Question for Trump Supporters

What would your honest opinion about the repeal of Net Neutrality, the reduction of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase and the recent tax cuts be, if those things happened under Hillary's presidency

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NN repeal would not have happened under a Clinton presidency and if it did, I still would have supported it.
There are contrarian retards (and false-flaggers posing as them), who do oppose it because "libruls are for it!".

However, the real opposition to it seems to be from technologically and economically literate persons who realizes that "dude we need NN cause packaged internet and ISPs are evil" is a simplistic and nonsensical canard.

Yes things may be different but I believe that all those actions support a more sensible, free market, smaller government society which I think is more ideal, and I'd be very happy with Hillary Clinton.

>talks about monopolies in the same post he claims there won't be packaged internet
>says net neutrality isn't necessary just repeal those stupid zoning laws that prevent competition
>there is no movement nor incentive for the government to change these before or after net neutrality
>nor will there ever be one
>competition didn't prevent television from being a packaged deal
So is this man schizophrenic or just retarded?

Shut up niggers. Less bank and ISP BS. Fuck Hillary and Trump. The system is broken.

Merry Christmas.

I remember the internet before NN...it did nothing to help us, getting rid of it will do nothing too. Its just a battle between some companies.
For the parks thing, I noticed when they were expanded for no reason. So not having a reason to shrink them works for me. More flapping about shit that doesnt matter.

>competition didn't prevent cable prevented from being a packaged deal
>my pattern recognition skills trump reality and
Stupidity that shows total ignorance of technology.
The cable channels themselves weren't "prevented" because it was never their intent NOT to be packaged. Cable is highly centralized by it's very design, necessitating, this- which is why, so long as the TV carrier was paying them for the content, they wouldn't have any reason to object.

>there is no movement nor incentive for the government to change these before or after net neutrality
>nor will there ever be one

Then why was there incentive for NN in the first place? What is the incentive for that? There was widespread public awareness of, and advocacy for, NN. If people can be so "triggered" over NN going away, then why the fuck wouldn't they also be upset over laws that ensure local monopolies?

You also are wrong--- Upper level government would have an interest in it from a self-interested standpoint and from the standpoint of national interest. From a self interested perspective, it would empower the federal government's overreach in local communities in nullifying lower-level local laws. Ridding the country of these local monopoly/zoning laws would obviously enable newcomers' entry to these previously closed markets, sparking competition which itself would necessitate the need to offer "better" services than the competitor, ushering in improvements in areas where the monopolist would have previously had zero incentive to do so.

AH yes another jew who thinks net neutrality is completely good. Why all of the sudden are the big bad oligopolies and of course huge corporations a against the repeal? Could it be repealing the government regulation enacted in 2015 could re open the internet to the market and make google and bing and amazon actually fucking compete with the little guys they fear most ? I don't know jew could it be that they don't want small competitors because then the consumers however smart they are excluding my fellow dumb ass mellinials would build up these little guys who actually value their customers? How would I react to the tax cuts well lets see? Cutting the corporate tax means more employment and bigger salaries but if you live in a state controlled by democrats and socialists they will not lower their local taxes so me who lives in Georgia is perfectly fine since my elected representatives are conservative they will lower state taxes and my district taxes so I am perfectly fine.

The same. I think repealing is dumb.

Most opponents of NN seem to have no technical knowledge of networking infrastructure, or work for ISPs.

The internet was better before net neutrality.

How is competition going to work if google can already outspend them from the start?
Are are you saying huge megacorps will have an easier time competing with google, because they control the existing infrastructure?

Quints is right on this one.

Can't argue with those digits I guess.

well let's discuss this, I never said competition will work, but it is almost impossible to avoid google having to lower their prices on their services because if NN is repealed, this means that its easier to enter the market. SO in conclusion if google and all these internet giants don't lower their price son any of their product why the fuck should I spend my moeny on them when I can invest wisely into a smaller company and if said company begins to become big become filthy rich from investment or get great items for lower prices. Its all about competition, if google is smart to still remain top shark they would lower their prices, thats why they love NN it makes it almost impossible for the little guys to enter the market.

>net neutrality
Still oppose its repeal. Pic related, yes, lets give THOSE companies the right to control what we can or can't access on the internet. What could possibly go wrong?

>bears ears, grand staircase
Don't care one way or the other.

>tax cuts
I do oppose raising taxes on the poor and the middle-class to pay for corporate tax cuts, but I don't oppose tax cuts on principle.

Yep those digits settle the argument fuck NN.

Obama expanded those two natural parks into """monuments""" on his way out.

If a president's been in office for 8 years and decides to do something like that during the last 100 days, there's a good chance they're setting the next person up for failure.

In this case the state governments were planning on using those properties for the natural resources they contain. Obama expanded the scope of the parks to include those areas. And Trump is simply undoing what has not been law for more than a year.

Of course the media makes no mention of when Obama expanded these parks and for what purpose.

Oh, is this one of those 'hypothetical' questions? As in, what if? Do you have anything to offer that would incline she would have done these things? No? So it's just a question of 'she totally was not going to do these things but lol let's just say she would'?

uhhhhh, wow. Wtf I love Hillary now thanks!

literally still wouldn’t give a fuck

i realy like it net neutrality was internet communism fuck it

>raising taxes on the poor and the middle-class

The only people who are poor or middle-class who will end up paying more taxes are the people who have been paying large sums to state governments and having their Federal contributions subsidized by people who live in low-tax States. Why should they get the benefits of living in a high tax State while low tax states subsidize their Federal bill?

Pay your fair share

degits confirm it , it shall be known
NET NEUTRALITY SUCKS DICK

>Pay your fair share
Gee, where have I heard that phrase before?

NN WAS A POLICY THAT CAME FROM A DOCTORED ADVERTISEMENT AND SPREAD FUD ON REDDIT INTO MASS HYSTERIA THAT WASN'T EVEN AN ISSUE IN THE US, AND WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT.

Really gets my Morty Rickin'

That's the point, retard. These virtue signaling Lefty's love to talk about everyone else paying their fair share. When someone comes along and says "hey you need to start paying for those state tax benefits you receive" they all freak out.

If you want to live in a high-tech State and receive the benefits of living in a high tax state that's fine. But you shouldn't have your federal tax subsidized by people scriptures on to make different state tax decisions. Pay your fair share.

She wouldnt cut taxes unless the bill was titled "White Foreskins"
She probably wouldn't reduce some low-tier monuments because she's not trying to save money.
I wouldn't be allowed to express my opinion on Net Neutrality because between it, Fake News act of 2016 and Telecom act of 1996, right wingers would be banned from the internet.

None of this would matter to me anyway because I've likely been conscripted to fight world war 3 vs russia so I'm probably split in half by a land mine right now.

>it's not hypocrisy when we do it
Federal taxes should be low across the board, for everyone. Regardless of which state they live in.

>b-but they're librul states

>if NN is repealed, this means that its easier to enter the market
Easier to enter which market?
The search engine market?
I don't see why.
As for entering the ISP market, I think that there are plenty of other legal issues keeping that back more than NN ever did.

Other way around.
Salt repeal is against those paying out and encourages moving to Floridia and such with no state tax.

I'm agreed on you only get what you pay.
Want more?
Have a fucking act of god like New York or Texas.
Fires in cali exluded as those are standard practice.
Please do not build in the natural open air incinerators

>make google and bing and amazon actually fucking compete with the little guys they fear most ?


The NN rule change does literally nothing to help with this. You are retarded.

The internet didn't exist before net neutrality.

It existed before the ISPs started fucking about and before the 2015 Title 2 reclassification to ENFORCE net neutrality but it has never existed before the concept of net neutrality dictated how the internet worked. Never.

>What would your honest opinion about the repeal of Net Neutrality

All for it. The government has no business with its hands on business.

Let market forces decide.

That hasn't been the status quo since the 30s, to recreate the situation that you are talking about all the current ISPs would have to be liquidated and these two things (at bare minimum) would have to be repealed

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Act_of_1934

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996

>The government has no business with its hands on business

Tell that to countries with fully privatized water.

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>worthless hypothetical
It's as you imagine: I would be opposed to all of that because I'm a big idiot. I'm a misogynistic, ignorant, Drumpf-supporting hypocrite. I only support these policies because they occurred during the Trump presidency. Politics are a team sport. You've exposed me.

She wouldn't...nuff said.

None of those would have happened.

>They would not have happened

Get your head out your ass Kraut

It's not net neutrality just because you call it net neutrality.

I would literally chose a litany of faults to point to without giving her a second of praise even though I agree with those decisions.

>advocacy for, NN
There wass never any advocacy for NN. There was only public outcry against getting fucked over.
The FCC was forced to create it from Verizon's constant suing trying to be able to fuck over their consumers.
FCC only created net neutrality because they were forced to have a central set of rules to protect the consumer from bullshit.
If it wasn't for the constant lawsuits it would still be a case by case basis thing now that its repealed the FCC officially has no path to actually protect the consumer anymore once it was put into writing and then officially repealed.
>Upper level government would have an interest in it from a self-interested standpoint and from the standpoint of national interest. From a self interested perspective, it would empower the federal government's overreach in local communities in nullifying lower-level local laws.
From a self interested perspective they're going to get even fatter stacks of cash from the huge monopolies to not do anything.
>Ridding the country of these local monopoly/zoning laws would obviously enable newcomers' entry to these previously closed markets, sparking competition which itself would necessitate the need to offer "better" services than the competitor, ushering in improvements in areas where the monopolist would have previously had zero incentive to do so.
Which is why the monopolies will toss every dollar they can at preventing this just like they did to turning over net neutrality.
>corporation tosses money at taking down neutrality
Yep, it needs to go down.
>when it comes to those regulations that prevent competition
It'll totally happen you guys. No way anything will prevent it from happening.
Not like monopolies that took down neutrality will prevent this from taking off.

I mean its been 5 days and nothing has happened so far. Maybe this chimpout wasn't as bad as people thought it was going to be?

I might actually start to like the fat ugly old drunk bull dyke criminal if she did those things.

It still needs to go through the courts before its officially gone.
ISPs are waiting for it to be fully and completely settled matter before they start slowing shit down and letting the progressives in their diversity employ to censor Sup Forums and other sites.

Most supporters of NN seem to be NEET children who play video games all day.

A good thing
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This

She would have never done any of those, but I'd think more highly of her had she done them.

Now I need to go wash my brain out with soap or something, for thinking of a situation where I'd of actually had a positive thought about her. Thanks German bro.

>progressives.
That's another thing you idiots aren't thinking about.
Do you idiots honestly think with how they've slithered their way into every single other corporation they won't force their way into isp's now that they have the power to prevent the evil nazis from posting on their little "hate speech" sites on the internet?
I can see the calls for comcast being a racist organization unless they do something and the google level environment springing up within it.

>moments before this thread was made.

You dumb fucks, an ISP is like the natural gas utility running lines outside my house. The more competition you promote and the less market restriction, the better and cheaper the service to my house.

You dumb fucks. NN is typical statist fuckery, designed to destroy competition and steal more of my money, for worse service. You dumb fucks.