National Socialism

Why couldn't National Socialism defeat Communism and Democracy?

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It was vastly outnumbered

Judaism and incompetent Italians.

German authorities often were using memeflags, so everyone considered them faggots and didn`t want to hang out with.

it almost did

but hitler got cocky and rushed it

because its an economically inefficient system

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they declared war on them because it was too efficient and a menace.

Hitler should have listened to his fucking generals

Fuck off

Hitler thought it was a great idea to steal Jewish gold to power his gpd. Once the moment started to run out he stole more gold and engaged in a three front war with the rest of the world loosing so hard that german culture is slowly killing itself as we speak.

Because there were too meany commies and fucking democrats.

>why couldn't one country defeat the world's three largest empires

The amazing thing is that one country held out for so long. That fact alone is a powerful endorsement of National Socialism.

Not enough bullets

Hitler was dumb and invaded Russia.

They were then outnumbered and out-funded 10-1 by USSR and US.

STOP THE RETARDED FUCKING RUSSIA MEME. THE REASON HE LOST WAS BECAUSE OF AMERISHARTS LIKE YOU.

Jewish trickery and Russian bodies.

Also Italians should have got the chamber too.

That gold was stolen from ze German people.

This. And also insufficient access to strategic ressources.

Because Russians always win, no matter the system they are under

Asians always outnumber Whites. When Whites fight each other the other races win.

>this thread

Vastly outnumbered, and Hitler didn't listen to his generals

>Hitler was dumb and invaded Russia
This again?

The number of soldiers you lose in war is not directly correlated to the contribution you made.

Exactly but the mutt will never understand this anyway

Because a Nazi was only worth about 15 commies and about 5 western soldiers each. Not an infinite number. Couldn't hold off the zerg rush.

>they declared war on them
I guess poland never got invaded aye

Socailism in all forms is destined to fail and bring ruin to a country. Scarcity exists and will always exist and socialism ignores this very simple fact.

Why not post the statistics for entire war?
Axis troops killed 1.3 Soviet soldiers for one Axis death, when you exclude POWs (who were exterminated) and civilian casualties.
Germans and Soviets counted losses differently, that's why these battle statistics are so lopsided. Same with equipment loses, a tank which suffers engine break is ''lost'' to Soviets, but Germans didn't even count disabled tanks as lost, as long as they could be recovered or even re-purposed if damage was significant.
Furthermore, Axis had manpower advantage during most of war (until Ukraine and Belarus were recovered, and parts of Russia), German labor force alone was as big as Soviet, and more qualified, and on top of this Germans used around same number of slave laborers, which practically doubled their workforce.
In other crucial strategic resources like steel, aluminum, coal Germans outproduced Soviets in like 3 to 1 or even 5 to 1 ratios.
So sorry, it wasn't ''not enough bullets'', it was severely underestimating your opponent, getting lost in operational success while ignoring strategic picture, and just the general ineffectiveness of Nazi regime.
They practically lost the chance for victory in front of Moscow in late 1941. That was before Lend-Lease or any other bullshit you people mention played a significant role.

FDR gave some money to the Soviets yes. That was more important than the Russian winters and the capability of the Russians to throw away millions of lives? No.

Also Hitler was greedy af. Why did he need shitty ass Russia for? He had all of Europe already and the might still have it had he not been so greedy and dumb.

Here you go

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Bad allies and the numbers were heavily stacked against them.
Still being able to put the planet on its knees and permanently traumatize it is proof of strenght to me desu.

According to Otto Carius, 5 Russians were worth as much as 30 Americans in combat. So much for your insight.
And what ''zerg rush''? Do you even know what ''zerg rush'' means?
Germans were the ones who were ''zerg rushing'', because they faced unprepared opponents.
There's nothing wrong with ''zerg rush''.
Soviets were more prepared in material sense compared to rest, but they were crippled by Stalin's purges, his insistence that Germans won't attack, and retarded mobilization and defense plans, plus horrible logistics.
Germans should thank Stalin first and foremost for early success of Barbarossa.
Exactly. And those military deaths for Soviets count 3 million prisoners of war who were not killed in combat, but in extermination camps.
So it's around 7 million to 5 million (not counting Germans who later died in Soviet captivity).
Hardly ''not enough bullets'' and other bullshit.

not a bif fan of national socialism but of the german population.
imagine it took almost all the countries in the world to defeat germany.
TWO FUCKING TIMES

>literally has the data
>still uses ''not enough bullets'' meme
I don't get it, are you trolling or what?

Stalin invaded many surrounding countriesbefore we attacked them and he was planing on taking over europe
Hitler was trying to safe europe from commie takeover you faggot
And you did not only gave weapons and money one of the importants parts was that you helped them build 100s of war factories for them because they were too incompetent to build them alone

The early days of ideologies start with hardship and failure. Christianity took hundreds of years to become more than a cult. The fact that the nazis got so close to global domination within such a short amount of time shows the power in National Socialism.

They were busy holocausting jews.
A more serious anwer would be - not enough bullets. They were lacking steel and some other metals required to keep things going.
So much so that many parts of the StG had to be made of non conventional materials.

>but hitler got cocky and rushed it
He had been diagnosed by dr morell with rapid coronary sclerosis (morels diary was found in an archive), this is why he started rushing.

Pretty much this. If the Fuhrer would have been more constrained, the outcome may have been quite different.

No it didn't. Not in WW2.
By the time ''most of world'' declared war on Germany, Germany was already beaten.
Stalin invaded those countries in a deal with Hitler.
>planing on taking over Europe
As in, concrete plans for invasions and such?
Nope, such thing never existed.
They were lacking some strategic materials, true.

Hitler should've stayed content with the post-1919 borders. He upset the balance of power in Europe and was shocked to learn that nations look out for their own interests

England and France declared war on Germany after destroying every attempt for peace between Poland and Germany.

Poland should not have been exterminating Germans, maybe they wouldn't have been fucked in the ass otherwise.

because it was 1 versus all, it never had a chance to begin with, even more with Einstein joining the US, that sealed their destruction even if they took the the invasion hit from both sites supported by countless of army's of different countries.

>it was too efficient
>implying the allies couldn't just adopt similar economic policies if this were true

Sure thing schlomo. I see you are a nufag. Here have a redpill

I dont trust commie numbers and “extermination“ yeah sure
We weren't monsters like commies or allies we didn't came after civilians most of the 20million + commie kills were mostly soldiers and their own incompetence blamed on us

Italian shit skins let the Germans down

>the Allies
>telling their jewish bankers to fuck off and die
Pick one.

>implying the money lenders would allow such a thing

Yes sure they existed just like generalplan ost existed but i guess you believe this one was real right .....
Stalin took at the end all of east europe you know if he was such a good guy he could gave them free but nooo?

Too many enemies, too few allies. Tried to do too much too fast without getting anyone else really on board. Fucked over too many people who should have been allied with them. It takes some special fucking up skill to get Communist Russia and the Democratic/Capitalist US-Britain bloc to ally against you.

If the Nazis were to have made Soviet Communism the real enemy, get the western allies on-board fighting it, and treat everyone nicely until after they had secured political control of the area, then things might have turned out very differently.

i never understood why the USA supported Britain so heavily. can anybody explain.

that was the problem

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FDR wanted to end the British Empire so the USA could take it's place.

In exchange for help against Hitler, the UK had to start giving up overseas colonies.

and some other stuff as well. For example, many Americans were of british ancestry.

It was ganged up on
Hitler didn't know the extent that zog ruled the world

The only way to root out these kikes is international coordinated action

real answer: Strong alliance between the two throughout (post-revolution) history
(((real))) answer: Same Jew owners/goals influencing US politics as were in Britain

Death defeated all of them.

Usa never cared about europe they fucked the uk and france really hard in the ass for indebting them while they got rich and destroying the empires as a result so they could steal all the power
They were the mayor anti colonie supporter too
America played them and at the end they were the global superpower while england and france got more and more irrelevant

I know it's obviously true but can I read through good statistics on this somewhere?
Gleiðileg Jól.

Does it matter who won when both died?

Here have some numbers

>commie numbers
Even commies need accurate numbers. These are numbers from Soviet archives, which weren't publicly accessible.
>We weren't monsters like commies or allies
You weren't, some Germans in that period were.
>we didn't came after civilians
Yes they did.
>GPO
Existence of GPO as a document is irrelevant, since it was put into practice. See Hunger Plan, Intelligenzaktion, Hitler's orders for what is to be done after Leningrad is seized, and so on.
It's not just ''commie propaganda'', there's shitload of first-hand accounts coming from German soldiers who wrote home, or talked to people.
>good guy
No one sane ever implied Stalin was a ''good guy''.
He was a dreadful person, worse than Hitler in some ways.
However, Stalin didn't start a massive conflict that led to 50 million deaths, and he didn't plan to exterminate and enslave hundreds of millions.
That's why Stalin is seen in better light, even though no one denies he was a murderous dictator.

Take off meme flag, everyone from that time is dead, there was no victory for any of them.

Bro, since WW2 ended it's all the west talks about.
Nobody is allowed to forget it and there is still a ton of supressed butthurt over it.

>both die
>i will die
>im supposed to care about some dead when we all die

Then why don't you just kill yourself and be done with it?

We were actually viewed as liberators but nobody said the same about commies

Yep, whites+whites is not enough to get rid of the Jews, because too many whites support Jews. You would need Asians and Arabs to join in.

Its not my problem, we all die and ALL Jews from that time are dead, Hitler and all Germans from time are dead, all of them "genocided".

We were right an many euros think the same

for some odd reason people don't like it when you invade their country

1.) Winter
2.) Italians
3.) Hitler playing army
4.) "Lol, let's just declare war on America because 'Aryans of the East."
5.) Didn't take Moscow when given the chance
6.) Thought they could teach Jews to not be Jews

because its shit

You Italians were literally the down fall of hitlers victory over the western and North African front. He had to send Rommel to save you faggots.

It doesen't matter what your ideology is, the one who can produce most stuff that kills the enemy wins.

>Leaf
>actually using a not real socialism defense
>calling anyone new

Why aren't you using a meme flag, like the rest of your bretheren?

But Hitler won western front until Soviets started pushing them back and Americans arrived. Also Rommel lost too, he didn't save anyone.

National Socialism is as socialist as the DPRK is democratic

why are there so many christcuck national socialists? Hitler hated christianity

Took pretty much every country to stop it.

That is a beautiful webm

>Nazis actually believe this
Fuck off, Nazi Germany was a socialist nation
Prove to me it wasn't
oh wait
you cant

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TIL user calls international private enterprises socialism

>DURRR some guy on Sup Forums said it so I'm right and youre wrong!!

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It probably could, but not both at the same time.

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>why couldn't leftists beat leftists
ever wonder why the US turned from a commie hating machine into a liberal cesspool? maybe taking in all those nazi and soviet (((intellectuals))) wasn't such a good idea...

Because Germany was a technologically and industrially backwards nation as were its allies. As much as I dislike fascism the reason fascism in general and national socialism in particular failed isn't due to the ideology (well except perhaps due to starting wars they couldn't win), the reason they lost is because they lacked the population, industry, or technology to win the war.
>But muh German mustard race
Germany was behind the allies in most fields of technology including nuclear weapons, infantry weapons, tanks, anti-tank munitions, airframe design, radar, ship design, and sub design. The only two fields they led in were jet engines (which the allies were pretty much tied with them) and rocketry because nobody really gave a shit about it except Germany.
>But muh German efficiency
Germany wasn't efficient and lacked the sheer volume of industry to match the allies, for comparison looking at tanks and self propelled artillery the UK, US, and USSR produced 48k, 108k, and 106k respectively, while the juggernaut known as Germany produced a mere 67k. When you look at all vehicles excluding the aforementioned types the UK, US, USSR, and Germany produced 1.5 million, 2.4 million, 197k, and 505k respectively meaning for every truck Germany produced the US and UK shat out a combined 7-8 trucks of their own. When it comes to aircraft the allies combined outproduced the axis combined by about 3 to 1, when it comes to ships the allies outproduced the Axis by about 5 to 1.

Not really. It was United Europe vs USSR. USSR won.

False and False.

>meme flag
Opinion discharged
Read some books you butt

>The number of soldiers you lose in war is not directly correlated to the contribution you made.

That's true. But in any case, the main reason why Germany lost is because the USSR crushed them, and that was 70% of WW2.

>My only argument is that you are using an anarchist flag instead of an American flag
Ah yes I forgot Germans were really using UFOs and supersonic fighters and had impenetrable tanks that could kill enemies from 4 kilometers away and due to German efficiency they outproduced the allies in tanks, and had the atom bomb for years but never used it because of superior Aryan morality. The only reason Germany lost was because of Jewish mind tricks.