Thread to discuss islam and correct false perception of our religion spread by (((medias))).
I will be transparent and answer all the questions you might have.
For Christians, the main ideological differences between our two religions are: >We believe Jesus is a Prophet and the Messiah, but he is not the son of God. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses are also Prophets in addition to Mohamed being the last one. >We believe there is only one God, we do not believe in the concept of Trinity. Consider that God took a human form is blasphemous in Islam. >We do not believe God is a kind of human in the clouds or that he has made humans in his own image. He is an entity which has created the Universe, has no beginning and no end, is unique, has no sons or parents, has full power on the whole Universe, and has full-knowing of everything that happens in this Universe. We don't represent God because the human brain cannot imagine a physical representation of Him. >We don't believe in Jesus to be sacrificed to save mankind and its sins. Everybody is responsible for its own acts and pays for its own sins. >Every human is born free of sins instead of Christians believing that we are all sinners since day 1. Sins are taken into account once you reach puberty. If you die before, you go directly to Paradise.
I still hope you all die in a small housefire. Merry Christmas.
David Turner
Lol >Muslim >flag
Merry Christmas
Anthony Jenkins
Might God helps you find peace into your hatred hearts.
Julian Williams
>French flag >Muslim
Nolan Taylor
Why are you guys always killing people?
Brandon Lopez
As there are no mandatory relationships between nationality and religion, I do not really see where the problem is.
Blake King
Your religion is a frankenstein, you try to combine the divine with the Human, that is not possible my friend. If Jesus is the messiah how he cannot be the son of God. His comming was announced in the old testament.
Levi Howard
Fucking inbred retarded goatfucker.
Brandon Parker
>that god became man is blasphemous to muslims That is a pretty huge difference.
Asher Lopez
Stop trying to kill us
Jace Robinson
I dont have the time to debate with a """french""" sandnigger over islam, but hope a based user here will list all the factual truths about your "religion of peace". At least muslims in ISIS are true to themselves and practice their religion like it was intended to. People like you are utter scum. Play the victim card whenever they can and shout NOT REAL MUSLIMS if some sandnigger does something horrible in the name of mohammad
Ayden Reed
don't shill your religion here even i don't do that
Zachary Richardson
Go back to the desert and stop trying to kill us. Go back to killing your own people instead you're much better at it. You're only in France because pic related
Lincoln Ross
Why God would have a son? and why Jesus can't be just a human? I don't really understand your point here.
Aaron Turner
Muslims are pedophiles and goat fuckers and eat their meals with camel piss. Fuck all of them in the ass with obongo`s worthless dick after Michelle licks it clean.
Daniel Stewart
Hey Pierre is your le Coran created or uncreated?
Ethan Brown
He was a human but also god. We are all children of god. In a sense we are all god. I have nothing against muslims, even the terrorist ones. Love is the ultimate law and reality.
Jaxson Lopez
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Andrew Russell
Think about it. Why God would take an imperfect human form, in which he needs to eat, to go to sleep, to go to toilets, to take showers. We are talking about God, who has no beginning and no end, who created the whole Universe with no difficulty.
We say in Islam that Jesus is just a human and a Prophet but he was not God nor son of God.
Ayden Evans
Islam is a false religion. They reject the Son and hath not the Father.
Eli Myers
Personally I have no interest in a totalitarian satanic pedo death cult other than to have it's corrosive influence removed from civilised countries
>He was a human but also god. Well that's where I can't agree. You cannot associate anything to God. There is only one God and it is not Jesus. I can agree with you that Jesus has done miracles thanks to God permission. I can agree that we was born without father. I can agree he was the Messiah. But I cannot agree that he was a God. Doing this is similar to what polytheists are doing.
>We are all children of god. God has no children. We are only God creation. But it doesn't mean that God doesn't love us.
>In a sense we are all god. This is completely non-sense. We are just humans, with imperfections.
>I have nothing against muslims, even the terrorist ones.
Terrorists deserve to be punished.
Josiah Thompson
How do you get by your prophet's pedofilia? The Hadith clearly state that Mohammed (aged 50+) married Aisha when she was 6 and fucked her at 9 yo.I find this revolting, and would look very skeptically at any religion founded by such a man?
Andrew Garcia
One point is that he married those who needed a home like orphans and such. And for the point of slavery, his slaves were not treated bad like Americans slaves. Like if it was making butter for example, they would take turns mashing the milk or whatever just to make it efficient. They were not whipped and starved and such.
Jaxon Baker
>Why God would take an imperfect human form, in which he needs to eat, to go to sleep, to go to toilets, to take showers. Because He cares about his creation. Of course Muslims wouldn't know that because they get their book from a pedophile warmonger that got beat up in a cave by an "angel."
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 >And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. >Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Repent.
Isaiah Flores
>Jesus pooped
DELET THIS NOW
Ethan Clark
She couldn't be 6 or 9 as it would create historical incoherences.
>According to a hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE. However, because no one below the age of fifteen was allowed to accompany raiding parties, Aisha should have been at least fifteen in 624 CE and thus at least thirteen when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.
>Ibn Hisham’s version of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least fifteen in 622 CE.
>Tabari also reports that Abu Bakr’s four children were all born during the Jahiliyyah (Pre-Islam Period), which has ended in 610 CE, making Aisha at least twelve in 622 CE.
>According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah (Migration to Medina). However, according to another narrative in Bukhari (Kitaab al-Tafseer) Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an , was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th Surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years, then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.
Easton Lee
OP you dont know the Truth about your Religion.
Allah is just one of the many gods and you are Pagan.
gods with the little g are known as Archons. They are the Lords known as the Titans.
Saturn is the Father of them, he is the Chief Archon the Demiurge.
The Cube at Mecca is a Symbol of Saturn. You are part of the Cult of Saturn.
If you want to know the truth of Allah you need to read our oldest text. The Atrahasis.
The gods from the Sumerian view have names like Anu, Enlil and Enki.
Nothing else do they about your stupid pseudo religion go suck dicks in hell
Tyler Rivera
Regardless of any view on Islam, why exactly are you in France? Why don't you leave?
Gavin Cooper
But do you know what father you follow? That is my question to you.
There is a Pagan father god also, how do you know that you are not being tricked into honoring this Father god?
He is the Father of the Archon. He made all the other so he is called father and the First Ruler.
But he is the Impostor god.
Have you ever wondered why "god' would be jealous, angry and vengeful?
Jack Long
Because He is the only creator. If I created humans and they went off worshiping rocks and sacrificing babies to the sun I'd be pretty pissed too. Take your Gnosticism and go do whatever it is you retards do.
Hunter Bennett
You have such an imagination that I laughed when I read your nonsense.
Adrian Williams
The confusion I hear is over the divinity/humanity of Jesus. This was settled back in 325 A.D. at the First Council of Nicaea. The incarnation is a mystery. How can a perfect God become human? After much debate the church decided that it was beyond our human understanding. Christianity is the only religion in the world that God took the initiative to come to his lost people. All of the other religions have people chasing their god in hopes that their god will hear them. The Christian God completely understands his people because he walked in our shoes. The pic shown is of the Ichthus. It is an ancient secret symbol identifying one as a Christian. If you drew one half into the dirt then someone that you suspected of having your beliefs would finish the symbol. The reason being because of the persecution of Christians like we have today with Trump supporters.
Christopher Campbell
How come you don't stay and improve your own country?
Jackson Scott
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Juan Campbell
So basically you say that God couldn't understand humans if he didn't took a human form himself? When will you stop blaspheming the Lord?
Parker Hall
He only wants you to think he is the creator.
He was put in this place that is the Realm of Shadow. Its his prison.
He opened his eyes and looked around and only saw himself. So he proclaimed that he was god.
This is why gnostics call him the Blind and Ignorant god.
Sure, he made us like a Golem in the Image and Reflection of his mother the Aeon Sophia. He was Emulating what she did.
Sophia showed him the true pure light and the Gloomy ruler was terrified.
Zachary Walker
>We believe Jesus is not the son of God. Heresy. >We believe there is only one God, Yet the Bible clearly says there's a whole bunch of them. If there were just one, why, the first of the Ten Commandments wouldn't make any sense at all. We'd just have the Nine Commandmends, and what kind of an odd number is that?
>We do not believe God is a kind of human in the clouds or that he has made humans in his own image. Heresy again.
>We don't believe in Jesus to be sacrificed to save mankind and its sins. Fine. Burn in hell. In fact, go on one of your car or truck killings and burn in that.
>Every human is born free of sins instead of Christians believing that we are all sinners since day 1. I see. No modesty. Our spoilt brats are little princes and you don't tell them off for doing shitty stuff. That's why they all have such inflated egos and are such insufferable arrogant bastards in later life.
The truth of the matter is that every church has a light that only goes out on good friday, and every synagogue has a candle lighter. We say God is the Light, and the Light is good. Muslims on the other hand worship a black cube that is filled with utter darkness. They must all travel to the Cube of Eternal Darkness at least once in their life. And even if they don't, they bow down to this symbol of eternal darkness five times a day.
William Sanders
Is being white a bad thing now?
Charles Reed
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Nicholas Davis
Aisha was 6 years old
Chase Watson
What better way to prove to your creation that you know their struggle than to be right there by your soldiers' side. Just like a great General, he wouldn't ask you to do anything he wouldn't do. He experienced the worst of persecution and for that I salute the almighty and I say happy birthday to my best friend who loves me so much that HE died for me while your god asks you to die for HIM.
Oliver Foster
Post your adress you dirty kike, and i will personally end your life (figuratively)
Lincoln Turner
You will notice that you are allowed to speak about Buddha, Muhammed, Hindu gods, and Jews who claim that they worship a god but are in control of the porn industry. Just try to talk about Jesus on air and watch everybody squirm. Sing Christian Hymns or have nativities, or prayer in school or football fields and watch the demons screech in pain. The reason being is they hate Jesus. The prince of the air (satan) hates God and does not want to have his name heard. You know you are over the target when you receive flak.
John Evans
Buddhist don't necessarily worship a God
Nathaniel Brown
The Confusion comes because Pagans like Constantine Edited the Bible to trick people into following their Father god as the True Father.
They tried to merge the religions by leaving out details that tell us about the gods and by choose one of them to represent the "lord"
Gabriel Hughes
They worship nothingness. Basically death.
Lucas Torres
I know you are trying to defend something but you completely missed the point by trying to change the subject. No disrespect but if I didn't give that reply this would not be a Sup Forums discussion.
Mason Jenkins
>Yet the Bible clearly says there's a whole bunch of them. If there were just one, why, the first of the Ten Commandments wouldn't make any sense at all. We'd just have the Nine Commandmends, and what kind of an odd number is that?
Seriously I just read that and I can't believe you are this stupid.
>You shall have no other gods before Me. means that human should not worship fake gods (like Roman, Greek, Egyptian ones) but only Him. It does not mean that other Gods exist.
Luis Adams
Get out Kebab, you religion was invented in 600 AD while the Bible was written by his disciples in 40-100 AD. So I don't know how in the world you are claiming any form of credibility.
Henry Jones
>according to this link
Adam Nelson
Many of the dead sea scrolls were written 100 years before Christ. All of them were written before Constantine.
Gavin Young
Then you failed elementary reading comprehension. Because in the Ten Commandmends, God clearly believes other gods exist. He states he's a jealous god, he doesn't like it when other gods are worshipped. In Genesis, gods are in plural. More than one god has created man. And in the story of Moses, Moses has to ask God: "What god are you? What is your name?"
There is more than one, and denying that simple fact simply because an Arab camel herder said so, is just retarded.
Connor Campbell
Tout musulman sont des ennemis de la culture Française. Ahmed va t'faire foutre par un porc
Evan Rogers
Basically we believe the universe as a endless cycle that has occurred infinite amount of times by expanding and contracting and every animal is born and dies this cycle continues we don't believe gods created humans but are created by this endless cycle of nature
Justin Nguyen
When the Genesis speaks of other gods it is speaking of false gods that have no true existence, pagan fag.
Hunter Wood
You forgot >We believe a child raping, mass murdering warlord was sent by God to make up shit as he went along for his own power and that leaving him is a death sentence
Muhammad is a lot like the Mexican drug cartel leaders. You worship 7th century El Chapo. Congratulations.
Christopher Robinson
Ashtoreth, Baal, Chemosh, Dagon, Egyptian gods, Golden Calf, Marduk, Milcom.
Thou shalt have no other gods before ME. Do you need it broken down any more than this?
Brandon Anderson
Aright, correct these misconceptions >Islam has a death penalty for apostasy. You never tell this to new converts when you're convincing them to become Muslim >The prophet sallaallahualeihiwasalaam believed that the holy trinity was God, Jesus and the Virgin Mary. Rather than acknowledge his ignorance, you simply decide that all actual Christians don't count because they're not 'really' Christian, a handy loophole you can carry in case you need to dismiss the many claims that Islam protects Christians that you like to use when bragging about how peaceful you are >The Hadith make frequent records of the prophet sallaallahualeihiwasalaam allowing and encouraging rape and sexual violence as a weapon of war and subjugation, and used the promise of plundered sex slaves as a means of encouraging soldiers to die to make him rich. I'm just browsing before going to Christmas with my family so I won't read your response but goddamn your religion is fucking awful.
Justin Collins
butthurt
Nathan Butler
All faces of Lucifer. There is God and His angels, and there is Lucifer and his angels.
Daniel Morales
Seriously, stop jerking off and go read the Bible because even a a Muslim I know better your book than you.
Isaiah 37:19 "and have cast their gods into the fire, for they were not gods but the awork of men’s hands, wood and stone. So they have destroyed them."
It shows that these Gods are just human inventions. Seriously, you should repent because saying that other God exists is blasphemous and you might burn in hell for that.
Nathaniel Rivera
I hear buddhism is really a technique of self control within a mythos of what we westerners lumped togeather as "Hinduism". But idk, I do like to pick an chose, but I can't deny the connection I feel with Vishnu, his light just won't stop shining within me. But I feel him changing. He's starting to feel amused, get ready for some high wire trickery abode.
Nathan Walker
You really have no idea or knowledge what you are talking about.
You will all be cleansed from our ancestral lands.
Adam Sullivan
its human misunderstanding for me for muslim, its the way christian treat jesus that they didnt like, not the Jesus himself for christian, its Muhammad way of life that they didnt like (polygamy, underage, mass killing) the human perception of god is different for each religion what if theres really 1 god, a same god but because of human miss identification that religion came what if muslims and Christians worship the same god but because of jews they thought it differently
remind you, that the real infidels are jews because they literally worship false god aka satan like demiurge, moloch and minerva
remind you when moses went for 2 days and came back with 10 ammendments, those jews already worship their false god
Jaxson Gonzalez
Citation needed.
Also, Princess Isabella was 12 when she married the King of England. Hypocrite much?
But many of them were cut out of the Bible and are said to be Apocryphal because they give too much information.
Aiden Hill
Er, no. "The majority of Muslims today, including both scholars and the general Muslim population, agree that Aisha was 9 when her marriage to Prophet Muhammad was consummated. This has been the mainstream Muslim understanding throughout Islam's 1,400 year history."wikiislam.net/wiki/Aishas_Age_of_Consummation Thats why the AoC is in Sharia Iran. Please stop lying about your religion. Embrace the pedo Prophet!
Jonathan Young
Fuck off. Muzzies go home
James King
THIS Thanks for that.
David Bell
Yeah, when pigs fly
Ryan Bell
all religions worship the same entity
Luke Murphy
Well we say that Jesus was a Muslim and send God message to mankind. However, years after, human start adding innovations such as Jesus is son of God.
So basically, we say that the Bible was originally the word of God. But currently it is the word of God + human additions.
We say that God send the same message to Muhammed. Polygamy is ok in Islam. Underage marriage is not valid in Islam. Mass killing is s big crime in Islam. The only reason where you can kill somebody in Izlam is for criminals (muderers, etc.) and it must be a judge to execute the sentence or during war.
Nathaniel Flores
"It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..." - Quran (8:67)
Yes, such a peaceful religion you have there.
Adrian Torres
pic related looks like a perfect target for a nuclear ICBM. that would be the most glorious happening in the history of the universe
Jace Rodriguez
What they don't realize is that Islam has absolutely nothing to offer. You've got to kneel down five times a day, even if you've got knee surgery or a bad back. You've got to listen to what an uneducated, uninspired camel herder had to say in the dark ages. You've got to hate on all people that are beyond such retardation. Fun, alcohol and music not allowed, not even pictures in some countries! And their book doesn't even have entertaining stories, it just drones on and on and on, repeating stuff again and again and again until it drives you nuts. Totally uninspired.
Compare that to ending the suffering (Buddhism), to being the chosen people (Jews) or freeing your spirit and eternal life in heaven (Christianity). Islam is like you had some red and yellow and blue paint over from other religions and threw that all together and got a kind of shitty brown, which became Islam.
Caleb Sanders
Merry Christmas Ahmed, happy raping of French women
Joseph Rogers
Not defending, just correcting.
Ayden Carter
Religion is for retards or people stuck in medieval times. Your religion is a lie and when you die it will be just that, lights out. Fucking delusional twat.
Would you consider racists and bigot as criminals worthy of capital punishment ( killing them). Because this was the rationale for many mass murder events including the 1998 embassy bombings and the Boston Marathon bombing.
Henry Watson
Jesus' fundamental lesson is that "goodness" flows not from men's deeds, or even their sincere attempt to keep the Law, but rather must have another source - God Himself. In this context, Jesus' request to "follow Me" is the equivalent of doing good by God's standard. Jesus encourages the young ruler to give up his wealth and put God first by following God's Son.
Joshua Flores
well you stone-aged low IQ nigger. Jesus stated plainly on multiple occasions that he was the son of God and that he was in fact God. Therefore, either Jesus is the Son of God or he was insane or he was a liar. Pick one.
Nolan Garcia
they are only crimes if committed against fellow muslims, not against the non-believers. You are literally another brand of judaism.
Blake Rogers
The exception to this is Gnosticism.
If you have not found the path to the One true God yet you should learn about the Demiurge.
He is the Impostor god who claims to be the creator.
Christopher Scott
All of the books except for Esther and Nehemiah are in the Bible. The others such as the book of Enoch were not in the dead sea scrolls.
Jackson Foster
>Religion is for retards or people stuck in medieval times. Hitler disagrees with you, kike.
Luis Sanders
“But of that day and hour no one knows,” Jesus said to His disciples on the Mount of Olives (Matthew 24:36).
Andrew Phillips
merry christmas goatfuckers
Jason Cook
How many centuries have we been waiting for the rapture now? Not to mention that over half of Christians still believe it will happen in their lifetime
Welp can't argue with the big H
Carter Watson
Ok if he is God then could you explain me the following verses?
>John 5:30 >By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
>John 5:19 >The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
>Mark 10:18 >Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.
>John 14:28 >The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
Qurtubi tafsir (exegesis) p.500 where he comments on chapter 2 verse 195 of the Quran and says a fighter sacrificing himself, even as he knows that he will certainly die, is allowed as long as the attack will result in terrorising the enemy and killing many in return for the Muslim's death.
