It seems Nanoha did not befriend her daughter completely

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Her daughter sure did destroy the entire franchise completely, though.

Good to know she's stronger than Nanoha now

Yeah, it's great that the main character and progenitor of the entire series is being downplayed and made irrelevant and useless.

How is this shocking again? Vivio is one of the strongest characters in Mid-Childa's history.

>MC must be the strongest ever and always win

Fuck off to Mahouka.

Timeskip ruined the entire franchise

>MC must be turned into a drooling retard and her franchise pissed on and stolen

A certain poster is going to have a fucking tantrum when he sees this.

But Nanoha normally is in nerfed mode, she cant use all his power.

Same thing. The timeskip brought us Vivio, after all.

>implying Nanoha wasn't holding back

She didn't want to utterly btfo her precious daughter

Not to mention the writer has her back, so that Vivio can beat up Nanoha all she wants with nothing to stop her because fuck Nanoha lmao.

Trash.

That would allow Nanoha to keep some of her dignity and we can't have that.

>BTFO'd Miura
>BTFO'd Rinne
>BTFO'd Einhart
>BTFO'd Nanoha

Is there anyone that can defeat, let alone touch Vivio?

Any character pre-StrikerS pre-being fucked over by Tsuzuki because who cares about good characters these days.

What's the problem? Nanoha was using limiters.

>she was holding back

It's happening again?

I want to impregnate Nanoha.

>loli God Emperor is strong as fuck

Whoa.

HAIL.

I don't understand why they have to shit on Nanoha this hard.

You hate Nanoha, I see that, everyone can see that. So what's the fucking purpose of this? Just to rub it in some more that the person in charge of the franchise actually hates it?

>hail the franchise killer
Of course you'd say that.

Higher quality for more details on Nanoha's bruised face!

>half the replies ITT are from "that" muh franchise killing autist

Is there any Nanoha thread he won't sperg?

Your time is gone. Times have changed. The Nanoha you once cherished will never return and in its place we have a glorious new series and a far better main character. Long may she reign.

>this
>Nanoha thread
This is an anti-Nanoha thread. Look at that OP and the people celebrating this.

We've been through this. Ignore and report.

>and in its place we have a glorious new series and a far better main character.
I do wonder what you're talking about. Innocent? But the MC of that is still Nanoha.

Those breasts are out of control

Except limiters are on her. She can't remove them unless it's an emergency or without Hayate's release.

What did she mean by this?

You say that like they'll acknowledge it.

Why is everyone shitting on Nanoha?
Someone give me a quick rundown

You have no proof or precedence to say they won't. Do you even read and watch the series? Nanoha is bound by military protocols and that's how it was when original team, StrikerS team, and Vivid team had their 3 way battle.

>Why is everyone shitting on Nanoha?
I'm the only person in the thread that likes Nanoha.

Where? The only shitposts against Nanoha is by the retarded troll shitposting ironically and sarcastically.

But why?
I like Nanoha, but I haven't kept up with the series in years. Did the new series ruin her character or something?

You keep saying that like they'll acknowledge it.

Why would they build up to Vivio killing Nanoha at last if they are going to blow it with a simple "i w-wasn't trying hard enough!!"

Hate for adult Nanoha isn't new or that strange since StrikerS?

>Did the new series ruin her character or something?
When was the last time you checked up on anything Nanoha related? 2006?

They ruined Nanoha's character, they took away her franchise and gave it to some shit kids, sucked all the life and fun out of it and now they're getting rid of her dignity for good measure.

>killing Nanoha
Okay, you're that troll. Don't bother, I'm not going to feed you.

It was just a manner of speech, you idiot. I know she's not dead.

The character, at least. Franchise's fucked.

I could've pointed that out sooner, user.

There is something wrong with your education method if your daughter grows up wanting to punch you.

If Nanoha was written like a good parent, people might like her and might want to see more of her. So it wasn't in the cards.

>You keep saying that like they'll acknowledge it.
They confirmed in Vivid the adults are still under limiters.

Fate is the good parent, if she stayed more at home Vivio wouldn't be punching her other mother like that.

Is this porn the artstyle seems a bit different from the usual artists but those tities look like doujin fuel to me

>They confirmed in Vivid the adults are still under limiters.
Oh good, I thought there was a purpose to denigrating Nanoha further. Now I can see it was just to denigrate Nanoha further.

>Fate is the good parent
Neither is the good parent.

Why the fuck is anyone a parent to begin with? What kind of knucklehead greenlights this kind of shit? What was so wrong with the franchise at the time of A's that they had to spit and shit on it until it was twisted into this garbage? Seriously.

Even her students want to punch her desu

The artist normally does draw porn, and the manga at least featured uncensored nipples.

And even her wife hits her.

Kris is so sexy.

I fail to see the problem.

I can't wait for Movie 4th to be cancelled due to some coincidence or whatever (I don't think Tsuzuki will go clean and tell everyone how much he hates Nanoha) and all the extra money gets funneled into more Vivid garbage.

Wouldn't we need a Movie 3rd first?

>what is Reflection

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I guess talking about the chapter will be impossible as usual.

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>Vivio is shit in her own manga they said
where is your heathen God now

user, there was never any God. How do you think Vivid exists?

>Words are unneeded. I will talk with only my fist
This is not what I expected from a magical girl series. I'm not complaining, though.

I bet you think you're very funny.

Here, feast your eyes.
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It finally happened, Cyclone made so many Nanoha doujins that its starting to influence the actual series.

Vivio is Mama's daughter after all.

>This is not what I expected from a magical girl series.
Because that's not what this is anymore. Now it's just an insult.

Its a mixed martial arts series that happens to have magic now.,