Polarized America

What is the current political situation in America? My impression is that society has become increasingly polarized.

What made it come to this? Is there a way back?

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>What made it come to this?

multiculturalism/multi racialism

Soros has paid billions to make identity politics more important than patriotism

lots of shit, the decline of social trust is evident by the late 1950s/early 1960s, read Putnam's "Bowling Alone." political polarization is just a symptom of America's political parties thinking they have more to gain by implementing a partisan policy strategy which is in itself a symptom of declining social trust and declining trust in public institutions. it has a lot to do with stagnant wages, lack of readily accesible upward economic mobility and the advent of mass media

It seems like in America, there is no longer the feeling of doing things for the "good of the nation". It's all about grand standing and serving the interests of only half the country that voted for you.

to some degree. that attitude has always found a place here though, shit was no different and just as partisan throughout the majority of the 19th century, often even worse--you think Berkeley or the Dakota Pipeline protests are bad, go look at Bleeding Kansas

in the contemporary era it's just internationalism and America being the center of world commerce that prevents it from having a homogeneous identity; that and a lack of serious foreign threat, decline of religious life and economic strife. Bottom-line is that America lacks an agreed-upon identity that the majority of citizens are willing to acquiesce to

When America was 85% white , There is no difference between democrat or republican

Truman Democrat and Ike Republican still hang out with each other

Problem is Current year america is 56% white

And "New American" and "Left" Don't want Anglo-American culture

With out Anglo-American culture, America is nothing but soulless consumer society

Of course , people gonna fight each other
Because There is no common denominator between White middle class Liberal and Shit-skin Commie fuck

Has it always been this bad though? I think previously it was possible for politicians in Congress to compromise, no? Nowadays they seldom vote for something put forward by the other side because it will be used against them in future elections.

It seems like there is no room for moderates anymore. Rather, an extreme of one arm or the other.

It's not as divided as you think. If you talk to any "leftist" one on one and make valid points they tend to agree with you. Also both parties are fucking retarded and it helps the conversation if you point out shit policies both implemented.

People may vote liberal but that doesn't mean they are single-issue voters or so pigeon-hold as to be as bad as black voters.

I think we're going to Balkanized by the end of the century desu

I think earlier than that. Like him or not, but Trump has divided the US to a crazy extent.

There's a global trend in the west of viewing the mainstream parties as stagnant or illegitimate. In Europe many mainstream parties are getting the worst results in many decades. When the collapses like that you always get the two extremes of political spectrum fighting. I think in the US there was a bit of unity during WW2 and after that broke down in the 60s with the Vietnam war and desegregation and it's never really resolved. Adding economic stress onto already big fault lines and you get the current situation.

not sure; the history of American partisanship is pretty strong throughout the 19th century and the early 20th century so i'm tempted to say the current manifestation isn't necessarily anything "new" in terms of trend

in the mid-20th century it was of course not at all uncommon for social Democrats and market liberals to co-sponsor and vote on bills that crossed party lines; the vast majority of legislature passed after the Second World War prior to LBJ and the "Great Society" was bipartisan. this might be the exception though rather than the rule.

couldn't tell you why that era was different--probably had a lot to do with the cultural mythos that developed prior to and during WW2

The center*

Maybe it's just inevitable.

It's pretty divided beyond your ken

White society divided by Men verse Women , Left verse Right , Globalist Neocon verse nationalist

That's why "White TM" Republican defeated at virginia and alabama

Because whites are divided and coloured are hunger for "REVENGE"

Seem to me , Whites gonna eventually BTFO by Good White Cuck & coloured TEAM

soulless Consumerism will be general trend In US

Meryl Streep and Minority have one thing in common

They Love "Money and SEX"

the right killed the fairness doctrine and then began shilling for the rich and turning the average people against eachother.

Korean dog prophet

demographics + decades of communist infiltration finally coming to a head

28 million population , only 15 million people are actually born Australia

You have same goddamn situation what white american have....

establishment and politician keep back-stabbing people

and The People who know True-Australia become minority

until the jews are not evacuated of power there wont never will be peace again their hatred for europeans and the practical use of us as scapegoat of everithing that goes wrong make it imposible.
And the worst is to come whe we wont have any political power and they are sure we cant make any resistance any more they will use as punchball .
It seem that they smooth a little their attack but thats because we are resisting and in a couple of decades de demografick sshift is complete they will go hard as ever

Perhaps there is too much of a surge nationalistic thought across the planet. Over 50 years ago, A. Maslow commented that nationalism might be the scourge of our culture. Contemporary philosophers, such as Cornell West may perhaps have similar views. During election cycles, it seems like the Democrats are trying to compete with a more conservative party that often displays a multiple flag array. Abroad, people often suggest "don't way your flag in my face". What was Flag Day anyway, but a ploy of a vendor to sell more flags.

No tribal cohesion and mass corruption. The organic energy of a united free people has been squandered for shekels. The only hope is a major happening will awaken the sleeping giant and when this happens independent media will confirm their instinct.

>more like White Middle class and Elite Choose degeneracy called "borderless Consumerism"

Society is more poralized than it was during the Civil War but men today are pussy faggots so nothing will come from it.

It's really aggravating and shitty, but kinda fun in a sick way.

>MFW

It's the coming 4th Turning.
This will be our fourth crisis as a nation.
Seems this one will involve ideologies and debt.
jmho

WTF who let the french take over america?

Half the country wants to abandon it's founding principles, the other half wants to preserve them.

Pre Obama it was as good as it's ever been. Obama more or less empowered all the minorities and vilified the big bad straight white males which caused a tremendous amount of backlash. There weren't any race riots that I remember when Bush was president, it seemed like there was about one a week from 2008-2016.

A big side effect was Trump being elected. The silent majority (myself included) became frustrated by a bunch of fringe groups dictating what society should deem offensive and decided that Clinton would be more of the same.

Fine overblown mainstream media lies

In my opinion. Hippy boomers are pushing as hard as they can to realize their communist/socialist utopia before they die off. Gen X is fighting it off and can't stand the hippy bull shit. Millennials have had their opportunities limited by the boomers policy and tech advancement so are also leaning commie.

You can't reconcile fiercely independent nature of the worlds greatest contrarian national identity with commie structure. So it will end in war.

>Has it always been this bad though?
No.
Back in the 70's, 80's and 90's they worked together.
The big boogieman no one talks about is the debt and all the social welfare programs.
Always the solution to the last crisis, is in turn the cause of the next crisis.

Ronald Reagan removed the Fairness Doctrine, then Rush Limbaugh started his incindiary talk radio show, others followed, then Fox News, and here we are today. Thanks to Reagan.

at the rate we are going, conflict is inevitable and its going to be real fucking bad.

because ego

define commie

>but Trump has divided the US to a crazy extent.
Bullshit.
Obama and the MSM divided the US.
I voted for Obama the first time around.
But he lies to us all.
We got more War and more Debt.
Holy shit, he destroyed Syria, Libya and Ukraine.
And doubled our debt.

Why are the red and blue switched?

Nationalism worked for America for hundreds of years.

No way back... either race war or blacks and whites work to achieve respectable ethnostates while driving the indians and spaniards out of existance

>What made it come to this? Is there a way back?
Identity politics. Seriously go back to just 9/11 and no one gave a shit about what skin color the people who were killed had.

Virtually the whole nation was pissed and wanted retribution.

>until the jews

SAGE , FAGGOT IT WAS WHITE MIDDLE CLASS

60 years ago, White working class still have decency and nobility their own

They know that Open border and Force integration is nothing but Communism

Its literally Communism that goal is get rid of noble and beautiful of European ancestry

And Make "Equally brown"

But hedonistic soulless "White middle class" Choose Borderless and less Nationalistic Consumer Society

Every kind of Bullshit coming from Third world into America

America white middle class are "end consumer" to this kind of degeneracy

ITS NOT A JEW , ITS WHITE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY AND POWER

2nd civil war flag, i presume

Things are going well. Sand Niggers are being sent to paradise, Mexicans over the walls and the rest are being phased out by fatty foods.

fuck off english teacher

Wrong white people were fooled into accepting minorities with open legs

Central government planning and control. Attempting to force equality of outcome. Dissolving states rights with federal over-reach. The usual

Those of us who work hard, love our country, and want wats best for its people are here right now kicking ass. The market is the best its ever been, anyone who wants a job can get one, and for the first time since the 90's companies are handing out christmas bonnus's.

Its fucking great. Its hasn't even been a year and for the first time since I was a kid people are saying "Merry Christmas". America is back on track to be what it should have been been before the fucking corporate olgiarchy of bush-clinton-bush-Obama(Clinton) bullshit.

I'm proud as fuck to be an American right now.

it's because liberals went fucking insane, and started pushing an extremely radical vision onto society

If you talk to a college liberal these days they sound like foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics

Yeah people saying that whotes are dying off its just the degenerate filthy baby boomer generation thats finalky passing away

They are lunatics

No one cares about them anymore... i dont know if we ever did

Hundreds of years of Manifest Destiny, and where are the next frontiers? Perhaps 'nano' where imperial classes attempt to enslave with the aid of technology.

It has been this way since the union and the confederacy. One side disagreed whilst did as well, and they settle it in a war "civil war" and to this day we find ourselves protesting in violent protests and smashing windows and what not. It's just a never ending loop of events unfolded by one's opinion and the fact that another side is to pussy to actually listen to their opinion.

It's not. Most people just want to live their lives and be left alone. In this way everyone is mostly libertarian. But, the media uses fear, anger, jealousy, and other negative human responses to divide and conquer. People leave their libertarian default because of perceived security, handouts, and fear of Independence and/or alienation. (((They))) are creating every bit of it.

The wealthy are brainwashing republicans with propaganda. The only way back is to put limits on free speech which isn't going to happen. We may be headed towards another civil war.

Liberals seem to be into space

We also had literal aerial bombing (albeit grenades from biplanes) against miners right after WW1 as well as some big union-government/strikers massacre or battle in the late 19th century.

For the United States and Europe:
-Economic downturn since 2008. Shitty economics always makes people irritable and angry. Poor wages and such -Shift from nationalist left/right to globalist vs nationalist. There's a phrase coined of the somewheres vs anywheres. I'd caveat that anywheres can be anywhere that is affluent and white and asian. archive.is/Tn07X this or this newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/03/anywheres-vs-somewheres-split-made-brexit-inevitable (can't archive it on archive.is)

Anywhere vs Somewhere is a lot more traumatic and existential a conflict than left/right. You see a bit of the anywhere with how democrats just about literally love foreigners more than they do US citizens.

I overwhelmingly blame social media and the media, though.

The fabric of America is literally becomming undone. We have extreme political, cultural, spiritual and economic problems that are coming to a head over the next few years. We're going to reach a crisis point that is so severe that it will have to be dealt with directly and decisively. Dealing with the crisis will fundementally reorganize American society and bring on a new era of institution building and stability. But we have to go through the crisis first because society is actually very cyclical. Pic related identifies four parts to this cycle: High -> Awakening -> Unraveling -> Crisis. The crisis era is the "fourth turning" and comes every 80 years. Our other fourth turnings were the revolutionary war, civil war, WWII/great depression. We are due to hit the crisis point sometime in the 2020s. It seems like every cycle ramps up the severity so strap in for the ride. We're going to crazytown and we're dragging the whole world with us whether you like it or not. This is what Steve Bannon believes is happening btw.

>is there a way back
Probably. I wouldn't wish the Folsom Street Fair to get ALOHA SNACKBAR-ed, but that's what it might take.
>Achmed fouls it up, is pulled from the truck by Butch Leather Daddy and beaten.
I could live with that!

>My socialist utopia bull shit can't stand the scrutiny of counter argument so we will have to settle this with our shock troops of dildo waving trannies

Hard to find any liberals working with NASA - a lot of conservative thought there.

>What is the current political situation in America? My impression is that society has become increasingly polarized.

American society is pretty much coming apart at the seams.

>What made it come to this?

A lot of things, but I'd say political discourse started to really deteriorate after 9/11.

>Is there a way back?

Unless everyone takes a step back and mutually agrees to back down, no. I wouldn't be surprised if Civil War broke out by the end of the decade. This country is turning into a powderkeg, all we need is a John Brown wannabe to light the match.

I end up with that kind of view. It's a chance to witness history in the making, to strap in and enjoy the ride. Not to pull a liberal "make pop culture reference because I can't separate reality from fantasy" but it reminds me of the gandalf bit about nobody wishing they were born in a period of uncertainty and despair, but they make due with what they are given by life. And as of right now my lot is still greater and more comfortable than my grandparent's.

>declining social trust and declining trust in public institutions. it has a lot to do with stagnant wages, lack of readily accesible upward economic mobility and the advent of mass media

You just described what has happened to Australia in the last 5 or 6 years to a T.

>any progress towards a better society is impossible you just don't understand!!
>the only thing we can do is suck the wealthy's cocks and worship the ground they walk on!!

Quite frankly if war were to break out the right would win, the left cannot shoot for shit. It is boiling, and I believe it will boil around 2025 and then boil over into canada

Army of the Trans-Mississippi Flag. I think the story is the person who made had the colors backward by mistake or something. It was also used some alternate history novels where the South wins the CW and then eventually has a Hitler stand-in rise to power and form a "Socialist Confederation of America" and star that TL's WWII.

That's a good meaning to attach to it. I like it.

There is no common denominator between White middle class Liberal and Shit-skin Commie fuck

those two groups were NEVER supposed to live in the same country as one another because it's obvious what would happen.

It's an Army of the Trans-Mississippi battle flag

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Trans-Mississippi

Majority of white women actually voted for Trump, not the same amount as white men obviously, but it's only the younger, millennial women who are dividing themselves from men, almost entirely cause of feminism. Rest of your points are accurate but consumerism and a lot of the things that kept America stable (and by America I mostly mean baby boomers cause our generation does not have the same economic opportunities that they had) just aren't working with millennials and Gen Z anymore. Soon we'll become the largest voting bloc, and that's when things are going to get a lot more divided.

Australia's demographics are pretty fucked too, you guys just don't have the same conservative culture that America does (small government, self reliance, etc.) so lots of Australians are passive as fuck about it. Same with Europe, shit hasn't hit the fan yet but atheism, feminism, and multiculturalism have poisoned all your societies and what little national identity you have is currently going down the drain too.

Most Conservatards and Trumpcucks will be dead soon from abject poverty, diabetes and opioid overdoses. Trump is a blessing in disguise in that his policies have destroyed Conservatism, the Republican Party and will kill a million rural retard voters. He’s the last gasp of the type of losers morons who populate this cesspool image board. The USA will return to greatness on the most amazing bounce back from hitting bottom via this laughingstock cartoon com-man.

>Australia's demographics are pretty fucked too,
We have nowhere near the level of racial tension and segregation that you do.

Boomers or the '68 generation' are sustaining the mainstream parties all over the west.
No matter how things play out in the short-medium term I can gaurantee you that once they all die the polarisation will get 10 times worse.

We can literally see it happening now cant we? The white race has all the real power in america though

that image isn't accurate

it should be 95% red

>and what little national identity you have

I'll always wonder why my fellow Amerimutts are so retarded.

Oh wait no I won't.

The true aussies are increasingly moving rural.

How can there be any trust at the rate they are importing non whites. We are going to be like the US in a few years. Multiculturalism is cheap wages and social conflict and that's all it will ever be.

>fooled

They are not fooled

They are educated and born into wealthy family

They are the one who have "white privilege"

They are doing it because they don't believe GOD , Soul , Destiny of nation

Highly educated manpower who goal of life is nothing but consume everything they see

They are direct descendant of Weimar Republic

CAPITALISM , POSTMODERNISM , LIBERALISM IS NOTHING BUT barbaric Consumerism disguise as humane Mask

Gerrymandering.

96.7% of incumbents won in 2016 despite 74% disapproval. When they don't have to worry about losing their seat and have to worry about primary challenges instead, they tend to move farther to the extremes.

I cant stand young dumb white girls

I prefer arabs

>think the story is the person who made had the colors backward by mistake or something.

When the first battle flags were being issued, the manufacturer for the Army of the Trans-Mississippi misinterpreted the written regulations for the ANV battle flag and dyed them dominant blue instead of red.

tmg110.tripod.com/usarmyh12.htm

>It was also used some alternate history novels where the South wins the CW and then eventually has a Hitler stand-in rise to power and form a "Socialist Confederation of America" and star that TL's WWII.

You're thinking of the Southern Victory series by Harry Turtledove and it's the flag of the Freedom Party, that timeline's equivalent of the NSDAP, although Turtledove dropped the ball with Southern Victory because the second half of it is absolute shit.

We're more divided than we were during the Civil War.

Niggers love the opioid meme.

Dont niggers shoot more dope than whites anyway? Hows this even a thing?

O wait u were kangz in shit

Yeah I noticed the second half is pretty fucking boring and predictable. He also got some criticism because in all reality he sorta just replaced some names and locations rather using a little creativity to make at least somewhat different or unique from the OTL.

Old fag here, agree with you.
>The market is the best its ever been
Just be aware there will be a downturn at some point.
It's all cycles.

Why is gerrymandering even allowed? Why aren't your districts determined by a neutral, independent body like every other first world democracy?

Idk about that, aussie.

Euros are pretty stupid in ebery part of the world EXCEPT AMERICA where webe been living with niggers gypsies injuns and creepgooks for a million years

>Hippy boomers are pushing as hard as they can to realize their communist/socialist utopia before they die off.

Yeah. I've come to believe this is the legacy that generation wants to leave. 'Well we are all dead but all the white societies are multicultural and we had fuck all kids. So legacy can't be undone without civil war 2.0 or WW3 so fuck every other generation.

Boomers win.

underrated

Ur a fucking chink nigger dude


No one gives a fuck about ur observations from 10,000 miles away looking thru a fucking magnifying glass

they have really gone off the deep end.

>Euros are pretty stupid in ebery part of the world EXCEPT AMERICA where webe been living with niggers gypsies injuns and creepgooks for a million years

Illinois is a breeding ground for political terrorists and will be the first state to fall into chaos.

>Euros are pretty stupid in ebery part of the world EXCEPT AMERICA

>What made it come to this?
we can only pray...

because Democrats in blue states don't want to lose power and Republicans in red states don't want to lose power.

It becomes a giant clusterfuck, especially since they are redrawn every 10 years. It's looking like Democrats will win a bunch of seats in 2018, just in time for 2020 redistricting.

Even the "independent" redistricting runs into issues because often times the commission is dominated by the state's dominant political party.

It should really just be done via computer based on criteria we want (equal populations, small as possible, doesn't split up counties too much) but nobody wants to risk their job, even if it's more fair.

Well its true whether anyone likes it or not

Yeah were all half italian but whatever

>Why is it habbening?
Because there is no faith in public dialogue.