Were the nazi's going to lose either way?

People always say if it weren't for the soviets stopping them europe would have fall to the nazi regime.

but lets say the soviets didnt mange to stop hitler in stalingrad and continued occouping ussr.
In that case USA had the Atom bomb. They would have dropped it on germany if they weren't willing to surrender.

Yes. the fact is that originally, the atomic bombs were being developed with the idea of using them on The Third Reich. Only Germany surrendered before the Trinity tests could prove the functionality of the weapons.
However, the war with the Japanese Empire was still going, so the decision was made to use them on Japan instead.

Funny thing is japan had already surrendered and we knowing that still dropped the atom bomb on them

Creating a few nukes does not automatically win you the war. You'll be needing many of them for Nazis controlling practically whole Europe, as well as reliable delivery methods.

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A National Socialist Germany would be fortified to the teeth. Anti aircraft galore and also a huge aircraft fleet. Those bombs need an aircraft to get close to drop... they ain’t getting close

Europe not germany*

This. You need a lot of bombers and a lot of nukes to sucessfully land them on Adolf.

They were originally intended to be used on Germany. They used it on Japan instead just to see how effective it would be, and as a message to the Soviets.

ironically enough, if the Nazis had been nice to their Jews and persuaded them to work for the Reich, they would have had the first nuclear weapons and ICBMs and would have been utterly untouchable

Theres a reason why the only people working on the (((Atom bomb))) were Jews. Its a hoax. Nagasaki/Hiroshima were fire bombed, Atom bombs are just large TNT explosions. A way to install fear in the goyim so they never rise up again which is why Israel drones on about its Sansom option and 100s of Nukes.

I always wondered if Japan had not attacked the U.S. and thus causing the U.S. to not enter the war how it would have played out without America involved?

In this case Japan would attack the USSR.

German scientists were the ones who discovered that the atom could be split, that's why the U.S. rushed its nuclear program because they were convinced it was being developed across the Atlantic and they we're indeed very aware but never developed that technology instead they created rocket tech which in itself was a war ending technology if taken further

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This. Einstein literally warned the US govt to hurry the program before Hitler either wins the war or builds a superweapon himself.

That's false though. It was mostly American whites and Germanics working on Trinity too.

Marx and Mussolini talked.

The whole war was a "show' to I still certain memories in the living.

Now WW3, with extinction capabilities, will never happen.

It worked...THAT is why Japanese are honorary.

Not true. The only reason Truman and co could justify using the bomb is due to the Japanese kamikaze spirit. Hitler had tried a dozen times to make peace with Britain and would have done the same with the US. Hitler had no plans to invade N. America despite the bs tv shows you watch.

Japan had its eyes on Australia. Theres no way the US would have allowed that to happen. If they had gained such a foothold it would have been nearly impossible to remove them

The world would be at peace if the UK had a wise leader over the kike puppet churchill
Anglo-German alliance wouldve kept the white race on top of the whole world, but churchill decided to go to war over Poland of all things

Depends on the timeframe. If the soviets would have fallen 1942 the britbongs would be faced with a stronger, bigger German industrial complex allowing to crush them as the last enemy in Europe making a landing or any operations for the US a do or die mission against unbelievable odds. Also new dynamic in Asia because of direct supply lines between Germany and the Japanese over earth.

so what does happen if you manage to shove a load of enriched uranium together into a critical mass in an extremely short period of time? And if nuclear physics is all a psyop how do nuclear power plants work? And what was the tsar bomba?

>In that case USA had the Atom bomb. They would have dropped it on germany if they weren't willing to surrender.

Hoth mentions this situation in reverse: If Germany had the atom bomb in 44 or 45 would it have made a difference? No, because the air superiority would have prevented them from effectively using it. Likewise, if Germany had the bomb in 41 or had total air control over the skies by 43 it would've been impossible for UK-US to launch an attack over the critical parts over Germany. They could try something by bombing Rome through Africa though. Ultimately the majority of air losses were caused by sheer numbers of Soviets, and without those Germany could protect the skies that mattered to her. They did develop radar avionics at the same time for use on board planes like the Uhu night fighter.

good luck reaching b-29s