Can the U.S win the war in Afghanistan?

Can the U.S win the war in Afghanistan?

Easily, but it's more about wanting to end it.

We already won.

We could, but we're doing the same dumb shit we did in Vietnam. Far too concerned about civilian casualties.

>We
Nice LARP, goy.

No.
Any soldier on the ground could have told you this 15 years ago. Its a retarded quagmire and too many good men died in that shithole.

The Taliban will retake most the country and it will go back to its tribal blood feuds adminstered by a klepotrocractistic westernized elite from Kabul.

>The Taliban will retake most the country and it will go back to its tribal blood feuds adminstered by a klepotrocractistic westernized elite from Kabul.

why would taliban do that

when your literal war goal was
>muh k/d

You cant win against a population which fucking hate you, a population that cant read and write one thats hooked on opium and a religion thats 500 years in the past, people that will plant an ied for 5 bucks.

Only way would have been to kill everyone and everything thay causes a problem.

It was just a way for the military industry to make more money imo, look into kbr and Halliburton.

no

muslims have proven to have determination
you will never win
afganistan will never be pacified while you there
they battle you with a fraction of the budget and yet you have spent more than 5 trillion already

so bad that you trying to make a profit has been imposible

what does winning that war look like?

there is nothing we need over there and OBL is wherever the nigger took him.
winning right now is just leaving and taking as much with us as we can.

if the ANA was worth a shit then it could end in some sort of victory, but these sacks of shit do nothing but smoke opium and fuck each other so the taliban will probably wreck them.

It may offend your delicate sensibilities, but since the western world adopted this "nice guy" approach to warfare, it's been consistently ineffective at war. Prior to Vietnam, there were so few examples of successful unconventional forces, that they're seldom even mentioned in history.

War would be won in less than a year if we were able to actually conduct war without being shackled down.

We need to be more ruthless than we are willing.

Because its what they've always done. Westerners truly don't understand their thinking. Especially Americans. They are primitive but not stupid if that makes sense.

Mullar Omar put on the "cloak of Muhammad" and immediately had the loyalty of of his emirs and locals. They are hundreds of little nations within "Afghanistan". Pay some strongman/dictator to slaughter Islamists like the Russians do in Central Asia and pull the military out. A lot of these guys have been fighting since the 80's. They will outlast any invader.

REMINDER
I was against the Afghanistan war. I said everywhere on the web that we should just aprehend al queda. Once I learned more about how Afghanistan works, I expanded it to USA basically bribing the Taliban to initiate reforms.

Pay them money, they issue a fatwa against the burka. Pay them more, they cease warning with the northern alliance, and reform a republic. Kabul could look like dubai 2.0 right now, and Khandahar could be free from pedos, but the republitards wanted to get revenge

define "win".
There's nothing there to "win".
The US will waste a bunch of money and accomplish jack shit.

Imagine a super power invading your country and homeland, imagine an islamic army or some shit.

They destroy your military in a couple of months and replace the military and government with a foreign islamic idea and start hunting people who want to stay a christian country.

I bet 90% of you would be planting ieds tryong to stop them, its the ssme thing over there, they are just waiting for us to leave.

> wanted to get revenge
at this rate the afganistan curse is going to become truth
it seems like afganistan will get their revenge

No, not because "muh civilian casualties" but because the US has no endgame. Their plan from the start was essentially
1. Invade Afghanistan
2. Depose Taliban
3. ???
4. Afghanistan becomes a secular democratic state with free elections

what the hell does this have to do with the question

everybody gets smoked out of afghanistan eventually

Win a war against what? Caves? Our presence is fucking permanent, there will never be peace in a place who exists so we don't have to have a place called Fuckall Nothing on the map