The public can more readily conceptualize the existence of child trafficking rings than ritual abuse, because adult sex-trafficking rings are already recognized to exist. In contrast, the ritual abuse and killing of children is much more difficult for the public to conceptualize, due to its existence outside known cultural parameters. People have no real-world framework in which to place this activity. The horrific nature of ritual abuse makes the public willing to ignore it in the hopes that it does not exist, and simultaneously those who point out evidence for its existence become an easy target for media ridicule.
It is this natural emotional resistance combined with media shaming that allows perpetrators to continue the criminal abuse of children, adults, animals, etc. If there is the slightest possibility that this abuse does take place, then we have a responsibility to investigate it and bring it to light. There is no excuse for allowing this abuse to continue.
Basically, Gurdjieff was the inspiration for Maria Abramovic's method, which we saw manifest last year as spiritcooking. I'm going to dig into this a bit more here and see if any other anons can add to what's already in these posts, it's a lot if information.
So do you suck cock often or only when you're in the mood?
Levi Reyes
General Gurdjieff info, connections to stuff.
from article:
"Gurdjieff's methods are linked to many aspects of ritual abuse - including topics I've previously written about - for example Findhorn and Esalen. I wrote about those campuses specifically in relation to the ongoing investigation of RA user's experience.
Gurdjieff is directly linked to Marina Abramovic, as well as Bartlesville. His 'Fourth Way' is intimately tied to the development of Abramovic's 'Method' and her 'spirit cooking' via Abramovic's repeated description of Gurdjieff as her spiritual "father." The common denominator between Abramovic's Method and Gurdjieff's Fourth Way is the use of the body, body movement, and physical experience as a medium for "spiritual development" /mental and emotional change and altered states.
Gurdjieff's 'Fourth Way' can accurately be described as a literal predecessor to Abramovic's sprit cooking and ritualistic, bloody practices. Many individuals tied to Gurdjieff (Idries Sha, John G Bennet) are also linked to Tavistock and intelligence agencies in both the UK and the US.
Images of Gurdjieff's "movements" are depicted below. They are important because Gurdjieff's use of the body as a medium of experience here is intimately comparable with Abramovic's use of the body as medium.
Abramovic directly described this in press interviews, which mirror Gurdjieff's work almost exactly."
Brayden Edwards
More from the article:
"Gurdjieff's Fourth Way was primarily designed to shock his followers out of their normal state of consciousness which he likened to sleep. This is identical to the description of Abramovic's Method. What this illustrates is the process of intentionally inducing traumatic shock in viewers in order to take advantage of the impressionable, vulnerable state it creates.
"In the Fourth Way teaching, shocks are necessary for the development of man. They also play an important role in Fourth Way cosmology."
The concept of body-as-medium is a critical aspect of ritual abuse. The mind is not accessed directly. Instead, the deeper subconscious is targeted. This bodily experience ultimately controls the formation of the mind without conscious knowledge of the individual affected, especially in childhood.
As Skinner described in terms of operant conditioning, the strongest control is gained when the deeper subconscious is accessed. This emotional experience lives in the body and it is in the body that memory can be imprinted. Any PTSD survivor will understand the physical aspect of being triggered. It is not a purely mental or even emotional experience, but a physical one. Even those who have experienced a bad break up will understand the physical aspect of strong emotions.
Through the body, the strongest aspect of imprinting takes place, and it is through the body that an experience of non-thinking can occur. This connection to non-thinking or the deep subconscious is not particularly negative. Horse riding, surfing, running, meditation and other practices can similarly bring one to this state, but ritual abuse uses this tool for a traumatic purpose."
Hudson Smith
It's the exact opposite. People prefer to think that sexual abuse of children is so far out of cultural normality that they have to create these ludicrous conspiracies of witches and Satanism to reassure themselves that the abusers are somehow evil or different or motivated by desires inexplicable to them because the alternative is to accept that normal people just like them fuck kids.
Liam Campbell
So basically, Gurdjieff's method was all about shock & ritualized physical movement, and Abramovic developed her method based on that.
Levi Myers
All the amerimutts here are the same person. OP is samefagging. Just sage and move on.
Carter King
Notice I never, and the articles never bring up satanism. The entire point of these articles is to show what ritual abuse looks like --- which is NOT the typical huhuhhmuhshatanism
Henry Reyes
If you don't want to understand that ritual abuse is real, fine. But it is real, and I wish people understood that it actually has nothing to do with satanism.
Daniel Anderson
She is a idiot. Her brother is very knowledgeable and I think deserving of respect.
Evan Baker
Gurdjieff's work as a spy is also mentioned by Flowers on page 155. This is important because it shows the degree of intimacy that exists between the occult and intelligence activities. Such overlap can be used to explain the mix of ritual and "MKULTRA" type experiences in some survivors of such abuses. Such blurring is also embodied in the person of Michael Aquino, a high ranking military psy-ops agent and a dedicated occultist who was accused of ritually abusing children at the Presidio military facility.
It also shows her collaboration with a cult-like figure known as "John of God." Based in Brazil, John of God is famous as a spirit-healer and as a performer of "psychic surgeries." The following picture shows Abramovic and John of God as he performs a 'surgery' on a woman's eye. So once again a spiritual/mental/emotional change is (allegedly) being provoked through the violent interference with the body of the subject. (Note that both Abramovic and John of God are clothed in white, which seems to be a theme when blood is involved.)
The horrific 'psychic surgeries' performed by John of God have been called out as a scam many times. This hasn't prevented establishment media from fawning over him. However, the critical point on his work - once again, we see what is supposed to be a "spiritual surgery" being performed on the body by cutting it open, piercing it with medical instruments, or cutting eyes. So once again the absolute central point for this type of ritualistic practice is the body and the bodily experience is supposed to have some spiritual effect.
In discussion of PTSD, some have said that pain, memory, and emotion lives in the body. In this view, it makes perfect sense as to why John of God would cut bodies of his cult members. This is yet another example of the body-as-medium for direct change/"spiritual" experience. These shocking practices are not only bloody for the sake of spectacle but are an example of how the nuts-and-bolts of ritual abuse works, as are Gurdjieff's movements and Abramovic's Method.
John of God's concerning practices are also important because the fact that so many people allow him to perform these bloody surgeries on them without anesthetic and actually PAY for the procedure.
Eli Morgan
Additional methods of accessing the self via physicality include sensory deprivation through blindfolding, which is seen in Abramovic's work through her institute. Blindfolding performed by Abramovic and her cohorts like Hermann Nitsch are extremely important because these acts are directly comparable to the sensory deprivation documented to have occurred during the officially confirmed MKULTRA experiments performed by the monstrous Ewen Cameron, and even under associates of Esalen such as John Lilly.
Sensory deprivation is a specific technique developed by the CIA, as discussed in this article which states in part:
"Hebb noted that four of the students in his study “remarked spontaneously that being in the apparatus was a form of torture.” In the last interview he gave before his death, he said, “It was clear when we gave our report to the Defense Board that we were describing formidable interrogation techniques.”
John C. Lilly developed flotation tanks. Lilly's involvement with the MKULTRA program is debated, but he was definitely active at locations including Esalen, NIMH, and others.
Lilly's experiments with drugs like Ketamine during sensory deprivation were the basis for the film "Altered States." Rolling Stone also references Lilly as an important influence on the TV show 'Stranger Things,' which depicts a fictionalized and idealized version of the MKULTRA program.
Some press has explicitly noted that the sensory deprivation shown in Stranger Things is "not far off from reality."
Easton White
How does this guy claim to get his info?
Evan Young
The fourth way is the direct path of the Bodhisattva which relies on conscience as it's enabling factor. The 'sly man' uses it to awaken and develop (clothe) the vital, emotional, and mental bodies of his being, transforming them from 'lunar'/temporal/unconscious to 'solar'/permanent/conscious, as he transcends the three mechanical 'brains'/vehicles... intellectual, feeling and motor/instinctual.. Gurdjieff admitted his dance postures were simply poses to immitate the (Tibetan?) alphabet. But his insight into human nature were valid and important. Abramovic is not even in Gurdjieff's league.. much closer to Crowley than Gurdjieff who in spite of the parade of fools that spun off from him, was in fact, a REAL teacher..
Charles Perry
Why weren't you aborted We support your late term abortion Go ahead, livestream it for attention, be a star Cut into your wrist now
Jayden Thomas
fuckoff Gurdjieff
Gurdjieff had kids with half a dozen students and emotionally destroyed people countless times. He was an espionage agent and a scammer who grifted off his easily manipulated, intellectually narcissistic upper middle class idiots who had more time and money on their hands than anything else.
Ethan Nguyen
Salon called sensory deprivation the "CIA's favorite type of torture." This is sensical due to the lack of physical injuries sensory deprivation leaves, but the rapidity with which it achieves strong results. It constitutes a method of inducing extreme trauma and even psychosis, without physical evidence of injury, on anyone from a terrorist or on a child. Psychotic breaks that result can be used to create multiple personality disorder. Salon described the issue: salon.com/2007/06/07/sensory_deprivation/
Sensory deprivation, as CIA research and other agency interrogation materials demonstrate, is a remarkably simple concept. It can be inflicted by immobilizing individuals in small, soundproof rooms and fitting them with blacked-out goggles and earmuffs. "The first thing that happens is extraordinary hallucinations akin to mescaline," explained McCoy. "I mean extreme hallucinations" of sight and sound. It is followed, in some cases within just two days, by what McCoy called a "breakdown akin to psychosis."
"It is therefore as insidious as some forms of obviously abusive coercion that are likely to be forbidden under the new CIA rules, like waterboarding, the technique of strapping a subject to a board with his feet raised and pouring water on his face to produce a sensation of imminent death. Legally, however, sensory deprivation is more nebulous than physical abuse, and that is what worries human rights advocates."
Dylan Gutierrez
Gurdjieff also thought the moon ate people's souls. Anyone, and I mean anyone, Jesus included, who says "you will only reach enlightenment/heaven/whatever through me and only my teachings" is a scam artist and a cult leader. I don't care if you are Jesus, Buddha, Charles Manson or L Ron Hubbard.
Ayden Gutierrez
Jesus...
She is just an artist, she doesn’t have to do with pizzagate.
Just because her art is sometimes hard does not mean she’s a pedo.
You are acting like old people who assume all rock to bd “satanic”
Nicholas Gray
Notice Satanic is brought up 100% of the time by shills but not by me or the articles here. Interesting.
It's almost like you want to put ritual abuse into the satanist box so you can conveniently dismiss the entire subject. Sorry. No.
1) Abramovic and the Wikileaks Spirit Cooking email was one of the things that started pizzagate. Alefantis and etc was separate, as was the Silsby bit re: Haiti. All of these things fall under the umbrella of pizzagate.
You know boys, youre actually pretty spot on with all this shit, the thing is tho. You cant do anything against it and never will. They have full control over the world except maybe 2-3 places worldwide. The game, for us that is, is lost. We can only wait for the end of it all.
This is noteworthy in that it is not the first time LSD research was performed in state-funded experiments on large mammals. Louis Joylon West killed a bull elephant after giving it large doses of LSD in a government sponsored experiment.
There are many other examples of the use of sensory deprivation related to state interests as well as "alternative healing" groups like Esalen. The significant issue for the purpose of this article is to point out the use of physical stimuli or lack thereof to profoundly effect the psyche. Sensory deprivation tanks also remind this author of the Skinner's box, which in my opinion would mean that the effect of flashing lights or sounds on the subject would be heightened. (Especially if drugs or electrocution are also used)
In this video, the creation of sensory deprivation tanks discusses both the Esalen Institute and Gurdjieff: youtube.com/watch?v=N9ju1RljBjY
Mason Hughes
But we can talk about what's happening right now. Hence this thread. Ritual abuse is real. And so were the MKULTRA type programs. The interesting thing about Gurdjieff is that he shows how intelligence work and the esoteric have always been conjoined. MKULTRA doesn't exist without ritual abuse, and ritual abuse is always used by intelligence agencies.
Mason Bennett
In addition to work at Esalen, Lilly worked at NIMH, and was reportedly visited by Alduous and Julian Huxley. Lilly worked under the direction of Gregory Bateson, a figure I have previously discussed in posts focusing on Esalen.
Bateson was a Cyberneticist, and was director of one of Lilly's experiments at NIMH. As Sharpedge42 points out, Cybernetics has been cited in intelligence agency efforts to control the development of children's minds. Warren Commission documents show that former CIA Director Richard Helms stated:
"Cybernetics can be used in "molding of a child's character, the inculcation of knowledge and techniques , the amassing of experience, the establishment of social behavior patterns...all functions which can be summarized as 'control' of the growth process of the individual."
The Washington Post describes Lilly's work for the Air Force, and that he underwent psychoanalysis by one of Freud's acolytes. His work regarding the brain is particularly interesting:
"During the war he did research for the Air Force on the physiology of high-altitude flying. Afterwards, he did original work on brain electrophysiology, developing in the process the "bavatron", a device for recording electrical activity over large areas of the brain's surface and projecting it onto a screen. "
The Washington Post also described Lilly's discoveries regarding sensory deprivation:
**"With time he discovered that he could control and "program" his mental functioning as well as observe it. Later he would conclude that such self-programming, could alter and shape our experience of the world." **
Lilly also knew Oscar Ichazo, the Chilean who created the mystical school Arica - which is also apparently based to some extent on Gurdjieff's Fourth Way teachings, describing human beings as controlled by automatic/mechanistic behavior patterns.
Jesuit priests eventually adopted Ichazo's version of the Enneagram for use in Christian spirituality. The use of Enneagrams by Oscar Ichazo forms an additional bridge between the esoteric 'left hand path' teachings of Gurdjieff and a military-tied scientist studying brain activity and sensory deprivation in MKULTRA style projects. Such connections provide an example of the influence occultists have had not only on the study of the human mind but also the techniques which are used to fragment it.
Ichazo's Arica school is known as a variation of the Human Potential Movement. I have previously hypothesized was a euphemism for the study of mind control through the induction of multiple personality disorder and dissociation. This is particularly interesting because it links a possible MKULTRA group in California with the variety of ancient indigenous practices that I discuss in previous articles. These traditions center on techniques of inducing altered bodily states that result in possession - an ancient description of multiple personality disorder or extreme dissociation. Ichazo also "insisted on secrecy."
Ichazo's acolyte Claudio Naranjo was also a member of Gestalt groups centered in the Human Potential movement. Naranjo apparently became an "apprentice of Fritz Perls and part of the early Gestalt Therapy community, where he began conducting workshops at Esalen Institute as a visiting associate. He eventually became one of Perls' three successors, along with Jack Downing and Robert Hall." He is described as a "a key figure at Esalen."
Jaxson Phillips
Really? That mail is "literally nothing" though. She's just a hipster. If this email is really of the things that started pizzagate, then pizzagate is a load of bull.
Just because some art is freaky looking does not mean it is satanic or that it is doing harm to anyone. Some art is just more daring, less obvious. A bit try-hard and pretentious at times, also.
If you think Maria Ibrahimovic is some satanist because of her art, please DO NOT look into Hermann Nitsch's work.
But oh well, I guess you'll prefer to continue with your moral panic.
Oliver Wright
Further, Naranjo was "a consultant for the Education Policy Research Center, created by Willis Harman at Stanford Research Institute." The Stanford Research Institute is notorious for its involvement in MKULTRA type programs, much like its British cousin, the Tavistock Institute.
Willis Harman: " taught for several years at the University of Florida before joining the Stanford faculty in 1952.[2] He eventually left Stanford to become a senior social scientist at SRI International where he initiated a futures research program, exploring the national and global future. In this capacity he worked on long-term strategic planning and policy analysis for an assortment of corporations, government agencies, and international organizations.[4] He then served as president of the Institute of Noetic Sciences from 1975 until his death in 1997."
The Institute of Noetic Sciences researches parapsychology, most likely in tandem with government interest in the subject as described by MKULTRA nad ritual abuse survivors. The group was co-founded by Astronaut Edgar Mitchell. The Institute's studies in parapsychology include interest in yoga and other bodily methods of accessing the subconscious/ alleged psychic abilities.
"The Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) is an American non-profit parapsychological[1] research institute. It was co-founded in 1973 by former astronaut Edgar Mitchell,[2][3][4] along with investor Paul N. Temple,[5][dead link] and others interested in purported paranormal phenomena,[1] in order to encourage and conduct research on noetic theory and human potentials.[6][7]"
The institute conducts research on such topics such as spontaneous remission,[8][9] meditation,[8] consciousness, alternative healing practices, consciousness-based healthcare, spirituality, human potential, psychic abilities, psychokinesis[9] and survival of consciousness after bodily death.[10][11] "
Mason Lopez
Oh wait, you are already panicking about Hermann Nitsch also lmao
Liam Ramirez
Here you are bringing up satanic again all by your poor little lonesome self. Actually she has much more in common with Gurdjieff and South American shamanism.
I'm not panicking. I'm comparing. Also since both Abramovic and Nitsch refer to their work as spiritual acts, there's nothing that has to be made up here at all. It is exactly what it is, nothing more or less.
Jack Ortiz
Essentially, if anything, Abramovic is completely unoriginal. But yes. Ritual abuse is real.
Eli Peterson
Like rituals involving "possession" in indigenous cultures and occult practice, sensory deprivation and some drugs have been reputed to result in an experience of contact with foreign entities. John Lilly specifically believed that he had "come into contact with extraterrestrials" through the use of drugs and the sensory deprivation tank he developed.
It is important to note in that it gives some idea as to the worldview of those who engage in these practices, as well as echoing the belief from ancient ritual practices that contact is made with outside entities. This belief can possibly be understood as an explanation for extreme dissociation.
One individual who has experienced sensory deprivation in a non-traumatic sense wrote:
"And at least for me, what I experienced wasn’t 'psychedelic' at all, far from a mental experience, what I discovered was a drop into a deeply physical, embodied state; once this had happened, the boundaries of the body, tank and space itself just seemed to fall away. Thereafter I seemed to enter into a primal infinity.."
This point emphasizes the exact focus of this article: the centrality of the body as a medium of 'spiritual experience' or the door to extreme dissociative states and one of the most important tools for mind control.
This point may seem obvious to some, but the concept of mind control as understood by the public is usually focused on manipulating mental processes or emotional states that the body as a primary site for ritual/ritual abuse and mind control experimentation is sorely misunderstood and largely ignored.
Brayden Jackson
Abramovic's connection to Hermann Nitsch also provides insight into the tone and aesthetic of ritual abuse. Although the blood involved in these rituals are striking to observers, the use of the body as a medium of direct experiences of altered states is also present. In Hermann Nitsch's public blood rituals, the body of some participants are placed on crosses or underneath animal corpses, blindfolded, (sensory deprivation) covered in blood and organs, mouth flooded with blood, etc. This creates a shocking spectacle for the viewer but also causes a very significant bodily experience for the participant. Spectacle and sensory deprivation in Nitsch's ritual:
Luis Price
You are conspiracy theorizing I do believe pedophile networks among people who are beyond the law must exist, but if your evidence is some freaky looking art, well, I am disheartened.
Maybe you're belittling the investigation with this load of bull
Isaiah Turner
Cannibalism has been noted historically in Brazil: The Tupi in Brazil believed eating their foes gave them strength Brazil is also home to some native populations that descend from the first wave of migrants from Asian via the Berring Straight, which may be of interest to some globalist groups who appear to be obsessed with genetics.
I am disappointed that people would dismiss this kind of abuse so easily. If there is a chance it is real - and i mean 1% chance - then there is a responsibility to find that out and end it. There is much more than a 1% chance that ritual abuse takes place. It's just extremely difficult to break people out of their NLP blinders that scream "SAITAN!!!!" every single time the issue comes up. It has more to do with Tlaloc or Tanit than Satan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaloc
"..." Tlaloque, this veintena involved the sacrifice of children on sacred mountaintops, like Mount Tlaloc. The children were beautifully adorned, dressed in the style of Tlaloc and the Tlaloque. The children to be sacrificed were cared to Mount Tlaloc on litters strewn with flowers and feathers, whilst also being surrounded by dancers. Once at the shrine, the children's hearts would be pulled out by priests. If, on the way to the shrine, these children cried, their tears were viewed as positive signs of imminent and abundant rains. Every Atlcahualo festival, seven children were sacrificed in and around Lake Texcoco in the Aztec capital. The children were either slaves or the second-born children of noblepeople, or pīpiltin."
We all suffer to some extent from PTSD.. Our false egos are indeed 'legion'.. Lots to meditate upon and to transcend.. The difference between Gurdjieff and Abramovic is he practiced objective religion and wished to attain relatively permanent solar bodies in service to the most high absolute, whereas she like so many others of this day and age, worship more or less evil deities like Moloch.. Believing they can actually defeat the laws of karma by committing atrocities, and accumulating negatively charged energies to crash through the lower sub-human realms to become 'gods' in the kliphotic realms.. They are in my opinion horribly mistaken, and will be demolished. The sad fact is that such evil tendencies have become popular, and taken on a life of their own in our timeline.. The suffering all of this is causing here on this earth is making life here quite hellish and could literally bring about the end of our race.
Xavier Murphy
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. The Gurdjieff-Abramovich mythos has strange similarities w/ Marshall Applewhite's cult emphasis on consciousness/transcendence and explicit sexual components.
That Steemit on the SK shamanism made me instantly recall the huge scandal b/w Park Gyeun-Hye and her weird cult friend whose dad was some shamanic leader.
Also, there's the other documented case of former Pres Park in South Korea.
There is at least a minor connection between this practice as used by former South Korean President Park, and the Watsu practices employed at Harbin, which are yet another example of the "body work" I am describing in this post. Basically one of the medical clinics that were reported to have provided Park with placenta injections also practices Watsu, a practice developed specifically at Harbin.
In this way, RA user's testimony would be indirectly tied to South Korean ritual abuse (which, as in many cases, is based on ancient shamanic ritual practice). Apparently, Park was forced to deny that the death of hundreds of children during the sinking of the Sewol was part of a ritual sacrifice. Reports on the furor state: "Park was also forced to deny rumours that she was participating in a ritual to mark the anniversary of the death of Choi Tae-min, the founder of a Christian sect to which she had ties."
Press reports described "an exclusive clique of unofficial advisers called “the eight fairies”, which has enjoyed extensive access to the president." The clique's members were never identified. The South Korean scandal broke at virtually the same time that Podesta's involvement with Spirit cooking was revealed last year.
" Park has also been forced to explain her own past, including her relationship some 35 years ago with a pastor, Choi Tae-min, whom her opponents characterize as a "Korean Rasputin," and how he controlled Park during her time in the Blue House when she was first lady after her mother's assassination." wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07SEOUL2178_a.html
Well, If the stories are true, Jesus actually DID say that, and believed there is only one religion.. From what I understand, he was a devout Jew, and self identified as a child of our creator.
Christopher Ramirez
Damn, we simultaneously posted. Gettin all synchronous in here.
I remember delving deep in the Soon-Sil mystery, and how the ship catastrophe where a ton of kids died was the big event that tipped off Koreans to their leader's weird relationship. The rumors are that Soon-Sil is her dominatrix lesbian lover, has been since childhood, and the ship crash was 1. Planned sacrifice, or 2. Opportunistic sacrifice.
Gavin Ward
I was aware of that when I wrote it. Hence, my point is, I don't believe in cult leaders of any stripe.
Benjamin Cruz
I never said he was a saint.. Just religious. If you find the time to read some of his ideas within the context he has laid forth, you might find it well worth your while, as I did.
Samuel Walker
Yeah that all went down at the same time spirit cooking came out last year, it was insane. Only the Koreans had a better response, pic related.
Through the Clintons and Podesta, Abramovic and her "Method" are also connected to Haitian Voodoo practice. In at least one case she appears to copy Haitian ritual almost exactly.
The importance of this tradition in terms of ritual abuse is primarily that it has been appropriated by people like Hillary Clinton and her largely wealthy cohorts.
Haitian voodoo provides an especially important example of ritual possession that may represent an ancient variety of multiple personality disorder, borne of the extreme trauma of Haiti's past. Haitian's focus of reaching altered states through the body, the use of sacrifice in Haitian voodoo, and the bloody ritual practices involved therein are fundamental to an understanding of ritual abuse. Altered states through ritual practice are also seen in other indigenous shamanic cultures and the states reached in these cultures may also be compared to multiple personality disorder. Haitian tradition is a particularly strong example that can stand in for other traditions with similar practices from various countries. The discussion of all of these rites would require a book.
None of these groups, Haitian or otherwise, is anything particularly "wrong" by inducing altered states. My intention is to describe the mechanism at work so that readers can compare what happens during these rituals to what happens during actual ritual abuse, as it is the closest framework I find relevant and valid.
So in the case of actual ritual abuse, one would extrapolate similar rituals to those performed by South Koreans, Haitians, etc etc, but instead of beheading a cow or a pig, one would witness a child being killed. The addition of that type of violence is the reason for attempting to write this post, but it is also the element that I obviously cannot show here. I hope readers will be able to understand that inference in this post.
Robert Lopez
The tradition itself is not "ritual abuse" because, as in Korean shamanism, it is not sacrificing children. However I argue that ritual abuse cults use indigenous practices including Haitian ones as a starting point especially because of the deep trauma in which it was created.
Note the use of white robes and blood in Haitian tradition, which is similar to Hermann Nitsch's use of white robes during bloody ritual orgies. White robes worn during a bloody ritual disembowling of a goat was also specifically described in the Finders cult investigation. tedgunderson.info/index_htm_files/US Customs Service Report of Investigation FINDERS.pdf
Jace Ross
Haitian rituals may actively interweave trauma with the spiritual, encouraging dissociation to the point of multiple personality disorder during 'possession.' The manner in which one is possessed in Haitian Voodoo is amongst the bloody sacrifice of animals, intoxication, and vigorous dances/movement. When the individual is in the midst of possession, intense movement continues. Movement and bodily experience is central to this ancient dissociative tradition, to the extent that scholarly works discuss the connection ufdcimages.uflib.ufl.edu/IR/00/00/13/62/00003/Camille Chambers essay 3.pdf
Jonathan King
Underated.
Jaxson Peterson
When you peel off the natural desire to see occultism and rituals as evil or sacrilegious, you start to notice these cold facts:
If you're a human obsessed with control, born in a high-IQ ethnicity, lacking morals, unable to attain demographic majority or political influence, heir to a history of subterfuge/deception/scheming for economic or political advantage, what is your secret weapon?
-The occult-
Adam Young
That this tradition was born amidst extreme trauma suggests that it may be an expression of subconscious, extreme personal and societal pain. This parallels ritual abuse groups, who attain dissociated states through extreme trauma, but who additionally inflict pain/dissociation on powerless children, producing multiple personality disorder.
The use of Haitian traditions by Hillary and Bill Clinton is also fundamentally important. A strong connection between Haitian ritual, Clinton, and the specific practices of Maria Abramovic is very literally shown in the following image from a Washington Post article discussing Hillary and Bill Clinton's participation in a Haitian Voodoo ritual:
Note the illustration on the wall of the building:
Luke Torres
The similarity between the painting shown in the above image above image is striking when it is compared with a more wel-known photograph of Lady Gaga at an Abramovic "artistic" event (which also included mock cannibalism). The similarity of the pose is uncanny. In both instances a black male is tied to a post, mostly nude and strikes a specific pose.
Evan Miller
Pic related to previous post. The pose is identical. The point is that Abramovic is getting her ideas from Gurdjieff, South American/Brazilian shamanism, and Haitian voodoo. Not Anton fucking Lavey.
The similarity between the painting shown in the above image above image is striking when it is compared with a more wel-known photograph of Lady Gaga at an Abramovic "artistic" event (which also included mock cannibalism). The similarity of the pose is uncanny. In both instances a black male is tied to a post, mostly nude and strikes a specific pose.
Landon Martinez
As an anecdote, I never realized that I harbored deeply-ingrained subconscious scars from the ritual Moloch offering of circumcision until I went on a deep psilocybin trip.
I'm now convinced almost all circumcised men are victims of the same trauma, and only come to terms with it rarely. It takes a lot of meditation to accept it, and more to conquer it.
"Bill Clinton wrote that "the most interesting day of the trip" came when he, Hillary and Edwards got a chance to see voodoo in practice in a village near Port-au-Prince. The priest was Max Beauvoir, a former chemical engineer who had studied at the Sorbonne in Paris. Beauvoir had abandoned that career when his voodoo-priest grandfather died and named him as his successor. Beauvoir gave the three visitors what Clinton described as a "brief course in voodoo theology." And then the late-afternoon ceremony began. Clinton wrote: "After several minutes of rhythmic dancing to pounding drums, the spirits arrived, seizing a woman and a man. The man proceeded to rub a burning torch all over his body and walk on hot coals without being burned. The woman, in a frenzy, screamed repeatedly, then grabbed a live chicken and bit its head off. Then the spirits left and those who had been possessed fell to the ground."
Clinton wrote that his "brief foray into the world of voodoo" furthered his fascination with "the way different cultures try to make sense of life, nature, and the virtually universal belief that there is a nonphysical spirit force at work in the world."
Actual ritual murder of children in Haitian Voodoo was documented in the 1800's:
"The Trial That Gave Vodou A Bad Name describes an alleged instance of ritual child murder and cannibalism asspciated with Haitian Voodoo: "An 1864 case that ended with the execution of eight Haitians for child murder and cannibalism has helped define attitudes toward the nation and the religion ever since"
"The most detailed account of the murder came from the pen of Sir Spenser St John, who was the British charge d’affaires in Port-au-Prince at the time—and St John’s account helped define Haiti as a place where ritual murder and cannibalism were commonplace, and usually went unpunished. The charge proved so influential that, as recently as 2010, the magnitude 7.0 earthquake that leveled much of the capital could still be blamed on a supposed “pact with the devil” that the country had signed by turning to vodou."
"Sir Spenser St John, British charge d’affaires in Haiti during the 1860s, compiled by far the most detailed account of the Bizoton affair, and believed implicitly in the reality of child sacrifice by “vaudaux” worshipers."
"Jeanne Pelé did not have to look far for a suitable victim. She chose her sister’s child, a girl named Claircine, who St John says was 12 years old at the time...They bound and gagged her and hid her beneath the altar of a nearby temple. The girl stayed there for four full days and nights. Finally, after dark on New Year’s Eve, an elaborate vodou ceremony was held. At its climax—St John says—Claircine was strangled, flayed, decapitated and dismembered. Her body was cooked, and her blood caught and kept in a jar."
Another reason for elite fascination with Haitian ritual may be its ancient quality. National Geographic cites estimates that the tradition could be up to 6000 years old:
"Voodoo, meaning "spirit," may be one of the world's oldest ancestral, nature-honoring traditions, according to Mamaissii Vivian Dansi Hounon, a member of OATH, the Organization of African Traditional Healers in Martinez, Georgia. Some anthropologists estimate that voodoo's roots in Benin—formerly Dahomey—West Africa may go back 6,000 years"
In this case, much like Gurdjieff's sacred dances, the techniques of dissociation eventually used/studied by the CIA and modern ritual abuse groups may have had incredibly ancient origins.
Anyone else noticing a loose correlation with the late-19th century and the emergence of occultism & shamanic ritual use by governments?
Michael Williams
wow...
Michael Johnson
One 'Athiest blog' points out the a documented connection between Haitian Voudoo and *Ritual child abuse and killings.' The article cites a "UN Committee Concerned About Child Trafficking For Religious Rituals," via an article from Sputnik. The AFP article also cited in the blog post has since been deleted and is not archived on any platform I could find.
The AFP article was said to have stated: "We're concerned about reports that hundreds of children have been abducted from their families in Africa and trafficked to the UK, especially London, for religious rituals," said Kristen Sandberg, head of the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child." The author of the blog writes: "The article says that British police have reported many cases of child torture and abuse for witchcraft rituals. It then goes on to list off a few such cases in more detail."
The blog author then cites the original UN article, which has also since been deleted and not archived:
"The Committee is strongly concerned that thousands of children continue to be trafficked every year in the State party, particularly for sexual exploitation and labour, and it expresses its deepest concern about reports that hundreds of children have been abducted from their families in Africa and trafficked to the State party for brutal religious rituals, such as the so-called voodoo and juju rituals..."
"The Committee urges that the State party strengthen the capacity of law-enforcement authorities and judiciary to detect and prosecute trafficking of children for labour, sexual and other forms of exploitation, including for religious rituals. The Committee further recommends that the State party enact a specific legislation on child trafficking in accordance with the Optional Protocol and the Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, especially Women and Children (UN Palermo Protocol) and ensure that the crime of child trafficking is defined consistently and prosecuted..
Levi Turner
The "body work" techniques like dance, Watsu, and sensory deprivation are a connecting thread that run through most practices of this type regardless of their aesthetic. It joins together the most ancient rites with modern intelligence agency interest in traumatic mind control practices, and it form a reliable focus for further research.
Brody Myers
Sexual inadequacy in the male consciousness is a deliberate (((merchant))) process achieved w/ circumcision.
A man will never feel like a true man if his earliest memory is of losing flesh from his masculinity's symbolic essence.
Anthony Davis
You are not. But before that there was Elizabeth Bathory, Marquis DeSade, etc etc.
"Báthory and four collaborators were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of young women between 1585 and 1609.[4] The highest number of victims cited during Báthory's trial was 650. "
"rescuers responded to a fire at her Royal Street mansion and discovered bound slaves in her attic who showed evidence of cruel, violent treatment over a long period. "
"His 20s and 30s had been marked by a series of public scandals: a sexual assault on a young woman named Rose Keller; an orgy in Marseille which led to four prostitutes falling ill after consuming chocolate-coated Spanish fly (an aphrodisiac); and, most disturbingly, a winter spent in his chateau with his wife and several freshly recruited servants aged around 15 – the so-called “little girls affair”. After years of covering up her son-in-law’s behaviour, Madame de Montreuil had finally had enough: she had the king sign a lettre de cachet, a royal warrant that meant Sade could be incarcerated indefinitely. He was arrested in February 1777 and remained in prison for the next 13 years."
TLDR of this is basically your average Joe can't even begin to wrap his head around the idea of killing kids in Satanic cults
BUT we can redpill them and help save these kids by telling Joe that they're "trafficking" the kids, rather than the absurdly horrible truth.
Lincoln Miller
>not including the next part when he is freed from the Bastille and made a judge
Charles Gonzalez
Sacrifice is simply the act of discarding something a human wants/needs in the hopes that their decision to live without it will impress some deity.
And in the end, what can the human race need/want more than their own children? Is not the concept of child sacrifice the most costly sacrifice possible?
Adrian Green
See, if we don't learn from history we're doomed to repeat it. We've clearly repeated this so many times now.
The abusers are promoted. The victims are punished. Eg Alisha Owen. "In one case, a 21-year-old who bad been abused since adolescence was indicted on eight counts of perjury by both state and Federal grand juries. Facing more than 300 years in prison, she still refused to recant. Her travesty of a trial resulted in a prison sentence of nine to 15 years. She spent nearly two years in solitary confinement." salem-news.com/articles/december292012/boys-town-scandal-tk.php
"The nature of the charge against her is unclear and that information is refused when requested of court staff. The case took place late yesterday morning but it did not appear on any court lists until the hearing was past.
Melanie Shaw did not appear in person in court for this hearing, which was conducted by video link from her prison, as has also been the case with previous of her court 'appearances'. She states that without fail, whenever in the past she has given testimony by such video link, she has been cut off on the pretext that "you were shouting", which she denies.
Melanie Shaw is one of the few child abuse whistleblowers who is prepared to name politicians as having been among the abusers of her fellow inmates, some of whom she asserts were murdered on site at Beechwood. Her reminiscences date from 1987, in which year the Cabinet was constituted of these politicians until the general election that May and of these politicians thereafter. (This does not constitute an allegation by UK Column News that any particular Cabinet minister at the above links was an abuser.)
If you want a good birthing, you give your animal.
If you want a good profit, you give your money.
If you want to control the Earth, you give your children.
Jordan Stewart
As someone who was ritually abused, this clears up many things.
Austin Young
Obviously larp but ill bite. elaborate.
Caleb Brooks
muricaah, frick yee
Jayden Phillips
The way to get people to start understanding the ritual abuse/ cannibalism/murder part of things is to get them to understand that snuff films are real. Snuff is part of organized crime/child trafficking/ child prostitution that people can understand. Then after that the cannibalism aspect of the murders that are filmed, then after that maybe in 100 years people will be either farmed enough or redpilled enough to see it.
Jayden Wright
Me too which is why I know that normal people don't understand it. This abuse is too horrific to bother with being shamed for talking about it. I care more about the kids this is still happening to.
Zachary Rivera
"The libertines, surrounded by their victims, listen and enact the passions described, and as the passions become more brutal, so do the libertines: the novel builds to a violent climax with the “criminal” and “murderous” passions of Parts Three and Four. These are presented as long, numbered lists, interspersed with brief accounts of the scenes they inspire. Sade’s tortures range from the cartoonish (“He vigorously flattens a foot with a hammer”) to the clinical (“Her air supply is turned off and on at whim inside a pneumatic machine”); and from the surreal (“They make her swallow a serpent which in turn will devour her”) to the mundane (“He dislocates a wrist”). But the vast majority are simply too obscene and too violent to be quoted, as one nameless victim after another is subjected to increasingly elaborate and frenzied torments.
These relentless lists read like a series of nightmarish diary entries, or a set of instructions for an apprentice torturer. The 120 Days is not a work that seduces its readers: it assaults them"
Interesting reads. I never pieced it together why Clintons were so involved in Haiti besides the gold/"humanitarianism"/etc: Haitian voodoo and ritual sacrifice
Grayson Barnes
Thank you!
Easton Evans
The teachings aren’t invalid. Bad people (such as new ager’s at Esalen) have used Yoga to rape people. Gurdjieff is not a charlattan. Sorry, try again. Very brilliant men, often give hot chicks drugs and are sexually inappropriate with them at festivals. Doesn’t make what they’re saying untrue. I don’t know why most spiritual teachers and leaders end up being scumbags. See: the Pope’s brother. Gurdjieff’s teachings are very tied into the very same mystery schools that Jesus attended. There is also a connection to Sufism here. Mysticism is mysticism, doesn’t make the guy a terrorist. JP and Killary should stop eating adrenal glands. So should’ve Aleister Crowley. Doesn’t mean the Babylonian mysteries shouldn’t be explored. Btw, it is said Hitler studied under G.I. Gurdjieff. G believed that growth is only possible through struggle, or opposing forces. Sound familiar? It was he who was the reason for Germany invading Russia. Hmm. Now that I think about it... maybe it all was a psyop.. Nevertheless, the 4th way is a great philosophy and spiritual path.
Leo Hughes
I was in a "gifted" program which used sensory deprivation and weird headphones. We were all stripped naked in front of a mirror and forced to look at ourselves for hours until we couldnt recognize our faces anymore. This was all EU funded probably and just talking about it makes me scared. That was when I was around 10.
Then again around 17 I was in the Abramovic circles, the contemporary art shit. It's basically deconstruction of the soul.
I would go on, but I dont know how much I have guts to say and im currently at a mall, I would have to sit down and remember everything methodically and chronologically, but cant right now, sorry.
Easton Lewis
The US is nothing compared to Europe when it comes to that shit. Believe me.
Kayden Thompson
What are you now? Soul intact or are you just a surviving husk? Ive seen both.
Isaiah Clark
bumpen
Caleb Brown
I got my humanity back, but I sometimes get these vivid memories that seem like from a past life, some I dont know if its a dream or some fabrication of my mind.
At least now I can recognize and profile these people when I meet them.
