>"The descriptive claims about race and IQ may be true"
>"But ethno states are still evil and therefore the descriptive aspect be wrong, and defending the science is wrong"
He's about as much as a brainlet as he is a manlet. Justify yourselves desTinies..
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>"The descriptive claims about race and IQ may be true"
>"But ethno states are still evil and therefore the descriptive aspect be wrong, and defending the science is wrong"
I'm perfectly happy if this is all we can get out of the skeptics and normies. It sets a precedent for the future and shifts the overton window in the right direction.
Don't push them too hard yet.
Why do we keep getting BTFO by Destiny? Don’t we have any smart people in the alt right?
Science didn't even exist until the status quo was changed. The reason intellectualism exists is due to the left wing. Of course the right is going to get beat.
The sad thing is that this could be a comment supposedly made in good faith
A moral relativist that told vegan gains it’s okay to skin dogs alive and massacre natives that can’t act on “social contracts” is saying it’s inherently wrong to preserve races in ethno states and that it’s even objectively wrong to discuss race realism ?
Destiny is a good debater and I like his videos but he is not very consistent.
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Even your own safe space thinks he lost LOL
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF DENIAL
It’s funny how he won’t even acknowledge the black crime states when that alternative guy showed up.
Pseudo intellectual kneejerkery
>a youtuber is retarded
jeez what a surprise
The Alternative Hypothesis says that skepticism accept the roots but not the tree that sprouts from them. Meaning they admit that race influences IQ and crime and stuff but deny the consequences that result from admitting that for purely political and philosophical purposes
Kill the midget! He has treasure nearby.
He resorted to ad-homenims? What a shit critique. That's not his biggest problem.
Destiny's problem, among other race-deniers/multi-racialists is approaching the debate within the mechanical framework of trying to measure differences and expect nothing less than absolute empirical demarcations in order proclaim that there's enough differentiation to call something x and y. "If members of different races can interbreed and don't have all traits listed on criteria x, then race don't real".
It's like saying that water and soil don't real because marshes comprise of both.
Now someone just needs to Nietzschepill the fucker. His "evil" is not a real thing, it's the internalized command of another person. Give him Nietzsche, Starting Strength, and some meat and he could attain a mature masculine outlook, his physiognomy looks fine
>Ethnostates are evil
Does he say why?
>defending the science is wrong
Lmao apex retard here
What the fuck an ''ethno state'' even supposed to be?
Fucking jews larping as right wing and the retards not realizing its their modern attempts at highjaking the movement, because peoples are starting to realize at an exponentially greater rate that pretty much everything we're got told about them was the source of propaganda from allied sources with the aim of demonizing them rather than their genuine intentions. So now they created the ''alt-right'' out of thin air and suprise suprise, they pretend to be a less extreme right wing than nazi yet eagerly espouses the very same concept they demonized the nazi for!
Basically, they're trying to solidify the narrative that the Nazis were race supremacist in the modern general populace mind by making their modern iteration of the ideology, the ''alt-right'' openly espouses these ideals, which protip never were part of the Nazis party in the first place and was the result of allied propaganda.
Always does the opposite of what a Jews tell you, and if both side are Jewish, then it mean that the entire conflict is a falsity and no side should be taken.
I don't get why they can't accept the science and reject the ideologies.
I can only conclude that they're racists at heart and are only stayed by erroneous beliefs on matters of fact.
Racial discrimination is not wrong because races are all the same. It is wrong because it violates the rights of individuals. We should encourage and support (not with welfare) members of any race that are exceptional, or at least achieve a bare minimum of behavior and productivity, and shun those that do not.
The reality of general racial differences should not change how you deal with individual people in your everyday life.
destiny is just an agent of the status quo, he debates to prop it up and reinforce it, not to arrive at any sort of truth
>The reality of general racial differences should not change how you deal with individual people in your everyday life.
That's assuming you have the ample time and setting to evaluate everyone you encounter.
If I only knew an applicant's race and I was hiring IT positions, I'd positively discriminate against white and Asian applicants.
>The reality of general racial differences should not change how you deal with individual people in your everyday life.
this is a stupid copout, if you are aware of broad intergroup differences you treat people accordingly, and it is not wrong to do so either, the same way you treat dogs and wolves differently even if tame wolves and feral dogs may exist
Double trips don't lie.
Owned by Ryan "fix your language" Faulk.
This wrong as it rejects the idea that value cannot be placed on race in of itself and takes a position that I have some moral obligation to anyone which is simply not true.
White people do not have moral obligation to accept nonwhites.
dare I say it...
that we can't bestiny the destiny??
Pretty much this. Unlike what his pet geneticist told him on stream, identifying subspecies isn't some sort of hard science with objective standards of genetic clustering.
Do you actually believe destiny won or are you just shitposting?
His arguments degenerated into saying you have a moral obligation to date transexuals.
I hope this insufferable gnome dies so his army of faggot shills finally fuck off. Worst attempt at forcing a meme since Milhouse.
Rofl..
I love how his end-argument is just "Okay... :( " and then he shuts up.
jaba you in here bro?
Low-Testiny just cant handle that white women wont fuck manlets like him.
Or any race of women for that matter.
>all debate positions based of feels rather than facts and logic
My heavens, look at the time!
The left believes 76 genders exist.
Don't try and tell me they are the "logical side"
these fucking "people" are mentally ill
You're just worried because your king has been slain. Now all you can do is run.
What's the wage gap between those 76 gender?
how does destiny's dick taste?
But TheAltHype has always been the final boss. Not JF.
>reddit.com
kek
JF unironically wiped the floor with Destiny.
I agree. Just talking about the differences will bring about a division soon enough.
nice strawman.
why is there 3+ thread about this fucking idiot?
Here let me help you.
When you're talking about an ethnostate you're also implying the extermination of non-white people while doing so.
Which makes it wrong, that wasn't hard to grasp right?
Numbers, stats, facts all enemies of the nigger.
Logic? Yea right, another oppressor of the nig.
reminder that redditor desticucks neofags raid these threads
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I think he is highly intelligent, but his mental capacity to create rationales for his gut feelings kind of fucks with him.
>I wouldn't fuck a tranny because I like vaginal sex. BS, he has a gut reaction to make offspring and trannies don't cut it. Then his consciousness enters the scene and turns it into sexual compatibility because it conforms with his world view.
>pic also related
>When you're talking about an ethnostate you're also implying the extermination of non-white people while doing so.
It's not implied at all. Ever heard of displacement and relocation?
But those people are all tearing the alt-right apart
ethnostate is moronic. majority of the alt right dont even want an ethnostate. they want civil nationalism. But they just want to move the overton window to head in the right direction.
Nobody will fall for it. They're just going to make it worse.
>I think he is highly intelligent
Your ability to zerg rush isn't commensurate with one's ability to debate.
Easy there, I think separation or balkanization. Way to go off the deep end Paco.
I'm not using the vague umbrella term of "alt-right". And how's an ethnostate moronic? Is there a more naturally-reinforced than a desire for a homogeneous state? As in springing up organically.
Ok then, what if they dont want to "move" because they were fucking born there.
"Ever heard of displacement and relocation?"
You mean genocide? I'm glad we came to the same conclusion
>Ok then, what if they dont want to "move" because they were fucking born there.
Is moralism the scaffolding of all your political thought. Can't anything be consequentialistic?
>You mean genocide? I'm glad we came to the same conclusion
There's a crystal-clear difference between destroying a population and relocating it.
Isn't this already widely accepted?
how about that whites are genetically more altruistic? which makes the aim of an ethnostate impossible. sounds like your going AGAINST nature if you want an ethnostate as a white person. try and wriggle out of that one
>Your ability to zerg rush isn't commensurate with one's ability to debate.
True, but then again. Even something as simple as zerg-rushing and strategizing in a high pace game requires some level of cognitive ability.
He is well read on most topics, but his ideology is cringy as fuck. I think he will turn to the dark side by next new year. Once he realizes that accepting the concept of races and trait heritability doesn't mean you have to be a white supremacist he will accept it.
We will dissociate from the parasites and let them keep the land, then our descendants will take it back. It's called conquest and you can cry your eyes out about how awful that is but everyone does it.
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The idea of mass nonwhite invasions were extremely unpopular ideas until recently.
And how "altruistic" are white people in economic climates not characterized by general product gluts? What are implicit association test scores like in any given economic evironment?
>Dude I think Ryan hate brownies lol.
He is completely duplicitous. He doesnt argue in good faith and freely admitted it. He seeks to push an ideology and will manipulate reality to achieve such ideology
Example: In the debate we just had he patronised and made fun of Tara for her suggesting that there is a huge problem with people overstaying visas in the US.
YET, he actually stated that this WAS a problem during his debate with Mr Metokur.
He straight up lied and used rhetorical patronising on Tara whilst his fans spammed the JF was "whiteknighting" Tara.
Very strange that Destiny and his leftist clique would resort to that rhetoric but it can only mean that they have entered the fight mentality. That is the arena of rhetoric is all tha tmatters now and their values WILL be tossed aside to achieve their goals, that even means using what they would used to consider sexist rhetoric such as "white knighting" if it means denigrating a female they see as a political foe.
>Why do we keep getting BTFO by Destiny
>Taking serious a brainlet midget
>He's actually a fucking retard
>wanting 2 live with other ppl who u want 2 live with is inherently evil
this is the 21st century right?
why is he wearing a winter coat inside?
He's autistic, and it advantages him in children's games. You'd think smart people would be better able to see though prestige politics, Destiny's views are highly pre-calculated for maximum social benefit. Why? To compensate for being a malporportioned borderline midget?
Why is it wrong to exterminate non whites?
wdhmbt? He kept saying it
mans not hot
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Calm down Veruca Salt. There are still ways to stop mass immigration without cying about it and resorting to an ethnostate. Jesus christ you are so use to the instant gratification you get from the internet that you resort to these moronic collective tactics because youre so impatient and shitting your pants.
Have you ever considered that your tolerance for change is shorter then the time it takes for things to change? and youre actually part of the problem and not the solution?
he's autistic
OKAY FAGGOT YOU JUST MADE A HUGE FUCKING MISTAKE. YOU HAD THE OPTION TO LEAVE THE THREAD WHEN ASKED BUT YOU DIDN’T TAKE THE DIPLOMATIC WAY OUT.
I’LL SERIOUSLY WIRE THE MONEY TO WHATEVER PORTUGUESE ARMPIT YOU LIVE IN TO PAY FOR YOUR FLIGHT TICKET. IS ASSUMING THAT IT EVEN HAS WESTERN UNIONS AND AIRPORTS GIVING YOUR DEFORMED TURD COUNTRY GIVING YOU TOO MUCH CREDIT? BETTER YET, I’LL PAY YOUR LOST WAGES FOR WHATEVER CORNER FRUIT WAGON SALESMAN JOB YOU’VE MANAGED TO SECURE WHICH YOU PROBABLY DO UNDER THE TABLE SO YOU CAN RECEIVE UNEMPLOYMENT. I’M, SURE YOUR MOM HAS ALREADY PAID THIS MONTH’S RENT. SO I’LL DON’T WORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU BETTER START LIFTING BEFORE YOU’LL ARRIVE, I’VE BEEN PRACTICING BRAZILIAN JEV JITSU SINCE BEFORE YOUR COUNTRY EVEN HAD DEMOCRACY AND I LIFT EVER DAY. WHAT’S YOUR FUCKING EMAIL ADDRESS?
I'm center right and Destiny made Tara look like the retard she is. He won this round. She's a fucking idiot.
What is the mental illness that stops alt righters from processing the English language?
>Destiny is a good debater
Remember when he lost to Sargon of all people?
>Starting Strength
Better not
>>"The descriptive claims about race and IQ may be true"
This is a biological essentialist position which rejects social constructionism. Basically, he's a nazi now.
yes exactly. Most if not every new comer to this debate, unhindered by marxist brainwashing/personal bias, with the ability to think critically, will see that statement and just go: "that is some retarded shit". All we have to do for now is get people to cede these facts and we can rest assured the next generation will take it to the next step.
Face it cucks, you can't win with supreme intellect of your opponent.
I just wish leftists would debate Jared Taylor. Of course after the debacle with Tim Wise I suppose it's understandable; no one wants to debate when you know you're wrong.
>center
>flag
>center
No you're not, you're a lying shithead. All destiny did was insult, ad hominem, and misrepresent her. Basically, he bullied a little girl.
>Destiny is a good debater
No he's disingenuous and pedantic in attempts to divert away from the main point. His only redeeming quality is he speaks fast so he seems smart.
>ethno states are still evil
>there's nothing inherently wrong with child pornography tho
ultimate goy
>what if i try really hard
I just think he hasn't found a way to make facts work inside his world view. Until then he will defend his world view.
This is why my prediction is that he will be a "race realist" by next new year.
And yes, being effective in a debate takes skill and intelligence, even if the tactics are dishonest.
>Meaning they admit that race influences IQ and crime and stuff but deny the consequences that result from admitting that for purely political and philosophical purposes
Because ppl like Destiny see exactly what the Alt Right and White Identitarians are trying to justify with said data, that's why no one bought Tara&AltHype methods how to achieve *peaceful* ethnic cleansing. Just look how people in that group speak on black people for evidence. They always attach a series of severely negative traits that are determined to be inherent and immutable as a way to strip them of their humanity, and they're doing that for reason.
For example, alt righters constantly claim that blacks have extraordinarily low IQs, lazy, parasites, lack executive functioning, lack empathy, prone to inhumane acts of violence at the drop of the hat, will automatically attempt to kill whites if they out # them, will always vote against whites in a democracy, and they are ultimately unchangeable in a biological sense meaning that these traits are fixed forever. You see, when you constrain blacks to said characteristics and declare them as immutable, the idea that white nationalist would go out of their way to make sure blacks are *safely* removed from white society is completely ridiculous, you don't even seem as people, they see them as the embodiment of evil.
No, all this talk about paying them off, peaceful deportation, and etc is complete bullshit to hide their agenda. No white nationalist is sacrificing a fucking thing for a black. Their citizenship will be stripped, then they will be threatened to leave or be killed, and we all know that's the logical end game of white nationalism.
but what about the fact that most if not all the greatest philosophical writers would shit all over the current rhetoric from the left? What about the Renaissance and Newton, and stuff? What about the big bang theory and the catholic priest that first proposed it?
That, and he supports the social consensus opinions of ignorant people, that being that whitey be ebul and blacks dindu nuffin. Stupid people like to get their opinions confirmed by media figures.
I feel like most of his opponents never go too hard on him. They let him make many arguments that are simply based on emotion and the fear about ''the consequences'' of whatever is against his worldview might be.
The only people that challenged him on his bs was Sargon and Naked Ape.
The only way to restore the nation is through the implementation of soft eugenics policies with the explicit goal of the formation of an ethnostate.
It's implicit in everything that is believed.
wow you sure sound like a faggot. he bullied a little girl? sounds to me like your ex still has your balls mate. get them back or grow a pair
He's basically admitting that denial of race is a religious belief.
That's the absolute state of the "skeptic" community.
>the alt right masterminds ever managed to actually address the consequences of their race realism.
Well alt-right masterminds, I missed it. What is the consequences of your "race realism"?
Well, his ego makes him incapable of admitting when he's wrong, and he has accepted the essentialist position that racial differences exist. So now what will happen is that other lefties will begin to criticize him for straying from the party line that race is a social construct. When that happens, you're right. His stubbornness will force him to race realism.
Lets just strip our all your hyperbolic rhetoric and post a clear fact.
Just because someone is dumb doesn't mean you have the right to dehumanize him, somehow that is a hard concept to grasp for "people" like you though.
>Race realism is real but ehh I don’t wanna account for it in my philosophy cuz I don’t wanna look like those Natsys