Starship troopers solution - "Service guarantees Citizenship"

What if Constitutional Rights and privileges are only guaranteed (voting, bill of rights, and citizenship ) through completion of service?

Would thay solve most things? Ex: 2nd amendment only applies to Citizens. Civilians are restricted weapons like Japan, England, Australia.

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Sounds good to me

>letting your government be run by meathead militaryfags
are you ready?

>are you ready?

>What if Constitutional Rights and privileges are only guaranteed (voting, bill of rights, and citizenship ) through completion of service?

Then the jew would do everything in its power to destroy the fabric of the military, probably though the use of denial of funds.

The world can never be healthy as long as those parasites cling to it.

Majority of all the Finnish men go through mandatory military service, but it hasn't really left the country as unfucked as you seem to hope.

While I like the idea of all firearms owners actually being trained, being granted the right to own firearms only after dedicating part of your life to government service sort of defeats the original purpose. What if that government becomes tyrannical? The only people capable of threatening it will either be in its service already or have likely been brainwashed into worshipping its authority.

That said, Michael Ironside's lesson on the failure of democracy is nice fashy fap material.

Also in the book that system of governance came only after a severe world war.

When that happens irl, there will be no return. Humanity will go extinct. That is the jew's plan.

Why? If christians go extinct first, then the jews are god's chosen people and they probably think that'll give them a better position in the afterlife, as well as fulfill their revenge.

The jews have a Scorched Earth policy.

>What if that government becomes tyrannical?
It doesn't do a damn bit of good now. Radio and long range artillery make it impossible to organize against a body as large as a world government.

Hmm jews in Israel are conscripted, and there is a vast difference between Israeli jews vs western liberal (NYC, Hollywood) jews who never served. Most problems are caused by western “jews”?

oy vey, serve us and then you get your little fake votes!

>and there is a vast difference between Israeli jews vs western liberal
Just like how there's a vast difference between a cockroach and slightly gayer cockroach

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No, all jews. They expose their children to systematic child abuse which leaves them as psychopaths.

They tell them that they can do no wrong and that everyone on earth hates them and wants them dead. They then take those children and show them every place on earth where the jews got BTFO'd and say "Look, see? Whites hate you and want you to die!"

What do you think is going to happen to those children? What sort of pathology will that kind of systematic mental trauma do? They'll become complete psychopaths detached from any recognizable concept of morality. Why, after all, should they be moral to people that they believe have no good reasons to hate them? To people who would steal from them the favor of god himself?

It's very obvious how a people thus traumatized would act, especially when they hold trillions of dollars as a race.

I think you should get a vote for every tax euro you pay into the system.

If you don’t pay taxes, you should not have a say what is done with other people’s tax money.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAP

>haha look a girl
>rekt
kill yourself, Starship Troopers was a multicultural civic nationalist's wet dream and beyond that an obvious satire of how authoritarian structures brainwash and enslave the white man.

>completion of service
Nope. Same problem as the Romans who co-opted barbarians to serve. You end up with either the barbarians taking over themselves or they enable the rest of the horde to crash through.

>he is only capable of watching the movie.

>welfare loses voting rights

there i fixed democracy

Nope, everyone should have a gun, it takes some paperwork here and a 4 hour safety course but after that you can go all out, I have a mini14, a mini30 a win308 2 mossbergs and a few sks's, also a few high velocity air rifles (anything over 500fps requires a permit) for plinking and varmint removal (I have a whisper 2000 and a Umarex Surge) , just need to go through the bureaucratic shit once, then hit up the nearest canadian tire store

ive been saying this for fucking years.

as a muslim australian i would gladly die for my country and it would weed out all the fucking low lives including bogan cunts that stay at home drinking and smoking weed on my tax dollar.

fuck em.

That would net you a life sentence in UK

>as a muslim australian
When do you explode?

Good we start with the drug dealing kiddie fiddling lebshits of Lakemba who spend most of their time in Lebanon sponging off Centrelink.

>that .gif
holy fuck why havent i seen this before
>when do you explode?
SAY. THE. WORD.

probably more tactical to start from sydney and work your way outwards so you dont miss any drug dealing kiddie fiddling lebshits in other suburbs, especially the drug dealing kiddie fiddling gooks, bogans and abos in rossmore or
chippo

>sponging off Centrelink.
Fuck is that welfare? { don't even give a fuck to by these cunts plane tickets, it's not like it is unprecedented here

Absolutely.

but only if 4 year college/uni is tax-funded.

welfare? nononono its the lottery. the government has put something like 5billion aside just for refugees. you don't even need to be an australian citizen to fucking get it, you just need to make it in.

WTF is wrong with her dick!????

then these cocksuckers get hired by well off business owners to work off the books. they will hire one "manager" on the books and he will go around every morning picking up anyone who wants to pick and pack chicken giblets for 10$ an hour and drive them to red lea.

its this bullshit cycle of poverty that everybody (read: everybody) keeps perpetuating because you can't compete otherwise.

>5billion aside just for refugees
I THOUGHT YOU WERE FULL, at least we have winter chan on our side right now. Taking a quick look it's -25 right now and getting windy

>tfw shes dating the ugliest gook imaginable

the government seems to think we have an abundance of actual Australians to fuck over.

She said on stream in one of her clips that he has a larger than the national average 6 inch cock though

I would actually be ok with this and think this would be a great idea. In Austria we have compulsory military service or, if you are a faggot, you can do some kind of civil service, for example working for the red cross.

I learned all kinds of things there I never really needed, like using a gas mask or shooting with my Steyr Aug, which was very rad in my opinion, but that's not why I think this is a good idea anyway, it would be a great idea because of the following.

When I did my time there, I met all kinds of people I would have never met otherwise, from a borderline retarded assembly line worker to a son of a CEO of a huge bank, who was aristocrat level rich and during our service everyone had to sleep in the same beds, eat the same food and do the same things and nobody cared about your real world status, everyone was a recruit faggot and nothing else.

You could see a cross section of the whole nation there and everyone was forced to live on the same level for 8 (it's 6 now) months. I firmly believe this kind of thing strengthens the cohesion of the nation, by bringing everyone on the same level in serving the nation and giving the normal citizen a potentially important duty within it. Even though our military is a joke I still think it's important and everyone who wants to transform it into a regular professional army is a jackass who doesn't understand this.

>how Steve Irwin really died

And you believe a stupid receptacle like that for what reason? That bitch has obvious mental defects.

I hate the emotionless look in this bitches face. Reminds of Jaws when he talks about lifeless eyes.

>his doesn't resemble a gnarly black branch

If she doesn't have qt hapa daughters and ends up having sons, it'll be a waste of dysgenics. Her children need to have Xx chromosomes... Or if they are born male, they need to be raised as a girl and given a lot of estrogen, to mitigate their loser male lives and prevent "Supreme Gentleman Syndrome".

one problem with that is capacity. imagine how many people would be signing up for service in that scenario. what would they all do? how much would it cost to house, feed, train them over 1-2 years?

she's theoretically physically attractive but she's so damn plain looking

interesting idea
what about disabled people?
oldfags?
would there be roles for them, or would they be unable to obtain citizenship?
felons?

It's a classic US brand of fascism, whose nature is explored in a lot of anerican science fiction (I'd recommend the Chtorr books if you like reading weird shit)

Why you lot decided to throw away all your own socio-political history and just spin in circles going "hurrr love Hitler", I will never understand.

I really hope she likes to be spanked.

something about her face is off

>there is a better alternative.

I wish my brothers and sisters who are veterans would unite to end the tryanny that has plagued our nation for far too long. Mandatory service should be in effect immediately. Family, Country, Faith.

If we were to do Heinleins Federation correctly, >Constitutional Rights should belong to Civilians
>voting should belong to Citizens (Those who served)

But this is very important, the government cannot turn down anyone who requests to volunteer.

Remember, if you read the book, Heinlein emphasizes that ANYONE had the right to join the military to get citizenship. This is something that alot of people overlook and you shouldn't overlook this user.

Heinlein had his Federation allow for guaranteed service for a reason.

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This defeatism shilling bullshit again...

>"resistance is futile, goyim, pls surrender your arms!"

I like this too.

One of the other things that is Cool in the book, is that us humans are governed by experienced elder citizens

That would be fine.

Should also be the only ones allowed to breed.

Do I need to be a citizen to play videogames all day?

Count me in!

>California hands out medals at the border
Veteran refugees welcome.

All systems are shit if the people operating within them are shit.

Even in Starship Troopera all service isn't militaristic.

They make mention of terraformers on venus who get the same rights as mobile infantry soldiers.

Non-warlike conscription is viable, even during world war 2 there were enlisted who didn't serve in combat units but were essentially civil service engineers or blanket folders.

In the book "Service" is not limited to military service.

The idea is to foster a sense of community, like in national socialism. Dumb 56%.

>civic nationalism

why are roasties so vain

>this is what lolbertarians actually believe

This is probably just as effective if not more so t b h. I do believe that home ownership and military service should also have societal rewards, but actually just removing voting rights from welfare recipients would probably fix a lot of problems

Actually, being a net tax contributor should be necessary for citizenship. If you get a pay check from government, you do not vote. The ONLY people who should have a say in governing should be those who pay for that government.

>Overvalues fighters
>Can import mercenary 'new citizens' No.
>Military would have to accept people unable to fight weakening it, If more people wanted to be citizens than could be usefully employed, we would have to create artificial wars.

>When wars are fought by Terminators nobody can be a citizen.

Was -23f this morning in northern NY, NYE is gonna be super comfy

but citizenship already requires military service senpai doing it the other way around only fucks shit up . what are you going do deny people who are disqualifies from military service for health reasons citizenship ?, that seems unreasonable .

I would love a meritocratic republic like that, however the only issue is that to keep it from being corrupted day one we would have to completely rebuild our government.
In the book, federal service was usually not even military service, it was whatever they had that was difficult to ensure that you're willing to put the good of your nation's people above yourself. Fags who just want gibs definitely wouldn't be able to get through in numbers to change anything.
Also abolishing most prisons in favor of public lashings and the death sentence. Beat somebody in town square and they'll be less likely to reoffend.
I'd really like a system like that to happen, I feel that it's truly one of the only systems that could successfully scale up.

would you want a bunch of non citizens to be serving in your military?

but yes, there needs to be tests of commitment
a citizenship test is not enough

In addition, all civilians should have all rights with the exception of franchise. That must be reserved for citizens.
This makes it so there's even less "incentive" to sign up for their rights, they're going through all of this trouble solely for the right to vote. Ideally this would make it harder for people looking for a free ride and gibsmedats

ass not big enough

Starship Troopers universe needs to become real