>It seems like just the other day that Reddit finally banned a handful of its most hateful and deplorable subreddits, including r/coontown and r/fatpeoplehate. The move was, at the time, derided by some as pointless, akin to shooing criminals away from one neighborhood only to trouble another. But a new study shows that, for Reddit at least, it has had lasting positive effects.
>Researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology took this question seriously, as until someone actually investigates whether such bans are helpful, harmful or some mix thereof, it’s all speculation. So they took a major corpus of Reddit data (compiled by PushShift.io) and examined exactly what happened to the hate speech and purveyors thereof, with the two aforementioned subreddits as case studies.
>Essentially they looked at the thousands of users that made up CT and FPH (as they call them) and quantified their hate speech usage. They then compared this pre-ban data to the same users post-ban: how much hate speech they produced, where they “migrated” to (i.e. duplicate subreddits, related ones, etc.) and whether “invaded” subreddits experienced spikes in hate speech as a result. Control groups were created by observing the activity of similar subreddits that weren’t banned.
Conclusions: >Post-ban, hate speech by the same users was reduced by as much as 80-90 percent. >Members of banned communities left Reddit at significantly higher rates than control groups. >Migration was common, both to similar subreddits (i.e. overtly racist ones) and tangentially related ones (r/The_Donald). >However, within those communities, hate speech did not reliably increase, although there were slight bumps as the invaders encountered and tested new rules and moderators.
Most of them just moved to pol and became far more "hateful"
This "study" is a meme.
Luke Ross
>Most Toxic Subreddits what does this mean by this
Connor Phillips
>censorship works Nice
Brandon Cooper
Well yeah they just left reddit.
Joseph Walker
You ban places for people to discuss a certain topic, they stop talking about it or move to another place that does. You won't find people spewing things like "I hate niggers" in places like r/aww.
Blake Kelly
>Judeo-censorship works
wow who would've thought
Jaxon Parker
censorship great idea op. you nigger faggot
Nathaniel Butler
>Decrease the popular places where """hate speech""" is allowed >hate speech goes down
SHOCKING
Kevin Peterson
Sup Forums was never left, /new/ was fucking neo-nazi.
Grayson Jenkins
i want to see how many people kicked their dog after they got banned
Landon Hernandez
The board's name is literally 'Politically Incorrect'. We come here specifically to post things that are not PC and would get us banned almost anywhere else.
Why the fuck do you want this gathering closed? We will scatter to every corner of the internet and shit up every last website and there will be no warning for raids. You only hurt yourself by losing sight of the enemy, baaaka.
Dylan King
> Reddit > pro net neutrality > pro censorship
Leo Clark
banning thing results in less of thing...
Blake Fisher
If you ban your enemies, you win
Henry Watson
Coontown came to pol and fph came to /fit/
Parker Green
>study finds things banned from reddit are no longer on reddit
holy shit OP
Christopher Harris
ITT: people who unironically think banning a thought makes it go away.
John Gonzalez
powerful study
Benjamin Howard
/thread
Liam White
...
Noah Lewis
Georgia Tech a communist fat coon school as a reliable source.
Samuel Carter
You can't just post this and expect me not to laugh. I'm trying to imagine the posters that do this meme
Caleb Brown
>study confirms something obvious Why are there so many studies for common sense shit? "Bans work" isn't groundbreaking. To think that money was spent on this worthless research is infuriating.
Adrian Anderson
except that reddit is the 8th most visited site in the world while Sup Forums is 86,723th so no one cares enoug to censor it
Jonathan Butler
I was there when they banned r/jailbait and the images posted there weren't even illegal. The worst of them were swimsuits.
Jacob Jones
Censorship works, that's the issue.
Blake Barnes
>if you ban "hatespeech" you see less "hatespeech" >if you ban users, you see fewer users
Uh... OK?
Dylan Nguyen
I miss r/coontown
Juan Kelly
>move from one overtly racist place to another overtly racist place >hate speech did not increase
No shit, their entire discourse is predicated on what these people would consider "hate speech". You can't go over 100%.
Leo Garcia
>literally EVERYONE agrees with us >(after we ban everyone who doesn't) dae fucking love science?
Matthew Lewis
...
Elijah Murphy
What does dae mean?
Kevin White
Simply deplatforming them won't be enough.
Lincoln Perry
Delete Sup Forums and permaban for frogposting
I believe in the second coming of moot
Gabriel Allen
>a study of subreddits quality college education there
Adrian Roberts
>r/neofag banned such bullshit
Nathan Cook
Or our innate structure prevents it to a certain degree. Sup Forums was designed the way it was for a reason. It has barely changed in 12 years for the same reasons.
James Wright
>Delete Sup Forums unironically this. Or remember when captcha was removed from Sup Forums? Do that again. This place has got stale and unfunny now
Josiah Evans
THEY KILLED r/FATPEOPLEHATE!?
Levi Murphy
Reddit is already so restrained with its obvious bias. Yeah, the users left... And they're never coming back. gg no re
Andrew Brown
There are millions of more homeless people than presidents of the United States so obviously homeless people matter and who cares about presidents!
Justin White
Yes apparently they deemed it hateful.
Easton Cox
It's r*ddit-speak for "I'm a faggot and I love sucking nigger dicks"
Kevin Roberts
Hateful to obese bastards who won't take care of themselves!
James Anderson
>Sup Forums is 86,723th Maybe you should post a source before you start spouting bullshit.
If you're scattered to every corner of the internet you can't organize your autistic crusades or try to bring back nazism past the edgy meme phase
Liam Martin
>Wonder when this will be applied to Sup Forums so it'll turn left again, like in the old days :) Sup Forums has never been left. Nor were /new/ and /n/(news was the original /n/). The latter were both deleted twice for "being stormfront". In fact, the farther back you go, the more overtly fascist the board is.
Gavin Garcia
r/fuckwhitepeople is ok though
Camden Rivera
This is all predicated on the false assumption that what was taking place in these sub reddits was bad. "hate speech" is a bullshit term meant meant to marginalize and demonize perfectly reasonable opinion. Human bio diversity is real and no amount of suppression or demonization will change the growing list of inconvenient facts, even if these facts are later classified as "hate facts". The authoritarians guarding the status quo are looking for reasons to suppress free speech just as members of the religious hierarchy sought to suppress the growing understanding of our earth and its place in the cosmos in order to protect the old order. It will not work. The cats out of the bag. Behavior is heritable and racial genetic clusters are real, not imagined. No modern day Spanish inquisition is going to stop the spread and increase in this knowledge and even if researc h is outlawed in the west it will flourish in China and Japan. The religious verities crumbled under the weight of science as so to will the racial egalitarian "verities" of today.
Forcing an idea into an obscure echo chamber DOES make it harmless and ineffectual though...
Grayson Robinson
Oh wow, I didn't know user was a BBC loving fag. He seemed like such a cool guy.
Adam Nelson
Lefties wonder why people hate them. Their continual obsession with just lying all the fucking time.
Jace Torres
>hate facts Please tell me that that is not a thing.
Jace Taylor
moot tried to ban all of Sup Forums before. it fucked the entire site beyond repair due to the migration that took place.
Ryder Watson
But the right way to look at it is they are obese due to not taking care of themselves at no fault of their own, or the evil food corporations with their suggestive commercials made me eat it.
Samuel White
>if we censor people with oposing views they wont speak O...k? If anything this is fuel to defend free speech and not fall into a censored world
Hudson Martinez
Sup Forums is Sup Forums.
Isaiah Nelson
>86,723th Too high. We need to cleanse this place of newfags.
Grayson Jackson
A typical, leftard, imbecillic study; That study in a nutshell literally states : Deleting all (((hate speech))) resulted in (((hate speech))) deleted.
Wow. Only ppl as retarded as leftists find this amazingly surprising ans awsome.
I mean even a dead monkey could have concluded that on its own, without any study. It's literally retarded. It's literally leftist.
Carson Evans
or they jsut made new accounts lol
i make new reddit accoutns daily because i cant go a day or two of posting without getting banned by the cucks in /r/canada
i have made posts that cite scientific studies, fully backed by the data and no opinionated at all and been banned for racism
any science that hurts feels = racist
so yeah this study is a piece of shit, plus you can torture numbers till they tell you whatever you want to hear, its incredibly easy to fudge regression
Thomas Edwards
>I CAN'T SO IT SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN i can't get over how bafflingly stupid this logic is. /r/politics is basically unusable unless you're a tie-dye haired carousel of self-diagnosed mental issues. I'm thinking they're classifying Hate speech in a way to make their numbers work.
Cooper Price
>wasn't around for /new/s deletion The problem was the overreaction from the leftard mods and libtards
Josiah Allen
I don't think this excuse is going to fly big guy, the fellas over at Reddit seemed to have made up their mind, "NO WALL, NO KKK, NO RACIST USA, goy"
Grayson Turner
>make certain speech illegal >people stop saying it But it sure didn't save the USSR.
Gabriel Reyes
>moot tried to ban all of Sup Forums before You mean old /new/? Right?
Jackson Rodriguez
This ban literally created an exodus and permanent demographic of shill hating assholes who then came back for the election, angry and inspired. It was gamergate for older guys like me who haven't gamed in a decade.
Well done, guys. Well done. Seriously. Thank you for firing Victoria and turning AMAs into shillfests and passing the way for the Trump era of global butthurt.
We never could have done it without you.
Wyatt Martinez
>try to act like a smartarse >while agreeing with the post you're trying to contradict Spastic.
Brody Hill
>toxic subreddits You are like little baby
Hudson Martinez
You really think the OP, who thinks "old Sup Forums was lefty" would know what /new/ was?
Jose Murphy
>when your ideology does not stand up to competition and requires a highly moderated place to survive
Wewlad
Kayden Ramirez
Because many of these studies are done by grad students with absolutely no drive or creativity so they make up "studies" to confirm self-evident information to continue to get government grant gibsmedat.
Jaxson Hughes
So let me get this straight ... Banning the fringe groups where people can freely talk about stuff defined as "hate speech" leads to those users leaving the site or using less hate speech. And this is deemed a "success".
To illustrate this idiocy, imagine banning hockey subreddits, discovering that less people on Reddit were discussing hockey, and then saying that this means people are playing less hockey in the world.
Georgia Institute of Technology (GIT) is run by retarded niggers.
Liam Taylor
Are you retarded son? I'll explain it for you you fucking retard, /new/ deletion was worse and it had nothing to do with migration. Go back to redit you low iq soy boy cunt.
Anthony Brown
Because it isnt actually serious hate dumbass
Jeremiah Sullivan
>the USSR The USSR failed for economic reasons bad comparison, not because people wanted Communism to be replaced. youtube.com/watch?v=_1d3Kxx36gY
Nicholas Johnson
>proceeds to agree again without even realising it Oh deary deary me.
Austin Miller
Its on voat now
Charles Roberts
They need to hurry up and ban /r/kotakuinaction
Wyatt Williams
>so angry he can't even quote right >and he's still embarrasing himself lmao
Adrian Harris
>censorship is effective news at ten
Adam Nguyen
Firstly I wasn't agreeing with you Secondly you can't read and are a fool. I mean you can actually see i'm talking about something else. Typical Brit cuck
Connor Turner
>The USSR failed for economic reasons (communism) ... , not because people wanted Communism to be replaced.
Thats another nice display of leftism being a mental disability
Kevin Sanchez
>censorship makes the stuff you censored occur less HOLY FUKCING SHIT EGGS DEE
William Powell
Not as angry you are when you look at your dick.
Caleb James
>muh hate speeeche No such thing, faggot
Caleb Sanchez
>deleted his EMBARASSING post to try to save face
Leo Bennett
>r/canada >canadian fuckin redditors how fag can a group get?
Adrian Sanchez
0/10 leftist troll.
Matthew Roberts
fpbp
Eli Morgan
Communism fails because it's an ideology for losers
Jaxon Young
There was the roody-poo time too.
Blake Green
Maybe he was just pretending to be retarded?
Jonathan Perez
>tfw no funny word filters just the same nigger ones forever
Leo Jones
>You have to go back (to reddit???) Was the victoria thing that big of a deal?
Chase Ortiz
>when burger millennial talked about shit which he doesn't know
Nigga, you went full retard.
USSR falls because every major nations in USSR sees than system doesn't work.
