Why is killing bad?

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it's only bad if you kill good people

if you're not atheist its bad because you'll burn in hell

Well if you kill white people its not bad cuz they racist. If you kill people of colour its bad cuz its racist.

Because most people don't want it done to them.

Kill yourself and find out my dude

>Don't do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you

Dunno, you want someone to kill you?

Go to mexico and shout "fuck every cartel'

The proper response to murder is murder. Therefore, murderous impulses are suicidal impulses. It's a dangerous vortex that people should never choose to start into. The only good reason to kill someone is the defense of life - the delivery of the proper response.

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People shouldn't die. They're everything that brings value to the world. Without people, this planet would be nothing but a rock, no matter how verdant the surface was.

What is moral objectivity?

Something that doesnt exist.

It's self-harm.
Those people, animals, niggers, kikes, jews are actually you though in a different body and mental state.

This is the hinge upon which the door swings

Indiscriminate killing among populations is obviously non-productive and it benefits society to rid themselves of murderers.

Vigilantist killing (killing within society for some moral vengeance/purpose) is wrong because there's no oversight or due process that's consistent across society, therefore a society should resist this and punish these perps.

Killing can actually be quite beneficial to a society though, as long as that killing is focused on out-groups. You see this in human nature where people will be sickened by the idea of murdering someone close to them but if you label the target as an enemy and demonize them, then you can convince a society to justify murder. Most people will justify killing an attacker in a self-defense situation. So, obviously killing is not inherently bad. The very fact that people can't differentiate between killing and murder shows you how worthless most opinions on this subject are.

I make my moral arguments from the position of benefiting society, obviously. Most people just don't like killing because they're conditioned and actually have no arguments (welcome to 2017 /pol btw).

Creating your own morality then asserting it is absolute truth and nobody can change it because it's true.

what gives you the right to kill some random person for no reason?

>Never kill anyone
>get eviscerated by a nigger

Oh we're back here are we?

Idk, it's fifth on a list of ten so it prolly doesn't matter.

It is if it's not mutual combat.

t.US combat vet sociopath

>what gives you the right

The societal effects of regulated murder is in effect civilization itself.

Compare civilized nations and you find high law abiding social mores and a lack of hand chopping for theft and murder as punishment. These civilizations have done much better than the tribal opposite, so it's self-evident it's better.

However, it also leaves a gigantic loophole. What if you suddenly put a bunch of people raised with tribal morality and a lack of faith in civilization, in such a country? Well, you find out most of the reason the laws work is just that people follow them by instinct.

Right now we have such a crime upswing it's impossible for our cops to deal with cases. We need to double the police force just to cope. What this should tell you is that previously our society needed next to no policing, because it was a homogenous society where people didn't need a substantial threat to follow the rules. With the inclusion of non-civilized peoples, that is upended.

I know, right? What a bitch.

Because reciprocity is the basis of society.

because it is rude desu

Yes. Mutual combat is reciprocal.

it is not. it depends

It's a societal stigma, not a natural one. Animals don't give a single fuck about their prey in nature.

because of jail.

so many issues would be solved if it weren't for that.

Wish you'd stay a while

>666
i take that back sorry Christ-chan

Take Japan. A country that is effectively completely homogeneous. The crime rates are so low there that Police find themselves enforcing more peculiar laws like "cycling on a footpath" because most of the time there is very little actual crime.

In Western Europe violent crime is exploding. It's a lot easier to commit crimes against others when you feel you have nothing at all in common with them.

Because most people and their subjective set of morals believe it is. Most people think sometimes it can be justified.

Morality is subjective.

> Humans are not animals, we're robots

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its only bad if the person being killed doesnt consent.

666 is the SYMBOL for man. All humans.

It's not "evil". That's stupid...it's built into the pyramids which predate Christianity by eons.

It's only bad when you kill humans aka white people.

>In Western Europe violent crime is exploding. It's a lot easier to commit crimes against others when you feel you have nothing at all in common with them.

This is a very important point. We spend millions to try to incentivize people to integrate, just to learn the language, and blame ourselves when they don't.

But their little ghettos preach nothing but otherness constantly. They don't WANT to be us. We're just a naive idiot country to be exploited as much as possible.

It's this liberal racism that says of course these savages will thank us for bringing civilization to them and giving them all this. No they won't. They don't see the value, they don't respect us. The second and third generations are MORE violent, MORE radicalized.

Swedish women are virtual nonhumans to them so it doesn't matter what they do, and even if they get caught the justice system is anemic in the rare cases they actually get a conviction.

The only way to fight this is by turning our society into what we don't want it to be. The solution was never letting them in, in the first place. For fucks sake we can't make Swedes out of Polacks, how in the hell could Africans and Arabs integrate?

I said prey specifically, I wasn't stating that animals are totally devoid of compassion. When an individual in the wild is hungry it isn't going to care if something is "cute" or whatever opinionated bullshit. It needs sustenance so it will kill and eat.

"right" is a social construct sweetie, and we need to deconstruct society, remember?

Now off with your neck kike

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself