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Red pill me on Erwin Rommel and why you think he became the kikes favorite nazi and posterchild after ww2.

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>Red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)
Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was one of German's most popular generals during World War II, and gained his enemies' respect with his victories as commander of the Afrika Korps. Implicated in a plot to overthrow Hitler, Rommel took his life in 1944.

Fuck off you autist.

He was an idealist. He was both respected by his own soldiers as well as his enemies. He also was one of Hitler's best friends. After the whole story with Stauffenberg it was not even that clear how mich he knew about the whole assassination plot. Hitler even wanted to spare him at first but his enemies in the Wehrmacht (and he had many) were siccessful at pushing Hitler towards the decision to eliminate him.

>hitler wanted to eliminate him
Is this why kikes push the narrative of him being a good goy?

It all makes sense now. Portray Rommel as the good guy, which he objectively was, in order to get to Hitler.

Uhm no, you misunderstood that. Hitler liked the guy so much even after he heard that Rommel may have been involved in the assassination plot against him he wanted to SPARE him at first! But Rommel had enemies among the other generals (and Himmler did hate Rommel too) so they swayed the Fuehrer to get him killed for the alleged treason.

Because they needed to lionize their opponents (to explain their defeats) and Rommel and his troops weren't acting like Mongols, and he was a good tactician which made him obvious choice for a poster-child in post war period.
After WW2, German army had to be rebuilt due to Cold War, and you obviously needed the former Wehrmacht personnel. Thus you get celebration of people like Rommel or Stauffenberg, who are portrayed as some tragic heroes and patriots, even though they were literally on line with Hitler in most of things, just like almost every high-ranking German. Same for ''clean Wehrmacht'' myth.
tl;dr: practical concerns

So it was an internal power struggle. Ok. So by being an "outcast" he represented the perfect martyr to be used in decades to come to be the posterkid for antifascism.

The thimg is that sure people tried to find anything bad about Rommel. But they simply could not finding any wrongdoings in that guy. And the Brits who fought against his Afrikakorps even strongly DEFENDED his reputation. He may have simply been a good-hearted fool in a time when people tended to act without too many thoughts about morality. He did strongly believe in 'knightly values'.

>He also was one of Hitler's best friends.
no he wasn't

See
And so did Stauffenberg

>anti-fascism
Rommel wasn't anti-fascist, neither was Stauffenberg. In fact Stauffenberg and his fellow plotters believed that after they remove Hitler Western Allies will let them keep their conquests in the East. I think they even believed Alsace-Lorraine will remain German lol.
But as I said, Germans desperately needed heroes who fought against Nazism.
Even though, ironically, many people who were actually against Nazism to full extent are now forgotten.
Keep in mind, de-Nazification was a sham in the sense of removing people who were part of their regime. Many former Nazis and ''fellow travelers'' got high positions. So I guess they were a bit biased.

Hijacking Rommel for antifascism is perverted. He was a fascist at heart. He believed in the strength and superiority of Germany ... he admired Hitler like a child would admire his father. But he had his own moral compass and that was unchangeable. He did treat his enemies humanely, he strongly opposed killing civilians even if they were considered 'undesireables' by the National Socialist doctrine. He never committed what one may consider war crimes. He may have embodied the idealistic idea of Germany more than any of his peers. But antifascist? That is simply bullshit. Not even Stauffenberg was antifasciat ... he simply thought that Hitler would lead Germany into disaster and was not fit to lead anymore. You may consider him a traitor but he acted for what he considered best for Germany. But the lefists have their own narratives...

This.

He allowed Einsatzgruppen to deploy in Palestine after his troops seized it.
Of course, you could say he just did it because he knew he'd never reach Palestine.

Again
Why does Kikewood make movies about Stauffenberg and the history channel portrays Rommel in a good light unless they want to make them out as anti-fascist.
They use actual national socialists in order to make the idea of natsoc unpopular.

Because you're spending too much time on Sup Forums and you're seeing conspiracies where there are none. WW2 is just an interesting period to portray in fiction and historical dramas.
If things were the way you people describe them, again, shit like ''clean Wehrmacht'' would never fly.

>needing to ask why the jews like the guy who tried to kill Hitler and died as a martyr and good goy

well the way i see it his reputation survived because
1. British wartime propaganda hyped him up to explain why the entry of German troops into Africa reversed the gain we made against the Italians.
2. during said front he and his troops were well behaved and gave it their best without going eastern front tier so there were few if any reports of war crimes violations.
3. North Africa had a Jewish population and because of his and the other generals insistence that the Waffen SS kept out of their neck of the woods Jew civvies didn't die like on the eastern front so Rommel = good German.
4. his avoidance of the eastern front kept his hands metaphorically clean while at the same time making him the common adversary to the western allies who grew to knew him.
5. his death for being loosely tied to the July 20th plot put him in the good books of history and the circumstances of his suicide to protect his family and wartime reputation added to the myth.
6. because he was dead and because of all the above the allies encouraged his reputation post war to build up a new "clean" tradition for the west German army and Rommel and the July 20th guys seemed like a good bedrock to work from. and because he wasn't involved in any eastern front or holocaust shit he was seen as a safe figure to look up to or to publicly fanboy without accusation of being le ebil nazi.

Britain's greatest foe

>ww2 was just about protecting poland independence

Your mother is a whore who licks rancid anuses for 50 pennies.

This.

2 days ago I watched an american film about him. It was just an excuse to portray Hitler as a shitty commander that fucked German army really hard (which I'm sure it's true, he shouldn't have lead the Wehrmacht)

It's both true and false. Hitler made some good strategic decisions. Like insisting on a ''quick'' plan for attack on France, or insisting on German army holding their ground in the fact of Soviet counterattack after Battle of Moscow.
He also made ridiculous decisions.
But shitting on Hitler is another bullshit post-war move. Almost every decision of his had plenty of backers among professionals and high-ranking ones too.

>actual national socialists
They were more like old-style Junkers conservatives.

RUSH M HUNDIN

Dunkirk the movie might be an example of bad leadership because Hitler stopped the advancement of the Wehrmacht.
Did he really still think that he could strike a deal with britfags at this point?

>Implicated in a plot to overthrow Hitler, Rommel took his life in 1944.

I think this is why, desu. Whether it was true or not he was pressured into committing suicide over being executed by Hitler for the crime of treason, and people who hate Nazis love that.

Basically you have 300.000 british troops on a beach completely cut off and you refuse to take them prisoners? Doesen't make sense.

>Almost every decision of his had plenty of backers among professionals and high-ranking ones too.

I don't know if this is true. On the night before the D-Day Hitler ordered not to get waken up under any circumstance. The panzer divisions weren't sent to the right place because they were scared of making Hitler angry.

This is something that historians agree that happened. I'm not quite sure if his decisions were really backed by his generals.

*and french

>Did he really still think that he could strike a deal with britfags at this point?

I guess so. In my ideal world germans and british would have fight first against commies and then a cold war between germans and british resulting in a british victory.

Some nazis ideas were cool, but most of them were pure trash.

i heard that either he wanted to strike a deal with us or Goering wanted to wipe out the BEF to show the power of the luftwaffe, i am inclined to believe the latter as they did bomb the beach heavily and that if Hitler wanted to strike a deal he could have simply not bombed the BEF as a sign of good faith.

>british cold war victory against a fanatic german reich

lmao

Hitler had, therefore, already begun to look on Britain more favourably than he had during, and just after, the First World War by the end of 1922. It seems, however, that the French and Belgian occupation of the Ruhr in January 1923 caused a further change in Hitler’s attitude towards Britain.

It was really funny to me how Dunkirk film is about a huge defeat of the British and French, but the director still managed to make it look like a British victory.

In Spain, even the films about wars were we won, it looks like if we were the defeated ones...really sucks.

bennionkearny.com/hitler-views-on-britain-and-british-empire/

Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Sup Forums has become full of the septic gossip cancer recently so I appreciate any history related /thread where we talk about history and politics.
Just keep em coming.

>never became a member of the NatSoc party
>good treatment of POWs
>was described as honourable and humane by enemies and allies
>Brits created a good image of him
>was not on the Eastern Front
>connected to the 20th July plot
>chose to self-sacrifice himself instead of a trial
>praised by Churchill after the war
I also remember reading somewhere that stated that Patton and Montgomery respected him a lot, and that Rommel's and Montgomery's sons became friends a few decades after the war.

wrong

Der Wüstenfuchs

Glad too that we may sometimes talk like civilized people on this board.

I fucking hate gossip. Ueber individualists are all about gossip. They can die a slow and painful death for all I care

damn, rommel's nose really contrasts with hitler's. You just know hitler had some semite in him, but rommel, rommel was pure aryan. You see that also in his demeanor and his eyes. A man of great inner turmoil but steadfast love for his fatherland. Hopefully he found peace in death.

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You nu-Sup Forums shitposters are the cancer of Sup Forums
You will get cut out like the cancer you are.

>The Virgin Chancellor
>The Chad Field Marshal

if you care enough theres a book
The Desert fox by David Iriving,explains the whole conspiracy thing and everything, I think it goes thorugh all his life, i've read some excerpts and they were really inteeresting

good luck finding it though

Thanks for your insight memeflag
Now kindly off yourself.

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This is true but there's also a ton of quasi historical crap trying to get the last drop of milk from the WWII teat. I'm looking at you, Israel.

Anyway, my intelligent Montenegran, what is some good historical drama one might enjoy seeing?

WW2 was a last ditch effort by the British and French to once again become the top dogs of Europe. Of course this backfired hilariously in their faces and they ended up with a Europe that was just a chessboard for the Americans and Soviets.

>The Desert fox by David Iriving
If you two aren't larping as Retards from your flag country, please get the fuck off of Sup Forums
fpp.co.uk/books/Rommel/

This is not a what movie should I watch thread. In case you haven't noticed
This thread is about Erwin Rommel and his name being used to promote kikery.

I wasn't talking to you, faggot. If you cannot find a fucking book how the hell can you find a quality movie? You can't!

Yes he was, Rommel was very much a Nazi, most of the popular history is post war propoganda meant to rebuild west germany, with Rommel turned into a myth. In actuality, he wasnt even that great of a general.

I don't think you comprehend the op unless you purposefully want it to turn into another shitpost?
You're time is up nigger.

I grew up with one of his relatives. nice family.

Jesus the degeneracy is fucking real.

>makes thread called redpill me on x
>calls others cancerous nupol

Read
You mutt. Anyway can we stay on topic please. If not just don't post please.

t-that's how big rockets are??