Hypothetically what evidence would it take to convince Holocaust deniers they're wrong?

Hypothetically what evidence would it take to convince Holocaust deniers they're wrong?

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Actual evidence

I was bug sprayed five times goy.

>Actual evidence
Like documents from the Nazis confirming mass genocide? Or maybe population census information? No of course that isn't actual evidence.

Massgraves, huge deposits of ash, human skin coaches and lamp shades and my imagination

>picture of einsatzgruppen exectuing civiliains during wartime
>oy vye goyim this must mean 6 gorrilion jews were gassed!!!!

No one in thier right mind denies that organized killings took place during the worst war to ever occur. What some argue is that the dealth toll is lower than 6 mil, that gas was used as a delousing agaents, and that the detahs from the camps were not caused by gas, but by typhus and starvation.

I persianlly beleve that gassing took place in birkuanu tho. heres a fun vid for u to watch

youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

It's not the fact the holocaust didn't happen...you like most get this wrong...the fact is there wasn't and isn't a final solution.. JEWS were a massive problem, just like today and we're targeted, nobody is questioning that.... What most believe and know is there wasn't gas chambers, that what's being denied, but it get spun by the likes of you.... To be honest, I wish they had fucking gasses them and was a plan to wipe them out, be more peace in the world today....

Never happened but it should have

Maybe if meme flag flying faggots like yourself stop legislating holocaust denial. Any historical event besides the alleged holocaust can be denied. Moon landing? Fake, the Earth is flat. American civil war? Nope, never happened. Holocaust? Bullshit. Oh, wait, here come the police.

some actual evidence or proof for example

Let's see it then got, post those sources.

You can't deny the holocaust if you have over 80 IQ and have spent around 30 minutes looking up docs online
And by docs I don't mean youtube videos made on windows movie maker with the matrix music blasting and cherry picked tinfoil nonsense treated as fact

It's fine tho, everyone has a right to remain delusional, this is 2017

Show me the remaibs of 6 million dead Jews. Then I will believe 6 million were killed

No one denies the holocaust. They question the gas chambers. Because there's precedent.

The gas chambers are a myth, just like the myth that Nazis made soap out of human fat (from Jewish concentration camp prisoners). The soap accusation was later debunked by historians but was repeated by some Jews well into the 1990s. Even today you might find some people repeating it as fact, such is the power of stories that are believed on faith rather than evidence. Other accusations never caught on to the same extent because they were simply too unbelievable.

"Holocaust survivors" admit that they heard rumors about the gas chambers from other Jews before even arriving at a concentration camp. Thus if a Jew lost a loved one during the war, they simply assumed they had gone to the gas chambers. Even after the Allies investigated a camp and determined it was *not* a death camp, Jews still repeated the story because they felt they were doing a good thing for the "victims". Insodoing the myth is reinforced without a shred of truth or evidence.

Gas chambers did exist, but were a life-saving measure to exterminate Typhus-spreading lice in clothing. That's why eyewitnesses often include details like haircuts & showers (life-saving pest deterrant measures). Despite these efforts, typhus (aka "camp fever", "ship fever", etc.) resulted in 200,000 deaths by the end of the war going by Red Cross reports. That's why the camps needed crematories. But those deaths weren't planned, in fact the Germans tried to prevent them, and total nowhere near 6,000,000.

You can hear directly from Jews, and learn more about the improbability of the story, why the numbers claimed to have been killed in gas chambers at Auschwitz is scientifically & technically impossible, in the following video. Watch it & make up your own mind.

>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>Like documents from the Nazis confirming mass genocide?

Don't exist

>population census information

Sure thing famalam

>b-but I heard 6 million died in the holocaust!
Normies swallow 6 gorillion because they never critically examine such a grisly topic, believing (((Hollywood))) and Allied history is 100% factual

>b-but what about the Nuremberg trials! Some Nazis admitted war crimes, so it must be true Hitler had a Final Solution to kill all the Jews!
Allies tortured German POWs. Gerstein claimed 25 million were killed, does that sound believable? At Dachau Nazis had their testicles kicked in and crushed beyond repair

At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) said 4 million died in gas chambers. Today, the death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes), though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>b-but it wasn't just Auschwitz!
At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) said 2 million were killed in gas chambers.
Now they say The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>b-but the Reinhard death camps: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec!
There is little to support the claim that tens of thousands, let alone 1.3 MILLION died
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

>b-but Nazis made lampshades out of tattooed Jewish inmates!
The lampshade myth comes from a propaganda film made to de-Nazify Germany by a US Psych Warfare unit
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

>b-but I've seen Steven Spielberg's Survivors of the Shoah!
Watch the following
>The Last Days of the Big Lie
youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>o-ok, let's suppose you're right. Why does it matter?!
It matters because no one can criticize the Jews without being labeled an anti-semite. Denial is ILLEGAL in 20 countries
>The JQ:
youtube.com/watch?v=IKy3fCvMz-8

Seriously user what makes more sense: That the Nazis, a anti-semitic group who rose to power and commited Genocide against Jews (alongside other groups) in the places they controlled using death camps that they documented, listed, and built.

OR

It's all a massive global conspiracy in which everyone involved, from world leaders to actual jews who lived through the events are lying and making up claims that a genocide happened and that the Nazis who had plans to actually kill jews were really just good guys.


Hmmn

Hey kids!

Today we're going to learn about Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning documentary about the Holocaust, called "The Last Days". It stars several Holocaust survivors spewing complete bullshit, and even has Paul Parks in it! Paul Parks is a black soldier who claims to have liberated concentration camps, but there's just one tiny problem with his story.

You see, historians and military documents proved that Parks' unit didn't do any of the things he claims. Even better still, this was all known before Spielberg invited him to be in The Last Days. Parks had taken part in an earlier documentary about brave black soldiers and their role in liberating camps that turned out to be a complete hoax and had to be taken off of shelves!

Unsurprisingly, Spielberg's film was not criticized for this and he still has his Oscar. Because that's just how Jews roll, kids!

Oh, and one of the other "survivors" became a Californian politician and was instrumental in building the case for the first Iraq war using the same sort of atrocity lies that the Jews have used against the Germans. Neato, huh?

>The Last Days of the Big Lie
youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

btw thats a yugoslavian uniform

we got real red cross documents about the population going in and out from the camps.
nothing like the fake documents created by russian jews. we all know nurnberg was a sham trial.

>documents from the Nazis confirming mass genocide
>population census information
Please, show us your "evidence" lolberg.

>using death camps that they documented, listed, and built

Oops...

Fact #1: No historian has ever claimed 4 million JEWS had died at Auschwitz.
Fact #2: Even Soviets never alleged 4 million JEWS had died at Auschwitz (did their sign say “jews”?)
Fact #3: Soviets never alleged 3 million or 2 million or 1 million JEWS had died at Majdanek.
Fact #4: With the above 3 in mind, there is no logical reason to lower the “Six Million JEWS killed from all causes during the holocaust” figure.
Fact #5: No historian is alleging 6 million Jews (or even people in general!) were gassed.
Fact #6: Several deniers no longer deny: David Cole, Eric Hunt, Mark Weber (director of the IHR!), David Irving, the list goes on....
Fact #7: Red Cross never published a figure as to how many people died during the holocaust. In their private Bad Arolsen archives they only have kept an incomplete figure of certified, registered deaths in SOME concentration camps. Deniers misrepresent this figure.
Fact #8: "Auschwitz" is a large complex consisting of 3 camps, the largest being Birkenau, where most of the Jews died. No swimming pool, theater or brothel there.
Fact #9: No one except strawman-building deniers are alleging the wooden doors in Krema I's gas chamber are the original homicidal gas chamber doors.
Fact #10: There is no existing chemistry law which says how much Prussian Blue staining HAS TO form on brick-walls PER hour of HCN present in the room. Science cannot debunk the holocaust.
Fact #11: On topic, it is irrelevant how capable the Auschwitz ovens were, because another denier strawman is “everyone killed at Auschwitz were cremated in the ovens”. Deniers ignore outdoor cremations (Sonderkommando photos).
Fact #12: You dont go to jail in any country for investigating the holocaust, only for boldly spreading disinfo, i.e. confidently denying homicidal gas chambers and grossly downplaying the death toll

Every single denier claim torn apart, from the Anne Frank diary to the Reinhard camps:
hdot.org/debunking-denial/

Holocaust??
A holocaust is a religious sacrifice by means of fire to the gods... So no, the holocaust didn't happen.
Funny how's the dirty faux JEWS used this method in ancient Babalonyian on every fucker else...together with the fact they need this to happen to them before they are let, by god , back into Israel
.. that's why proper JEWS are against Zionism, they know it to be a lie...

10 newspapers between 1915-1939 with 6 million jews in a holocaust...
Nice vid
youtu.be/jJ2X8UWHOjY

Nothing, cause I don't deny it.

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ANOTHER ONE!!!

And rifle.

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Stop talking about the fake phony made up fictional fantasy conspiracy myth known as the holohoax

it is literally fucking irrelevant

1939: Hitler foretells the annihilation of the Jewish RACE in Europe:
youtube.com/watch?v=W6mIO-kYI0I

1943: Himmler admits that the Holocaust is happening:
youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

Photos of outdoor cremation taken from gas chamber doorway:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_photographs

Höfle Telegram shows 1.274 million people deported to Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor etc. by Dec 1942 - 99.99% never heard from again:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Höfle_Telegram

What was that part of?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Reinhard

So where exactly did Einsatzgruppen shoot all these people? You need to be more specific!
yahadmap.org/#map/

Where are all the buried bodies? Exhumed and cremated:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005

Okay but if so much happened, there has to be photographic evidence of these killings?
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

>comes to pol to post wikipedia artcles
>on pol
either way the fact that they burnt documents supports the claim that did build and operate it before the war ended.

SAGE

Sage kike shill threads and move on. Holohoax never happened but it should have.

kek
edgy political views and autism don't mix well...

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user that's too much proof, if it contradicts the majority of/pol/'s opinion then they'll just move the goal post farther and farther.nio

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Isn't that photo edited to begin with? is that lady even actually there? confuse it with the other hundreds of doctored ones.

>nazi documents
You mean the ones that have been constantly surfacing and proven faked, or there is (((no surviving copy of the original document)))? Have they ever been able to answer why all the documents speak of the extermination program in euphenisms, like "final solution" and so on, when the Nazi's had no idea their codes were broken for the entire war?

>population census info
You mean the cenus that states that Hitler managed to kill more Jews then there were in all of Europe?

also "Holocaust deniers" is a strawman perpetuated to equate skepticism regarding the offical Holocaust narrative with complete rejection of every aspect of it. Nobody here thinks the camps never existed, most of us just find the death toll and survivor stories to be fishy, yet it is literally illegal in most places to ask for a little more then an eyewitness account.

>Fact #2: Even Soviets never alleged 4 million JEWS had died at Auschwitz (did their sign say “jews”?)
The sign said "most of them jews", suggesting at least 2 million Jews died there. Today, they claim 500,000 died in gas chambers, most of them Hungarian Jews.

>Fact #3: Soviets never alleged 3 million or 2 million or 1 million JEWS had died at Majdanek.
They claimed 2 million died there. Now they claim less than 70,000. Are you suggesting the initial figure stated that less than 70,000 Jews died there? I doubt it.

>Fact #4: With the above 3 in mind, there is no logical reason to lower the “Six Million JEWS killed from all causes during the holocaust” figure.
If only 500,000 Jews are said to have been killed at Auschwitz and less than 70,000 died in total at Madjanek, then where do you make up for the missing 5.5 million Jews who supposedly died?

>Fact #6: Several deniers no longer deny: David Cole, Eric Hunt, Mark Weber (director of the IHR!), David Irving, the list goes on..
None of them ever denied the holocaust. They simply question the gas chambers. This is part of the word-game Jews play to escape the problem of scientific evidence lacking. Also note that Eisenhower's memoirs about WW2 made no mention of gas chambers or the 6 million. Strange, isn't it?

>Fact #7: Red Cross never published a figure as to how many people died during the holocaust. In their private Bad Arolsen archives they only have kept an incomplete figure of certified, registered deaths in SOME concentration camps. Deniers misrepresent this figure.
As opposed to the ridiculously inflated figures offered by the Soviets?

HOLOCAUST IS REAL
IT WAS PLANNED BY THE JEWS
MATHS PROVES IT: THEY'RE ALL ASH-NAZIS NOW
THE "NAZI" MONICKER WAS A MOCKERY (ON ASHKENAZI)
THE "SUPER RACE" WAS ALSO A MOCKERY, AS THE KIKES KNEW THE KRAUTS WERE MENTALLY WEAK AND EASILY PUPPETTED
The ENTIRE WWII
was an operation
to kill off the lower castes of jewry
and launch the jews into America
that's what pearl harbor was
jews inciting the japs to get US in, they were losing patience
it makes no sense except from that reference
10 minutes later
all you dumb germanic descendant niggers with the broken brain gene, were pushing everyone else in US to cut their babies dicks
to let the literal fucking jew aliens to blend in
disgusting
DISGUSTING

It looks like I've already won.

>Science cannot debunk the holocaust.

K

You deny the lolocaust if you have over 80 IQ. And it's not fine, for you go to jail in your country if you do so

an explenation why they blame so much other shit on germans which they obviously never did for example
sage

You could try posting photos that arent doctored.

ALL HOLOCAUST DENIAL WAS INVENTED BY THE JEWS:
THE JEWS PLANNED AND EXECUTED THE HOLOCAUST:
THEY ALSO PLANNED AND EXECUTED HOLOCAUST DENIAL
THE JEWS THAT MANAGED THIS MADE TRILLIONS
TRILLIONS
AND STOLE ENTIRE CONTINENTS OUT OF THIS
AND STILL MAKE TENS OF BILLIONS TODAY

The Holocaust did happen, but it was not what we usually think of as "The Holocaust"

Germans rounded up all the Jews because they viewed them as enemies of Germany, broadly because Germans blamed Jews for the Depression.

Jews were blamed for the Depression because they had, historically, controlled banks and such (because their religion allows money lends, while Christianity at the time did not).

There are other reason why Germany did not like Jews, but I'm not writing a fucking essay here.

Any way, Germany thinks Jews are it enemies, puts them in concentration camps and ghettos so that they can not sabotage Germany while it is at war, exactly what the USA and Canada did with the Japanese, and England with Germans.

Quick timeline

1939: WW2 breaks out, Jews put in camps

The Jews are now in camps within a country at war with the majority of Europe, what amount of supplies do you think Germany is able to spare for them?

June 6 1944: Germany is now pretty much fucked, they will spend the next year struggling against the combined might of the Allies.

By the time the Allies reach the heart of Germany, the German army is now fielding young boys and old men, German citizens are starving, Germanys economic and transportation structures have been bombed into oblivion by Allied bombers

And people are shocked to find malnourished people in concentration camps

Basically the Allies starved Germany out and the Jews in the concentration camps got the worst of it, USA goes apeshit when they find out in order to take global eyes away from the shit they did (firebombing of Dresden/Tokyo, the atomic bombings)

And now Jew guilt everywhere forever

Nah , It is faked a tad though

Already posted this picture , dumbass

>well not every single story lines up 100% therefore everything is wrong and the joos r liez!!!!

Fact #1, wrong.

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6 million.
That includes the 4 million at Auschwitz....
Oh wait, that got lowered to 1.5..
So 3.5 million.....?

Nah, they stick to the 6 million.... Better ring to it....

"""""""""""polish patriot""""""""""
100% these were jew spies
they knew what they were doing
and knew the message must be controlled
they probably saw radio/tv/media as a burgeoning threat to the dark cloud of jewry and realized they needed to create a war to control it

Ah thanks.

Shut up. This is bull shit sage.

>lamp shades
>Go through more suffering than any neckbeard could ever imagine
>Be freed from hellish nightmare
>get flashbacks
>remember the last time you remembered, not the event itself
>50 years later
>Asked about experience with hundreds of thousands of others
>some of the stories are out there.
Yep the holocaust didn't heppen, no way that one person was just mistaken, right?

>the fact that they burnt documents

It is also fact that Roosevelt could take a 12" diameter dildo to the hilt but unfortunately the source documents have been destroyed as well

I don't think there are actual holocaust deniers here.
We know it happened, but we also know it was overblown out of proportion in a massive scale.
It somehow overshadowed the entire USSR gulag camp network, the holodomor, Mao's "great leap forward" and many of the genocides of Africa.

Didn't the UN at some point say the entire death toll of the holocaust was something around 900k?

>Fact #8: "Auschwitz" is a large complex consisting of 3 camps, the largest being Birkenau, where most of the Jews died. No swimming pool, theater or brothel there.
The camp with the supposed gas chambers contained a soccer field where inmates would play soccer games after the day's work. Auschwitz Birkenau inmates reveal this in Spielberg's Shoah interviews.

>Fact #9: No one except strawman-building deniers are alleging the wooden doors in Krema I's gas chamber are the original homicidal gas chamber doors.
Factually incorrect.

>Fact #10: There is no existing chemistry law which says how much Prussian Blue staining HAS TO form on brick-walls PER hour of HCN present in the room. Science cannot debunk the holocaust.
Science has already caused the numbers originally claimed at Auschwitz to drop by 3 million and at Madjanek by almost 2 million. More research should be done, and when it is done the numbers at other camps would likely drop too.

>Fact #11: On topic, it is irrelevant how capable the Auschwitz ovens were, because another denier strawman is “everyone killed at Auschwitz were cremated in the ovens”. Deniers ignore outdoor cremations (Sonderkommando photos).
The ovens are only irrelevant to you now, because your supposed eye-witnesses who discuss the gassing and cremation operations disproves the story.

>Fact #12: You dont go to jail in any country for investigating the holocaust, only for boldly spreading disinfo, i.e. confidently denying homicidal gas chambers and grossly downplaying the death toll.
You dare to suggest it is acceptable that scientists who have studied the so-called death camps be sent to prison simply for publishing their opinions that contradict the mainstream narrative! I guess you also defend the imprisonment of lawyer Sylvia Stolz simply for defending her client in a holocaust denial trial as well!

It's not that they believe that it didn't happen, they want other people to think it didn't happen. Because the finding out that the Holocaust happen is what galvanized western nations into being sympathetic to the jews.

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>"I am currently talking about the "evacuation of the Jews", the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that is easily said. 'The Jewish people are being exterminated,' every Party member says, 'perfectly clear, it's written in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, and we do that."

-himmler
What do you think?

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>the lack of evidence IS evidence goyim!

They were at war you mong, of course they were burning documents

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I would need the legalization of studying and learning more about the holohoax, and red Cross should admit they were wrong about the under a million number

What?

Mistranslation

"Many of those who accept the orthodox version of the Holocaust story refuse to accept Porter's translation of Ausrottung, and the other terms which are typically translated to mean extermination. Porter's translation shows that there can be a benign interpretation of these words, especially when taken within the context of the entire speech.

In 1993, Robert Wolfe, supervisory archivist for captured German records at the National Archives admitted that a more precise translation of Ausrottung would be extirpation or tearing up by the roots. Wolfe also pointed out that in Himmler's handwritten notes for the speech, that Himmler used the term, Judenevakuierung, or evacuation of the Jews, not extermination."

Source:
codoh.com/library/document/891/

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You are referring to a taped lecture. It is impossible to verify the authenticity of an audio tape. It is entirely possible that it was recorded by a Soviet Himmler impersonator using the equipment captured by Soviets as they moved through Germany to frame Germany for the crimes the Soviets would accuse them of.

THIS

Concentration camps were invented by the English during the boar war...

JEWS called them death camps and not work camps as they have never done a days work in there lives...

PS... Prince Harry new Mrs converted to a Jewess to marry her first husband, now she's converted to being protestant to marry into the royals....

No you dumb nigger. World Almanac between the years 1938 and 1948 published data based on statistics from 1938, meaning it was estimates made before the holocaust. Check world almanac 1949.

Calling out
>holocaust deniers
as a monolith is
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_language

A list of at least 1 million names with dates and places of birth or marriage records or school record or property record etc (i.e. can be checked that they're not bullshit)

or

Physical evidence of 1 million bodies

You are why I kill Jews.

Kill the ones worth something. Then we will believe you.

Same lie about the "final solution" in Wansee. It means the deportation of the jews in a kikeland, but people are lured to believe it means "gas chambers".

Respond to this:
You just do the typical kike debate tactic of throwing out more bullshit instead of responding to anything, Pic fucking related

Like leftists don't do it

>outdoor cremation
Physically impossible. People aren't wood you fucking moron, bodies don't burn for shit. Crematory ovens burn at thousands of degrees because its the only way to break down the bones. Even if you used enough fuel to burn a pile of corpses you would be left with a pile of charred skeletons. Where did those go?

Let's see here

Scenario 1 involves physically killing 6 million people in ways never seen before or since (leaving no physical evidence)

Scenario 2 involves words, the victor writing history

Which is more likely.......????

Any reason why you conveniently forgot about the civil war, Mortimer?

>he thinks it's apropos to conflate claims that concentration camps were summer camps with fact-based notions that the death tolls are outrageously inflated
>meme flag
The nose knows. Every. Fucking. time.

Who has to be involved? A couple world leaders 70 years ago and the few jews who were talked to for testimony. It's not to hard to think of. All in all probably not even reaching 100 people necessary to enforce the narrative, and 70 years later it takes 0, just "history"

>Believe me that nobody noticed that whole world-war-two thing going on and decided to conduct another census in case anyone had died.
How full of shit can you be, kike? Does this excuse really make sense in your shit-filled head?

Kinda hard here in Palestine.

>Höfle Telegram shows 1.274 million people deported to Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor etc. by Dec 1942 - 99.99% never heard from again:


First of all, the document says no such thing. But, let's assume it's real, where are the NAMES of these people? They must have cousins, sisters, teachers, landlords, etc etc etc who knew them. How the fuck do you disappear someone so totally that even their name is gone? Why are we supposed to be convinced they were murdered if you can't even prove they were ever born?

this is why we must find Hillary's emails

So why does the paper from 1948 have the date cropped out?

Evidence is a racist construct by white people.

OP seems to have run out of canned responses, what a shame

.... this is an issue of physiology. you have to kill them bruv.

Do you demand to see the remains of 10 million dead Ukrainians or 1.5 million dead Armenians to believe that the Holodomor and the Armenian genocide were real? I assume not. So why do you need this absurd standard of evidence to acknowledge the Holocaust?