I believe in freedom

>I believe in freedom
>Freedom and MURDER FOR ANYBODY WHO LOOKS AT PICTURES I DONT LIKE

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cute cunny

I will never forget the day her parents blocked me. She was such an important part of my life.

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liberty is not carte blanche. actions have consequences. you take the liberty to do something wrong and others will take the liberty to correct you

What you just said infringes on my liberty

I'm going to murder you and your entire family in self defense

freedom to murder that vagina!!!!

No. Your freedom does not entitle you to victimize others. If you think it does, then you do not truly believe in freedom, only power.

You seem ignorant of the concept of proportionality.

Are you a pedo? I don’t mind rapists, but pedos is where I draw the line. If you fuck a girl under 14 then so help me God, I will murder you

why did you intentionally fall for the trap?

>looking at pictures victimizes people.

Assuming they're pictures of victimization it is the photographer who is the victimizer.

>going to jail up to being executed for looking at pictures
>Allow me to lecture you on proportionality

TITS OR GTFO

What is externalities

Drop dead

you can try..

tertiary affects which are the responsibility of those that perpetrate them.

Liberty is not libertine

Gas yourself, pedo kike scum

Freedom has always came with responsibilities. That is one of the core ideas in a free society. I mean we could go the an-cap route, but that's not a liberal democracy, which is what America is.

Your post is unappreciated.

I've been looking for a model for my next photography project, and as soon as I saw you, I knew you were the perfect one. It's an important project. Have your mom give me a call.

Doing illegal things is illegal. Incentivizing illegal activity monetarily it otherwise is also illegal. Pedophilia is so bad that even owning the content is deemed to encourage its production enough to warrant arrest.

what are the responsibilities of freedom beyond not infringing on the freedom of others?

Presuming the worst case scenario:
>images or video of explicit abuse
How does merely consuming the media implicate you in any wrong doing? Of course, I concede, paying someone (even after the fact) to, or for, the product of a crime is itself a crime (moral crime), but we're not talking about that. We're talking about the transfer of moral responsibility from a physical perpetrator to a remote viewer of a record.
What if the images are 50 years old?
What if the perpetrator in the images has been brought to justice?
What if the victim in the images grants public permission to view the material after they're 18?

See

>looking at childporn is basic freedom of expression and not the (mostly)indirect exploration of children
>freedom of expression/speech/etc. is somehow a free pass to exploit children
This is why you should die in a fire. I'm happy to let you do it yourself, if having me do it bothers you so much.
Seriously, childfuckers like you (at any socioeconomic level) should die in a fire or get shot. Go stay with the commies if you want any relief, but they (like you) are on the list.

>muh feels

Nice non-argument

I don't think I care for what you're implying. Not one bit.

If you are a pedo, you deserve to be gassed.
I believe in freedom up to the point that it infringes on the freedom of others then it should be the rope for you.

I would personally enjoy watching you get gang raped and fucked in stab holes by massive dragon cocks, pedo scum.

yes, yes, and also yes. But, what's the argument for the last point?

>Pedophilia is so bad that even owning the content is deemed to encourage its production enough to warrant arrest.

According to what? What's the rational for this?

>pedophelia is so bad
Yeah it's bad, and having sex with children is bad because it harms them.

> owning the content is deemed to encourage its production
This isn't my responsibility. Those that perpetrate the actual victimization are responsible for the acts. You can't hold hypothetical 3rd parties responsible. If Tyrone steals a Rolex and everyone at the club asks him for the time are they implicated in the theft?

Well yeah it is arbitrary. All punishments are based on arbitrary decisions of how bad things are. Pedophilia was deemed bad arbitrarily, but it was also made by society. If you don't like it you can say it is dumb and arbitrary, and to an extent you are right, but society is also just fine in telling you to fuck off reguardless.

So then you agree that jailing people for merely owning (not even consuming) certain media is a violation of natural rights?

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better off dead

I don't believe natural rights exist. Natural rights we're just rights lifted from Christian traditions and secularized without any real basis in (((nature)))

Were*

There is literally nothing wrong with consensual sex with children. It's mutually beneficial. Also heroin has its benefits

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Indeed.

Who is she?

Go back to 8 you sick fuck

>implying you wont eventually get desensitized to images and tempted to go further

You should be publicly castrated m8. Skinners are not human. If you had any self awareness you'd kys

>Flag
Seems about right.

then you're not even arguing the point in the OP

kill yourself

> Freedom to kill
Yes, that is the essence of anarchy.
This is why we invented "rights" for you. You do not have "freedom", but you have rights for anything, what is not harmful in freedom. For anything what actually benefits the nation. Or at least is not harming it.

>I don't mind rapists
Kek

Freedom comes with responsibilities. That has always been the deal. And the only system that is in the vein of what the OP means is anarcho-capitalism which we all know how that works out. The true mistake is OP assuming that any society actually implements an an-cap system.

> there is a time to serve in anarchy
Not.

>the nation
Society comes before the nation in most western countries, Ivan. Still hungover from the soviet union, I see.

K let's not imply

That doesn't happen. The kinds of people that "go further" or actually become rapists were not completely fine until one day they saw a prepubescent nipple. Same with video games and violence or porn and the rape of adult women. There's no evidence for it, and the few cases you could cherry pick to try and deduce causation are actually from a common cause.

But it doesnt matter because until you commit the crime you aren't guilty of it. Raising your hand precedes plunging the knife, but the raising of the hand is not the crime.

KYS
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what if i don't believe in freedom

> Russia is an-cap

but you dont actually believe in freedom so what you're saying makes sense.
For you freedom is permission granted to you by authority. Even if it is, like you're saying, arbitrary. It's right because they say it's right. There need not be an underlying truth.

Well there are lots of countries where having sex with children is not illegal. Is it morally correct to do so in those countries? Or are moral truths only the product of one authority? What could possibly make one authority more moral than another if not a greater adherence to an underlying moral truth?

*does not make sense

What's wrong with consensual man - girl sexual relationships user? In a free utopian society without a state all individuals should able to chose who they want to engage in sex with. Age of consent laws are ageist discrimination by the state.

Nation comes first in all the countries that have any kind of functioning economy. All the individualism statistic shows, that collectivism demand was coped with.

You are perfectly aware of that. But you are either in denial, or a partisan hack. I can not give a chance of you being a retard, because that would be just too easy. Considering your flag, I can see you deserve to be nuked.

You have no problem supporting people who
murder for less.

>Raising your hand precedes plunging the knife, but the raising of the hand is not the crime.

If the police see you raise your hand at them, they're not going to wait til you stab them, they're gonna shoot you just to be safe.

>Freedom is permission granted by an authority.
Yes. Freedom can be defined by the things you can do or the things you can do. If some things are good and some are bad you can define by the things that you can do or the thing you can't. It makes no difference. Also if you have a governing body at all you can define freedom as that which it allows or by that which I'd dosent allow. Both will define freedom.

>There need not be an underlying truth
There is no underlying truth. Everything has to be defined arbitrarily at some point.

As for your second paragraph you are right. Those authorities, which are themselves authorities that arise from a collective if individuals, can act in whatever way they deem moral, which is arbitrary.

Theoretically kids cant give consent in America society. That is why they cant have sex, sign contracts, etc. In an-cap society anything goes I agree.

Attempts to do things are also illegal. If your actions are defined as sufficient proof of attempt then yeah you can be arrested. Not to mention one of the roles of imprisonment is prevention.

Degenerate

And so is Haiti

So you would support legislation that allowed cops to kill everyone who watched liveleak videos since they were on the path to becoming murderers?

What about just legalizing murder of people who watch porn since they're potential rapists?

Not only that degenerate but also
>My degeneracy is moral because I define it to be so, but my definition of moral is the real definition trust me.

So if you gave candy to a kid you should go to jail... since they can't consent to that transaction?

Your logic isn't complete, you utter retard.

Well England outlawed rape porn so its not like those standards haven't been upheld.

Wrong. People have consent age much earlier than legal age.

The problem is - nobody is training them to make the right decisions. They are only trained to follow the tutor.

You clearly don't know the definition of a "transaction" you fucking sped

Can a child consent to buying candy, you fucking idiot?

>this logic
if all of it is arbitrary, there is no good or evil, no morality. They're all empty words. Please stop talking about building a society on emptyness. Embrace God and his ultimate law, which provides objective good and objective bad. Fuck atheism for exactly this problem. If everything is arbitrary, there's literally no meaning to all of it. Raping a child and helping the elderly cross the street carry the exact same meaning, that is, none. Life is worthless and my suicidal feelings are actually correct, since none of anything matters in the slightest. This kind of morality by some materialistic authority or rather a majority is absolute trash.

You can't consent to something when you don't understand what you are consenting to. The law reflects the age at which someone can be assumed to understand what they are consenting to. That why is a bit different for the mentally impaired.

I'm eating sunflower seeds.

Top lel

can adult retards consent?

Cool. I'm eating curry.

Yeah but it is correct. I know it sucks, but there is no intrinsic meaning to any act.
>Morality by authority
This is basically what modern societys have been organized assuming, and in the end even the idea that individuals should be self determining is an idea firmly rooted in the Bible which is where Western society has lifted it from.

It's basic psychology
OP thinks it's okay to save pictures like the one he has
Then he'll keep making excuses for his degeneracy, devolving into CP and resulting in being party V&

Decided by the court. In many cases no they can't.

You can't consent to something you don't understand. Consent laws reflect the age at which you can be assumed to be able to understand and this consent to certain activities.

Also.
>I don't like the argument so I'ma call it trash
If you don't know how to argue around this then you haven't caught up to modern philosophy. You can't argue from any kind of (((Truth))) because who gets to decide what (((truth))) is.

who is this semen demon?

Those digits...

Watching liveleak & fucked up videos will desensitize your brain subconsciously.
Example:columbine kids mentally prepared by watching fucked up vids.
Rape porn and porn are not the same.
Also murderers are still human, skinners are not

You faggots never watched CP your entire life.

>6666
Fitting

There's nothing wrong with going slow into a tight virginal little 9 year old pussy.

skinners?

why make up new words and meanings?
like "short eyes"

someone who skins animals

You've never seen this person here before?

>if you gave candy to a kid
>gave

That's not buying, they're not giving you anything in exchange you fucking worm

>Going slow
That's your first mistake

I'll admit she looks vaguely familiar

Ah so hard and fast.

>(((she)))
user...

Now you're on the right track

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Kek'd and checked.

>it's legal to own beheading videos, organ harvesting videos, extreme torture, mutilation and gore videos
>it's illegal to have vid of 13yo girl masturbating on webcam by her own volition
normiefag social mores and taboos are pretty funny