How could the manchild and degeneracy problems get so severe and out of hand in a conservative and traditional society...

How could the manchild and degeneracy problems get so severe and out of hand in a conservative and traditional society like Japan?

If they can't contain it, what hope does West have?

>How could the manchild and degeneracy problems get so severe and out of hand in a conservative and traditional society like Japan?
America caused the downfall of Japan, that should be pretty obvious at this point.

Anime is part of our culture. Conservatism and anime are not mutually exclusive. Anime is probably one of the most redpilled form of media there is. Sup Forums is an anime image sharing board owned by the Japanese.

you're going to be devoured by this kind of plot setting soon though :-\

Anime is so full of weird fetishist shit it's not funny.

Girls pissing themselves all the time. Harem animes. Hentai shit. Fanservice. Traps left right and center.

FFS I just watched "made in abyss" the other day, and it's got some creepy predoshit in it. Like, 8 year old getting erections, children getting tied up naked as punishment, etc.

Anime is degenerate as fuck a lot of the time. Nothing red-pilled about it at all. Though, some are worse than others, and some are okay despite the weird fetish crap.

Anime is considerably less degenerate than pop culture. And the Japanese don't accept it as much. Otaku are weird. Nicki Minaj fans are normal.

>our culture
Fuck off obese American weeb.
Anime and manga are frowned upon by Japanese soicety, it is not respected, you'd know that if you were actually Japanese and not an obese Amerrimutt weeb.
>Anime is considerably less degenerate than pop culture.
>This is what the weeb tells himself.
Anime and manga are the manifestation of paedophilia fantasies, but since you have a meme cap flag, I'm not surprised you're a pedo. You are a pedo, aren't you? Admit it.
>conservative and traditional society like Japan?
Because that's a meme. There is nothing traditional or conservative about a capitalist society, capitalism will always lead to liberalism to eventually.

>made in abyss
Nanachi best waifu

(You)

I completely agreed with your points above, but acting like a fucktard won't help you get your point across.

Rollan

Japan is keeping low test betas from breeding while not taking in niggers and sandniggers, meaning that the next generation of nips will be alpha as fuck.

>conservative media
>posts naked cartoon manchild porn

wasting your 20s watching cartoons is so redpilled bro

cmon a busty one pls

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is he Brazilian? Brazil has the largest community of Japanese expatriates...

Working ethic and opening up workplaces also for women.

look up the mouse utopia, and you'll see that conservatism doesn't save a dying society, suffering does.

Japan is hyper racially aware, so even with just 1-2% of the population being immigrants it is affecting the national psyche of men as badly as it is in the West where we have much higher percentages of immigrants

>he wasn't getting erections when he was 8
I guess some people are born as soyboys.

>"look at this small part of that one culture that was popularized in the west. This will be the end of said society."

I think he is yes

Do your fucking research faggots.

When did the soy based foods came into Japan?

Why it suddenly started to being consumed again?

Who could be behind this?

Japan used to have some of the strongest, most nationalistic men, you have to be blind no to see what they have done.

what were you expecting? look at the fucking artwork. the "le redpilled anime" is limited to shit like a few shounen, maybe some sf, and some oddball historical dramas or something

Rolls

Any you can recommend? It got recommended to me because outside of the pedoshit, the story is really good. I'll give it that, if you removed the creepy child sexual scenes it's a 10/10 story.

I don't watch much anime. I liked evangelion and ergo proxy. I thought paranoia agent was garbage. Bleach and naruto were predictable kid's stories.

But I'd like to see more before I make my mind up on it compltely.

there's no reason to write off an entire medium in the first place, anime is literally just distributed animated works from a specific country. a huge huge chunk of it really is purely derivative and degenerate junk for the otaku base to keep buying up the blurays and merch, but that doesn't negate the few gems that have popped up over the decades. i dunno, you might like texhnolyze. it's slow, uncompromising, somber, occasionally erratic, but it certainly left an impact on me. i still listen to the soundtrack too, it's really really well done. i don't watch shounen these days but generally speaking anything that elevates masculinity and the traditional hero story i can respect. i'd certainly be fine with letting my kid's watch some of the series.

>harem animes are all anime
>hentai are all anime
>fanservice is only sexual related
>traps are in all anime
>the example he puts is "made in abyss"
you don't seem to understand what that anime tried to do. Which was to creep the hell out of you.

read the manga relife its about a dude who enters a program to reabilitate NEETs. its a 10/10 story that's about to end. It's romance though.

I get it, the anime shows how jews and westeners live in their lives and how degenerate they are. That's why every anime character looks like typical white person

Yeah, having kids constantly look into reg's pants and remark about how "real" his penis and scrotum is sure did creep me out. Mission accomplished.

I made sweeping generalisations, because people are asking for sweeping generalisations. Some hollywood movies being okay does not mean the entire industry is not filled with perverts pumping out propaganda trash and pushing ideologies.

A lot of anime is filled with degenerate shit. You can't deny that. calling the whole industry red-pilled is retarded.

>what hope does West have?
No hope at all. The west is gynocentric and the men are rapidly losing their women hyper social third world races. It's only natural to retreat into waifu culture if your own governments are willfully sabotaging society.

give me a percentage then. you are making the claim that all anime is degenerate, because "just these couple shows show depictions that i consider degenerate"
Just because two retards say that anime is redpilled you go full extreme and say all anime is degenerate "b-because t-this one animuh!"
what is ther difference between the two extremists?

i don't know dude but this part was more creepy for me than just a dude looking up the kid's parts.

>hating anime on Sup Forums

Rollin'

fucking finally I couldn't find that pic on my files

That part wasn't "creepy" inasmuch as it was disturbing. It was a pivotal moment, to be sure, but it was because of the reality of the situation. Everyone kept telling them the dangers of the abyss, and how they are not ready for it, but they push on regardless. That seen was the necessary tragedy of realism. It made the show what it was.

Compare that to some creep-out shock value of pedophilia references.

The litmus test for me is "how would I feel if my gf was watching this with me?".

99%

rollo for Yuuna!

*that scene.

oops.

The exoticism is gone. There's no real reason to watch the stuff as it's accessible everywhere now, to the point of literal faggots and niggers getting into my once nebbbishy subculture.

>texhnolyze

I remember watching the trailer for this ages ago. I'll check it out.

That's what confuses me to no end. People complain about a little bit of sexual stuff but don't even blink at extreme violence.

Fun little fact, did you know a large percentage of lolicon stuff is written and drawn by females? Pic related is one example.

Rolling

And i call bullshit. If you get triggered by everything like a puritan there is no difference from you and a tumblrita. What made you decide it was 99%?

... And here's how it ends.

Well, in a traditional society, women are conservative and only available through long-term monogamy. Meanwhile, violence towards outsiders and threats to your people is natural and adaptive.

I would gladly kill and maim home invaders, but I would dislike my partner dressing like a slut.

Interesting fact about the lolicon stuff. got any references/further reading?

God, I love loveplus. I wish the rest were translated into English already. We had a good Christmas Date here in USA.

What made you decide it was not 99%?

why do you choose to watch the most degenerate animes? you're clearly the problem

the same reason when you asked for references here

Bad luck? I dunno.

I'm open to recommendations.

Takane

because their culture is capitalism on steroids. they work way too much and don't have time to develop their own lives. put a need for social human interaction but you're too tired to even move when you get home, so you try to fill that void with a product that doesn't add even more stress to your extremely stressful life and you get an easy way to fix that hole.

on top of that japan has a high divorce rate like the US, so a lot of guys are thinking "fuck this, if I can fap and get affection from this, why not.'

it's unhealthy but honestly it's their way of life that is destroying them.

(1) you linked the same post twice.

(2) you failed reading comprehension. I didn't disagree with him, I wanted more reading.

(3) that's not an answer to my question of "what makes you think it is not 99%?".

I think it's safe to say about 50 percent of anime is degenerate or blue pilled.

Anything where it's mindless fan service, girls going around doing stupid shit for no reason at all, degenerate sexual shit or even normalizing degenerate behavior.

Anime is definitely a parental guidance genre contrary to some of its promoters insistence of it being red pilled.

I'd name some if I could but I have to go bavk to work.

White men bullied them....especially about their manhood and looks. So they resort to animated stuff because these animated stuff won't hurt their feelings.

FOX LADY NOW

coyboy bebop

relife (really good)
clannad (fucking slow, but the point is growing up and caring about family)
those come to mind. And i don't even watch anime that much
>you linked the same post twice.
I made a mistake, how is that an argument when you read it anyway
>you failed reading comprehension. I didn't disagree with him, I wanted more reading.
and i disagree with your statement because you only said a number without naming your sources or studies
>that's not an answer to my question of "what makes you think it is not 99%?".
you are making the claim. I am asking for your reasoning. The burden of proof is on you.

I wouldn't know because i don't watch "degenerate" anime. It has to be a really fucking good story for me o bypass shit like traps and gays. And if it includes those, its normally not a good story.

French studio ankama makes a living off this "degenerate" shit, tho wakfu is way fucked up subtly than any anime.
So stop being fucking uptight cunts

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Do you seriously not understand why I was responding to your question with the same question?

>french studios

Roll

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you are probably trying really bad to apply socratic method and trying to act smug without providing any arguments.

Stylized cartoons

roll

80s and/or 90s OVAs.

Rolllin

That's no lady

Okay

I'm guessing you're in your early teens then.

Because my answer would be the same as your answer. It was supposed to be a rhetorical question. I don't know how you missed that.

No, I did not do some scientific analysis to arrive at that number, nor did I sit down and analyse what I had seen in any detail. I just pulled that number out of my arse because:

(1) I knew it would upset you. Who the fuck asks for a specific number in a discussion like this. Do you have autism?

(2) it emphasises my qualitative conclusion of "most anime being degenerate".

(3) I knew that you would not be able to come back with a retort of any quantitative counterclaim. In case you don't understand what that means, it means you would not be able to to come up with a number of your own. Which is poetic because you are asking me for an answer you know I cannot provide, when you yourself could not answer when I returned the question to you.

What is QLARP?

Why is 'soyboy' quickly dying as slang?

What is meme overuse?

What is condescension?

Death note was really good imo.

the real answer i was waiting for is "i don't know the answer". And i was right, you were trying to apply the socratric method in a smug way.
>I knew it would upset you
I'm not upset, you are the one who called me autistc
> I knew that you would not be able to come back with a retort of any quantitative counterclaim
that's not how it works. I didn't stablish a claim i just called your 99% claim as bullshit because you have to be prepared for people questioning your statements.
>In case you don't understand what that means, it means you would not be able to to come up with a number of your own.
I don't need to come with a number on my own when the burden of proof is on you
>Which is poetic because you are asking me for an answer you know I cannot provide
yet you said 99% if you can't provide and answer don't do it. I'am ok with you not knowing, because i don't know either. But your previous statements like in
would make anyone believe that at least more than 50% of anime is "degenerate" by your standarts. You also showed that you don't know too much about anime, asking for recommendations in several posts. So I don't know dude. You tell me.

Even when Japan was much more conservative than it is today, they masturbated to bizarre porn; pic related

The Japanese and the West have very different standards of what is degenerate and what is not.

as opposed to things depicted on the bible or things done in celtic, nordic, roman and greek mythology? mythology is bizarre. The only thing i can safely say is that Japan is a very closed country, but due to the laws allowing a lot of things, the products produced want to be shocking. But that doesn't mean it is accepted widelly on the japanese culture. Which most of you seem to not understand. It seems you can't differenctiate japanese society with anime, even if anime is just a small part of the japanese culture.

>you were trying to apply the socratric method in a smug way.

You do not understand the socratic method. Please read up on it some more.

Let's go over the argument one mroe time.

1. most anime is degenerate.
2. here are some examples of degeneracy in anime
3. here are some more.
4. shit, there's a lot of degeneracy in here, including pedoshit.
5. Seeing as there is so much degeneracy in a lot of different anime, I'm going to say that anime is NOT redpilled.

I don't need to apply any more logic than that. Asking for recommendations means I am open to changing my opinion; it does not invalid my opinions. If anything it strengthens them.

The only person providing any evidence thus far has been me, so don't try and use some magical burden of proof meme to try and jew this argument up.

Fact is, there's a lot of degeneracy in anime. If you aren't aware of this, then the fault is on you.

Roll

I actually enjoyed that because Riko is a useless overconfident cunt. Every scene without became a 9/10 instead of a 6/10. Too bad she didn't lose an arm or die.

I am not defending anime being "redpilled" i don't care about shit like that. I just want to ask for objective facts that can prove that anime is degenerate.
>1. most anime is degenerate.
and i will say no because the burden of proof is on you and one statement wont change what i believe, which is that i don't know and don't care, because i wouldn't watch those anyway.
>2. here are some examples of degeneracy in anime
so far the only objective example you brough was "made in abyss" the whole premise is this beatufil world and shotas as loli
, just to do fucked up shit later as shock value
>3. here are some more.
You have to provide studies or graphs. Like the percentage of harem anime compared to the total ammount of anime content there is. Which is very difficult to do depending on what you count as "anime"
>4. shit, there's a lot of degeneracy in here, including pedoshit.
"pedoshit" that example of "pedoshit" is nothing with things like "a serbian film" and "Salo" untill the 2000s. If you find those parts disturbing don't watch those films. Also i wouldn't count that as "pedoshi" i would count something as "pedoshit" when there are scenes of lolis or shotas depicted sexualy.
>5. Seeing as there is so much degeneracy in a lot of different anime, I'm going to say that anime is NOT redpilled.
We are not arguing the same thing then. You think i am defending anime being "le redpill XD" when i just want to know why anime is degenerate to you. The problem is that you seem to be a puritan who sees degeneracy on a lettuce.

God damn man, put the brakes on your autism train.

Did you seriously just come into a thread to ask for "objective facts" about the degeneracy of anime? Like, you expect some kind of peer-reviewed meta-analysis.

>You have to provide studies or graphs. Like the percentage of harem anime compared to the total ammount of anime content there is

I actually typed all that before reading this part.

I pity you. You have zero chance of functioning in society. You sit in the corner at parties, don't you?

Rolling

>Anime and manga are frowned upon by Japanese society, it is not respected

Lmao theres two whole towns based around weeb shit called Nipponbashi and Akihabara.

Dude, we have Melbourne.

That doesn't mean all of Australia are cocksucking retards.

Roll

>watching anime written by a confirmed degenerate that likes pedo shit on twitter
>surprised
wow user stop being so dumb

All I heard was that it has a decent story. It did, but like a lot of anime, it's filled with weird degenerate shit.

Made in Abyss is special

hm

>part 1 of 2

Jesus christ. It gets worse, doesn't it?

yes, and it's in the same chapter

Then there is no argument. You can say that anime is degenerate all you want. You can cherrypick all you want and i could do the same thing. At this point nothing will change your mind, even though you yourself admited that you don't know too much about anime
>I pity you. You have zero chance of functioning in society. You sit in the corner at parties, don't you?
Nice non argument. One could say that that would be in my favour if i did nothing but watch anime and had no friends, while you talk about one specific anime you find subjectively degenerate, even though you admited not knowing about anime. You are the ones making assumptions here.

>anime is degenerate
>>PROOF???
>here are multiple examples
>>That's cherry picking!!!

You are autistic and retarded.

Rollerino

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>niggers are commit more crime and usually have no jobs
>"T-this one nigger didn't kill or steal and has a decent job!"
>*statistics*
that's how it works. You can't prove or disprove that anime is degenerate or not. You can say that about some shows, but you saying that all anime is degenerate just because this one show you watched then i could say this one anime that treats family values as the key of the plot and we could be going back and forth.
>Y-you are autistic and retarded!
see? It's you who is getting triggered not me.