that front.
Michael Wilson
I dunno, the corruption crackdown may not have rooted out the actual underlying current, but it seems to have brought the big players back in line and put the fear of god into the mid-level players.
Why do you say they can't into logistics? Their manufacturing logistics is on point, it is in fact their economy is all about that. Their military logistics seems perfectly competent for land based movement, and it would only take a slight pivot to rope in their merchant marine capabilities into navel.
Personally, I think navel is DOA once true autonomous sub drones take off I feel. A swarm of near dead silent hunter-killer drones diffused throughout the pacific would shut down the US.
Henry Nelson
Time flies user.
And that is actually exactly how it works. If someone is 1 in a Million, china has over a thousand of them. Not every talent is fully recognized, but they can afford to throw away a few and still have more than the US.
Cheap soldiers+technology = problematic enemy. It's hard enough fighting medieval enemies with next to no education, imagine when they are closer to the quality of US recruits.
Carriers are not the future. China doesn't want to invade the US, they want to cut the US off from the rest of the world.
Lincoln Martin
Actually I'm pretty sure they just want to trade with us
Nicholas Bell
>Cheap soldiers+technology Massed waves wont work like they did in Korea, Chang. There is so much more weapons now to deal with that shot its such a joke. AGLs, Quicker aircraft, and more accurate bombs just for a few. Their tech on most thing is behind the US. I understand communism limits what you can read but please, Chang read some books.
Jeremiah Walker
>Time flies user. ok?
>And that is actually exactly how it works. If someone is 1 in a Million, china has over a thousand of them. No no no you don't understand. That is not how that works. You do not get people with amazing talents just because of the sheer amount of population. You need a good education system, you need top level schools, and most importantly you to be close to being a fully developed country.
>Not every talent is fully recognized, but they can afford to throw away a few and still have more than the US. Not even close.
>Cheap soldiers+technology = problematic enemy. >technology They don't have that.
>It's hard enough fighting medieval enemies with next to no education, imagine when they are closer to the quality of US recruits. Not comparable in the slightest.
>Carriers are not the future. Incorrect. Besides the future doesn't matter when you haven't even reached present yet. They're building their first aircraft carrier and I think it'll be done 2020? They're not even close to the future.
>China doesn't want to invade the US, they want to cut the US off from the rest of the world. >cut us off by pouring everything into a undertrained and under equipped land force >b-but we have more soldiers
Aaron Lewis
>You do not get people with amazing talents just because of the sheer amount of population. You need a good education system, you need top level schools, and most importantly you to be close to being a fully developed country.
talent has become an industry in china. have you ever seen the olympic training camps? sports scholarships are almost a thing to be feared. if those chinks get so autistically obsessed about winning some shiny metal, imagine how serious they take national defense.
>Not every talent is fully recognized, but they can afford to throw away a few and still have more than the US. >Not even close.
>it's not true because i say so >what is manpower pool
>Cheap soldiers+technology = problematic enemy. >technology >They don't have that.
>China doesn't want to invade the US, they want to cut the US off from the rest of the world. >cut us off by pouring everything into a undertrained and under equipped land force
>no such thing as political/economical strong-arming
Isaiah Smith
>China has the GDP and economic power to modernize. >China wants to expand its sphere of influence. >China already has bases in Africa and has more stealth aircraft in service then its largest neighbor Russia.
America isn't going to completely collapse but will just be #2 in a few decades.
Chase Cox
>talent has become an industry in china. It's an industry everywhere.
>have you ever seen the olympic training camps? sports scholarships are almost a thing to be feared. No, but I do love that America is actually getting some real competition at the Olympics now.
>if those chinks get so autistically obsessed about winning some shiny metal, imagine how serious they take national defense. I honestly can't imagine it because those are two entirely separate things. I mean if you want to talk about work ethic then look to the jappanese.
>it's not true because i say so >what is manpower pool Manpower pools don't matter in terms of education and science. You need a good school system and etc. They also don't mean shit in modern war especially when that country isn't modernized yet.
>chinks stealing technology again Wow they're so full of talent and totally technology advanced that they steal American technology.
>no such thing as political/economical strong-arming >strong-arming people when your economy is in a constant state of having a seizure
Colton Robinson
First deal with your trade and demographic problems
Connor Richardson
Funny how they went from building statues to constructing governments in Africa, just like NK! I am not too worried, China has plenty of useful people they can spare when the war against islam comes about! They will have to fight on the red lands, and those lands that have raged with war are never quenched!
Evan Diaz
There is a famous Chinese proverb expressed in the 16th century novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms. "After a long split, a union will occur; after a long union, a split will occur"
Caleb Gray
North America survives it by default since they aren't on the "world island," of Eurasia. That said, the fallout of the big pivot is going to devastate America so the instability might cause most of the population to die. Whites in particular are probably boned.
Lucas Young
>he actually trusts chinks to factually report their ethnic background They don't even speak the same languages
Camden Garcia
Where is this thread from?
Ryan Cruz
>>Top notch state funded AI research nope >>Less then a decade behind in technical capabilities and accelerating nope >>Economy inching closer to global parity nope >>Near quadruple population, that means for every Einstein we get, they get four ok >>Shit blue water navy, but a strong brown water presence. ok but irrelevant >>Professional military core the same size as the US nope >>with ten's of millions of foot soldiers to toss into the meat grinder. ok
Logan Roberts
China was an economic failure until their reforms in the 70s.
Levi Johnson
>Chinese >pure Pure chinese no longer exist they have been raped 1000s of years by foreign invaders.
Elijah Cook
Chinks are orchestrating the fentanyl crisis to kill off lower / middle classes as revenge for the Opium Wars so Chinese can move here en masse
China won't be a thing in 15 years. Declining market, 1.5 billion chinktards and they're losing to... Indonesia? ?
Their gdp hit a point of inflection in 2012, since then they've had to build government funded ghost cities to inflate their (((gdp))). They tried to take over trading routes via military encroachment in the south Asian sea. As a result, trading has shifted to Japanese Controlled trading routes. Japanese just invested 500 billion in US markets in exchange for military/ navy support.
China's supply of petroleum is controlled by the Japanese. China's economy is crumbling, Mexican labor is literally cheaper. Removed one child policy and their reproduction rates are still plummeting.
China is over.
Ayden Miller
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Liam Wood
>dumb man power
Kek
Isaiah Murphy
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Benjamin Smith
To summarize, even the Chinese know their economy is fucked. They are investing in foreign properties so they can get out when shtf.
Angel Moore
Notice the green trading route.
American oil independence has pushed the Saudis to the Asian market. Chinese military presence has pushed them to the green trading route. Controlled by US and Nippon Navy.
