FMA:B

In the end, was Greed /our guy/?
I just finished FMA:B, let's have a thread
by the way the ending wasn't very good

dumb template poster, fuck off to Sup Forums

i just want to talk about an anime i finished
would you rather have me talk about Lucoa's breasts in the OP instead

The story structure and the Ending are things objectively better than the 2003 series

Also the animation and art.

That was my biggest complaint with Brotherhood. I was impressed with how well they were able to structure things together at the start of the show, but holy shit did it take a nosedive at some point.

The feeling of 'anyone can die' that I felt at the start basically disappeared with Jean Havoc coming back to life, too.

I'll probably check out 2003 at some point this year, but I have to take a break,

Wrong, the 2003 series is objectively better.

>muh shounenshit final battle happy ending
>better

Reminder 2003 is objectively better than Brotherhood.

2003 Greed was cooler. Best Homunculus.

Greed is best boy

2003 has much better character development than brotherhood.

It's story is all over the goddamn place in the second half to final third and it's end is the drizzling shits

Ending was better in first fma anime minus Nazi movie

Aren't the Homunculi in general supposed to be more interesting in FMA 2003?

I like the dark tone in 2003 more, but I was not happy with the direction the show took.

>ending was better incomplete

this

That ending still was better than the literally "I slit my wrists these wounds will not heal" ending of the 2003 anime.

Well most of them anyway

Personally I think brotherhood wrath is better than 2003 pride.

Nope
B Pride>2003 Wrath>2003 Pride>B Wrath

>Brotherhood Wrath
>bottom of the list
Objectively wrong

I actually prefer the 03 artstyle but my god does it look like shit in motion

It's 100% average. Not amazing, not shitty, just alright.

I think the ending drags because it's ~20 episodes of schemes and backstabs that are really straight-forward and bland, then suddenly it time skips and ends with a shounen battle royale.

But I got exactly what i expected, was worth the watch.

>2003 Wrath better than anything

You have to stop

He was boring
Honestly I just can't stand Bradley in general, Brotherhood is the one I remember more so I put that last
Overall it'd be a better series with 2003 Wrath and Brotherhood Pride

This is the worst opinion in the history of opinions.

Fuck off Bradley is great. You're just being contrarian for the sake of it. Literally nobody dislikes Bradley

>Honestly I just can't stand Bradley in general

I wish you would've said this earlier so I could've just given a (you) and be done with your shitty opinion.

More Bradley was the only good thing about Brotherhood.

I feel like a lot of people who think 2003 is better, want it to be better because they feel the story and setting would compliment a darker anime rather than a shounen.

because of this I also think people who say 2003 is better also believe that anime has become more stale and formulaic. like if fma was made today it would probably be in a school setting. so they eamt the unique lore and setting to be used in a darker anime rather than shounen.

King Buradorey was amazing. Almost a perfect template for how you design a proper villain in a series.

Bradley wasn't terrible in Brotherhood, just not notable. He was actually really cool during the Greed fight and the episodes after that, but then he loses literally all of his charm.

I haven't watched 2003, though. Is he better in that?

>Muh perfect ending is the only way to end the series
>An ending that makes you think and actually makes sense if you figure why they chose that path is apparently shit

Kay then

>but then loses all of his charm
Yeah because he fucking died soon afterward. Between the Greed fight and his death he had maybe five episodes

Wasn't very good? I loved watching Father get his fucking ass handed to him by Ed.

Why do people like Bradley?
Brotherhood was annoying when he never shuts the fuck up and gets asspulled back to life a million times
Because he was fast?
Mustang was cool when he healed himself and killed Lust, Bradley was just overpowered and boring

Bradley in my opinion was just a fun character.

Even though he had potential and they pretty much written him out in a shitty way, he just mainly had a much better personality in 2003.

His power is to literally avoid death. Him surviving all the shit being thrown at him makes perfect sense within the show's internal logic

I wanted 2003 to be better because it had alot more going on. The mom being a homonculus, the kid with ed's body parts, envy being another brother, etc.

It's disappointing they had so much material to work with and then just killed everyone off and made a shitty nazi movie

2003 Envy or Brotherhood Envy?

Between the first greed fight and the final episode, he had a solid ten episodes he popped up in, especially towards the end where he "dies", comes back, "dies", comes back, does a bunch of evil shit, then gets killed by Scar. At least in Brotherhood. Like I said, haven't watched 2003 yet.

That... sounds like a much better premise.

Sure was a much better Sloth than the Brotherhood version, actually showing realistic Sloth qualities instead of HURR DURR IM LAZY!

She*

The one where he turns into a giant green monster of course
You just want another evil milf don't you?
But yeah she's a better character

>Yfw

hot

Is this bait? She has nothing to do with Sloth. Her water powers are lame and the name "Juliet Douglas" is retarded.

The only good thing about 2003 Sloth is her origin.

Brotherhood Bradley wasn't my favorite character, but the whole Wrath plot-twist was pretty fun to watch for a moment. The rest of his character just devolved into,

>"SCAR! SCAR! LOOK OVER HERE! DO YOU SEE HOW MUCH OF AN ANTI-SJW I AM?"

no I think its because it turns out he mostly was just a puppet for father. and I think it implied that most of the ideas came from father a villain who sat on his ass for most of his appearance, that pissed me off

> especially towards the end where he "dies", comes back, "dies", comes back
no he doesn't.
the ones get repeatedly "killed" and then revive are envy,lust, and gluttony.

...what?

Shows up at the end of episode 55, dies in 61. That means he had seven episodes. So really we're both sort of correct since seven is about the average of our estimates

Probably the most memorable part of the movie. Even 2003 Gluttony was better.

You misunderstand what I was saying by "dying". He "dies" once on the train, and then once again he "dies" by being watered to death. People think he's dead, not that he's actually dying and coming back.

I hate this little shit. Worst homunculus, even worse than 2003 Wrath.

I remember getting pretty sad when Gluttony just lost all reason for being when Lust was killed.

>FMA Thread
>2003 v. Brotherhood cancer
everytime. I'll be back in the Dragon Ball threads if you need me.

>ANTI-SJW

Oh fuck off. Keep your western shit off my animu.

Super is shit and GT is kino.

oh. I forgot about the water death one need to rewatch that. but didnt he know there was a bomb on the train and jumped out before he explodes? cause that's why he still had his entire uniform on
I need to rewatch that scene too.

The train is blown up and then later on, during the attack on Central, we find out that Bradley had, after the train's detonation, had simply used his magic eye to find an escape route while the train was collapsing on the bridge.

It's not even about that, reading comprehension.

What I meant was Bradley kept preaching to Scar in the most cringey way possible in order to try and provoke him, but Scar ignored him the entire battle.

>reading comprehension

No. It had nothing to do with being a SJW or whatever you're trying to imply. Yes, King Bradley was trying to provoke him, but in a more he was the one who made Scar's life a living hell and laugh it in your face way. Stop throwing meme words around if you don't know how to use them.

so what was it again? the powers or the personality reflected the sin of the homunculi?

>greed= greedy + super shield
>lust= sexy body + super sword
>gluttony=fat body+ has a sonic stomach move
>envy= morph
>sloth= built body+ mentally slow+ super speed
>pride= the oldest sin, child's body+ darkness
>Wrath= pretty chill and calm person+ future eye
I mean gluttony and envy's powers reflect the sin.
lust doesn't sleep around or has some charm power like a succubus.
I mean for half them the author purposely made them act as their sin, as shown by gluttony but the other half the author made them the opposite of their sin as father was pretty chill.

I always wanted more screentime for Ling desu.

I really wish Ling and Greed had more interaction with each other in Brotherhood, especially with how well they complimented eachother thematically. I'd be fine with them cutting out half of the excess characters if it meant more screentime for them.

Sloth (the sin) is defined as not using your abilities and talents to their fullest extent and letting them go to waste. Sloth had the strongest and fastest body out of the homunculi but actively chose not to use that body to defend himself, reflecting his suicidally lazy nature

Those two had me going sometimes. I miss this anime. I never watched the 2003 anime but loved Brotherhood

ok I get it now. but does that still count , I mean I think he was legit mentally gone.

you should. while you might like brotherhood more and don't like 2003 you will still appreciate the differences in either directing. colors, themes, animation and much more. I mean thats what I did with HXH. didnt regret it

I thought the ending of Brotherhood was fantastic. It's one of those ends that gets me super pumped every time I watch it.

To be absolutely fair, I still think the plot armor on the main characters was a bit too strong. But still, very satisfying end.

When he first appeared I thought he'd be an annoying shit character, but he ended up being pretty damn likable. Most of Brotherhood's cast is, I guess Arakawa has a knack to writing lovable characters.

It was the 'lol happy ending' trope taking to it's logical fucking extreme. The first half of the series has more character death than the last half. Hell, I don't think any main character besides Greed even died in the last ten episodes

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>Why do people like Bradley?
I love him when he btfo religion

>I don't think any main character besides Greed even died in the last ten episodes

I literally just watched that episode and I forgot about him. That's... that's embarassing

>ol happy ending' trope taking to it's logical fucking extreme
so happy endings are a trope now?
so basically you don't like happy endings?
>I don't think any main character besides Greed even died in the last ten episodes
>greeed
>main character
no

I can understand how people would have a problem with the ending, I admit fully it's not perfect. I'm personally a sucker for happy endings though. And FMA:B gave me one of the few anime endings where I actually feel satisfied where the story stopped.

But yeah like I said, the plot armor is fucking silly in the last 1/3 of the series. Technically King Bradley, that dude from fort Briggs and that old ninja guy also die during those last ten episodes but yeah I was expecting there to be a little more in the way of consequences. Hell, even Mustang gets his eyes back.

Man, HohenHeim's story had my heart strings pulling. I wish they spent more time developing his character and not just his back story.

>Feeels

There's a difference between a happy ending and a happy ending that is so unbelievably tropey it causes physical pain. Literally EVERYTHING goes right and EVERYTHING is fixed. Mustang's eyes are back, Ed and Al get their bodies back, Scar is all buddy buddy, yada yada yada

Lust was able to get through to anything with her sexy, sexy body. Her claws reflected that.
Greed was uncompromising and unstoppable in his obsessions and had the body to match.
Gluttony wasn't a sonic stomach move, he could simple consume everything in front of his faux-portal in his stomach.
Envy is pretty clear.
Sloth was extremely strong and fast but never wanted to use his abilities to their fullest extent.
Wrath responded to his enviroment with his observation.
Pride is the original sin with elements of the rest (his darkness powers could pierce anything like Lust, couldn't be pierced like Greed, could consume others like Gluttony, shape itself freely like Envy, were alternative ways for him to see like Wrath, and he had the strongest power but kept to letting others do the work when he could manage it like Sloth)

I mean their design isn't brilliantly engineered but you can cobble together the connections.

Ed's alchemy is gone and his leg too
So is Winry's verginity at the end

Both were the same except for the dragon part and being edward half brother. Actually I preferred the outcome of him being the half brother of the elric brothers over brotherhood where he goes out like a jealous fag.

But why does she turn into a boat?

>happy ending that causes physical pain
I really can't get this line of thinking. To me it was just an ending.

No, Ed's leg was already gone. He just got an extra limb. As for the alchemy, fair enough, but apparently that was 'the answer'.

Brotherhood Envy's death was fucking lame. Episode before it was pretty fucking solid, though.

It's hyperbole.

>Brotherhood Envy's death was fucking lame.

What? It was a really emotional cathartic moment , the culmination of the character's arc. Because, you know, he actually had a character arc instead of being lolevilforever.

Brotherhood wrath was a bad-ass, that magic eye shit was OP.

Probably the most OP power in FMA.

>Mustang's eyes are back
don't know where it implied that his eyes being blind were permanent.
>Scar is all buddy buddy
I'm not sure about this but I think it was either jail or servant. but his anger was pretty much cleared up earlier in the series which is why he gave that slight pep talk to mustang about anger and revenge.
>Ed and Al get their bodies back
which was kind of the main goal of the entire series
thank you user.
>Wrath responded to his enviroment with his observation.
I don't get this one. I can see that but I assumed wrath was about anger and the tiniest thing can set them off. or is that its not the sin self that has wrath but cause everyone else wrath?

Na mustang fire alchemy and pride shadows were more op

naw its pride. pride has the most op.
with bradley it was mostly skill

My issue with it was that, despite his arc, which was solid, it was drawn out far too long that the coolness factor was nullified.

I feel like Ultimate Shield is the most powerful, considering how it basically makes Greed invincible. why the fuck didn't he use the full body version while fighting Wrath but when he's slaughtering mooks he's fine with it

Why the fuck wouldn't Mustang's eyes be gone forever?

Sucks brotherhood replace this sexy milf for that giant lazy piece of shit

>Why the fuck wouldn't Mustang's eyes be gone forever?
cause in a series about science magic, it would be weird that he couldn't get eyes back. and would have been extremely retarded that he didn't get his eyes but al and ed got their limbs back.

>Why the fuck wouldn't Mustang's eyes be gone forever
For the same reason Ed and Al's bodies weren't gone forever.

No, Bradley's eye's were literally the whole reason he was so "skilled". The eyes basically made him see every fight in slow motion because of how fast it could process information.

I mean, sure, I understand why they wouldn't actually be gone, but unlike Ed and Al, who had spent the entire series looking for their eyes and actually earning it, Mustang was just sitting there and he got hooked up with new eyes.

Mustang's eyes were physical injuries even if they were sacrificed as part of accessing the gate. The reason Ed and Al didn't finish the series after they find out how to make a stone was because they didn't want to use human resources to restore their bodies, even from a stone that was already made. Mustang lacked that hangup so he just had Dr. Marco fix him right up with the stone Kimblee had from the Ishval war.
Honestly Wrath is the only one I can't really explain well (or really wasn't explained well in general like Lust). He spoke a few times about his quick temper and how everything around him was always pissing him off. His eye was a physical manifestation of that, something that made him aware of everything around him so he could be wrathful.

Would have rather he'd have horrible eyesight and took to wearing eye glasses that looked like Hues.

Did he ever have sex with that cripple bodyguard of his?

is the story/ending the same as the manga in brotherhood?