Every man has a moment in his life when he asks himseld, "who is... best grill?"

Every man has a moment in his life when he asks himseld, "who is... best grill?"

Most certainly not meme shit Kissshot.

You started the thread with her.

Bat is best girl.

Certainly not Shitshot

and deep in their heart the words that resonate are "George Foreman"

I think the George Foreman is a really great grill.

Why would I ask a question I already know the answer to?

I like black hanekawa.

delete these

Nisio Isin is best girl.

It's fine. That means she's loved to the point where she's the first character who comes into mind when you discuss best girls even for people who don't like her.

> "who is... best grill?"
Do you really need to ask?

Clearly it's the Broil King® Imperial™ XLS which features two totally independent ovens with a total of 1000 sq. in. of cooking space and includes 6 stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners, professional cast stainless steel cooking grids, stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system, built-in oven and control knob lights, two electronic igniters. Adding on to that stainless steel side shelves with right side storage drawer and an enclosed cabinet base with two utility drawers and two cabinet doors there is just no way any other grill can compete. Eat your heart out shitty bat.

Kiss-Shot can create fully edible food, cooked to perfection, out of nothing in less than a second.

I could finally derive the answer two years ago.

Don't worry, you have good taste.

>propane

die

Hanekawa is perfection, that's the actual canon even. No point in even thinking about other girls really.

>catfags making shit up again
Why do you even post?

>who is best girl

???

certainly not either one of the Kizusluts.

It's always gonna be Hanekawa

t. salty

>I'll lie and then say that people are mad when I get called out.

>CTRL+F Crab
>0 results

You all have shit taste

>ctrl+f "shit taste"
>1 result
OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT

We've learned too much about her and it's all too 3DPD.

>it's all too 3DPD
It was typical J-Drama soap opera-tier shit, honestly. Right down to the cause of problems being a lack of proper communication between the two and everything. If it were 3DPD she'd marry him and then take the house in a divorce or something.

>She spent an entire season sulking
>With a helmet on, to stop Ragi from making up with her through headpats
Why do people not like her

snail > monkey > bat

Define what makes 'the best girl'

doll > bat > cate > monkey > snail > snek >

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Emperor of Mankind>Sanguinius>Bat>P O W E R G A P>Snail>Monkey>Bee>Crab>Birb>Math>Kaiki>Gaen>Kagenui>Doll>cat

The only correct order

Having her godlike powers stolen is a valid reason to be angry. Then she gets over it on her own and makes up with Araragi in a manner that was a cute combination of mature and childish.

It's not really a lie, but it is canon that people call her inhuman because of being so good she doesn't realize it. But not in the Medaka way of flaunting it, she is also extremely humble, and does try to meet people face to face, while not asserting her talent, which is why people get mad at her.

It's essentially something she can't ever win because people have some innate self-conscious nature, and while she does try to nurture people, that it itself worsens things because it makes people think they are worthless. After all, she was proclaimed an international criminal for doing things most would be praised and lauded for, like stopping blood wars and dismantling dangerous minefields by hand.

So she can't win, and won't ever win because Nisio has a boner for her and Sodachi suffering in their flaws. Hanekawa's is mothering people too much and not taking pride in herself. After all, she only wants to be a normal person.

Shinobu > Hachikuji > Tsukihi > the rest > cold sisters > Nadeko > Gaen

Though, with her recent spree of actually working hard and not being a shit, maybe snake needs to move up a rank.

Everyone knows that best girl is Shinobu

Hanekawa is literally making world peace a reality and gaining a gang of compatriots, with a werewolf girl wet for her, I'd say she has earned a couple places up.

She even has doppleganger bodyguards for yuri group sessions. That's fucking awesome.

As far as being with Araragi is concerned, it's Monkey. Typical "gets along too well with the MC to actually be the love interest, because that'd be too easy/boring" character.

Personally I like Sodachi a lot though. Almost feels like she doesn't belong in this series, honestly.

Going full retard and attempting what is effectively world conquest after being portrayed as intelligent makes me want to drop her further. Other characters opinions of Hanekawa don't influence my own. Theoretical lesbian fanservice is really fucking grasping at straws.

World peace, huh?

>As far as being with Araragi is concerned, it's Monkey. Typical "gets along too well with the MC to actually be the love interest, because that'd be too easy/boring" character.

It's rather the opposite. It's like how you have a friend who you'd give anything for, but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.

Hanekawa is bad because of the mothering she does and the idolatry he feels, very bad for continuing a relationship, however, if they get over that part it's viable. But that would be a hard road. Especially because she is so centered on the peopke around her and not herself, a good partner would make her see that and Koyomi can't because he is awed by her.

Shinobu has a menagerie of problems foreshadowed since the start of the series with the codependent nature of their relationship. You should promote the growth of your partner and yourself. Shinobu is almost a personification about not caring about the future and maintaining the status quo. Then there is Deathtopia and still not doing anything about her and his vampirism but being steeped in the supernatural. Big neon warning signs.

Nisio tries to sidestep a lot of the pitfalls he has with Senjougahara, mainly to keep the narrative of them being a couple going, so the "breakups" are offscreen, and we only see a makeup from cliché lines being thrown about. Yet the fundamental issue of them not being honest or forthright with each other continues. A counselor would say they are in for a rocky marriage if this continues, but Nisio needs it to work.

>but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.
Same goes for any relationship at that stage regardless of whether you have great chemistry with them beforehand or not, what's your point? With Monkey it goes beyond that anyway because the whole reason why she & Araragi get along so well is because they're extremely similar to each other. Unless you rigidly adhere to the whole opposites attract meme there's no particular reason why it wouldn't hypothetically work out.

You sir, made me laugh

>muh vampirism hasn't been permafixed
>why hasn't she fixed external problems she doesn't know about?
Fuck off. You're the only one who thinks it's an issue.

Eh, its not conquest, conquest would mean she aggressively induces violence or violent methods to get the desired affect, but she only uses diplomatic methods.

If she did use violent means, Araragi would bring her in immediately and Sodachi would report her. Meaning this criminal status is likely political BS.

>Shinobu has a menagerie of problems foreshadowed since the start of the series with the codependent nature of their relationship. You should promote the growth of your partner and yourself. Shinobu is almost a personification about not caring about the future and maintaining the status quo. Then there is Deathtopia and still not doing anything about her and his vampirism but being steeped in the supernatural. Big neon warning signs.
Shinobu is doing her best in her relationship with Araragi. I like that

The only thing the sisters have going for them is being too hot for their own good and having nice OPs, lets be real here. Nadeko's better by virtue of actually having a character, even if you dislike said character.

Diplomatic conquest is still conquest. It's just as completely and utterly moronic to attempt as violent world conquest.

And they both decline any option that would clear these problems, since it results in them breaking their bond and having to separate.

>Araragi would bring her in immediately
Could he even do that? What kind of cop is he supposed to be even, I know the work he does for Gaen is a side-job.

Also I thought Sodachi worked in welfare or some shit.

I'm not doing this shit again. Shut the fuck up.

>redditgatari
>youtube screenshot
>ellipses
Really makes you think.

The only reason it isn't an issue is because other people fix things for them, and he "needed" the regen in certain situations that after the fact could have been solved in other ways.

Gaen got Yumewatari and helped Araragi dodge a huge bullet HE caused because he was stupid. Hanekawa helped him from killing himself (again) with Ougi.

And now Deathtopia is coming. I don't say I didn't like the pairing of the two, but you'd be blind to say there aren't inherent flaws.

Ougi wasn't trying to kill Araragi.

Tsukihi has her own, very distinct, character. The core concept is simple: someone who does whatever they feel like at any given moment, but she dials it back and is very good at knowing just how much she can get away with. She's also caring and has a sort-of lopsided perceptiveness that's really cute and occasionally touching. I'm not saying she the best, but she definitely stands out from the pack.

When does she ever dial it back? She was the only character in Nadeko Medusa/Hitagi End who tells Nadeko how it is (and then goes too far after that) instead of coddling the hell out of her even.

I thought she's vampire not elf

That was the one time she went further than what she could get away with. She probably thought it was a good cause and was prepared to accept the consequences. All the other times, she stops short of really pissing anyone off, and she listens to her brother when he seriously tells her to do something.

But she isn't looking to conquer though, people call her a monster because it seems like she is gaining territory.

But no one sane would call that conquest when you are ending strife in war torn countries without violence or backdeals.

Ending wars in backwater countries through diplomatic deals? Fine. Trying to permanently end war/borders? You need to unite everyone under one government. Good fucking luck.

The bullet was designed to be dodged, Ougi forced himself into a situation where he was forced to make a decision about his vampire powers instead of just continuing to use them whenever convenient.

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>It's rather the opposite. It's like how you have a friend who you'd give anything for, but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.
That's shitty logic. Yeah, living with someone will bring obstacles into the relationship. That doesn't mean that it's better to live with someone you're not too friendly with instead of living someone you're already incredibly friendly and open with. Being afraid of seeing their flaws after getting to know them too well is an autistic way to approach it even compared the standards of the crackpots in this series, sasuga user.

MONKEY

This one is pretty good

a best

If you haven't noticed, that user has "special" ideas about how relationships work.

No one said it was easy, and she confided in Araragi it was fatiguing her.

That would work only if he didn't do the silly thing of almost killing himself with Ougi when he accepted what she was. Hanekawa literally saved his balls on that. And he could have avoided confronting Nadeko over and over needlessly, that was all on him, even if the situation was thanks to Ougi.

And I'm saying it's impossibly difficult and even the concept is generic, thoughtless, and naive. Her choice of life work is stupid and disappointing.

I never said it couldn't work, I was saying that it's not magically going to work over every other possible relationship as you were implying, nor was I saying you couldn't accept your partner's flaws. Every relationship has flaws. I'm a Hanekawa guy, but even I pointed out what was wrong there.

Her choice of work before becoming an activist was being in an NGO helping others in war torn countries. And the thing is, she is successful, or she wouldn't be as renowned or wanted by her "enemies", which are likely people who misunderstand her intentions.

So it's obvious why she would be fatigued. However, given she us doing good work around the world, saying it like it's something to he disappointed in when it's the logical next step in her working for a non profit organization is suspect. It's not like she gets huge donations on Patreon or something.

Shut the fuck up and post more snake

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You're still ignoring how fucking stupid and generic a thing world peace is to work for. It's a pretty thing to say, but the reality doesn't let it work.

I want an alternate universe book where araragi decides to stay a vampire with kiss shot after restoring her.

Sodachi works on the town hall, where Hanekawa invaded and stole her documents. She only said there was an uproar there, but Sodachi and Hanekawa didn't meet.

She was invited by the guy who was helping her during Sodachi Lost, so it's easy to assume she was in his department doing similar things. She even says "I don’t have one whit of a laudable goal like putting myself in the care-providing side in order to help pitiable kids like I was." and Araragi thinks she is an "easy-to-understand tsundere" when she says that.

Fake lolis are the worst.

Fake lolis are the best. All the youthful charm with none of the stupid, shitty kid.

ok

A world where he killed Episode and decided to stay a vampire.

Outreach and diplomatic aid programs are a thing, and she has been doing those things for awhile now. She has done a lot of things. It's why they call her the modern day Jeanne D' Arc.

Never ignored what you were saying, it just doesn't apply here unless you want to say that a nonprofit member like volunteers in the Red Cross that rose up and tried to enact her ideals was fundamentally wrong. Even when they were also doing objectively good work.

>and Araragi thinks she is an "easy-to-understand tsundere" when she says that.
That's pretty much how she came off as in that entire conversation to me.

Astra Militarum approves.

And yet almost no one in the course of her life could properly understand her intentions.

According to the summaries, other kids at Naoetsu used to see her being kind behind the scenes and called her Oikura Angel. But it was Crab who said this, so we can't take it at face value.

*meant commentaries, not summaries

It might have been the boy that confessed to her according to Fiasco though.

Not to downplay Sodachi at all but the same applies to most of the cast to varying degrees. By Musubi she and Araragi have an alright mutual sense of understanding of each other atleast.

I thought the kids bullied her behind her back or something? and also shipped her with Araragi behind her back because of how abnormally often they bickered in class or some shit

It was probably a mix of all of them. Naoetsu is a big school and she was pretty well known, there was bound to both be people who liked and disliked her.

It'd be nice a version of the musubi chapter in Sodachi's perspective, with all her internal overreactions and happy of his disgrace, and showing how well she can read Araragi as well.

spoopy ougers

They shipped them together and talked behind her back but we don't know exactly the severity of that since crab is a bitch, math overreacts a lot and araragi became too anti-social. At the very least it doesn't seem like the class made an effort to make amends after the class trial episode in which the caused their classmate to become a truant.

onii-chan

my nigga

Crabfags BTFO

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