Redpill me on climate change. Leftists always seem to get us on this one so we resort to trolling.
Is global cooling a thing?
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Redpill me on climate change. Leftists always seem to get us on this one so we resort to trolling
Asher Gray
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Ryan Reyes
The average temperature keeps climbing and as a result the global climate is distorted. The Jet Stream is getting weaker which allows pollar winds to come to the USA in the winter.
That's the very simplified version. Climate Change is very real. Wether it is manmade or not is up to debate though.
Eli Ross
jewish tricks. pay no mind to it, goyim.
Alexander Edwards
Climate change is real, their solutions for it are made up hokum. This is a rebranding of global warming after getting BTFO when their faulty science was demonstrated.
Colton Nguyen
>There's going to be a cold day therefore climate change isn't real!
Nathaniel Cox
It's real but it doesn't matter. Tell the left to raise their concerns to the poo and chinks and try convincing them to disavow technology and live like stone age cavemen to save the tropical dung beetle or whatever
Adrian Jenkins
Can you go more in-depth as to what that is, exactly.
I want to have a clear answer.
Colton Jenkins
Al Gore was one of the biggest proponents of climate change and he has a mansion right next to the beech
Julian Bennett
>I want to have a clear answer.
>Sup Forums
Adam Green
>Wether it is manmade or not is up to debate though.
No it isn't.
That's just damage control the the people who denied climate change before, they just can't admit they were wrong.
Juan Gray
They have a model for every eventuality, so they're always right because there's some scientist somewhere that predicted the current state of the environment. Never mind the 99.9% of models that were wrong, they're ignored and go silently into the night.
Notice that they rarely give any specific predictions anymore, instead opting for vague bullshit like 'by X year things will be worse somehow due to climate change'. They got BTFO too many times when they made bold predictions to fearmonger, so they no longer do it.
If you're debating a retard on this, go with these two points.
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Michael Johnson
too late we've fucked up. probably nothing too dramatic will happen in our life time. maybe some famine and droughts. enjoy your life now.
Jackson Harris
you need proof sweetie, having a hot summer one day is not proof
Jordan Moore
A man can dream.
Michael Perez
Here is your redpill: youtu.be
Kevin Rodriguez
Watch "The Power of Nightmare", its in there soemwhere. In the 70s some turbo leftist - probably a kike - came up with bad science and rhetorics to reach the conclusion that whitey is evil and we're lal gon die if we didn't become commies right then.
Michael Rodriguez
go back
Andrew Adams
it's this
climate change being real is only one part of the debate, the rest of the debate, how to deal with it, has been directed by leftists and are utterly bad beyond belief.
Thomas Harris
When you realize Global Warming (Al Gore hoax based on disproven evidence) is not the same as climate change (what global warming fags are pretending scientists agree with them about) then you'll finally be slightly less of a good goy moron.
TL;DR Climate Change is real and happened many times, man made "global warming" is a 5th column hoax trying to survive on the coattails of climate change.
Hunter Kelly
+4 in Moscow. literally no snow. NY is oficially ruined
Anthony Gomez
Global warming was BTFO'd? When? How? I still have relatives and friends that talk it over.
Eli Phillips
we have not had real winters here for 5 years now, it just rains. Makes me fucking furious
Nathan Sanders
B-but muh venus project
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Nicholas Sullivan
This. Liberals now think Summer is global warming.
Landon Reyes
They predicted climate change before it happened.
Christian Howard
Jason Russell
>People actually believe in Climate Change
Wow, foreigners are really fucking stupid.
Owen Turner
Leftists claim the following:
1) The climate it changing
2) This is *partially* due to human activity
3) THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE
4) The only solution is to impose massive taxes on US companies and funnel the money to globalists and our friends like Elon Musk
5) If you disagree with any of these points you are a retarded science denier
1 & 2 are broadly correct. This is how they claim to be supported by science.
However point 3 is a bit sketchy... No one really knows in detail what the climate was like in the past. There are only temperature readings for the last few decades. To know if current trends are unprecedented we need to go back thousands or millions of years. To do this scientists uses things called "proxies" - tree rings, ice cores etc. As you can imagine these are not terribly reliable and the data is easy to fudge. A fraction of a percent error per year adds up when you are tracing back thousands of years.
It's also very difficult to predict the future. Every week we get new research about ice caps or carbon or something which turn previous models on their heads. All the predictions made over the last few decades have turned out to be wrong. It's also worth noting that the ecosystem of the earth has been around for millions of years and that we are still here is strong evidence it has a self regulating ability when it gets too hot.
I think 4 & 5 speak for themselves...
Jack Clark
We are barely affecting the natural cycle of temperature rises and dips at all. These temperatures have changed in this way in cycles longer than humans have been here
Nolan Jenkins
I'm sorry for sharing the same nationality with this cuck.
Charles Thomas
I'm right wing when it comes to most social issues. Im very green when it comes to environment though.
I dont know how much we affect climate. I don't care. Climate change is secondary., i say It doesn't matter if it's happening or not.
For example, will the sea levels rise, is it man-made.. this is a short-sighted question. Yes, they say some settlements might go under sea level. I dont care. We'd still be fine.
The main questions are much, much simpler and much easier to answer:
Are we polluting the environment?
Yes
Is polluting the environment bad?
Yes.
That's it.
We should therefore take actions that stop environment pollution. Instead we are arguing over a stupid question about the effects of pollution.
Here is an allegory.
Lets say your family is leaving the trash around your home and the garbage bin is overflowing. Can't we agree that garbage is to be dealt with, and whether the garbage is health hazard or not is beside the point?
Robert Rodriguez
Aerosols are why we aren't seeing the predicted global warming we were supposed to. The required pollution levels are all there. Aerosols, which are still a pollutant, cause global cooling. This negates global warming. This doesn't mean we're any better off. The second the aerosols reach a low enough point, global temperature will sky rocket. The day after 9/11 there was a freeze on all flights. The stabilising aerosols put off by planes that were halted caused a massive universal increase in temperature.
Brandon Johnson
Same here.
We used to have a 200km ice skating competition every couple of years.
But now it hasn't been cold enough for that since 1997.
And we'll likely have the warmest new year's eve in history tomorrow.
Americans think "global" means America.
Jeremiah Cooper
you're polluting this board
Landon Sanchez
I'm sure it's fine.
The only one claiming that it's a hoax are the misinformed or the ones making money on fossil fuels.
David Hill
ITS
COLD
OUTSIDE
SO
CLIMATE
CHANGE
IS
A
HOAX
Matthew Kelly
This isn't even hot trap porn
Hudson Walker
>The main questions are much, much simpler and much easier to answer:
>Are we polluting the environment?
>Yes
>Is polluting the environment bad?
>Yes.
I don't understand why libfags are so butthurt over climate change but won't do a fucking thing about curbing pollution. Campaign for widespread municipal recycling. Let's push regulations/reform/whatever on how much plastic can be used in packaging. We are piling up trash and not terribly concerned about where it ends up.
Andrew Gonzalez
The way I see it, there's a list of probabilities:
>Man made climate change isn't real, so fuck going green
>Man made climate change is real, but isn't enough to actually do anything, so fuck going green
>Man made climate change is real, it is strong enough to harm the environment, and it's still reversible. We'd have to start a massive war that'd we'd probably lose in order to force all the other countries to go green.
>Man made climate change is real, it's strong enough to harm the environment, and it's too late to reverse. Fuck it, we're doomed, so just keep moving forward.
Basically the simplest and most likely to succeed solution is that we say fuck it, and move forward full speed and along the way try to come up with an invention that can be productive and clean. Crippling ourselves would only delay a disaster by seconds at best and would kill ourselves over nothing at worst.
Parker Richardson
The problem is that if "stopping" pollution means shutting down coal power stations, you are massively increasing the price of electricity. This is how people heat their homes. This is how food is produced and transported. Cheap energy is the reason there are not huge famines in the United States. If carbon dioxide is not having a major detrimental effect on the environment it is not inherently "bad" as you say.
Zachary Fisher
Earth's temps constantly fluctuate and man made global warming is a jewish scheme designed to impose global carbon tax
Jason Hernandez
Climate change is a natural process that occurs frequently in geological terms but global warming is a media love child that blames you and me for said natural process.
Warmist's have had their grant biased research, results and conclusions disproven every time, their output now is so frantic to maintain funding is has gone beyond laughable.
Warmist's are beyond stupid, honestly
Ethan Bennett
Its like with the holocaust,
It isnt real and some people make money with the myth.
Proof? The scientists do not back it up.
You get called names for disagreeing.
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Lucas Green
without snow we only have darkness and rain literally every day and night. I'm thinking of my children that will not be able to play in snow like I did when I was a child. Depressing
William Jackson
Our satellites are improving so fast we can detect a record number of hurricanes every year,
Jaxson Jones
...user..i think your friends are retarded.
Sorry for your loss.
Chase Scott
Why do people think that global warming would be a bad thing? It would decrease heating costs reduce deaths from ice/snow. Overall it would probably have a positive impact on gdp
William Diaz
God dammit I misstyped holocaust 3 times
Jordan Wright
So why do you post a picture of particulate smog in China which while certainly should be reduced for the sake of the Chinese populace is irrelevant to global warming which is mainly about invisible carbon dioxide?
Isaac Hall
Lol
Michael Clark
>They have a model for every eventuality, so they're always right
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Tyler Young
We, like most life on this planet, evolved out of 3000+ ppm carbon in air and water. We are all carbon based life forms. Carbon has never been the issue, other pollutants though... Shipping ships.... plastic.... battery mines...
We have been in an extreme carbon low for a long period of time. Plants actually evolved relatively rapidly to adept to the low carbon levels.
More carbon means more life. Use logic. Where is life on this planet most diverse and abundant? At the equator where it is hottest. Where is it least diverse and scarce? The poles where it is cold. It's literally common fucking sense.
It's not that I don't think climate is changing, I agree it is. I don't know the level of our involvement, but it is irrelevant when you consider the benefits we are already seeing. Yes we will have to adapt to the changes, maybe move off some beaches and re-build. So is life on this planet, it's chaotic.
You want the real red-pill user? Australian deserts are turning green. Australia and China have seen some of the largest increases in green. blogs.crikey.com.au
It's fucking insane the transformation in some areas. abc.net.au
You want the truth. Google "Famous Atmospheric Physicists". Go and see what all the leading people in the field of study think. Don't take my word for it. Richard personally wrote a letter to Donald Trump to not participate in paris treaty. He is worth listening too if you want the truth, unbiased. There are definitely things we need to change, but worrying about a loss of any resource due to carbon increase is absurd as fuck. Carbon increases will only create more life.
Earth is 26% greener then it was in 1980's. That is a fact that even NASA confirms, through it's satellite data collections. nasa.gov
Gavin King
Recycling is bullshit. You have to pay to recycle from your own home and these recycling companies are starting to nitpick what you can and can't recycle. They want boxes flattened, no small objects like bottlecaps, and they expect you to sort it. A lot of the cardboard and plastic is sold to China, if the Chinese find contaminated cardboard, they send it back without pay or dump it.
Recycling is the most cucked practice, you pay for your recycle bin, you are told what you can and can't put in it, and big companies in California make money by selling it.
Landon Torres
Where there's a will there's a way.
Your argument is exactly the reason why people keep polluting the environment. Making a change would require large scale investments. Corporations don't want to spend their money (neither do people, if it comes to them).
Also, workers in the industry would resits because they would fear for their jobs, a politician's nightmare.
But I believe it would the right thing to do in the long run.
Evan Thomas
Stopping the real pollutants is actually much worse. Lithium mining is absolutely destroying soil all over the planet. Graphite mining in China too. The cost of these batteries and electronics is the real toll. That and the pacific giant garbage patch.
Cleaning up our oceans, and mining responsibly should be our focus. Not the climate change scare nonesense.
Michael Butler
>Global warming was BTFO'd?
yes
>When?
early 2000s decade
>How?
a bunch of really cold winters
people were literally asking whatever happened to global warming, it might seem stupid, but when you predict that things will get hotter, and it actually gets colder people stop believing you
>This is a rebranding of global warming
this so much, they wanted to believe so hard in their anti industry rhetoric that they ended up building explanations to fit the conclusion they wanted to reach
back in the 80s it was smog would block the sun causing an ice age
then it was greenhouse effect melts the icecaps
now it is some current got disrupted causing polar wind
they never managed to predict anything, they just make up "explanations" after the fact
Kayden Wright
Investments? No. Investments are no problem.
The problem is millions of people who were in lower middle class slipping into poverty as they can no longer afford to travel to work by car or heat the rooms of their house.
I'm sure you believe it would be "right" in long run like every commie dictator. But carbon-dixoide is NOT BAD. It is the food that every plant on the planet uses. If a small increase in CO2 is not destroying the planet, there is no reason to reduce it.
Justin Peterson
This will get shilled, and in fairness some cynical people are using the hysteria to get extra funding, and fanning it beyond what it needs to be, but the theory that CO2 can potentially cause warming is based on solid science, and the planet is clearly warming to some degree. It is entirely rational to link this to human activity given that is the remarkable change of the last couple centuries.
Fish stocks, the ozone layer, most previous scares like this responded very well to strict regulation and recovered rapidly when dealt with. I think the whole Fox News anti science populist stuff is a bit dim, this isn't a Republican board that needs to just shill for planet rapists.
Obviously a lot of people here are very libertarian and are sceptical of anything that involves a government response, and I understand that, but the science has never seriously been challenged on this. In my view opposing conservation efforts and environmentalism does not make sense from a right wing stand point. It should be our first priority alongside genetic health. We have a responsibility to deal with this.
Also it is always white people who are involved in working in conservation and environmentalism. The right in America (it does this nowhere else) is solely going against its own values on this because of who funds them. Don't fall for this retard shit.
Jose Myers
They predicted Florida would be under water already. Twice. And each time had to move back the prediction because it was wrong.
I'm not going to deny that the climate is changing or even that there's a man made component to it. My questions are only two.
1) if historic data is fairly unreliable (people poorly trained at the task using buckets of sea water and a thermometer with inaccurate readings) then how can we create accurate trend lines to measure a fraction of a degree of change over time. Basically drawing a trend line between a guesstimate and highly accurate modern readings and creating a trend that predicted a single degree of change over the next century.
2) what of the other warming and coming periods in human history pre industrial revolution? Are we not just attributing too much power to ourselves over the climate? If it's so easy to change it why not do the reverse?
Gabriel Sanchez
You, I and Donald Trump agree.
Leo Clark
>If it's cold in some summers, it's weather, not climate
>If it's warm in some winters, it's climate, not weather
You guys are dumb, like all climate change apostles.
Austin Gonzalez
I agree predictions have been off and alarmist, but in my view people opposing this stuff are always motivated by a Jewish "lets rape the planet for cash" sentiment. I care more about conservation than CO2, but if you look at what is happening to the Great Barrier Reef with the temp changes in the ocean (which are occurring there, whether it is a worldwide phenomenon or not), it is terrible, and I don't see why a bunch of cheeky Ozcunts who work on the reef would make this up. They aren't getting paid.
Blake Young
Friesland?
Jaxon Phillips
>but the theory that CO2 can potentially cause warming is based on solid science, and the planet is clearly warming to some degree
No it isn't.
Henry Smith
>I agree predictions have been off and alarmist, but in my view people opposing this stuff are always motivated by a Jewish "lets rape the planet for cash" sentiment.
Actually, it's the other way around. jews want to kill off the First World and bring up the Third World. Easy to do with climate shit because First Worlders are now too stupid to live generally.
Example: You.
Isaac Gutierrez
Its nothing like the (((shoah))). The Shoah is the modern myth on which the post-war guilt religion is founded. It gives the devil and the angels (the chosen people who survived like brave victims) and is used to justify everything that happened after it.
The GW issue is about scientific integrity and whether or not the planet is in danger. Do not compare the two.
Sebastian Scott
Reminder that the right-wing is only butthurt about climate change because they were proven wrong.
Ethan Thompson
But then why do white conservationists agree with them?
Ayden Diaz
>The GW issue is about scientific integrity and whether or not the planet is in danger. Do not compare the two.
Fuck off, science hasn't got any integrity for decades now. Google replication crisis and fuck off forever, idiot.
Isaiah Kelly
Yes it is
Luke Cox
Of course left-wing Ozcunt environmental activists have a motive to exaggerate. And indeed this has shown to be the case. joannenova.com.au
Lucas Thomas
A lot of Coral bleaching is actually due to tourist activity. The bleaching pretty much only happens in spots that people can visit.
Imagine being such a nigger that you end up killing the ocean with your love of it.
Connor Martinez
>conservationists
Simple, Greens are left and Jews are also left. The goal for both: Destroy Christianity. The easiest way to do that: Destroy the West.
You have to get much, much older, kid. We've been over this a lot before Sup Forums went to shit.
Lincoln Green
whatever happened to that """bees are dying!!!""" scare
Nathan Taylor
>Let's push regulations/reform/whatever
Already tried, industry was moved to China.
>packaging
That might actually work, they have to bring to actual packages to the consumption point.
Henry Phillips
real answer is it's irrelevant
who cares
Caleb Hernandez
Even IF it's man made haven't they said we are "past the point of no return" like 5-6 years ago. If that's true we can only carry on and adapt or die, pretty much same as always
David Peterson
It's all bullshit. The biggest climate change researchers all admitted in private enails that got leaked that they HAD TO doctor their findings to support the theory that mankind was fucking the climate up. The climate changes we've experienced are all part of the Earth's natural cycle.
Joseph Hughes
I promise it's a hoax (I promise it's a hoax). Just like the Holohoax.
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Zachary Martinez
>I care more about conservation than CO2
fair enough, but remember that extinction was always part of evolution
Josiah Walker
What happened to sea level rise? 20 years ago they were saying Tampa would be under water in 50 years. Shouldn't it be gradually starting to get noticeable by now? Or is it all going to happen instantly in 30 more years?
Robert Rogers
1. Climate change is real and measurable.
2. Carbon tax is part of the jewish agenda.
3. China and India are the major contributors to whatever percentage is human related.
4. Good luck getting billions of chinks and wogs to go green.
Kevin Foster
I don't doubt that Climate change is a thing, but blaming it entirely on mankind due to 200 years of industrial change is utterly laughable. The earth is well due for another Ice age and most likely we are starting to see the beginning stages of this.
John Myers
The redpill? The average temperature of the earth is increasing. This will create global issues that you should seek to profit from.
Jaxson Gomez
>So why do you post a picture of particulate smog in China which while certainly should be reduced for the sake of the Chinese populace is irrelevant to global warming which is mainly about invisible carbon dioxide?
Because applying Occam's razor makes it a pretty logical assumption that human emission is causing global warming. The picture in question paints a broader image that humans are affecting the climate.
Grayson Peterson
>The climate changes we've experienced are all part of the Earth's natural cycle.
And I wonder, who hates nature and wants to shut it down?
Anthony Wood
First of all I comlare the to rightfully in terms of political usage.
Second, there is no integrity on the topic, like the other user said.
Brandon Robinson
Well acctually both claims are true.
However the CO2 claim is vastly exagarated and the warming barely has something to do with it.
Carter Brown
>The earth is well due for another Ice age
the last ice age hasn't ended yet
Henry Nelson
The issue is that the planet is more complex than just saying it will warm indefinitely.
>Planet warms X degrees
>Oceans get hotter
>Water evaporates into clouds
>Cloud cover and rain fall lower temperatures
There's a point of diminishing returns on co2 raising temperatures.
Nicholas Long
>Jews want to destroy christianity
Dude, no.
Christianity was a jewish tool to destroy the aryan and they succeded, then they wanted to destroy the new upper caste witch formed because of christianity.
If they should manage to do so, they will proceed with capitalism (witch they allready started, and christianity is also clinicly dead allready).
Then they can finaly rule the filthy slaves like they wanted to.
Gabriel Allen
I caught a cold in a sleet storm yesterday. If that is globalist warming I want my fucking Carbon back.
Lincoln Martin
>Over 31,000 scientists have united against the political agenda of global warming. The scientific consensus, which includes over 9,000 scientists with Ph.D.s, supports the necessity of carbon dioxide and sheds light on the agenda of global warming, which includes industrial energy rationing, central economic planning, and global taxation schemes. These scientists are now speaking out against the hoax of global warming and how global agreements to limit greenhouse gases are actually destructive to all plant and animal life on the planet.
>industrial energy rationing, central economic planning, and global taxation schemes
It's basically a plot hatched by Communist Jews in order to destroy White civilization and to realize their age-old Trotskyist plan of a world communist revolution and a global Soviet-Rabbinic regime.
Hudson Morales
>all this thread and nobody posted earth-chan
wew, that was the fastest meme death I've ever seen
Sebastian Richardson
The issue isn't whether it exists or not it's whether it should be the forefront of global policy.
This France accord wants us to pay for other countries' fuck ups which would reduce it by a fraction of a fraction.
If we want to lower global pollution we need a way to do it that isn't just throwing money at people and hoping for the best.
Julian White
Jews aren't people, user.
David Campbell
thank god you pointed that out for me?
Brody Scott
>Because applying Occam's razor makes it a pretty logical assumption that human emission is causing global warming.
But there's no evidence of that, only assumptions, propaganda and opinions, there's no hard evidence man is causing climate change, if there was it would be a fact, not a debate.
Jackson Campbell
You got it, man. We all make mistakes.
Alexander Reed
Why do you need to be redpilled? Just listen to what liberals say.
>There's more snow in the Alaska mountains because of global warming