What is wrong with Bernie Sanders offering us free shit?

What is wrong with Bernie Sanders offering us free shit?

I am a Bernout girl, but am open minded and honestly want to know what the "alt-right" thinks is wrong with that.

We have added to our deficit through pointless wars and other stupid shit that did not benefit us. What's wrong with adding to the deficit and benefiting from it? It's clear the government isn't gonna ever pay off the deficit anyway

Might as well get free money and free college instead of paying for our countrymen to die in pointless wars. We can cut Military spending by just a small amount to pay for a basic income for everyone and still have the world's best military

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Taking white peoples money to give to stupid niggers who go to college on affirmative action

Bernie bros are gay.

>implying US has the world's best military
it's 2018, you can't be the world's best military with a bunch of pointless weapons anymore, you need hackers and propaganda experts and military strategists that know better to rely on subcontractors and having bases in every country on earth so that your country can get dragged into every single conflict on earth.

Tits or GTFO

whites already pay too much
more free stuff = more welfare = more whites paying = more nonwhites getting free stuff = lower white birthrate = higher nonwhite birthrate

Its not free, you will take home a lot less every month.

He does not understand economics. 1 year of his healthcare plan would not be able to be funded by the 1% even if you took all of its money it makes in a year. (Only for like 4 months we could run it) We already take like 60% of rich peoples money so they will probably flee country if we pushed farther.

Will there be people who abuse it? Sure, but isn't that a worthy price to pay for the vast majority who will use it to further themselves and contribute to society? You have to weigh the pros and cons

show us your dreadlocked bum-bush!

All commies get the rope.

soal democracy like those in scandinavian countries only work with a homogeneous high iq population

Nothing is free, retard. The tax rise would be insane.

*social democracy

>more whites paying
Not if we cut Military spending. I saw Tedtalk which showed just cutting Military spending by 25% is enough to cover Bernie's free shit. No tax hikes needed, still have more Military spending then the next 4 countries combined

yayy lets all pay 48% for shit healthcare that will recommend private facilities for treatment

>What's wrong with adding to the deficit and benefiting from it?
The thing is, it won't add to the deficit. Instead, money will be taken from the people that earned it and given to those who haven't. No thank you.

what about if I don't take anything home?

Do you know how infuriating retarded people like you are who don't understand how money or the economy works?

>Hurrrr Durrr take the money from the rich

That's not how money works, you fucking cunt.

>when the anti-gov pro-market snek doesn't like anti-gov pro-market basic income policy

>I am a Bernout girl
tits or gtfo you leftist whore

Do you want free stuff in exchange of your conscience and freedom

>Will there be people who abuse it? Sure,
Okay then, I oppose it

CPA here,

Everyone at my firm was laughing at his plan during the election. It’s not just the redneck retards that don’t like it. There are intelligent, level-headed adults that just thought it was silly to back a plan like that when the math just didn’t add up.

Here's your socialist hero

It sounds good on the surface but it's completely unsustainable. European countries are hitting this reality and gaming things as much as they can to keep the welfare state going but it will never last.

The scary thing about nationalized healthcare is it leads to a total lack of healthcare for the general population aside from the wealthy who can afford private care.

When everyone is covered for everything regardless of status it consumes hospitals, clinics, available doctors, specialists, you name it, all become tremendously difficult to use.

Our current system of private insurance controls costs and also helps availability, when we have to pay something to see someone it discourages us from doing it for stupid shit like your pinky hurts.

Also when you have a national system older people are going to die, when resources are rationed and re-allocated it means you are basically fucked when you are no longer of working age.

>People talking out their ass
Those TEDtalks tend to not have any evidence to/infographs to back their claims merely relying on "expertise"

The military is a very important asset for the US. The US controls the rest of the world through the UN. If the US did not have it's military they can kiss their world hegemony goodbye.

I agree that that would be a good thing though, it's just never going to happen.

Your own graph proves you wrong. See the 609 billion going to the Military? It really only takes 25% of that to pay for most of Bernie's stuff.

It's just a budget restructuring, no tax increase on anyone needed

Nothing is free ypu stupid whore

sportscar bernie is my favorite bernie.

>free shit
Why do Leftists not understand this word? Free shit is the lack of mortgage payment successful people could have made on a house for your "free" college. Free shit is when that couple puts off having a kid cause it's too expensive for your "free" healthcare. Free shit is the lack of good paying blue collar jobs so everyone goes on welfare or deals drugs since a small business is too expensive to run.

FREE SHIT, is a credit loan from the possible success of today and tomorrow, for the payment of any kind of decent future the people of a Nation could have had.
>t-t-tax t-the rich!
That's why the rich are financing your media, universities, news, tech, entrainment and politicans? So you can become a great little socialist??? The rich finance their own apparent destructors, so they'll always be on the right side of the line when the canon fodder are being mowed down for "progress".

The only way out of this mess is no "get success quick" schemes, but to think like the actual successful immigrants of the past did. Generationally....

Oh wait, you're just going to go extinct anyways.

It's already happening and China is going to fill that void. None of use are going to like it either once that happens.

>Our current system of private insurance controls costs
hahahahahaahaha

War makes $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hello fellow CPA, still in public or have you made the switch to private?

Can't have poor boys at Exxon and similar companies not having our goy shekels and handouts and actually having to pay shit, including covering their fuckups.

Bernie IS a sellout, though, even despite saying right shit.
Also, basic income is dumb idea.

Or you could just blow everything up.
>Ancient Greek history records a man was told by his doctor to never touch wine. "One more glass might kill you!" the doctor said. No sooner had he said this than the man snatched up a wine-skin and drank it down. He then jumped off his rooftop to his death. "Thus I shall prove it was not the wine that killed me," he said.

>private insurance
hahahahaha

>posts a picture of his investment in a company paying out a dividend to prove that he knows best when he says citizens shouldn't get a dividend from their investment into their nation

China is waaaaaay less obsessed about spreading their political ideology across the entire world.
China just wants a strong China.

>free
Tell us, who pays for this 'free' stuff?

show your tits or fuck off, roastie commie

wtf I love Bernie now

Public for now, still enjoying the grind.

Cool. You're an awesome snowflake. write your personal check out to me. I love free shit too.

Capitalism would be the best ideology if people could take responsibility for their own actions. Since people are irresponsible idiots, it is not.

Lol, wow, you guys are so hostile, you seem to think your taxes will increase. My argument is everything he proposes is fundable just by restructuring the budget.

No tax increase in that case. The government spends too much money on pointless shit, like tons of Military equipment we don't need

>Bernie Sanders offering us free shit
Is bernie sanders a very charitable trillionaire? no, well he has nothing to give. fuck off back to r/eddit.

2.4-2.8 trillion/yr for bernies plan.. when we make 3.4 in revenue

>Muh free stuff

Nothing he proposed wouldn't cost the taxpayers a ton of money or rose the debt and deficit by trillions.
How can you promise free healthcare when the medicaid system is already collapsing?

I didn’t invest for the dividend, it was a great growth investment.

$ETP is my dividend investment

Teets or gethefuckout

I am not alt right, I am just right, and I want to give my money to my daughter. I don't even know you.

so what's your forecast on America?

>What's wrong with adding to the deficit and benefiting from it?
Because we'll be paying for those wars for longer than Bernie will live as is

You think the rich are going to lose their power and influence just because shithead college kids want free shit?

Who's money you giving away nigger lover???

>Why do Leftists not understand this word? Free shit is the lack of mortgage payment successful people could have made on a house for your "free" college. Free shit is when that couple puts off having a kid cause it's too expensive for your "free" healthcare. Free shit is the lack of good paying blue collar jobs so everyone goes on welfare or deals drugs since a small business is too expensive to run.

You are assuming there would be tax hikes or other policies that take money from people.

EVERYTHING he pruposes is workable by restructuring our budget with no tax increase needed

Holy shit, how dense are you people?

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How much of other people's money, blood and sweat do you need for your "free" stuff??!!??
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Jesus fuck

>My argument is everything he proposes is fundable just by restructuring the budget.

Do you not realize that most of our budget already goes to welfare and healthcare?
We haven't had a budget surplus in almost 20 years because of the increasing costs of these services. Interest to our debt will soon cost more than our entire military

Is /r/sanders2020 down at the moment?

>What is wrong with Bernie Sanders offering us free shit?
It's not free. Someone has to pay. I'm one of those people. Fuck off and get your own shit.

Because he had literally no plan except "Tax Wallstreet!" to pay gor the billions of dollars worth of shit over 10-30 years. At least Trump had some ideas for his plans.

Tax money is still my money

>What is wrong with Bernie Sanders offering us free shit?

>offering us free shit?

>free shit?

>free

>FREE

It's not free retard, and wasting money on stupid wars doesn't justify wasting even more money just cuz muh free shit. People like you are the reason this country is so fucked.

Take note pol, this is a glimpse into the mind of an average voter.

>never going to pay off our defecit
Learn the difference between debt and defecit you cunt.

This shit is never free. Take it from a leaf here our "free health care" costs thousands a year. We pay around 33% income tax. Plus 13% sales tax. Plus property taxes and lisencing fees. Our utilities are government run and used as another tax stream. Electricity costs 120$ a month for a small house here. When we buy gasoline it is almost double the price it is in the USA due to road tax, carbon tax, federal excise tax, and provinicial tax. Oh and sales tax on that also. So tell me again how free everything is???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>Capitalism would be the best ideology if people could take responsibility for their own actions.

You've got it backwards. The only reason socialism marginally works in your country is because "people could take responsibility for their own actions."

In America, that will never happen.

By the way
You pay down a debt
Defecit is the state of running at a loss.

For the learning impaired.

>people in this thread who think they have superior economic thinking to a Bernie supporter
>they think it's more economically efficient to have dozens of government programs with means testing instead of just sending out a payment to everyone

there's no such thing as a free lunch, dumbass. nothing is free, if you didn't pay for it immediately then you will pay it with taxes.

>giving everyone five dollars is better than revamping our navy to oppose chinese and korean aggression

Student loan debt is ~$4 trillion now.
To put that into perspective, the National mortgage debt is ~$10 trillion.

Students are sunken with debt and unable to use their capital to invest in themselves or stimulate the economy, because it is all going to student loan interest.

What do you think? I don’t think it looks good but I can’t read the future.

>he thinks he knows geopolitics too
korea has the bomb, theres no aggression to handle the bomb, only diplomacy.
china is building a road to europe to completely bypass their economic reliance on trade with the USA and you dumbfucks are completely ignoring your impending doom.

t. tinfoil hate wearing moron who thinks the John Birch Society and shitty Yuri Bezmenov lectures are 100% true

Oh, you naive child. You actually believe that bullshit?
You truly are gullible

Swedish people are not good at personal resonsibility. People spend their money like crazy. The only reason we're doing 'okay' is because it's hard to skip paying taxes for the average joe.

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right because the USA allowed nationally backed private companies to drop the ability for students to default on their debts which makes it not like modern debts at all but more like debt bondage (slavery).
turns out when you let rich people be shits they do shit things and fuck everything for everyone.
so why be anti-bernie?

God I'm glad crypto currencies will make socialist go away forever.

Let's go through this slow because the OP is literally retarded.

This stupid cunt is saying if we took 25% of the defense budget, we could do all of Bernie socialist faggotry.

However let's do the math...

The defense budget in 2015 was 609 billion dollars.

25 percent of 609 billion is 152,250,000,000

Divide 152,250,000,000 amongst 350,000,000 Americans not counting illegals.

That leaves $435 per American.

These faggots are saying they'll give every American college, health care and Bernie's socialist utopia for $435.

This cunt is a retard who is too stupid to function in this world.

You don't (shouldn't) get fucking hand outs in life. You need to work for what you get, if someone is working hard and still is coming up short on things, I have no problem giving money to those people for help, i'm not heartless. Welfare, food stamps, etc. should have mandatory work programs associated with them. You can't find a job, don't worry, we have some labor for you. You're going to work for these "free" programs to get them. It's not acceptable for a hard working individual to be in the same caste system as a professional welfare mother.

Realistically we just have too many retards to care for in this great country.

and 2. education for what? Trade jobs? College? Apprenticeships? Seems like most people just wanna got to college and learn some pretty pointless things without ever learning how to make a living. Sure sometimes for some people that works out but its rarely ever the case judging by how many people get jobs in their degree.

I'm not going to pay for some kids to waste my tax dollars not getting jobs. They aren't necessarily any smarter because if they were smart to begin with they'd be employed.

>t. worthless faggot who thinks he's accomplishing something trolling 4chin

I bet Asians are paying more per capita.

You are obviously retarded, Bernie's plan costs in the trillions per year.

>restructuring our budget
Our budget is already fucked. Everything I said isn't GOING to happen, but IS happening in the modern day. Back 100 years ago, you had less taxes but more socialized people and communities. Today? More taxes and isolated people and either no or superficial communities, and really that's what these Socialists are trying to do. Replace family, friends, neighbours and communities with government intervention, and it SIMPLY WILL NOT WORK. IT HAS NEVER WORKED.

The most famous claim to fame these dumbasses say their precious GOVERNEMNT GOD has done, was vaccinations and banning halogenated substances... But both of these were already full steam ahead at the grass roots level before the collective sociopaths swooped in to take credit, like they always do.

>FREEEEEEEEE
>B-BUT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>DID I MENTION FREEEEEEEE?
Nothing is free. Nothing.

Your CIA nigger created him. Take a bit of credit please.

Academic here.

The reasons I don't like the government giving free shit to you is because 1) people become dependent and progressively you get more and more spending and the government becomes more powerful and corrupt, ending up with a situation like Greece, 2) generally the money is better allocated by the economy than by the government and our public representatives, whose politics are totally unrelated to the overall utility of the real economy, and 3) government is inherently flawed and corrupt to begin with.

I do think we should cut our military budget and end all foreign involvement as well as shut down all of our bases, and dismantle the CIA/Pentagon.

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face it you're lazy
basic income
you're too stupid to realize that happens everything goes up in price

Nothing is "free." Someone else would be paying for it and that's why MOST of all citizens have a problem with, even neoliberals.

They wouldn’t need to restrict defaulting if it were just White Americans taking out the loans, they’re paying them off just fine. But alas, here we are getting dragged down with the mud.

The audacity of you fucking retards. You come here sharing tips and analysis of crypto, when it's just a roll of the fucking dice. You're like a sad old booze hound that thinks he's got a great method for winning the coin slots. You all think you're Jordan Belfort. If you weren't £1000 deep in crypto by 2014 you're a fucking victim. If you haven't already lost most of your money, you're going to at one point. Even the photos you post of your "14k portfolio", you're not kidding anyone. Spend 10k, up 4k one day, down 4k the next. This should not be a business and finance thread it should be a help thread for problem gamblers. You're fucking pathetic. You're lazy. You have nothing going in in life. That's why you choose crypto currency. You're all too lazy to invest in real business ventures. Take me for example, a real entrepreneur. I've been buying and selling cars since I was 17. It's paid my bills for 6 years. Just this morning I bought a "spares or repairs" listing for £150. Got it running after a quick reference of the hanes manual and an hour on YouTube. Same car, similar age and millage are selling for £4500 on autotrader. Night just sell it for £4000, for a quick sale. Even if I buy a car that is truly fucked, it still has scrap value, real physical value. What do you have? Nothing. Ive also put the deposit on a car that cost 3300 but will sell for 5000 easily. And all that took was 15 mins looking for a good deal. Last year I used only £8000 to buy my uncle a van and tolls for his landscaping business, for which I'm getting £1200 per month cash for zero effort. No sleepless nights. No spending hours each day following trends (100% pointless task) and now I'm looking to buy a small piece of low grade land for forestry operations. You idiots really have no idea about business or finance. I hope bitcoin crashes to 1k most of you fucking hang yourself. Worthless posers.

>What is wrong with FREE EVERYTHING???

The problem is it's NOT free...someone is paying for it.

And it's NEVER the 1%, it's always the middle class. You see, the 1% aren't stupid...they have the money to move all their assets to another place that doesn't tax them...the only ones who will be stuck is the Middle Class....

Higher taxes aren't the solution. The solution is lower prices. Everything is too expensive today...rent, insurance, food, fuel, etc.

That's the solution.

>The defense budget in 2015 was 609 billion dollars.
what about over a decade? using a single year seems a bit silly for unending programs.

also if we're talking about basic income you need to first free up all the money from welfare programs (the amount they give out AND use to function as a means testing program).
you're the dumb one here who is missing on the "restructuring" part.

>Free money

Fuck me I'm triggered

>Durrr we already have alot of debt. What should we do about it?
>Hurrr I know! Lets add more!
Also tits or gtfo

Universal Healthcare is the one Bernie idea I agree with.

In the US the average median income is $51,000. The average person in the US also spends around $9,500 a year on health insurance. That's 18% of the average persons salary.

In Canada, people pay a yearly tax of 4.95% to cover healthcare. So if the average US person paid 5% of their income to taxes, they would receive complete healthcare coverage for $2,550, saving $7,000 a year. Right now in America the medical system is also completely bogged down with the bureaucracy caused by having to deal with insurance companies in order to cover every checkup. Hospitals could reduce spending and improve efficiency, while providing a cheaper service to the average person. The only people who wouldn't benefit from implementing universal healthcare are the very wealthy and the insurance companies. In exchange we'd get a healthier population, and save 400,000+ families from going into medical bankruptcy every year. Even if Americans paid twice as many taxes as Canadians, and five times as much as Australians, they'd be saving HALF what they currently spend.

Back in the day the church used to look after individuals. They would help homeless people by giving them a bed. Help hungry people by giving them food. Now we have the church destroyed and the government looks after people. ANd of course their only solution is to take taxes from productive people and hand cash over to the bums. The church used to do a better job and using only donations obviously were far more responsible at spending.