Be honest, how many of you would be left wing if they abandoned all the degeneracy, idpol and immigrant shit?

Be honest, how many of you would be left wing if they abandoned all the degeneracy, idpol and immigrant shit?

Like socialist economics, etc
I would personally. Libertarians are retarded.

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>Be honest, how many of you would be left wing if they abandoned all the degeneracy, idpol and immigrant shit?

That's called National Socialism and is what a large number of us consider the ideal government thus far. Sage for stupid thread and stupid question.

That's called national socialism and it's about a country supporting itself into an actual future.

I always thought they just used "socialism" as a way to attract working class voters but they weren't actually really socialist. I don't know much about Nazi economy though.

Already am.

Can you even exist in the left at all if you're a white person criticizing immigration?

They invested in people worth investing in.

That's the major difference between a destructive Marxist welfare state and national socialism.

Give a white man a $20 and he'll be build something worth $40, give a nigger a $20 and he'll buy a pair of shoes worth $10.

That's the problem.
Honestly I don't get it either. Wouldn't importing a bunch of third world laborers working for cheap undermine the workers of the country you're supposed to help?
I could get on board with them if the majority weren't so fucking brainwashed.
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It's true.
I think welfare should mainly be given to people who work an honest job but for whatever reason need a little extra support for their family or to go to school or something. It shouldn't go to people who just sit on their ass and buy crack and shoes though. There needs to be stricter standards.

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Leninist social patriotism is more viable than civic nationalism
But lefties or should i say der ewige neolib
Needs to drop
the idpol/genderless void
Anti gun stance?? Which confuses the shit out of me since marx states the proletariat needs to always be armed
Mass immigration because thats completely antithetical to socialism
Beacuse it's literally invited hordes of low paid workers to squeeze more capital out of them and create debt slaves

Tbh i think the kikes subverted the left to create this weak pro capitalist idpol infused faggots to prevent any form of class consciousness in the west

>There needs to be stricter standards.

Trump enacted a law based around this, the liberals went insane over it, I know this shit flashes through news cycles in the span of days but do you remember?

Mixed economics and non marxist socialism is the key. Lolbergs are retarded, but they understand markets more than leftists.

>how many of you are willing to submit to a Jewish meme economy if they stopped the torture at this point?
I see four lights! Four lights!

This is pretty much where I stand
I actually don't remember that, but I'm not surprised
Yeah I've been looking a lot into mixed economies, nordic model, social market system. Seems like the best system, but it could collapse if too many people take advantage of it.

It changes by the moment as the media is in an endless dance to keep everything from the public except "REGRET VOTING FOR TRUMP, YOU STUPID REBELLIOUS FUCKING GOY."

A law that requires immigrants have something of value to offer the country, another law that denies them welfare until they've lived in the country for at least five years. That was a good one around June.

They were so fucking mad accidentally released a bunch of news stories saying the law was around before Trump but Obama just ignored it which is OK becuase king nigger does no wrong in the name of his masters.

I do care about the nature and the future and that's what bugs me because the left is so fucking crazy but the right doesnt seem to care about that stuff at all.

You can't build a future on the backs of people who don't care about the future.

Whites built western civilization to a point where the entire world wants to take it, what the fuck are you talking about?

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What stopping you then? Just pile all your available food on top of all of your money and set fire to it — there, all the glory of the socialism with none of the western added degeneracy.

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OP is a socialist faggot who thinks he should have his money divvied up by bureaucrats and welfare leeches

Not at all. Even if it were perfectly executed, which is impossible, communism sounds like hell where you are just some cog, where life has no meaning and personal liberties don't exist.

Social Nationalist ideologies are how humans are supposed to live

This.

To commies:
>get you and 5 other, trustworthy, working comrades to rent a 1 bedroom house (sleep in living room, garage, tipi in backyard, WHATEVER!)
>have each of you guys pool to a common "people's" household fund
>be frugal, patient, disciplined and practice delayed gratification
>do this for 3 years
>by the end of 3 years, you guys should have accumulated about $200k
>invest/buy/whatever with your fellow comrades
Solved your poverty problem.
>inb4 smash capitalism
>inb4 smash the bourgeois
>inb4 smash the state
C'mon, with weaponized nanotech and a.i., you think revolution is possible?
The Worker's Revolution starts on a micro level. Stop complaining and start pooling.

Unruhe is 200% based.

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I don't care about your stupid ideologies. I want secure boarders and cucks can go fuck off to the spawning pits from where their mandingos come and put a plug in it.

>hurr I want to be a cuckservative
I don't have a small brained Wojack small enough for how stupid you are

This thread is Duginist shilling.

Capitalism is a platform for the cryptojew.

The Third Reich rebuilt Germany by bringing the unemployment rate to zero. Jews refused to work (assuming they could leech off the German population with foreign currency and favors) and so were put in labor camps to break them of their malfeasant practices of usury and lending using foreign, Jew-supplied currency. Labour was socialized by the state and it created a strong nation and foundation for growth. Jews multiple times tried to destroy this national core.

How did they change the narrative so that Hitler just decided to suddenly burn six million Jews in ovens? went to my university's library today and I couldn't find a single book about Italian fascism. Books from that Sup Forums approved list were nowhere to be found- but academic critiques of those books were plentiful. Make no mistake - National Socialism was a socialist ideology that has (((somehow))) been made into some cartoonish image of white men in uniforms randomly attacking innocent minorities. Hint: academia, media, and entertainment are controlled psyops against Gentiles.

I unironically agree that even though capitalism is the best system it needs some socialist policies to keep it in check. Otherwise it will eat itself. The higher amount someone creates the higher he should be taxed. This equalises the playing field between smaller and bigger players in the system and prevents the mass hoarding of wealth from a small amount of people and corporations. The thing is that you fucking lefties go way overboard because you hate everyone who is better than you. You hate success because you can't see yourselves in that position and this is why you can't tolerate it.

>if they abandoned all the degeneracy, idpol and immigrant shit?
Then it wouldn't be left-wing anymore, baka.

You cant abandon idpol, because idpol basically proclaims that different perspectives produce different versions of the truth, and this is a fact. To drop idpol would just be a return to modernity and ignorance. Idpol is here to stay because its a necessary part of the construction of truths.

>Be honest, how many of you would be left wing if they were right wing?
OP is retarded

The left is not libertarian they are socialist posing as libertarian because socialism must pretend it is a different ideology in order to push his agenda no true libertarian participates in a government political system it violates non-aggression principle

Left-wing means socialism and equality. Special rights for minorities is not socialist method - it is capitalist method. Socialist method - is when majority oppress minorities.

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Either way Marxist communism requires the destruction of everything.

Jesus fuck your a retarded burger

I don't blame the Marxists I blame the Bourgeoisie

"The new economic powers of the bourgeoisie led to their political empowerment. While the bourgeoisie had originally served the nobility or the monarchy, they had come in the middle of the 19th century to control the representative states of Europe. In fact, as Marx famously notes, "the executive of the modern State is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie" (82). With this political empowerment came the destruction of the social fictions on which previous societies were based. Instead of focusing on the relationship of men to 'natural' superiors and inferiors, both in this life and the next, or even the indistinct Rights of Man championed in the first half of the 19th century, the bourgeoisie introduced an ethic based on the absolute right to free trade and the rational, egoistic pursuit of profit."

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I don't want to live under the system where your neighbour can falsely report you the state and you be sent for 20 years in Gulag. Same with commie shit and nazi trash.
Fuck off western amerinigger.

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>LOOK GUIZ GHE LEFT CAN MEME TOO LOL IM JUST LIKE YOU NOT LIKE THOSE SJWS RIGHT? HAHA
>Unironic 'socialist' after 100 years worth of evidence that it's retarded
You're not even fighting for anything real here like your blood, culture, family, or homeland. You just want to play social-engineer. This is the very definition of a LARPer; somebody who plays pretend by fighting for something that doesn't exist. Also, don't fucking tell me that 'le I'm for da system that makes da real stuff better!' You know damn well that you're fucking lying. This is why I and nearly everyone else subconsciously hates communists, neo-cons, and neo-liberals. Fuck you autists.

>I always thought they just used "socialism" as a way to attract working class voters but they weren't actually really socialist
Well they definitely did use the red color and the word 'socialism' to attract the working class, but their economy was fundamentally Keynesian, like most Western countries at the time.

I don't know why you people want to cuck to corporations so much, but there's virtually no such thing as a 'free market' in today's day and age.

The Nazi economic doctrine was similar to the current Chinese one: It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches the mouse. Or 'rat' in the case of the Nazis.

Their economy is all over the place, too. Regulations here, nationalizations there, private enterprise here, price fixing there.

Are you implying that I would hate a socialist who is also a nationalist?

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That exists, none of these 3 things are required for socialism
Most socialist states have been socially conservative in most issues
Nat"Soc" isn't socialism

Welcome to Sup Forums, newfag. Now get the fuck out.

Marxists give an economic definition of the bourgeoisie to hide their belonging to it at best. At worst they belong to the capitalist class : rich bankers and industrialists, - as Marx and Lenine were. They, and especially Marx, served as controlled opposition to eradicate the aristocraty and the monarchy in favor of the capitalists, then diverting the popular class with a supposed "bourgeoisie" oppression (except that it wasn't the bourgeoisie which holds the industries), giving a rat's ass about revolutionnary socialist movements.

Before its victory, the communist zealot earns some respect. After it, he's nothing more than an occupied bourgeois.

I mean by "occupied" a "busy" bourgeois. Excuse my french.

>Be honest, how many of you would be left wing if they abandoned all the degeneracy, idpol and immigrant shit?

What is National Socialism OP?

>Nat"Soc" isn't socialism
Not kike socialism

National socialism isn't socialism, unless you mean Hitler's version of socialism which isn't socialist either.

This. The welfare system is shit. I know, I live in a country where they give it to anybody at will - including rapefugees. But if given to those who ACTUALLY need it, then I would support the system.

i saw a documentary about fat people getting thousands of pounds each month including their rent paid for by the government and they dont lose weight because they would lose the benefits

Leftists had a good gloat when the BNP membership list was leaked. These people didn't care what happened to those that joined a legal political party under a democratic system. Wikileaks didn't care either. I'll never forgive them for putting their own people in harms way.

>given to those who ACTUALLY need it,
It's probably even worse here, I got a welfare cheque for 3 months a few years back when I had no work and a bit of a drinking problem, they offered me fucking a diagnosis of DISABILITY which means a cheque for life with no responsibilities to better yourself. Liberals are fucked.
>pic the dyke that run Ontario, and yes it's actually openly gay

>implying Sup Forums isn't all just bitter lefties

Betrayal is a powerful thing OP. It has a way of not fading with time.