Were there crematoriums? Yep. Millions were interned in POW camps at various times. They were good-sized cities. It was a necessity.
Enough to cremate gorzilllions in 3 years? Nope. Not even close, a ridiculous proposition. In fact the handful there actually were were multiplied many times over by fake ones built post-war... and still not anywhere close to enough. This is all thoroughly documented. Plus it's basic math.
Were jews treated for disease and delousing? Yep.
Were jews "gassed" in some sort of overly complicated Rube Goldberg method of mass killing? Nope.
Did jews die? Yep. Especially towards the end of the war as there wasn't enough food and supplies to take care of the Germans themselves, much less jew POWs. Why do you think the allies found camps full of ALIVE albeit starving jews? And the dead jews found, dead due to starvation? GASSING DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE YOU SKINNY.
Did 6 jews million die? Nope. Again, basic math in regards to the jew population post-war. 300,000-900,000 died in camps do to a combination of disease and starvation. There was NO multi-million scale organized mass killing of jews.
Is history written by the victors? Yep.
Has the holohoax been used to maintain and expand jew control upon the world? Yep.
Is jew power linchpinned to this fabrication and this is why kikes conduct this continual propaganda spin campaign? Yep.
And they are fully prepared to do so for the next 1,000 years.
Was it a jew "extermination camp"? Or a POW camp where people died towards the end of the war due to starvation and disease?
Jaxson Stewart
8 MILLION died at Auschwitz alone!!!
Never forget, you evil goyim!
William Miller
Whoops, ok, it was just 7 million... but believe us goyim! Don't question it.
Jace Powell
Hold up, it was 4 milllion. Never forget. Don't question it! Filthy goyim...
Nicholas Parker
Whoopsie, (((honest mistake))). It's down to 1.5 million now. Just a slight 6.5 million over-count from the original claim. Don't question it! Or we will literally imprison you filthy goy dogs!
What is a foundation myth? It fulfills three functions.
1) It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2) It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3) It determines what is held sacred in that society.
For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.
1) We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.
2) Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.
3) The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.
The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.
Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.
Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.
Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.
Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
This is by jew design.
Tyler Gomez
Jews initially claimed all 30+ POW camps were "extermination camps".
Then every single camp captured by the US showed zero evidence of gas chambers or any other form of systematic mass killing.
ONLY the Soviets claimed they found evidence of gas chambers... after refusing outside investigators for years... and after (now admittedly) RECONSTRUCTING the camps.
Kayden Walker
Here, a jew investigator exposes the fake gas chambers built post-war by the Soviets...
This excellent, academic text will document that they had a cremating capacity of almost 5000 corpses per day, but that most corpses were burns outside the ovens in wildfires.
Ryan Miller
when will denying the holocaust lose its edgy-ness in this fucking board. It happened. Get over it. You are revisionist tools.
Landon King
did you read the thread there bud? Some interesting points made above. start here:
Elijah Sanders
>"academic" great source >cremating capacity of almost 5000 corpses per day post-war retroactive jew lies >most corpses were burns outside the ovens in wildfires and even more ludicrous post-war retroactive jew lies
Do you understand the requirements for cremation? The time and temperatures required? And that it's impossible to cremate someone in an open pit? And that's why cremation ovens are designed in a particular way to reach higher than otherwise achievable temperatures?
Answer these simple questions, please.
How and where, exactly, did Nazis kill 6 million Jews?
How was the 6 million number calculated?
How were the bodies disposed of? (the breakdown percentage-wise)
How many bodies were cremated?
Where are the bodies?
Where is the ash?
How many death camps were there?
Joseph Smith
they are JIDF
Notice how refused to address any of the posts or number breakdowns posted above and gas lighted a fiction while well poisoned.
Jews gonna jew.
And no one will answer the basic questions because there ARE NO answers, it's all such a tangle of lies that has been built over the years that they have to avoid the most basic questions.
Cooper Ramirez
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >blood catches on fire
Jackson Nguyen
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get thrown into the "bears and eagles" cage by hitler
Ryan Bailey
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get gassed 3 times and survive the 4th after hitler runs out of jew killing gas
Luis Reed
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >survive 6 gassings
Adam Foster
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >AVOID getting gassed because you're hungry
Isaac Nelson
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >navigate moving knife chamber >climb a 80 ft tall pile of human ash (never to be found) >die in a nazi acid pond >scare the neighbors
Ryder Turner
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get balls chewed off by nazi dogs >escape your death camp in a pile of clothes
Jacob Cooper
I'm actually on two Holocaust threads simultaneously.
I'm no expert, and I don't pretend to be. The way I understand it, though, is that 6 million was a very high estimate. It's hard to get the numbers right, since the Germans went to great lengths to keep the operation somewhat covert. It might have been 1 million, or less, or more. It is still a lot of people.
Basically, these Holocaust discussions tend to go like this. Some denier demands a specific evidence, that might not be possible to produce easily for anyone, or perhaps only for experts. Once this specific proof was not produced promptly, this is being used as proof to show that the Holocaust in fact never happened.
I have no clue where the ash went, but I've read plenty of articles with strong arguments showing how it was all possible. The one I just shared here is one of them. The problem is that regardless of the source I provide, it can easily be dismissed as "Jewish propaganda". So, sources will not do the job, and they are necessary since I'm not an expert.
All in all, the discussion is therefore not productive, and I will retire to the bedroom.
Ethan Phillips
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >ride hitler's holocoaster of doom
Zachary Green
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get raped by specially trained nazi rape dogs
Asher Kelly
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get turned into jewish sausage and eaten by hitler
Lincoln Wright
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get tickled to death by hitler
Owen Nguyen
It won't end until we make it real user.
Ian Morales
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get dunked in a nazi carnival dunk tank >get vaporized into jew dust by 10 gorbillion volts
Kevin Morgan
The (((MSM))) of that time had been churning out the six million story even before Hitler was born.
The six million is a fabrication to satisfy a Torah prophecy for the return of jews to palestine.
Orthodox jews know it's a hoax and disavow zionism and israel.
Matthew Lopez
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get turned into a jewess by hitler
Henry Myers
>tangle of lies
>be a jew >get masturbated to death by hitler
Eli James
>tangle of lies
>be jews >hitler tricks you into eating a jew baby
Samuel Price
So, because people lie about one of the biggest historical event in human history, involving hundreds of millions of people, then it all has to be a lie? This clearly shows that you are dumb, and you don't understand science.
Adam Miller
>tangle of lies
>be jews >INCREASE IN NUMBERS after the holohoax
Brayden Sanders
So where is the direct physical evidence of any of this?
Lincoln Myers
I think his point is that it is a lie.
Wyatt Hall
You're a piece of pilpul kike trash.
You can't answer the most basic of questions saying you're "not an expert" yet you KNOW what happened... as you live in a country where you can't even question the holohaox openly lest you be arrested for "hate speech".
Gas yourself.
All you kikes do is pile lies upon lies.
Jews said at Nurenmurg 7 million were GASSED and CREMATED IN OVENS at AUSCHWITZ ALONE and after the goyim realized how impossible that was, there's been the continual backtracking... ending with you now saying they were burnt in fucking pits, even though you can't cremate people in pits, because you know the oven numbers don't work.
The most basic of fucking questions for the crime of the century that the west is now built around:
How and where, exactly, did Nazis kill 6 million Jews?
How was the 6 million number calculated?
How were the bodies disposed of? (the breakdown percentage-wise)
How many bodies were cremated?
Where are the bodies?
Where is the ash?
How many death camps were there?
THERE ARE NO ANSWERS BECAUSE IT'S ALL A FRAUD you fucking idiot.
Joshua Hughes
All those questions were answered in the link I provided. I can provide more links, but what good will it do? You will just discard them as "muh kike propaganda" anyway.
>Some denier demands a specific evidence, You fucking faggot, it falls to THOSE MAKING CLAIMS e.g. that 6 million jews were systematically murdered by Nazis, to provide the evidence. Not the other way around.
That's why there are literal laws against questioning the holohoax thoughout most of Europe, there IS NO evidence that 6 million jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis.
Jordan Hernandez
>The (((MSM))) of that time had been churning out the six million story even before Hitler was born. Yep.
The lies surrounding the holohoax are so fucking blatant.
Zachary Morris
Without reading too deep over everyone theories on this thread. I assume a ton of Jews died in WW2. Its over the 900,000 OP claims, but under 6 million. Jews were killed outside camps in the east by the Einsatzgruppen. But the Holocaust although a bad thing. It annoying how it heralded as the end all/ be all of war crimes. The ethic cleansing of Germans in Eastern Europe was equally if not more bad, but is never talked about. Its also annoying that Holocaust trials are still going on and they have run out of people, so they are going after like 102 year old train station operators that were never Nazis and never killed anyone.
Samuel Green
No?
-Jewish population dropped by a third -The gas chambers -The catalogs of cremated bodies -The lack of denial among Nazis, both soldiers and officers, in addition to someone admitting to it -Straight out photographs showing pits of burning bodies -The letter from Goebbels stating explicitly that they are exterminating Jews, systematically -Operation Reinhard -Anne Frank -Thousands of witnesses -Reports from the Einsatzgruppen -Hitler had this as a stated political goals, openly, before he got into office, to EXTERMINATE the Jews
Brandon Edwards
Your own link indicates the cremations done at Treblinka were performed with large open pyres involving many bodies at once. So your claim that this would take 2.7M hours makes no sense.
Jack Howard
>All those questions were answered in the link I provided. They were? Then answer these most basic of questions with a handful of simple keystrokes, because all I see goal post moving bullshit.
1. How was the 6 million number calculated?
2. How and where, exactly, did Nazis kill 6 million Jews?
3. How were the bodies exterminated and disposed of? (the most basic rough breakdown percentage-wise)
4. How many bodies were cremated?
5. Where are the bodies?
6. Where is the ash?
These are the most basic fucking question that can be asked about this supposed gigantic event that cannot be questioned.
Your lack of answers redpills people more than anything else I could post. Thank you.
Brody Smith
The electronics fuck up and give a puff a smoke that surrounds the hologram before the hologram glitches out symbolizing the gas chamber AHAHAHAH DIGITS
Ayden Bell
This one is not that unbelievable, I imagine there would’ve been dogs trained to attack genitals first
Dylan Carter
They're doing this because Jews are now reaching the age where it's ludicrous for them to be holocaust survivors. They need to make sure the goyim remember the six gorillion. I long for the days where invoking the holocaust in an argument is shut the fuck down immediately.
Eli Edwards
I already answered those questions in an earlier post. My position has never been that 6 million is or has to be correct. My assertion is that the Holocaust, in any shape or form, took place. Meaning a serious, systematic extermination of Jews (and Gypsies and Gay people etc), in an industrial matter, that resulted in the death of a lot of people (probably more than a few hundred thousands, and presumably millions).
The questions about the bodies, the cremation and the ash was answered in the link I provided earlier.
This should cover all your questions.
Daniel Lewis
>large open pyres Post-war ass covering lies just like as cremation cannot occur in open pyres.
Where are 900,000 partially burnt corpses then?
Or, assuming they used Nazi magic... 900,000 x 7 pounds of ash from open air cremation per person = 6,300,000 pounds
Where's the ash?
To clarify: where are the 900,000 corpses/6,300,000 pounds of ash/any combination of?
Parker Cooper
>it happened >i don't know how >i don't know the particulars >but it happened >other than it was systematic and industrial >but i don't know the particulars of how it was systematic and industrial >but it happened fuck yourself
Jack Gomez
>as cremation cannot occur in open pyres. Not if the goal is a nice powder to keep above your fireplace as a memory of your Great Aunt, no. That was merely not the goal in the camps, now was it?
Michael Harris
see and
Carson Williams
>involving many bodies at once It doesn't work like that. Each body requires a fixed amount of energy to cremate.
And open air cremation is impossible regardless, all you get is charred bodies.
Matthew Myers
-Jewish population dropped by a third utter lie, pic related
the rest is literally just words, not evidence or even a statement, are you autistic?
the next one, "gas chambers", what does that mean? like how the US found zero gas chambers and the soviets literally falsified evidence by creating "gas chambers" where there were none?
>-The catalogs of cremated bodies that numbered under 10k... who died from the typhus epidemic (you know, the reason for the shaving of heads and delousing etc.)
>-The lack of denial among Nazis, both soldiers and officers, in addition to someone admitting to it completes lies, out a supposed 6 million murders they got basically 3 "confessions" by torture, and to this day they are arresting anyone who tells the truth
>-Straight out photographs showing pits of burning bodies photos of a few dozen bodies being burned that clearly died of typhus does not mean 6 million people were murdered, this is exactly how typhus was dealt with throughout history
>-The letter from Goebbels stating explicitly that they are exterminating Jews, systematically now you're just lying
>-Operation Reinhard not a bit of hard evidence about anything other than that POWs were being transported and kept at POW camps
>-Anne Frank kill yourself
>-Thousands of witnesses of what? of the easter bunny? of mass scale murder of jews? more lies
>-Reports from the Einsatzgruppen literally zero to do with this conversion
>-Hitler had this as a stated political goals, openly, before he got into office, to EXTERMINATE the Jews an utter lie
no wonder you can't even tell us how the 6 million number was arrived out or how they died, you're an idiot
Sebastian Russell
if you want genocides, look at what the commies did.
Adrian Hughes
>utter lie, pic related Its just a pics with claims. Its not a real source. When you provide the real source I will move down to the next point.
Zachary Hall
Look, I never claimed that commies were any better. That's not the point here.
James Edwards
you were going to bed earlier, but ofc jidf never sleeps :D get a real job.
Joshua Roberts
then see the red cross numbers, way below million, all summer camps combined.
Justin Roberts
Yeah, that was my plan, but another thread is keeping my sleepless.
I would shitpost for money any day, user. I'd love to.
Logan Ross
The problem with these figures, being repeated again and again in these threads, is that they are made up - simply false. Pics are being composed to look like sources, without being real sources. Pic related.
Hudson Roberts
>>hundreds of millions
Wew
David Clark
The bottom figures are not from 1948, I found them in the original source from 1939. So the whole pic is trying to manipulate people, deliberately.
my sources are literally right on the page, dimwit kike
i answered your moronic "evidence"... can you know answer the kindergarten level questions you've been avoiding the entire thread, now?
Nicholas Roberts
No one even posted that, moron, except your straw-manning kike ass just now.
Stop Straw manning.
Answer the questions.
Levi Gray
All I see is a picture with text, where you claim things. Have you read the real, actual numbers in the World Almanac? Why don't they correspond with the figures I have in my copy of the World Almanac 1933 and 1939?
I WONDER WHY user
MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE UP NUMBERS YOU FUCKING RETARD
Wyatt Long
>Why don't they correspond with the figures I have in my copy of the World Almanac 1933 and 1939?
you don't own much, including that almanac
>my numbers are right, yours are wrong
classic
Zachary Sanders
Wtf, I hate Jews and no longer believe in the Holocaust
Ayden Reyes
welcome back, now remove ahmed
Lucas Brown
>Have you read the real, actual numbers in the World Almanac? They are all readily available in PDFs online, jew.
Jew numbers took a very slight dip and actually increased again by the late 40's.
The holocaust claim for the past few decades has been that basically half their numbers (6 million) were killed.
That would have taken decades to recover from.
It simply didn't happen. There were roughly about 500k unaccounted for.
That's a huge lie and that's what this thread is about. Jew lies.
And you have done nothing but lie this entire thread.
Nicholas Wilson
But seriously though, the numbers are wrong. In some of these pics the numbers being used are projections from before the war, and not actual present day population counts. It was hard for the World Almanac to foresee the Holocaust, and take this into account in their projections.
I find it incredible that you guys straight out doesn't believe Holocaust. I can understand hating Jews. I can understand problematising the figures (6 millions sounds like a lot). I can understand discussing how the Jews are using Holocaust strategically. I can understand how the Holocaust has been given priority over other genocides, such as in Russia and in more recent times. I can understand all these things. But I don't understand how you take these meme-pics as better evidence than professional historians, and academics from a long range of disciplines. How were they all lured into this big conspiracy?
James Davis
>They are all readily available in PDFs online, jew.
Provide a link then, faggot.
Ayden Smith
1939: 15,688,259 1947: 11,266,600 ---------------- 4,421,659 Dead
Angel Mitchell
How can anyone be aware of these things and not understand something fishy is going on?
The fact that the "holocaust" is the ONE thing one the planet you're not allowed to openly question throughout much of the west is perhaps the biggest canary in the coal mine.
Chase Hernandez
bing bing bing
Kayden Miller
Another amazing “proof” from a denier.
Isaac Howard
This might be a stupid question, but how do they keep claiming a consistent overall 6 million?
How do they make those numbers work?
Evan Roberts
26,000,000 was the full death toll of the fucking entire war
Oliver Kelly
How is he a "denier", what is he denying? You yourself just said that 6 million was bullshit here
Isaiah Jackson
"How about this? we do Holograms of the Holocaust! it rhymes!"
Noah Ward
Dang user, I’m not a holocaust denier, and even I think you are losing this argument.
archive.is/kmRtU >At the Congress of 1911 he warned that if current political trends persisted, six million Jews, i.e., those living in the Russian Empire and other East-European countries, were doomed to perish. He was convinced that only political Zionism could forestall the tragedy.
Gabriel Green
I just found this video of a guy literally doing nothing but reading word for word old pre-WW2 newspaper articles about "the 6 million jews"... and it's been censored! That's literally all he's doing, reading old New York Times etc.
That the plaque for Auschwitz, you illiterate kike. They dropped the numbers from 8 million to 1.5 million at Auschwitz over time.
Wyatt Sanchez
you retard cant even see that the pic of is photoshopped
please off yourself, brainlet soyim.
Ethan Ross
>censored for reading old newspapers We truly are entering Brave New World/1984 territory. Crazy.
Eli Lee
Jews have been whinning about being genocided much before ww2. Sometime they said it was 5 millions of them othertime 4, etc..
I don't even know what the fuck this is supposed to prove. You know nazis communications about the holocausts that wefe intercepted werpen't always made public to stop jews from being buthurt, right?
i literally have no idea what you're trying to say, what? they claim 6 million total to this day, despite being caught lying into the millions at auschwitz, majdanek etc. etc.