Is this series the reason that the battle shounen genre became so universally loathed?

Is this series the reason that the battle shounen genre became so universally loathed?

It started with the downfall of Bleach and Naruto, this only solidified it.

And this will be the one that is gonna kill the genre for good. Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail and Black Clover are like the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

You know, Fairy Tail is actually good if you see it as a huge parody of the shounen genre

I unironically like Black Clover

Black Clover is the first manga that I realized that would be utter shit only from seeing the first page

I really like the whole 'main character doesn't give up no matter what' thing.
I just really like shounen.

Honestly, is there any good ongoing shonen?

my hero academia is pretty okay.

Kingdom
Fire Brigade of Flames
Helck is okay
Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru

I could think of more in time

One Punch Man does that without being trash.

I just want Mashima to draw porn already. His girls are 11/10.

Hell no. Bleach did that.

OPM isn't shounen.

How did Fairy Tail even get that popular anyway? Most other successful long running shonen have at least one 9/10 arc to get readers hooked. The best FT arc is a 7/10 at best.

Yea plenty, like Yotsuba&!

>Fire Brigade of Flames
Hell no thats awful.

Gintama is pretty damn good, it's self aware enough to make fun of stupid tropes but serious enough to do things right

Does jojo count?

Yotsuba&! is for mature audiences only.

And that's why OPM is a better parody

Yeah, I agree.

>Kingdom
Seinen.
>Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru
Seinen.
>Fire Brigade of Flames
Terrible.

1/4, good job.

There's plenty, just not battle shounen.

I read it too see what new bullshit he pulls from other shit manga to keep him going for another chapter. He unabashedly rips off other shounen, like not influence, genuine rip offs. See Magi dungeon, Seven Deadly Sins transformation, the premise of Fairy Tale. The only good character is the only Japanese guy, go figure.

I only see people shitting on Fairy Tail (and rightfully), but you can't deny there are good aspects to the series that make people like it.

Sure the animation and "plot" are mostly trash, but the character designs are good, the girls especially are all great. The music is excellent. The world building itself with the guilds and stuff is interesting, if not very original.

Hunter X Hunter is technically ongoing

> the character designs are good
The girls' bodies are hot, that's basically the only strong point the designs have, and even then he's a worse artist than some of the doujinka who parody him, so it's no reason to read the series instead of only fapping to the hentai.

> The world building itself with the guilds and stuff is interesting
Not really, no. Like you alluded to, it's pretty generic stuff.

No comment on the music, since I never tried the anime.

>Shonen
>Genre

The first two of those three were specifically about the "battle shounen genre," you blind faggot.

>SHONEN
>GENRE

>BATTLE SHOUNEN
>NOT A GENRE
FUCK OFF

One Piece is still good

-Having a generally better produced anime adaptation than the Big 3.
-People like "badass" women, and Fairy Tail has a lot of them.
-Nothing superficially weird and alienating, like "orange ninjas" or "rubber pirates"
-Arcs that (usually) don't drag on too long.

natsu is bad ass tho

No because it's a seinen

Black Clover is shit but I honestly don't see how it is any worse than later Naruto or Bleach. It has at least better pacing than both, even if it goes too far on the other way.

Because the mangaka works hard and releases more chapters a year than any other mangaka.

Naruto's pacing actually wasn't that bad up until the war. Bleach's pacing isn't that bad when marathoned because of how quick the chapters are.

See, that's the problem with Bleach. A Bleach chapter has less than half a chapter of any other series worth of content. That's the reason it died.

No, that would be One Piece.

it was shonen until a bit into part 7.

>Currently Running
Parts 1-6 are over
8 is running which is a _____

>One Piece
>battle manga

I've never read or watched it but just looking at the MC, those cats, or my fitness trainer's FT tattoo that looks like some Chocobo keychain or something make me angry. Even Naruto never did that for me

But it's not good

Haikyuu

It's literally the same shit.

Not even close.
You must be new as shit to even think that.

i liked it

Quick question.
How much more popular would Fairy tale have been if the title characters were kids instead of young adults?
I mean, I'd miss busting loads to Lucy but would it make the series better?
I know it would sell to a younger demo a lot better.

PLOT

just here to remind you that shounen is everything I dislike. if I like it, it's seinen.

i hate this meme

Ballroom e Youkoso
MIX
Birdmen
Mahoutsukai no Yome
Silver Spoon
etc.

Shounen does not mean "weekly series about kids punching people with the power of friendship."

Here comes the mememaster, peddling his memes.

This one's made of his boyhood dreams