>Kraut & Tea is running a secret discord server called The Task Force, with a crew consisting of various skeptic youtubers, a "science team," and fanboys acting as "detectives." Many of the skeptic youtubers within The Task Force will be speakers at the Kilroy "free speech conference," such as Youtubers Jeff Holiday and Wizard of Cause. The server even includes Kilroy organizer "Based Mama." They have also brought in a New York Times journalist.
>The stated goal of the server is to "debunk racists," but in reality, much of the server's activity involves cult-like plotting against Kraut's enemies and collecting information they use to smear and potentially dox those enemies. There is even a "hit list" of right-wing YTers and personalities, from people as small as Braving Ruin and Alternative Hypothesis all the way up to people as big as Black Pigeon Speaks, James Allsup, and Baked Alaska. Many of these people do not even discuss "race realism" as a regular subject, and so the motivation for Kraut's crew seems to be ideological, rather than academic.
call the cops on kraut for hate crime. no one should disparage the name of our kangz
Blake Flores
HABBENING
Xavier Harris
The Eternal Kraut.
Joseph Robinson
Can it get any worse? Why yes, it can.
Parker Martin
So anons, at least for 4/pol/, I'd say things are coming to an end. At least for now. We have lots of lulzy material and vectors to find more material. 4/pol/ doesn't need an additional permanent general. Let's let it be after this thread. You don't have to let it be completely if you don't want to, but migrate to different places that keep the game going, like the farms, /cow/ and so on.
> Zeph breaking away and tweeting some images > one every website, people caution to take his shit with a grain of salt > spino makes statement > everyone totes believed him immediately u guise I feel gaslighted. I'm being told to believe things I know for a fact to be false.
(((Kraut))) is a Jewish youtube skeptic (ie fedora athiest leftovers) who led the witchhunt against a minor alt-right youtube girl RageAfterStorm to get her channel deleted & fired from her job etc., then decided to attempt a skeptic "debunk" of Race Realism via snarky pilpul Youtube vids. Basically a younger Bill Nye type.
This Youtube debate on Race Realism has been going for the past 4 months, (((Kraut & Tea))), versus Jean Francois Gariepy (Québécois PhD Biologist) & Ryan Faulk of The Alternative Hypothesis.
They've been merrily BTFOing Kraut, & now a #TeamKraut defector sent JF a recording of their secret chats with some hilarious moments like his scientists telling him he's wrong & a cringy "reckoning" plot of JF's downfall. Kraut's entire sekrit discord, where they coordinate dox & pilpul, leaks and their world comes TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
Don’t forget to shit on all of them. Even the lesser know people. Also the fact that this ties to the free speech even kilroy should also be brought up
Jordan Turner
WARSKI STREAM IN 20 MIN. PREPARE YOURSELVES
Levi Martin
This all sounds unbelievably autistic.
Asher Gonzalez
O N E F R E N C H Y B O I
Ryder Allen
Zeph better follow through, he's teleported behind Kraut, he just needs to insert the knife.
Camden Miller
Is Spino still mad the Braving Ruin is doing better than him? It’s pretty funny watching his beta rage.
Jason Hernandez
nice try kraut
Christian Adams
> Let's let it be after this thread. hello, kraut
Eli Sanchez
HELIUM TANKS IN THIRTY
Hunter Taylor
Important for lurkers: Kraut is your redpill on the Jewish Question. A lot of you have been pondering on twitter & youtube: >"What motivates Kraut?" >"I don't understand why he is doing this?" >"Why can't he let it go or admit that he was wrong?"
Kraut's Jewishness is the answer. Listen to the smartest man in the room JF from around 40mins explain how Kraut is motivated by a Jewish ethnic hatred of the Goy, and a Jewish fear of losing power/hegemony to White ethno-nationalists: youtube.com/watch?v=_eCr76-hDWA
What Kraut does tactically is the Jewish technique of pilpul, that is argueing disingenuously in bad faith. Nitpicking, hairsplitting, strawmanning etc. in order to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion.
Matthew Jenkins
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Luke Brooks
I say we keep it going as long as people are interested. At least until the Jim video to keep momentum going.
Chase Williams
Kraut is really retarded if he thought Zeph was going to lie down at this.
Jonathan Flores
we need to take down sargon. this bitch was dissing trump and nationalism until he realize he could use it in his favor to make shekels. he's just another SJW in disguise
Zachary Thomas
the zionists were involved in the USA entering WW1
David Russell
Unrelated but your pic reminds me I need to watch starship troopers again
Henry Russell
The mystery of Kraut is explained by pilpul. You can't claim to be a skeptic dedicated to "rational enquiry" and not acknowledge the peculiar disingenuousness of Kraut's videos: the strawmanning, the nitpicking and hairsplitting in bad faith to "win the argument" rather than "make an argument."
This is pilpul, and if you were a genuinely committed to "rational enquiry" you would talk about the corrosive effect pilpul and the pilpul-style of argumentation has on discourse.
Austin Young
I dont want this drama to end, bois :(
Jeremiah Perry
>haha fuck the alt right buncha right wing essjaydoubles! >oh nonono I don't have an opinion either way I'm just a centrist I dunno nuffin!
Ryder Hughes
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Cooper Richardson
Poor Jim just can't get a break.
This video will never get finished at this rate.
Jacob Sullivan
>lets call it quits >while it's a currently ongoing total fucking breakdown
Colton Scott
Updated copypasta >"We don’t allow funds to be collected for anything that facilitates harmful or illegal activities. You cannot post cocks that advocates, threatens, or shows you causing harm to yourself or other people, as well as animals. In the same line, you cannot promote illegal activities such as property crime, distribution of illegal weapons, or drug manufacturing." >"No matter the specific information shared, we also evaluate the context around why it was shared. If it looks like this information is being shared for the purpose of making it easier for a large group to harass that individual, we are likely to consider it doxing. When doxing takes place, we lose the ability to have conversations. Doxing isn’t speech countering speech, it is speech shutting down others’ ability to speak. It removes our ability to discuss ideas, grow as individuals and have a safe space for disagreement." patreon . com/Kraut_and_Tea patreon . zendesk . com/hc/en-us/articles/204914235-Where-can-I-report-a-creator-s-page- Considering the fact that the form will require evidence and not just an accusation twitter.com/BravingRuin/status/942074856664977408 youtube.com/watch?v=hOTVt3AEny8 youtube.com/watch?v=_eCr76-hDWA The fact that Patreon has a reputation for being SJWs, it would be a good idea not to make it about defending the alt-right
That is actually a good point, he has stated that the French should be gassed and has many times said that Muslims should be slaughtered. But he's anti-racist though. After all, we have a name.
Ethan Hughes
Also from a previous thread >"We don’t allow funds to be collected for anything that facilitates harmful or illegal activities. You cannot post cocks that advocates, threatens, or shows you causing harm to yourself or other people, as well as animals. In the same line, you cannot promote illegal activities such as property crime, distribution of illegal weapons, or drug manufacturing." >"No matter the specific information shared, we also evaluate the context around why it was shared. If it looks like this information is being shared for the purpose of making it easier for a large group to harass that individual, we are likely to consider it doxing. When doxing takes place, we lose the ability to have conversations. Doxing isn’t speech countering speech, it is speech shutting down others’ ability to speak. It removes our ability to discuss ideas, grow as individuals and have a safe space for disagreement." patreon . com/Kraut_and_Tea patreon . zendesk . com/hc/en-us/articles/204914235-Where-can-I-report-a-creator-s-page-
This is what I was saying over the weakend. New info keeps coming out at a faster rate than Jim can process it and make a video on it. We're never going to get this video if it keeps escalating like this
Isaiah Butler
Whatbthe fuck happened. A youtuber who made some decent~ish videos turns out to be a massive unbelievable asshole. What in the fuck happened?
Christian Jenkins
Forgot to add that the timestamp for saying that the French should be gassed is starting 35:50
Matthew Jones
holy shit that dude is ugly
he looks like one of those guys that peaked at 16 and knows it deep down
Brandon Peterson
i'm extending an olive branch towards zeph: expose kraut and you and your tranny gf will be left alone.
Brandon Gutierrez
To understand what Kraut is doing and to inoculate yourself to its corrosive anti-rational persuasive power, you need to understand pilpul and call it out when it is used to try to irrationally persuade you. All Jews are taught pilpul, it is likely genetic, a function of verbal IQ, and it is certainly ingrained into their deep culture and child-rearing. Jews will try to use it on you in bad faith again and again, and unless you inoculate yourself many skeptics will fall for the next Kraut, and the Kraut after that, and so on.
Pilpul here is explained by a Jew who laments it's corrosive effect on discourse where Jews are involved: >What this means for contemporary Jewish discourse is critical: Even though many contemporary Jews are not observant, pilpul continues to be deployed. Pilpul occurs any time the speaker is committed to “prove” his point regardless of the evidence in front of him. The casuistic aspect of this hair-splitting leads to a labyrinthine form of argument where the speaker blows enough rhetorical smoke to make his interlocutor submit. Reason is not an issue when pilpul takes over: what counts is the establishment of a fixed, immutable point that can never truly be disputed.
>What is thought to be the Jewish “genius” is often a mark of how pilpul is deployed. The rhetorical tricks of pilpul make true rational discussion impossible; any “discussion” is about trying to “prove” a point that has already been established. There is little use trying to argue in this context, because any points being made will be twisted and turned to validate the already-fixed position.
I fail to see what's wrong with saying the French should be gassed. Can you explain to me why it's so bad?
Cooper Green
> The destruction of those who once were claimed as a principal element of the so called alternative media product of their battle against race realism > Not important to have a general in Sup Forums
fug u
Jeremiah Robinson
Isn't it amazing that we identified this guy as a psycho from watching a single stream with him, Kraut and his friends however...
Adam Baker
It just keeps getting better. Something even bigger is going to drop. Some of his confidants flipped. They're afraid of criminal charges in their countries.
wew lad
Charles Ortiz
It's fucking crabs in a buket with krauts friends each tearing the other down trying to escape the pit but well they already fell into it
Luis Wood
he has it. he has it all.
Evan Lopez
Za rekoning!!!
Liam Powell
Maybe that’s their plan drag this out as long as possible so that everyone gets bored by it the time Jim’s video drops which would have more damage than other ones combined
What is Kraut even trying to say by this? This is classic pilpul: rhetorical smoke to "win" an argument that corrodes the discourse of all involved and obfuscates truth.
James Morgan
He’s not going to do shit because he implicated in it just as much as Kraut and Tears is
Christian Parker
This was the Rekoning Zeph was talking about.
Adam Carter
But he's also a literal sociopath. I can totally see him doing the whole "if you're throwing me under the bus then I'm blowing everyone up along with me!" thing
Cameron Cruz
Kraut's Jewishness explains both his motivation (fear of the threat of White ethno-nationalism) and his tactics (pilpul). The "merits" of Kraut's arguments have been debunked by JF and Alt-Hype, now Kraut's Jewishness explains the meta reasons for the "why" and "how" of what Kraut and other (((race denialists))) do.
Jews want a disunited multi-cultural society they can hold power over and can not be singled out in. Jews want there to be no homogeneous White country that could create a strong self-confident White ethno-nationalist movement: >We Dreamed of Something Marvellous youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM
Because that could be a threat to Jews again like National Socialism was. And they want revenge on Whites for the last time, and for two thousand years of grivences and harboured malice before that. You may love and admire the Roman Empire as the founder of Western Civilisation, but for Jews Rome destroyed and scattered their nation in the Roman-Jewish Wars, they hate Rome and what Rome means. We have alien histories from our very ethno-genesis in deep opposition to eachother.
Any movement towards White ethno-nationalism or idea that enables it is a threat to that Jewish model for White countries, and must be deconstructed and attacked, with tactics like pilpul.
Pretending there is no JQ here is a form of cowardice of the same nature as the Sargons and Centrists who pretend that race does not exist or matter. The discord leak reveals Kraut is a Race Realist in private (he hates the French for Vichy etc.), he just presents a public argument of race denialism out of Jewish ethnic self-interest.
Dominic Thompson
Jims too smart for that, he'd make it a 3 parter and push out the first immediately to keep the tire fire burning
Cooper Lee
Zeph is fucking nuts, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised by this. Kraut already put all the blame on him, so it's not like he has anything to lose at this point.
Brayden Wood
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Robert Robinson
If Zeph releases more damming evidence on kraut will his cuck behaviour be forgiven?
Jim confirmed his movie is going to be a blockbuster.
Jace Martinez
hm
Austin Baker
I think Zeph is enough of a madman to do it.
Jason Lewis
Nah, once a cuck, always a cuck
Ayden White
His horseshoe theory was sort of correct at least. Except for SJWs = AR it turned out that SJWs = Septics.
Evan Hughes
Smear of Woes, Tara without any evidence. In passive-aggressive way tries to call Zeph an alt-right infiltrator. Keeps repeating lies about edgy and ADL situation.
Lies, lies and more lies. Spino as always shows what a shitbag he is.
Christian Ross
> fedoralord community be fedoralord community > overtime, sjws no longer make for good opponents for multiple reasons, basically they're dead horses > target alt-lite next > in comes some french scientist who likes to get drunk and fuck with people > stumbles on one fedoralord > picks apart kraut video > video response battle ensues, fedoralord argues that human brains cannot be affected by their genome, fails at disproving JF > turns more and more erratic, spergy streams happen > gets so desperate rallies together a crew of scientists to help him make arguments and /leftypol/ to dox his opponents > scientists tell him that JF is right, people on both partisans predictably don't like a group gathering together and doxing anyone they don't like, while consistently broadening the scope of who's an acceptable target > one of the scientists leaks chatlogs and conversations to JF > more spergy streams > multiple websites begin to give kraut a deeper look, former steam name leads to name on other forums > more and more depraved shit is to be found with him openly posting it and being an insufferable kike for years, with dildos and nippleclamps > suddenly, three main actors begin fingerpointing at each other and splitting apart > kraut releases insincere apology _____ You are here __________ > Kraut waits for storm to blow over and begins to join the newest fad: 'debunking holohoax denialism' > achieves pyrric victory but embarrasses himself in the process > spergs out even harder with more fun material to collect > retreats off internet for a while, rethinks and looks into matter with a different outlook > returns to internet with a new name and a new persona: Kraut and Tea turns into Vaterland and he's full 1488
Wyatt Murphy
also (((heinrich heine)))
Mason Cooper
A traitor is a traitor regardless of which side he is on. He didn't switch sides out of a change of heart, he switched for personal benefit.
Ryan Gonzalez
What? No fucking way. The fucking Jew.
Michael Hill
so what, he folded? fuck
Thomas Anderson
Can I get a basic gestalt here? I remember this kraut asshole but what did he do? Is this really Metokur video level stuff or is it just a troll making autists Reee?
William Cox
No, absolutely not. He's a sociopath, a piece of shit, and a literal cuckold. But if he's going to held with the Prisoner's Dilemma thing that's going on, then he's free to go ahead. He still gets tossed in an oven when this is over
Alexander Foster
>So anons, at least for 4/pol/, I'd say things are coming to an end. At least for now. We have lots of lulzy material and vectors to find more material. 4/pol/ doesn't need an additional permanent general. Let's let it be after this thread.
"SHUT IT DOWN"
"...p-please"
Eli Reyes
well he already got shitted on by so many and now kraut puts all the blame on him too, might aswell just go all in
Alexander Sullivan
They're turning on each other. LOL
Michael Sanders
Because skeptics are just tone-policed leftists. Same as the lefty "SJWs" but with less overt "fuck whitey" stuff.
Charles Smith
i don't know who literally any of these people are
Ethan Kelly
Taking in consideration the level of autism and sociopatical behavior from Zeph. I will not be surprised that he is extremely paranoid individual who will stab anyone in the back
Matthew Butler
ITS NOT OVER TILL YOU HAVE NO PATREON AND CHANNEL BUDDY :D
Wyatt Price
I want to know if people are forgiving Zeph for turning on kraut. They shouldn't be left alone for throwing him under the bus. What's the public perception like?
Caleb Butler
"muh individualism" fags collapsing like a house of cards. Fucking hilarious.
Andrew Clark
He needs to release all the shit the lesser known people have done I feel like they’re getting a huge pass on this
What did you guys think of Millennial Woes' rebuttal videos to Kraut? There's a lot of JF and Alt Hype talk, but Woes' videos were good and comfy as usual too
Parker Murphy
>This video will never get finished at this rate. I mean this train wreck keeps on delivering. Alt-Hype's summery video is already outdated after just a couple of days.
