>both feature nerdy/dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them >both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in >both feature magic and the supernatural >both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life >both feature highly desired artifacts that can grant wishes >both have huge fandoms that churn out an infinite supply of fanfiction and analysis >both feature main girls with long brown hair who are extremely talented and knowledgeable about magic
Jace Gutierrez
Whilst they are both childish wish fulfilment, at least Fate/ is not the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
>a-at least the books were good though "No!" The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
Angel Torres
There are some similarities but you're drawing a long bow.
Ryder Campbell
These are copypasta'd from somewhere I'm sure, but in any case, the idea of a porn VN being Japan's kid's lit classic is not as far-fetched as it should be.
Luis Hill
>brace new world >low tier Bait.
Grayson Hernandez
Well, Nasu isn't agreeing to letting 60 Muslims live in his mansion because he hates Trump so I don't think so.
Daniel Phillips
It's /lit/. What did you expect?
Daniel Torres
thank you user
every thread until they like it
Aiden Mitchell
Looks like a Sup Forums list.
Aiden Jackson
>both feature nerdy/dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them >both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life >both feature main girls with long brown hair who are extremely talented and knowledgeable about magic These don't really describe FSN. And wouldn't something like OP be the HP or Japan?
Gavin Reyes
Na, this list has been around for years. It's /lit/, I assure you.
Ryan Kelly
Are you sure?
Camden Murphy
Pretty sure.
Levi Sullivan
...
Dylan Hernandez
>Is Fate Stay/Night the Harry Potter of Japan? LWA is airing this season, user. You know, the show that actively makes an effort to Japanese Harry Potter?
Elijah Hill
This. Also, 1984 is better than Atlas.
Sup Forums hate libertarians though and Atlas is too high for their taste. Also, they probably never heard about half of this list, let alone read it.
Joseph Anderson
Except it doesn't, and you'd know that if you weren't an idiot.
Magic school =/= Harry potter.
Owen Lewis
I'm pretty sure Naruto is the Harry Potter of Japan.
Austin Walker
Let's see, teenage magic school in England, set in the modern world where magic coexists with modern society. The protagonist gets into shenanigans at school but manages to worm her way out of them mostly by virtue of being the protagonist (granted, this applies to 99% of fiction aimed at teens). It's not just the general setting, however. LWA actively tries to bring in concepts from HP, like making Akko a mudblood, or having her miss the initiation ceremony and being told she will be expelled, only for her to manage to make it through by fighting stuff in the school's literal forbidden forest.
Don't get me wrong, LWA is actually probably my favorite anime this season. But if you don't think it's very purposely trying to capitalize on HP, you're being willfully blind.
Thomas Davis
>capitalize >hey guys, because its trying to capitalize on an idea means the stories are the same! Idiot.
LWA is an all-female show that panders to neckbearded retards like you.
Josiah Perez
What? Where the fuck did I say the stories are the same, you slack jawed imbecile? What I said is that it's actively trying to be Japanese Harry Potter. That implies that it has a similar setting and borrows concepts, in order to create the create the same feeling and hold the same appeal. All of which is true for LWA.
Story has nothing to do with it. Fantastic Beasts, for example, is still a Harry Potter story in the sense that it carries the same torch, and uses the same setting and concepts, even though the story may be different. But evidently, you think that just the fact that it's an all-female school somehow changes everything, and you have the audacity to call anyone else a retard.
Gabriel Hall
No, fate is good, harry potter is shit post saber
Jace Harris
LWA is the Harry Potter of Japan
>It's about school kids >They board at a prestigious school >They learn magic >They go on adventures
Eli Sullivan
>crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life in Fate Who?
Thomas Sanchez
>All the mainstream / famous books are shit tier
If they're bad then why are they so popular?
Austin Smith
>both feature nerdy/dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them >both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in >both feature magic and the supernatural Are these concepts rare? Rhetorical, they fucking aren't. Have my free (You)
Caleb Rodriguez
>both feature highly desired artifacts that can grant wishes What's this in Harry Potter?
David Sanders
Is this high or low quality bait? I'm struggling to figure out if stretching this far makes it impressive or just sad.
I guess it's working though
Ryder Lewis
>If they're bad then why are they so popular? Anybody with such sentiments clearly doesn't belong here. Shit-taste is an epidemic.
Adrian Thomas
>Lel Miserables >Count of Edgy >God tier
Eli Long
Man, most of those are pretty common in fiction. But Fate is really a pretty unique series, in that it can basically scale ad infinitum by its very premise (historical figures battle royale, parallel universes). It's THE ultimate milking machine.
Oliver Richardson
Not him, but being "Japanese Harry Potter" is not the same as being "the Harry Potter of Japan".
Liam Davis
>one is a book series for 12 year olds >one is a pc game with explicit sex scenes
Jeremiah Carter
I've seen this type of thread multiple times over the past years.
What is OP's main goal here anyway and why does he repost it?
Aiden Scott
Both have magic academy in London
Andrew Green
>fate is good user you don't have to lie.
Ryder Robinson
Not this shit again.
Ayden Jenkins
I think it's a Quentin (Sup Forums) list, or it's at least from that era
Great Gatsby at #1 being a giveaway
Aiden Ortiz
I think one if the most important aspects of being a Harry Potter is greatly influencing a genre or subgenre, which includes having imitators, like "Witch and Wizzard" and plenty of VN shit inspired by Fate, like Seikoku no Dragonar (seriously, they use mythological names they learned from Stay Night
Matthew Campbell
Not really. Harry Potter was just one of the West's first popular isekais. It appealed to us the same way isekai appeals to Nips. Kid has a shitty life, escapes to fantasy land where he's actually really talented and respected after some struggle. Its all the same shit, but I don't see as many parallels with F/SN. I see Fate as its own thing, there's no real equivalent for its ridiculous shittiness in the west.
Lincoln Ross
>both feature nerdy/dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them
Except Potter isn't particularly dense (just ignorant of magic) and Shirou isn't particularly nerdy (He's a bit of a tool, but he's athletic and actively interacts with other people). \
>both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in
Most vague description I've ever seen, describes virtually any action based series.
>both feature magic and the supernatural
Pretty much the definition of fantasy.
>both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life
Incredibly generic, and even here the two differ in there being many villains in Fate and mostly only 1 in Harry Potter.
>both feature highly desired artifacts that can grant wishes
Wish granting is the most classic of story writing plot devices, it's thousands of years old.
>both have huge fandoms that churn out an infinite supply of fanfiction and analysis
"They're both popular" has nothing to do with the original works.
>both feature main girls with long brown hair who are extremely talented and knowledgeable about magic
Rin's hair is more black. Competent main characters are hardly distinctive.
In addition to previous criticisms, I can't help but see the stranger as overrated here, it's middle-tier at best. Absurdism doesn't make for a terribly compelling novel.
Carter Bailey
>comparing Shirou to Harry Potter this is a fucking stretch
Cameron Richardson
>Harry Potter was just one of the West's first popular isekais are you 12 years old?
Isaiah Ortiz
Do you have anything constructive to add or just shitposting? Whether you want to argue over semantics or not, Mr. Old Man, the fact of the matter is that it simply follows the formula and that's why it became so popular.
Nolan Brown
isekai has been a staple of western (and probably other) fiction for over a hundred years
Cooper Miller
Isn't the Harry Potter of Japan just Harry Potter?
Connor Powell
But not on the scale of Harry Potter because it just wasn't possible back then. Whatever story you might be talking about doesn't have 1/10th of the exposure that HP does. Emphasis on 'popular' and not just 'existing'. Narnia is the only thing I think you could be referencing.
Wyatt Robinson
Yes, and Frozen was the best anime of 2013.
Jaxson Hughes
But Fate is literal trash.
Tyler Robinson
Gilgamesh
The Philosopher's Stone.
Cooper Robinson
This is an insulting comparison because Harry is a far better written character than Shirou.
Charles Rogers
It's often been said that Negima! is the Japanese answer to Harry Potter. Negi Springfield certainly could be based on Harry, but after that the similarities dry up quickly
Austin Bennett
>this thread is happening >it has 50 replies >lwa airing right now and most popular show on the board >no one has pointed out its literally hp t.autism
Zachary Morgan
>50 replies >Can't even read them to see that this has already been pointed out
Isaiah Gray
It doesn't take itself seriously, unlike both of these who are both far up into its own asses. At most it's an homage but has its own thing going for it.
Asher Robinson
The things I'd do to Japanese Hermione
Colton White
Fuck off.
Samuel Clark
Why? my dick gets hard when I see her, what's wrong with that?
Nicholas Clark
>Clifford for President What?
Parker Carter
Sup Forums pasta laid atop one of /lit/'s finest. I'm in foodie heaven.
Samuel Nguyen
>Great Gatsby >Ayn Rand >not shit tier
Isaiah Bailey
But Girugamesh isn't crazy, he's just a self-absorbed asshole. And he already has all the power he wants.
Julian Harris
I didn't even have to read the whole OP to know this was a Sup Forums+/lit/ fitting-in thread.
Landon Baker
I came to this thread just to read this.
Grayson Brown
>Ayn Rand-Atlas Shrugged Seriously, when will people stop glorifying this meme book?
Jaxson Jones
Here I improved your Saber
Lincoln Flores
Any Fate series past UBW was a cash grab, and it makes it harder to like fate with all these shitty FGO
Brody Peterson
Harry Potter is a masterpiece though.
Samuel Hall
kek
Better take off nostalgia goggles when you think about saying that.
Aaron Perez
At least Nasu isn't a blatant SJW all of the time.
Owen Walker
>both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life
kek, Kotomine just does what he does for the lulz and he is even sympathetic with Shirou. Gilgamesh isn't even power hungry.
Ayden Campbell
>live action fate will never exist in any time line >no actor, past present or future could keep a straight face while saying I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD >Sir Ian McKellen laughed at it and asked if fate is popular with school aged children(5-10 year olds by Britbong standard) Check mate.
Jack Perez
>Harry Potter >isekai
Anthony Cruz
Japanese Hermione has dyke issues though.
Asher Wilson
No. Harry Potter isn't even unique you fucking retard. It's been done before. It was just lucky enough to become famous and was there at the right time.
Joseph Cruz
really getting tired of retards having to relate everything to either Harry Potter or Star Wars.
Thomas Foster
>Starship Troopers not anywhere on there Yeah this image is trash even though it's clearly bait.
James Johnson
>>both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in
I don't laugh all that often but I got a good laugh out of this, thanks OP
Cameron Jackson
Sup Forums is this now, only shitposting and baits
Nolan Gray
This is low-tier bait though.
Owen Wright
So Steven King was saying: "That Twilight-Author is shit compared to JK Rowling (for my future profits)."
Andrew Ramirez
You can thank mods for not getting rid of Sup Forums before they started raiding all boards. Just a few years any offtopic shit would get deleted and the user banned. Now you can report anything you want but unless it's literally something illegal, no one will care.
Juan Murphy
Harry Potter is a shonen manga in book form tebh
Isaac Edwards
Fuck off tumblr
Joshua Robinson
Is Naruto the Harry Potter of Anime?
Luis Walker
Amazing argument, Donald. You are literal fucking cancer. Every single board I browse doesn't seem to have any fucking moderation whatsoever. Any thread can get derailed without recovering and easily hit the bump limit because there doesn't seem to be any mods or janitors around anymore.
Dominic Long
>both feature nerdy/dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them
Harry is neither nerdy nor dense, he's basically a Chad with a good heart. Shiro isn't new to the world of magic either.
>both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life
None of the villains in Fate are after concrete political power the way Voldemort is.
>both feature highly desired artifacts that can grant wishes
I can't think of a single artifact in HP that grants wishes outside of the Mirror of Erised, which only shows an illusion of a wish.
Kayden Ward
Um sweetie you lost the election okay hun
Now go cry on tumblr and hot glue your waifu toys okay?
Nicholas Green
>lost the election
Not even american but nice try. You just happen to be the biggest cancer of the echo chamber that spreads shit to other boards.
Sebastian Jackson
Shoot me a beam, please.
Ethan Rodriguez
[autistic screeching]
Elijah Richardson
Isn't this more a problem of user scale and ad incentives?
Brayden Brooks
Fullmetal Alchemist is the Harry Potter of anime.
Jeremiah Williams
>Is Fate Stay/Night the Harry Potter of Japan?
No, but it's Marvel of Japan, with DC movie tier quality.
Jason Lopez
>Fate Stay/NIght It's Fate/stay night you idiot.
Ayden Ramirez
>atlas shrugged >Not complete shit
Ian Flores
>it was just lucky enough This shows a deep misunderstanding of the qualities that made Harry Potter popular. People always like to blame wider contexts of time and audience when they don't understand the finer elements that can make or break a story. Name one work which was the same as Harry Potter which you think would have gotten as big an audience if it came out at the "right time".
Ethan Bell
Same thing with League of Legends. It's so popular because kids can't think how to play and how to read good books.
Jaxon Johnson
Harry Potter is the Harry Potter of everywhere.
Michael Hall
Of course it was lucky. Have you even read them? Most shit that's popular was lucky or it had great marketing. It's not like they have quality writing. Look at 50 shades of grey. It's all junk.