"Eliminating the planet’s remaining trade barriers would increase global GDP by around $US100 billion. Eliminating immigration barriers, by comparison, would as much as double world income: that is, increase global GDP by $US60 trillion. This added wealth would be shared, but the overwhelming beneficiaries would be people who now live in poor countries."
- Lant Pritchett explains this notion in details in his book: Let Their People Come: Breaking the Policy Deadlock on International Labor Mobility.
"Labor is the world’s most valuable commodity—yet thanks to strict immigration regulation, most of it goes to waste" -Bryan Caplan
From a free-market viewpoint, Open borders for labor have positive outcomes, including an increase in total global incomes, the reduction of international wage differentials, and improvements to the economic efficiency of national and global economies . Equilibrium theory suggests that international labor mobility serves the interests of individual workers, national economies, and the global economy as a whole.
>wanting money over a safe unique country >he thinks money is what Sup Forums wants
you're Jewish
Ayden Mitchell
>What is wealth inequality >What is globalist propaganda
Easton Carter
the one and only truth
Hudson Campbell
>Lant Pritchett explains this notion in details in his book: Let Their People Come: Breaking the Policy Deadlock on International Labor Mobility.
they're not coming to work, they're coming to live off you. if they had anything to contribute they would have already built great countries of their own
Gabriel Nguyen
Open borders is essentially genocide of the native populance
Andrew Gomez
This famalam
Landon Murphy
This guy is the only reply needed for this thread.
Ian Walker
>if they had anything to contribute they would have already built great countries of their own >if they had anything to contribute they would have already built great countries of their own >if they had anything to contribute they would have already built great countries of their own
Andrew Thompson
This webm makes me want to go knife some niggers
Justin Green
0 QoL cities are republican controlled. Really activates my almonds.
Evan Green
It's not worth destroying my people and their future for an improved bottom line on raw earning potential.
You're either a fool, or objectively evil.
Eli Campbell
This.
The African continent needs sterilized end to end along with their diaspora, and Islam needs stamped out.
John Sanchez
> they're not coming to work, they're coming to live off you. if they had anything to contribute they would have already built great countries of their own
This. And we can't move to their countries, get insta citizenship, benefits, special protected class status and their sjws screeching on our behalf.
Kevin King
Because human beings are primitive and have tribal thinking. Because there are cultures that are more barbaric than others that would without a doubt cause chaos when mixed with more civilized societies. Because studies have shown that it's natural to group with one's own race and mass immigration with different races will cause clashes and violence.
Kayden Miller
Highly developed countries are more likely to have knowledge-intensive economies. These kinds of economies are more likely to have higher levels of complementarity between labor.
, immigrants don’t simply shift the supply of labor. Labor is heterogeneous. When the immigrants have different skills than the native-born population, they complement the native-born labor rather than substitute for them. Many of the immigrants to the United States are either extremely highly-skilled or very low-skilled. Yet most native-born labor falls somewhere in between. The native-born population makes up around one third of adults in the United States without a high school diploma. A large portion of new Ph.D.s is awarded to foreign-born people. To the extent that immigrants are complementing U.S. labor, they can increase, rather than decrease, the wages of the native-born.
Hunter Wright
makes me laugh at the stupid cunts who frequent nigger cafes.
Robert Reyes
Yeah, and having 24 roommates would lower my rent, fuck off with this bullshit
Oliver Diaz
I thought the increase in GDP only benefited those at the top, and the incoming immigrants. However, the host population, specifically lower class would ultimately lose.
Joshua Lewis
but we aren't white
Christian Ramirez
>"hurr durr Increasing the GDP through MASS IMMIGRATION will improve the quality of life™"
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF GLOBALISTS AKA RETARDS!
Anthony Hill
Fuck off, shill. Or leave your Left wing Echo chamber for once and visit one of Europe's "culturally enriched" parts.
Noah James
generally yes, because of simple supply/demand.
more immigrants means more workers competing for jobs.
more (poor) immigrants still get welfare, but they still buy cheap shit with their welfare like soap, cheap food, daily life stuff.
So if you're the CEO of joe's soap company, more immigrants means more people available to hire so you can pay them less.
It also means that more people are buying your soap, so increased profits...at the expense of the taxpayer footing the welfare bill.
then bernouts complain about income inequality and muh $15/hr
Kevin Gomez
Poverty used to be seen as an admirable thing during medieval times in Europe. Many pious and devote men would give up all their posessions and devote their lives to spirituality. Where in the West do you see this today? Nowhere. Poverty today is universally seen as a bad thing, because our culture is dangerously obsessed with the accumulation of material wealth. If we see a poor person we tell him to get a job, as if that was the main goal of life, to work just to feed yourself. In India, a country which still has a healthy spiritual culture, the people willingly give food to yogis (people who forgo material wealth for a spiritual life of meditation) and yogis are held in very high esteem and seen as important pillars of society, they give spiritual advice to the younger generation. Where in the West can this type of tradition be found? We've sold our souls to the devil in exchange for smartphones. RIP the West.
Dylan Morgan
That is not as clear cut as you make it seem, the vast majority would see benefit from immigrant services and more choices and opportunities. I would like to continue tending this thread but do more research and you'll see why but I'll leave you with this
Many signatories of the Open Borders Manifesto are practicing economists. Surveys of economists have repeatedly shown that a majority of economists favor more open borders compared to current legal regimes or popular opinion.
the results of the Survey of Americans and Economists on the Economy. The survey asks: Regardless of how well you think the economy is doing, there are always some problems that keep it from being as good as it might be. I am going to read you a list of reasons some people have given for why the economy is not doing better than it is. For each one, please tell me if you think it is a major reason the economy is not doing better than it is, a minor reason, or not a reason at all. (0 = Not a reason at all”; 1 = “Minor reason”; 2 = “Major reason”)
Question 4 of the survey asks people to rate the reason “There are too many immigrants” to which Americans gave a mean response of 1.22 with standard deviation 0.78 whereas economists gave a mean response of 0.20 with standard deviation 0.43.
Adam Russell
>increase global GDP by around $US100 billion
HOLY SHIT, AN ENTIRE 0.1%?!?!?!?!?!
Matthew Jenkins
pretty cool appeal to authority you've got there
Austin Morris
Globalists are fucking branlets! >"hey, let's turn our first world countries in the third world so that the GDP will grow be 0.1% and while we're at it let's make everyone wage slaves as well!"
How can anyone eat their shit?
Parker Sanchez
>Why are people so much against open borders when free immigration is the number one aleviator of poverty in the world? Why are you so against unlocked doors for your house when it's the number one way to make your neighbours richer ?
Caleb Bell
A better question is how does artificially restricting mutually beneficial exchanges between consenting parties make us richer?
Noah Morris
GDP goes up on paper Banks make more money
Quality of life and actual wages go down for everyone Crime and other costs go up, taxes go up to pay for it Almost everyone is poorer, more unhappy and lives worse lives before open borders
Bentley Fisher
>Believing neo-liberal (((economists)))
Read Ha-Joon Chang's "Bad Samaritans" and realize how wrong you are.
Landon Gutierrez
Highly developed countries are more likely to have knowledge-intensive economies. These kinds of economies are more likely to have higher levels of complementarity between labor.
Xavier White
People in developed countries are in a better position to experience theglobal benefitsof open borders and capture a larger share of these locally. For instance, if immigrants provide the labor, capital, and entrepreneurship to set up a new business that caters to a global market, many of the benefits to consumers are global, but some of the benefits of the economic activity are concentrated in the area where the business was set up.
Benjamin Cruz
>Here's the proof
Presents theory, calls it proof. Wow. Such robust science.
Easton Williams
No because they can now buy cheap TVs and microwaves so it doesn't matter that they're being replaced.
Ayden Brooks
>if immigrants provide the labor, capital, and entrepreneurship
They will only supply the labor.
Alexander Peterson
>evidence based So no Judith butler?
Cameron Nguyen
I read the first chapter and the concept of opportunity cost of protections for their car industry, that same spending could have been used to support a hundred other industries.
Creating industries does not make people richer, getting goods from point A to point B with as minimal cost as possible makes people richer
David Ward
>No because they can now buy cheap TVs and microwaves
Hooray. The government can buy my new microwave with the welfare I'll now be forced to accept.
Ethan Hughes
>Measuring the health of a society by prioritizing metrics pushed by large corporation. >Redpilled.
Lol.
Lincoln Sullivan
i can believe there has been 32 answer to this shit,that of course i dont even read ,fuck you all
Cameron Cruz
>Norhtern Approach
Asher Stewart
Even anti immigrant economists dont deny that immigrants have a positive effect. Adam Smith has won this argument.
Cameron Cooper
Labor mobility is at direct loggerheads with the looming "automation crisis", is it not?
Caleb Brown
It's logical deduction and we have had historical precedence of this happening in Early America and recently with the creation of the Single Market Schengen Area. When Differential prices and wages from segregated markets reach an equilibrium you get more consumer and producer surplus and therefore higher social welfare
Alexander Turner
This is a map of the Western bloc from the Cold War. The world looks very different today. For one, greece is a poor garbage hole, and most of the former communist countries are very wealthy.
Cameron Cooper
Eliminating trade barriers is fine. But immigration? Demographics are destiny. If helping people in other countries means destroying our own, then foreigners can get fucked.
>Even anti immigrant economists dont deny that immigrants have a positive effect.
Says you. Nice appeal to nonexistent authority.
Jayden Jones
Pic related
Jackson Martin
>100billion positive >meanwhile us government spends trillions per year
eat shit, nigger
Nathan Turner
SPBP
Gabriel Kelly
Even this totally underestimates the demographic problem, as non-whites who claim to support small government still vote Democrat.
Caleb Cook
and im telling these son of a bitches, that america is the land of legitamte buisness you stupid dumb nigger i hope you choke on a waternelon you dirt coon ill fucking kill you and your family if you ever even try and cross me bro ill fuck your daughter and your son i dont care motherfucker ill kill you dead you stupid dumb bastard i hope you get fucking rhinoceros aids
Colton Ramirez
Money isn't everything. Fuck off nigger Jew.
Aaron Fisher
Assuming for a moment that there's truth to this: What if the population of new arrivals is culturally and politically hostile towards the native population? What if the intent of the new immigrants is the eventual erasure of everything the natives hold nearest and dearest, and to ultimately replace the natives in their communities and institutions and for the new arrivals to evict and reconstruct as they see fit? Or is wealth your biggest concern?
Jace Barnes
>EVERYONE Nice try shlomo.
Jayden Bailey
>America >white
Blake Ward
>OPEN BORDERS MAKES EVERYONE RICHER THIS IS THE TRUE REDPILL translates into >does not understand that money is created ex nihilo
Jaxon Watson
spbp go live with your niggers kike.
Owen Thomas
I don't think he cares, as long as the total economic production in the world increases.
Sebastian Perry
Migrants send 500 billion to their home countries from Belgium alone, I cant image what it would be for the rest of Europe let alone the world. >MAKES EVERYONE RICHER No it doesnt.
Noah Brooks
>500 billion correction half billion.
Justin Lewis
It just means niggers invade my swamp and the nanny state wants rid of me because I don't vote for it. Rather have a job myself, thank you very much.
Jonathan Price
What you fail to realize is that we want them to be poor, preferably in their own countries. They can have our surplus poor, for that matter.
James Kelly
Oh, and can we swap the Czech Republic and Slovenia for Israel? Less stress that way.
Colton Reed
By everyone you mean the (((rich))) I presume?
Joshua Cox
HOLY SHIT ITS NOT ABOUT GDP I DONT WANT TO HAVE MY SOVEREIGNTY UNDERMINED BY GLOBAL INSTITUTIONS I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GDP
Do you unironically believe you need more cheap plastic crap? Please kill yourself this is a fucking slide thread
John Price
DISinFO plz go.
Jordan Stewart
It's not a redpill at all. We had a report about immigrants in Norway and the economy. It said that even immigrants that work cost money. They do more harm while they work than good. Africans don't work, the poles do pretty shitty work. They say: "Yes" to everything, even if they don't understand what you said or wanted, making them extremely scary to have in our workforce. The middleeasterns are creeps. Rapists, drug lords, assholes that want to impose their culture on the country they move to as it's their own. Fuck them all, norway for norwegians.
Christian Lopez
Explain the economics of a “knowledge-based economy” pro tip it makes zero sense so you cant
Mason Bell
That's what you get for having a welfare state
Elijah White
Education increases productivity, but I did not say knowledge based
William King
People like op are the goodest goys. They don't understand the common man won't be getting richer. It's all ok though if Mr shekelstein gets trillions more. It will trickle down surely.
Xavier Hernandez
You know what else increases GDP productivity??
Money printing!! Hooray, quantitative easing is all we need, why do we even work when we can just borrow money for 0% or negative interest?
You're welcome. That's 7+ years of economics PhD degree in finance and bsns. Seriously. That's what ur actually suggesting if you read into it.
Charles Walker
GDP backed by actual purposeful action and production is what increases social welfare
Aiden Cruz
WRONG The number of people in the Labour market makes the eCONomy grow. However this equation does not equal prosperity for the majority. >A Ponzi scheme relies on large numbers of participants. >A Ponzi scheme cannot grow and amass more profits for the founder unless more and more participants enter the Pyramid scam. (((Globlism))) operates as one huge Ponzi scam. This is why Jews are continually telling Europe it needs immigrants from the third world. Lower western birth rates should not equate to a poorer nation, it should just equal a SMALLER economy. The amount of people and therefore participants in the workforce can half etc, as long as their production meets the requirements of the population size. More people only means more pressure on infrastructure and services and a worse environment for everyone, all crammed in into of each other in a dysfunctional (((multi cultural))) nightmare. The reason we (((need))) continual eCONomic growth and more people, is to ensure there are more and more worker drones driving more and more shekels up river.
Kayden Peterson
Haha, I think you've been learning virtual theoretical economics. Back on earth we expand personal and corporate welfare every day to increase a vague aggregation of cherry picked data that we call GDP. Basically more Indians = more profitable for you, aren't you richer now than u were a year ago?
If gov spending goes down any amount or credit uptake slows even slightly we're all in recession. So it's either more of this, or recession. No other choices.
Jaxson Gray
This is not a redpill. This is unbriddled-capitalism masquerading as mass-appeal and ideological communist nonsense.
Christian Sanchez
Shitload of white Latinos, 30 million blacks and 200 million mutts. No thank you
Jeremiah Edwards
>increase global GDP by $US60 trillion. >This added wealth would be shared, but the overwhelming beneficiaries would be people who now live in poor countries." >This added wealth would be shared Weak bait. You forgot about the jews, banks and big corporations that would in fact be the ones taking this money in.
Joshua Jones
You guys fail to grasp the concept of comparative advantage. Everyone will be recieving the comparative advantage of immigrants and you will be able to improve your performance and productivity in your comparative advantage. The end result is more choices, more purchasing power, more opportunities for advancement.
If you own property prepare to gain a fortune. You could use your new found wealth to move or vacation to somewhere you like or whatever. Whatever, reasons you are against it better be pretty severe or else cost benefit analysis says you should be for it.
Nicholas Howard
There's nothing to grasp. Importing more citizens allows them to take on debt, that increases the GDP and artificially increase demand for at least housing.
Why not just print money and hand it out to everyone? Or go with bernakes idea and throw cash out of helicopters over populated areas.
Why warm the globe by moving 3rd worlders around the place we can get the same result by bailing out everyone in the usa?
Yanks are big and fat, I think it's time to accept that every yank is too big to fail and treat them accordingly. Pretending there's some deeper wisdom to Keynesian economics is like pretending star wars has a deep story.
We could also just make up the numbers entirely too, the only limitation is your imagination!
T. Economic black belt
Asher Howard
The problem is culture.
Most of the reasons for spending even at large scale are cultural and emotion based.
Brandon Reyes
money will have no value in the future when the people useing it are so stupid from all the third worlders and racemixing that they don’t know the difference between a $1 and $20. If you want a simplified version of that future, look at Zimbabwe.
Nathan Peterson
Therefore, we can deduce the following (adding knowledge gained since 2011) 1. Mexico and S American countries are shit. We know this because their people have mass exodused here due to their countries are shit. 2. All Hispanics love MOrE government 3. We should do the opposite of what Hispanics do.
Brandon Rivera
Culture is a phenotypic expression of ethnicity/race.
Anthony Torres
P E R K E L E E R K E L E R K E L E K E L E E L E L E E
Thumbs up my bäadeë
Mason Powell
>open borders makes everyone richer
Daniel Scott
>OPEN BORDERS
Yeah, basically lets turn best places to live into shitholes with out resistance.
Hunter Brooks
100 billion to the global gdp is a drop in the bucket. means nothing and the decline of 1st world nations would be expedited. france has seen nothing from its immigration aside from increased terrorism and crime
drops in tourism in germany confirmed since the arrival of the new comers and the UN says sweden will be a 3rd world country soon
i know its hard to hear pedro but your just some dirty brown guy with no place in the world but your little back water shit hole of a nation
Jackson Johnson
>oh boy more plants in my garden! Sure I may have just flooded it with useless weeds - but those numbers don't lie!
Brayden Taylor
>better yet, GDP is merely a gauge of transactions taking place! Let's make computers hand each other cash at 100k per second!
Juan Long
There's no reciprocity. The West has a trade deficit of trillions. They are not consenting if one part has already said NO