What makes capitalism so unable to work in reality, as opposed to on paper?

What makes capitalism so unable to work in reality, as opposed to on paper?

Why do people keep defending it, even though it's killed over 200 million people?

Could the reason for its failure possibly be human nature?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo–NKVD_conferences
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/sesupp1.asp
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Central_and_Eastern_Europe
euobserver.com/migration/139966
opinion.inquirer.net/97346/saving-refugees-to-save-europe
opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/Expenditures 2014.FINAL_.7.2.15_0.pdf
politico.com/story/2016/09/george-soros-refugee-wsj-228396
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12118575/Jeremy-Corbyn-All-Calais-migrants-who-want-to-come-to-Britain-should-be-allowed-entry.html
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-announces-left-wing-alternative-solving-europes-refugee-crisis-watch-video-a7315031.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12132785/John-McDonnell-Every-country-will-have-open-borders-by-the-end-of-the-century.html
theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/john-mcdonnell-open-borders-irrelevant-yvette-cooper-bbc-sunday-politics
express.co.uk/news/politics/593968/Corbyn-admits-Karl-Marx-my-communist-hero
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

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Pervasive points, but your use of reddit spacing makes me think that this is a bait thread created to make Communists look bad.

>Extermination of native Americans 100 million
90% of them died due to smallpox is smallpox a part of capitalism?

>Commies so desperate to defend their ridiculous ideology they try and say all deaths caused by human greed, war, or just in general are somehow caused by Capitalism.

Commies should be killed.

>Italian fascist Conquests in Africa
>Fascist terror in Spain
>Nazi terror
>Fascism
>Capitalism

What makes comunism fail every single time it has been attempted?

I liked the one that included hurrican katrina lol

I think its funny how capitalist cucks keep saying that communism failed while capitalism has went through a ton of crisis (latest one being 2007) and has killed more people. The double standard seems weird to me.

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Plus, 100 million is the highest 'reputable' estimate by a large margin, most estimates are considerably lower

capitalism cheats by being a better system

>I think its funny how capitalist cucks keep saying that communism failed while capitalism has went through a ton of crisis (latest one being 2007)
and yet, its still standing. meanwhile, communism had about 70 years and then it crashed and burned completely.

>and has killed more people
it hasnt though.

These are either unrelated to political system or a proof that capitalism works.

>that time when capitalists funded the fascists and the nazis to smash communists and make their country safe for capital has nothing to do with capitalism
>that time when capitalists invaded another country to loot and pillage for resources and profit has nothing to do with capitalism

Its also over the course of the late 1500s-the early 1900s

>>that time when capitalists funded the fascists and the nazis to smash communists and make their country safe for capital has nothing to do with capitalism

>the korea with nukes capable of turning all of usa into rubble is the "bitch"
lol

>>that time when capitalists funded the fascists and the nazis to smash communists and make their country safe for capital has nothing to do with capitalism
:)

>all of USA
>handful of cities, mostly populated by liberals
>if they don’t get shot down
Kim launches one nuke and NK ceases to exist.

Real capitalism has never been tried

>and then it crashed and burned completely.
it's another "user pretends north korea doesn't exist" thread

Go to bed Un

Question: Why would the industrialists who funded the Nazis care about what happens to Poland as long as long as it makes them richer and more secure?
Also the Nazi-Soviet Pact was always a temporary measure, Hitler was talking about how they needed to destroy the Bolsheviks and take Russia's farmland years before the NSDAP started receiving any serious support from the public.

Trump launches one missile and the USA ceases to exist

I mean, it has.

How do you figure?

Damn, this webm of Soviets and Nazis shaking hands with each other automatically invalidates the history of fascism, a pro-oligarchy movement funded by Europe's wealthiest elites to prevent the rise of communism

Yes, the Korea that spends nearly all of its money trying to figure out how to make weapons that have existed for decades in order to fight an imaginary war that would result in their own complete annihilation instead of treating their population like something more than glorified slaves is indeed the bitch.

>avoiding the issue after your retarded and historically illiterate moral grand standing fails horribly

The Soviet Union not only allied with the Nazis and entered into a secret pact with them, but they also supplied them and engaged in the conquest of Poland with them, while committing wanton slaughter along with them of the Polish people (Katyn Massacre) In fact user, I bet you didnt even know that the NKVD and Gestapo were having little pow wows on the best way to torture people

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo–NKVD_conferences

>anytime anyone do anything for profit you can blame capitalism

>capitalist are morally bankrupt for initially supporting fascist movements!
>communist dindu nuffin when they activly traded with them and supplied them while they were ramping up their military and long after the western capitalist countries had become hostile to them though!
>also, them literally being early members of the axis powers and invading Poland WITH the Nazis, as well as being part of a secret alliance with them to conquer eastern europe means nothing!
lol

Please compare how many nukes we have as opposed to the fat man in Norkland.
An outlier, nothing more. A diseased remnant of a dead ideology.
>it has
Oh rlly? Please explain without using shit-tier arguments like the one in OP.

This point seems completely unrelated to what I was addressing in my post.
What exactly is the issue that we're discussing, the Nazi-Soviet pact or the relationship between European Industrialists and the rise of the Nazi Party?

avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/sesupp1.asp

>Both parties will tolerate in their territories no Polish agitation which affects the territories of the other party. They will suppress in their territories all beginnings of such agitation and inform each other concerning suitable measures for this purpose.

hmmm, really makes one ponder

>This point seems completely unrelated to what I was addressing in my post.
No, youre just bullshit because your pathetic attempt at moral grand standing over capitalist failed completely because they thing you are condemming them for, communist did even worse.

How are you going to sit there and wag your finger at capitalist for supporting early fascist movements, and then turning against them once they got out of hand, while just conveintly ignoring the fact that the soviet union was the main supplier to nazi germany, allied with them, and went on wars of conquest, plunder, and slaughter with them? Did this never even enter your mind user?

Read

>anytime anyone do anything for profit you can blame capitalism
This, except unironically

The relationship between the USSR and Nazi Germany has zero relevance to the relationship between European capitalists and the fascist movements in their respective countries.

It's like if I said "apples are really good for you", and you said "nuh-uh retard, the capital of venezuela is caracas"

>tfw a "disased remnant" has cities that look 100x better than your own

It hasnt yet been attempted, little kouhai.

>s-stop focusing on the USSR doing the EXACT same thing Im calling out capitalist for doing, but on a much worse scale!
lol youre stupid point got called out. You should probably spend more time studying history instead of shitty memes before you try to pull this sort of shit on history nerds user.

Wow, all those "Communist Parties" that have had complete control of their countries for decades sure have done a bad job.

so this...is the power...of gommunism

The fact they were allied with each other was just realpolitik, it has nothing to do with opposing ideologies like Capitalism and Communism. I have nothing to do with the moral "discussion" taking place before I dropped in to point out that the Nazi-Soviet pact does not invalidate the idea that the industrialists supported the rise of Hitler, which is what these posts seemed to imply in my opinion.
I know this is a shitty Sup Forums bait thread, but I appreciate you posting some articles relating to the Nazi and Soviet's invasion of Poland. I don't want to be engaged in any "finger-pointing" about ideological points and never meant my points to be taken as such.

Wow, its almost like there was a really bad war in central Europe and everybody got raped by slavs or something.

The USSR did not bring the Nazis to power. German capitalists did that. The Nazis' #1 enemy was the German Communist Party. Immediately when the Nazis came to power, all Communists were arrested and sent to concentration camps.

>buy the iphone goy
>buy the iphone 2 goy
>buy the iphone 2x goy
>buy the iphone 2-Ultra goy
>buy the iphone 2.5 X-Treme goy
>buy the iphone 2.5 X-Treme 4G version goy
Wow look at all that GDP growth! Truly this is the best of all possible worlds.

Like, I know the Malicious Practices Act was supposedly a real thing but I read in another thread on /his/ that rounding people up on a national scale is logistically impossible in 1930s Germany.

>The fact they were allied with each other was just realpolitik
well isnt that convient! when communist deal with nazis by joining hands in wars of conquest and slaughter and plunder, its just realpolitk, but when capitalist countries initially supported Mussolini, they are just le evil satanic villians!

>I know this is a shitty Sup Forums bait thread
oh look, now youre calling me Sup Forums, even though I've been refering to nazis as slaughterers and war mongers this whole time. Looks like that little attempt at an ad hom to hide the fact that your moral grand

Yeah, the communist only supported them right as their war was ramping up and the capitlist turned them all down. Again, you should really study history before you try to pull this stupid shit user. Who was supplying Germanys oil at that time user? What was the purpose of Operation Pike?

That seems ridiculous. Twenty years earlier they had the infrastructure to move millions of German soldiers across the Empire and suddenly they can't arrest a few thousand Communists that weren't scared into submission?

>sophistry in the face of reality
whoa...the gommunist intellect is unmatched!

>when capitalist countries initially supported Mussolini, they are just le evil satanic villians!
Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
When "capitalists" (actual industrial capitalists, not the supporters of a fictional ideology) supported the Nazis it was realpolitik. They saw someone who would advance their interests and gave them the support they needed to take power.
When the Communists supported the Nazis it was also realpolitik. Their attempt to conquer Poland in the 1920s turned into a disaster and they knew they needed support if they were going to win the second round.
This has never been about (as you seem to believe) having the moral highground, stop trying to turn it into some kind of ideological pissing contest.
>oh look, now youre calling me Sup Forums
No, I think this thread is typical Sup Forums bait were someone posts a retarded OP image that people will froth at the mouth over.

Daily reminder that communists should be treated as enemy combatants. Hitler destroyed Europe, killed millions of whites and jews, but ironically he did the world a favor by killing communists every chance he got.

>This has never been about
yes it fucking has. The entire point of the OP image is to shame capitalism for being morally bankrupt by showing that they killed infinity people. Dont try to spin this shit around just because communist got called out for supporting fascism.

>pic related is what bootlicking cucks actually believe

>Commie cracking

>but when capitalist countries initially supported Mussolini, they are just le evil satanic villians!
Literally nobody ITT talked about capitalist countries supporting fascist countries. The point I made here

was that Italian capitalists supported Mussolini, and German capitalists supported Hitler, because capitalists in Italy and Germany were scared of communist revolution.

>if you dont like authoritarian centrally controlled regimes, then you are a boot licker and a cuck!
thats not how that insult works retard lol

>bootlicking
Lmao

>leftists having a unified opinion in anything besides maybe the USSR from 1917-1918
Why do right wingers constantly take a statement from leftist group A and a contrasting statement from group B and then pretend that it’s leftists changing their minds? It’s like if I take a quote from JFK and a Quote from Strom Thurmond and then pretend that they’re the same guy instead of representing two entirely different and opposed factions of their political party.

>The entire point of the OP image is to shame capitalism for being morally bankrupt by showing that they killed infinity people.
In my opinion the OP image is so fucking stupid in the way it attributes all ideologically motivated killings that weren't committed by Socialists or the Nazis to "capitalists" that it's meant to be satirical. Who actually attributes WWI, a purely nationalist struggle born out of pride to "capitalism?" It even has that pig we're supposed to believe is some kind of Communist Pepe.
Let off some steam.

if you support people like Lord Rothschild, the Rockefellers, George Soros and other plutocrat elites who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, you're not only a bootlicker but also a cuck

>cherrypicked photos of Pyongyang (when it’s not having power outages) vs Detroit
Please tell me you’re not actually eating the Nork propaganda and defending the bastards.

>It hasnt yet been attempted
This is what you guys always say, and it’s a load of shit. Based on the current and past attempts I would hope that communism isn’t achieved.

>Who actually attributes WWI, a purely nationalist struggle born out of pride
There's no way anyone is dumb enough to believe this. If you unironically believe "pride", not rival imperialist interests led to WW1 you're a historical illiterate who should get off this forum

What brought the European settlers?

>bastards
The only bastards are the US imperialists. Koreans have never killed Americans on American soil. The US military killed 30% of Korea's population in the Korean Genocide, including via biological weaponry.

Ah, you were just trolling. Never mind then.

yeah because the right wing is know for their love of the rothchilds and george soros. fucking idiot, but keep supporting everything they want while pretending youre against them

Rival imperial interests based on inflated feelings of nationalistic self-worth.
Sure, blame the industrialists at home for making people want to seek out new imperial territories to make themselves richer, but the war itself was fought by nationalists led by nationalists.

George Soros wants communism - that's why he helped overthrow communism. Makes total sense.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Central_and_Eastern_Europe

>According to Waldemar A. Nielsen, an authority on American philanthropy,[98] "[Soros] has undertaken ... nothing less than to open up the once-closed communist societies of Eastern Europe to a free flow of ideas and scientific knowledge from the outside world."[99] From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union.[100] In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary with a budget of $3 million.[101]

If it makes you feel better about yourself, go ahead and believe it.

Too bad he was the main reason why half of Europe was handed over to the gommies

>David Miliband (labour party/head of the IRC) EU should take over 500,000 refugees
euobserver.com/migration/139966

opinion.inquirer.net/97346/saving-refugees-to-save-europe

The IRC is supported by the open society foundation

opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/Expenditures 2014.FINAL_.7.2.15_0.pdf

Soros pleding millions upon millions of dollars into settling refugees here
politico.com/story/2016/09/george-soros-refugee-wsj-228396

now tell me user, is it the right wing who is praising these efforts and the left wing who are combatting them, making soros their number one enemy? or is it the exact opposite?

Ah yes, this reminds me of one of Marx's most well-known quotes.

"The more refugees a country accepts, the more socialister it is" -Karl Marx, 1860

>now tell me user, is it the right wing who is praising these efforts and the left wing who are combatting them, making soros their number one enemy? or is it the exact opposite?

The right wing supports Israel and US imperialism, which makes live in Middle Eastern countries unlivable and forces people to flee Syria, Iraq, Libya, and other countries.

The left wing opposes Israel and NATO imperialism, the root cause of the refugee crisis.

George Soros is a virulent anti-communist. If you call yourself an anti-communist, you're on the same side as George Soros, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, and other parasitic plutocrats.

>completely avoiding the question
yeah, just what I thought. Keep supporting everything Soros is doing while somehow pretending you are fighting against him you "bootlicking cuck"

I answered your question, you're too retarded to understand it though.

The right supports the root cause of the refugee crisis, while supporting tax cuts on people who want millions of more cheap workers from abroad.

The left opposes the root cause of the refugee crisis, and opposes tax cuts to people like Soros who want more refugees.

>muh imperialism!

>I answered your question, you're too retarded to understand it though.
no you didnt, you deflected, just like you are doing now.
Again, who is supporting Soros efforts regarding the refugee crisis? And who are the one fighting against him the most?

Little Ice Age famines? Conflicts in Europe? Generally wanting a better life than the immiserated peasanthood they had?

>i-its the right wing who are in favor of more immigrants and the left who are telling them all to fuck off!
lol how deluded are you at this point? You are even using the right wing talking point of it all just being cheap foreign labor disguised al "le diversity" so all the left wing tards will love it.

>Again, who is supporting Soros efforts regarding the refugee crisis?
Wealthy capitalists who want cheap workers from abroad + useful idiot liberals
>And who are the one fighting against him the most?
Communists. I can think of the CP-GBML among others as anti-revisionist ML parties strongly opposed to mass immigration, correctly identifying it as an elite project for elite interests.

Capitalists also funded the communists.

>capitalists funded the people who want to kill capitalists en masse
makes sense

>who is Jacob Schiff
>what is the Lend-Lease to the USSR in WW2
>what is the US financing Ho Chi Minh against the Japanese
>what is CIA funding Khmer Rouge

>communist are supporting closed boarders
youre retarded user. Stop trying. Not even in original marxism, nor in this failed abortion of neo-marxism, is the very thought of something like that even entertained for a moment. The fact that you are now lying to yourself while also bending to the will of the right and trying to co opt their message is very telling. Just remember what you wrote here the next time the issue of millions of immigrants flooding into the country comes up. Hey, what do you think comrad corbyn and self described marxist John McDonnell would say to this notion...

Not him, but they were supporting closed borders, but it is to prevent emigration, not immigration. Back in the good ole commie days my country was receiving shitload of students and workers from Palestine, Angola and Vietnam while the native citizen wasn't allowed to leave his country (and needed a special government permission to go on vacation and I don't mean visas)

oh, well would you look at that!

>Jeremy Corbyn: All Calais migrants should be given chance to come to Britain
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12118575/Jeremy-Corbyn-All-Calais-migrants-who-want-to-come-to-Britain-should-be-allowed-entry.html

>Jeremy Corbyn is working with socialist leaders across Europe to devise a co-ordinated reponse to solve the growing refugee crisis.

>The Labour leader said he was in discussion with socialist parties across the continent to come up with a "humanitarian response" and called for the UK Government to commit to taking in more refugees than it currently does.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-announces-left-wing-alternative-solving-europes-refugee-crisis-watch-video-a7315031.html

>John McDonnell: Every country will have open borders by the end of the century
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/12132785/John-McDonnell-Every-country-will-have-open-borders-by-the-end-of-the-century.html

>National borders are becoming irrelevant, says John McDonnell
theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/john-mcdonnell-open-borders-irrelevant-yvette-cooper-bbc-sunday-politics

wow, in complete opposition to Soros plans, right user? Seriously, did you actually think anyone would buy into that bullshit lie?

>Jeremy Corbyn
Just some liberal Anglo sodomite, not an actual communist.

>h-hes just a le liberal! not a real communist, even though the other guy is literally calling for an end to boarders!
express.co.uk/news/politics/593968/Corbyn-admits-Karl-Marx-my-communist-hero

youre done user, just admit you were full of shit and that you support Soros

>Karl Marx is my hero
So the same as John Green and the likes? Fuck off you western nigger.

>get utterly BTFO in an argument
>"fuck off!"
GG fag, now go get raped by a muslim

Unless you consider Stalin and Mao heroes as well, you're not a real communist

I live in Eastern Europe, I've literally never seen a muslim in my whole life.

>implying you arent a turkish rape baby

No, I don't live in the Balkans. Turks never got this far north.

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>proud of being a mongol rape baby instead of a turk rape baby

>making shit up
You live in a country full of literal niggers and literal Pakis Nigel.