Despite pretending otherwise, why is US foreign policy so amoral?

Why doesn't Trump care about what is happening in my native Honduras?

The incumbent President ran for reelection despite this being explicitly prohibited by the constitution. Then his party made one of the most scoundrel frauds ever, made possible because they have turned the country into essentially a one-party state, and he was recently declared winner. This has been met with a lot of resistance from the population, and the government have been using deadly force to suppress the protests. So far, about 18 people have been murdered by the military and police.

How is this possible? How did we become so fucked? Long story, the incumbent has the full support of the US. The current government came to power thanks to coup orchestrated Hillary Clinton's State Department back in 2009.

Then, the coup was done in order to debilitate Chavez' block. Now, that is also the catch; sadly the party that rightfully won the election is the party that was formed in opposition to the coup, and would be a pro-Venezuela government.

That last fact obviously sucks, but what the heck? We supposedly live in a democracy. Hondurans of good judgement want the election result respected despite how much we may hate Maduro. The US should own up to their ideals of democracy and liberty, and don't get behind any criminal just to play their worldwide chess. This people are literally the scum of the earth:

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The brother of the incumbent is a drug dealer, as was the son of the previous President, also from his party (he was arrested for being so insightcrime.org/news/brief/son-of-honduras-ex-president-arrested-for-drug-trafficking/).

They stole millions of dollars from the country's social security, which remains effectively broke to this day.

The 2nd vice-president of the parliament, also from the same party, ran a company which was awarded contracts with public health to sell pills and they were later discovered to be all placebos made of flour.

The husband of the 1st vice-president of the parliament, also from the same party, runs a company who got an environmental activist killed because of her leadership in the opposition of projects which require the displacement of people and the destruction of the environment.

These are just some of the crimes against humanity that these "people" have committed. They remain in power thanks to their political clientism (basically handing out money and jobs to their loyal servants), and their support from the US. Even the OAS, who is usually just spokesmen for the US, have admitted the elections were rigged and recommended for them to be repeated, but the US's State Department remains silent.

Shame on America and shame on Trump for allowing this to happen. Why can't you just GTFO of our countries?

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Thanks for posting with a meme flag so everyone knows that your opinion is worthless

>Women get vote in west
>women become half the electorate
>women vote for welfare state
>welfare sate is bigger government
>bigger government requires more taxes
>welfare state incentives single mothers
>government becomes surrogate fathers
>single mothers raise niggers
>niggers cause more crimes
>niggers create more single mothers
>bigger government creates mandatory gibs spending
>women will never vote away welfare state
>every solution to problems caused by welfare state = more welfare state
>families destroyed and birth rates plummet
>immigration to replace births
>men loose incentive to support system
>social collapse

I am in Belgium so, same difference...
yeah, right now in Honduras our problems are a little bit more primal than that, as welfare is pretty much non-existent but also are incentives for entrepreneurship as our government does not provide a safe and stable environment.

Come on Sup Forums this is important

Look man, this is the first I have heard of your country's problem. The Big T is a little busy at the moment.

But seriously, maybe you nailed it. Venezuela has destroyed itself. It will take generations to fix what has taken 20 years to destroy after things get turned around - and who knows when that will be. Maybe the US is scared that will happen to you too.

it's based on greed and control?

> US should iwb up to its ideals of democracy....
Lol

They stole millions of dollars from the country's social security, which remains effectively broke to this day
they did that in chile too.

you must understand. you are nothing to them. all the ideals they yammer on about are for the idiots.
this is a country with a child like people with a childish ideology where the rich can buy a politician to do what is in their own self interest regardless of the consequences to the rest of their people or the rest of the people on this planet.

They stole millions of dollars from the country's social security, which remains effectively broke to this day

they're are basically brutalizing and ripping off the 3rd world because no one can stop them and their moronic population actually see themselves as the "good guys"

your best hope is for a world war where you survive and the totalitarian war criminals are hanged in a nuremberg like trial

Sadly my people are quite complacent to dictatorial rule. It's the legacy of colonialism and then US imperialism. We were very effectively indoctrinated during the Cold War to just shut up and stare down. Hope we can still protesting and something changes before people get tired and disinterested. I just wonder how far are the US are willing to go in their support for the ruling party. The military in my country pretty much answer directly to the US Embassy.

watch they'll screw over their own people sometime later today and the righteous monkeys will cheer for their own ass rape

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> Muh Colonialism
> Muh US Imperialism
You fucking Spics are so retarded that I wish you were all ethnic cleansed by Europeans and your country taken over by them.

I know what you mean. Just GTFO of our countries first, then if we fail you can exterminate us, but so far we've always been in the sphere of greater powers deciding our destiny. More recently, the drug empire, which the US only halfheartedly really fights

not latino but yeah we know

>Honduras

Do you have oil? No? Then fuck off.

Hondoras is one of the most violent countries in the world. If i was president i'd ban all immigration from your country

it's libertarianism gone wild.
remember all those kids showing up on the us boarder?
parents were trying to send their kids to the us because they don't think they'll survive all that freedom

>libertarianism
any ideology will work under good white people.I don't want any sort of it with a bunch of muddy spics

Thankfully we don't have any, we'd probably be in a worse position with you around if we did

best americans are experimenting on honduras because they don't do social engineering at home

When did you ever think our foreign policy was good? Sure we might have 'peace' in mind or the interest of America and her corporations but we don't really do much for our friends. Is there a reason why we might have supported this person?We supported Pinochet because Allende was getting tanks and pledged himself to the USSR.

The fruit companies led the way in 1903, we destabilized you in the 80's because communism, and probably now because of 'leftism' and some foreign non-US support for the other guy. Couple that with a decreased State Department/FBI/CIA and a policy of America first think about the negatives never started by Bill Clinton and we were bound to fuck you over.

Wish we accepted you guys into the Union when you asked in 1860.

>It's the legacy of colonialism and then US imperialism.
no, it's how lowly spics are by nature, like dogs

Why are you here?

what makes you think americunts care about you?

Because I love it in Flanders

That was for

Because the US has already fucked around so much in South America that we just dont care anymore. Countries only care about their Interests and right now you aren't very high on their list.

Well you care enough to undermine the will of our people

We must pull it together, I know. Just stop making it so hard on us, will ya?

Well, I think the American responses in this thread conform to the general trend -- Americans don't care about anything but themselves. Those words about freedom and democracy are smoke and mirrors to improve their PR.

i'm not a burger.

"Just stop making it so hard on us, will ya?"
what makes you think burgers are civilized?

We used to and our interests still can help others, but we are not the benevolent Empire we used to be.

hah, nice
How did you even end up here, I have somwhat the idea Central and South American immigration to Belgium is increasing.
Are there any kinds of programs? It just seems weird they end up here of all places.

I don't think you've ever been
Sucks how that antagonism between the US and Russia/China is pretty much the cancerous root of all recent memory evils

when was the US ever benevolent?

>Why doesnt the US solve other countries problems?

When we intervene everyone bitches. When we don't everyone whines.

What about solving your own fucking problems instead of expecting someone else to do it for you? Just because we created a model nation doesn't mean we are contracted to do the same for the world.

not really. the US will stop at nothing for world domination. today it's russia/china, tomorrow it's the EU, who knows. there will always be a perpetual enemy for them to rally behind, whether it's communism, nazis, etc

do people think you're a Muslim even though you're a spic?

Not really, Belgium is not really famous in Honduras. I just read a lot about this country in the Internet, I found the quirkiness and weirdness very charming and decided to come here for a while. I am kind of a "hipster" myself (not on purpose), I am always making choices like this.

I didn't make a mistake though, I love this place so far. Lots of art and history everywhere, beautiful cities and towns and the people are very helpful and likable.

Have you read his post at all? His whole point is that America orchestrated the coup in Honduras. He wants US to stop causing those problems.

>When we don't everyone whines.

when?

I have only heard that from another "spic" who I met here. He said before talking to me he always assumed I was a middle eastern. Then again, so did I about him. I guess we "spics" are not that different physically from middle easterns.

This If you didn't have this guy's back, it would be easier for my countrymen to do justice. Our police did try to go on strike recently, but they were quickly reprimanded by the military.

Most muslims are Turk/Morrocan, who don't really look like spics. Even then, in other cases it"s not that hard to distinguish them correctly.

so you're effectively a military dictatorship?

I think some light skinned Turks and us mestizos can blend appearance wise. Their culture is kinda weird to us though, specially since they're usually not very good with English and they almost always completely it ditch when another middle eastern joins the group, at least the ones that I know.

Basically.

The US didn't vote in corrupt socialists, Hondurans did.

The US didn't try to rewrite their nations constitution in a way that caused a crisis and military action which ousted him, Manuel Zelaya did.

The idea every third world's inability to govern is our fault is bullshit, time and time again when left to their own devices they naturally do this, and time and time again their citizens blame the US and ask for aid in one form or another.

How about you find a way to fix your nation and stop blaming the US for everything? Not every coup is our fault, not every dirt poor nation our duty to help govern, not every catastrophe in those nations our fault or obligation to help.

ok, but this one is. why can't the US just mind its own damn business? it's not your right to dictate who one should and shouldn't vote for in their OWN countries

i'd say try to make your plight more well known. like the rohinga crisis. the left in western countries will get behind you. the reason you're in the situation you're in is because you left the propagandists dictate the narrative so most people don't know your plight

>The US didn't try to rewrite their nations constitution in a way that caused a crisis and military action which ousted him, Manuel Zelaya did.
At least he tried to carry out a plebiscite to ask the population if they agreed for the modification of the constitution so presidential reelection could be made lawful. The vermin we have in power, who was back then one of the ardent defenders of the coup in order to "defend the constitution", didn't even bother, he's just ran for reelection willy-nilly.

Not really answering to your post, just pointing that out.

well, there's obviously something uncle sam wants from you.

Just because they claim it is doesn't mean it is.

Zelaya tried to do an unconstitutional act, the military ousted him and their own congress voted him out after he was booted to Costa Rica. So the US is responsible for every vote that kicked him out? Or for his unconstitutional actions reminiscent of modern day Venezuela, which he tried to emulate as Chavez was at the time?

Maybe his ousting prevented Venezuela 2.0, either way saying it's just us when third world nations do this ALL THE TIME is moving the problems to a boogie man that probably only swayed the results rather than directly created the situation as a whole.

I wouldn't mind a policy of less intervention, but I doubt that the levels of sway the US has done as of late is directly responsible for these things when most of their government and their electorate are the ones making these decisions that create these national melt downs.

It's like Venezuelans using the US as the boogie woogie that created their issues when it was their own stupid faults. We didn't elect their socialist, we didn't create their constitutional crisis, they did.

Yeah he created his own problems and the electorate created its own shit candidates after him. Blaming the US is retarded when Honduran's have already shown their incompetency electing a pro Chavez candidate. The murder rates and general level of inability to craft a nation like the one you ran away to shows the people's general inability to civilly run a nation like the ones you wish to emulate. Not our fault, not our problem, we are not the great cause to everyone's failures.

see

see >Not our fault, not our problem
that's why you're the nigger of world powers

Thanks, yes, that's what we should try to do

Maybe just for this to continue? Not that I am saying that a new President would fix this, much less one in bed with Venezuela. But, just how ingrained with drug traffic are US politics? We all know CIA has done it to finance black ops. I wouldn't be surprised if some US politicians are into it, but just how many of them there would have to be in order to influence foreign policy? The incumbent's party has certainly created a cozy environment for this during the past eight years since the coup. It is the reason for the world record in homicides.

yeah, i dunno. you have to look beyond the smoke and mirrors. figure out what it is, and it will help you come up with a strategy to counter it. sorry i can't help more, i know almost nothing about south american politics. you guys need to stand up for yourself more

>I claim it's the US's fault therefore it is
Surely it isn't just third world nations being unable to properly govern as they have done so time and time and time again. We're probably responsible for them being murder capital of the planet to, damn US just controlling the entire nation's populace to bring them to fail, because it in no way be their fault.

Are you from the high class of Honduras?, are you arab?, mostly arabs are rich in Honduras

translation: we dindu nuffin

No and no. I was lucky to have good parents though.

>why doesn't the most powerful man in the world care about my tiny shithole country
The fuck?