Even the Nazis allowed abortion for cases like this. Where the person being born inherits a physical or mental condition that causes untreatable, debilitating and agonizing suffering. The Nazis were kinder and more humane than you Christgoys.
Fuck you Christniggers so much. An immeasurable number of people have been forced to suffer for your shitty false kike god and the charlatan prophet you worship. I'm glad abortion is legal and will expand and I consider myself right-wing nationalist. You are absolutely wrong on this issue.
christians will let a nigger rape your wife and have the down syndrome black baby because it's a sin to abort. absolute garbage religion
Andrew Thompson
I'm pro killing babies, but I'm against giving women a choice
Nicholas Moore
They probably contribute more than your average /r9k/ user
Brayden Diaz
Holy shit, she looks like you.
Julian Ortiz
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Brandon Hall
Seeing this I amm always reminded of that man, you know the one that moves his baby as if it were a toy. It gives me such a bad feeling, my heart sinks in pity.
Brandon Moore
They look healthy to me. Why do you even care about the wellbeing of other people? You should mind your own business.
Jordan Thompson
100% This. Christcucks are the most gullible imbeciles you’ll ever meet.
Alexander Gomez
because you are a braindead christkike
Chase Foster
>Abortion is about eradicating genetic deformities in a humame way and not about creating an envirment for women to behave irresponsibly while killing innocent babies because LOL ITZ MY BODY XD XD XD XD XD XD XD!!1!one!!1
Weeeeeeeeeeew, lad.
Hunter Young
>muh innocent babies
Cells are not a fucking baby retard.
Blake Davis
Furthermore unwanted pregnancies happen more in areas where the abortion laws are stricter or there's a ban
Hunter Green
>healthy they literally just have a brainstem
Logan Turner
*You're* just a collection of cells, dipshit. Can I morally justify jamming an eggbeater up your ass for being an inconvenience?
>Unwanted pregnancies occur more frequently in areas where abortion is not freely available.
No shit? Really? Juggle my fucking balls, you clown.
Easton Wright
So what? People are diverse and that is beautiful. Do you want to kill them for being different you Nazi?
If you're smart you will find lots of opportunities to make money thanks to people's differences. They maybe depend on a drug or a service. It's good for the economy.
Lucas Davis
>you're just a collection of cells
I'm consciously aware so I have the legal rights of personhood you fucking idiot. A fetus is not a person as much as a yolk of a chicken egg being a chicken. Surprise, when people are allowed abortion, there are less unintended pregnancies. It doesn't shirk responsibility at all retard. I'm not talking about unintended births but unintended pregnancies you cretin.
Asher Mitchell
Fuck off kikes.
There are millions of christians with their own sets of beliefs.
Plenty of Christians are ok with aborting retards
Jonathan Hill
Once we can genetically manipulate the DNA then this will not happen I think people who where born with genetic deformity's were born for a reason that reason being that we can study there geno code and learn from it to find out what genes do what since it takes thousands of variations to the DNA strand just to change lets say height so a debilitating genetic disorder would be more difficult without different variants and multiple samples from different subjects to study. More over i think that the people born with genetic disorders are put here so if we start to wounder "what would happen if we do this" we will already be certain about what would happen and avoid and learn from the knowledge already given to us by said genetic abnormality's.
Jaxon Gutierrez
The neighbours down the street have a daughter who is "challenged." If they're doing yard work or something I'll say hi. The one day the Dad remarked that the worst part is that he doesn't know what will happen to her once he and the wife are gone. She can't look after herself.
Oliver Davis
>Egg That is a chicken lmao. If that egg was furtile, and you gave it awhile, it would be a chicken. >Nut That is a tree, same thing just give it time and a tree would be there >Dress Well yeah because a dress needs still to be made, dress are not 100% silk. >Human Same as the egg and nut give it time and it will look more like what it actually is
Austin Lee
Here's a fertile and non-fertile egg yolk. The one on the left still isn't a fucking chicken moron. It CAN develop into a chicken but it currently isn't one.
Same with nuts. Nuts are not a tree. It can become a tree but it currently is not one.
>HURRR DURR IT IS GENETICALLY A CHICKEN BUT IT DOSE NOT LOOK LIKE A CHICKEN HURRDURRR IT MUST NOT BE A CHICKEN THEN The genes still say it's a fucking chicken. so it's a chicken same with the nut
> In fact, a human being begins to exist no earlier than a couple of weeks after conception, All this says is that since THEY think a human being is at gastrulation therefore any thing else is not a human, because they say so. This has noting to do with genetic makeup at all.
This is an opinion from the fucking Department of Philosophy. That's not biology. They strawman an argument then they btfo'd an argument they made
Sebastian Anderson
>it's genes still say it's a fucking chicken
It has the same genetic dna has a chicken but it hasn't developed into a chicken yet. You are committing an equivocation fallacy. Potential to become a chicken =/= chicken in its current state.
I never brought up humans, I brought up persons. A fetus is not a person. A person is self-aware, conscious and can experience pain.
Tyler Davis
> Potential to become a chicken =/= chicken It's already a fucking chicken dude. Looking at a furtle egg and a chicken's DNA there is no difference. Thus they are the same thing A potentially to become a chicken would be an egg that has not yet been fertilized since it's only half or so from the complete thing
>I never brought up humans, I brought up persons. Your source brang up humans. this greentext > In fact, a human being begins to exist no earlier than a couple of weeks after conception, Is a quote from your source.
>A fetus is not a person. A person is self-aware, conscious and can experience pain.
Cool. Dose that mean a fetus is not a human? No not a person okay. But that dose not matter since killing people in coma's with no chance of them waking up. So not self-aware, conscious and cannot experience pain, is still murder. So must be a fetus. Becuase genetically then are the same thing
Anthony Moore
Personally I think that it's a blessing that we Christians are so human and hospitable. After all, Christ himself said love your neighbor as yourself. How many people on Sup Forums actually follow that super-important commandment?
Ryan Perry
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Jason Miller
It sharing the same dna does not mean it has developed into a chicken. It CAN develop into a chicken but at its current stage it is not one. No fucking biologist calls chicken egg yolks as chickens or a nut as a tree for this reason. Potentiality is not the same as actuality.
The image I originally posted it was referring to "persons". Pulling the plug on a person in a coma IS killing the person, I never denied that. However it is not always wrong to kill people.
>is still murder
Murder is unlawful killing. So abortion is not murder by definition. If you wanted to claim that abortion is killing, I would have no problem. But it's not killing a person therefore it's completely fine.
Robert Powell
fuck you you stupid nigger
Blake Mitchell
untreatable disease >blackness should of been aborted look at that whore.. should of been shot
Owen Gomez
Not the majority of them, you kike loving faggot.
Luis Barnes
>It sharing the same dna does not mean it has developed into a chicken It cannot develop into something it already is dude. Nothing changes besides physical appearance, and cognitive abilities.
Tell me whats changes GENETICALLY from a fetus to a man. Please Also >Murder is unlawful killing Can you not copy the whole thing? >Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse LOL I AM KILLING THIS THING INSIDE ME BECUASE LOL LIKE I CANNOT KEEP IT MY PARENTS WILL FREAK LOL Is not a valid reason. Just like if you kill a preggo women, it's a double homicide.
> But it's not killing a person therefore it's completely fine Maybe to you, but not to other people
Josiah Edwards
Are you an insecure faggot who isn't even a Christian or something?
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Blake Evans
They'd have killed you for being a weird autist that nobody likes.
Jace Wood
"heh you worship a kike? i worship the gods of my people."
Adam Ramirez
blackness should be treated as an incurable disease in america becuase they dont respond right.. any at all what ? dooes the department pay you overtime for tonight? fuck face get off my fukcing godamn tax billl
Thomas Ross
"I thought Pagans were white supremacists and hated us?"
"What??? Darlin those people are a fringe minority and we hate them! Now come 'ere and give daddy a kiss!"
Jayden Walker
This is what pagans look like.
Brandon Wilson
>it cannot develop into something it already is dude
Look up stages of development numbnuts. Again, it isn't a chicken in its current state even if it shares the same dna. It can become a chicken. This is basic biology. To call a chicken yolk a chicken or a nut a tree because they share the same DNA is batshit retarded. No biologist does this because even if they share the same genetic profile, they do not share the same BIOLOGICAL profile that would constitute a chicken or a tree.
>tell me what changes genetically
No. What changes biologically you mean. I'm not using bullshit goalposts. It cannot feel pain, it is not sentient, the brain is not developed, etc. All this is why it's not a person.
>is not a valid reason
Actually it is. Otherwise abortion wouldn't be legal.
>if you kill a preggo woman it's double homicide
Not in the vast majority of areas or countries, including Canada. You're retarded.
>maybe to you but not other people
Good thing euthanasia and abortion is legal in Canada and has wide support. Most people don't awallow your Christfaggot nonsense.
James Gonzalez
*pant*
"ODIN GIVE ME STRENGTH!!"
*cough wheeze*
"I MUST FINISH THIS PARADE!! MUST BRING GLORY TO ELDER GODS!!!"
*cough pant*
"MCDONALDS....SO CLOSE...THOR HELP!!"
Matthew Nguyen
"STAY BACK CHRISTKEKS!!! I WILL DEFEND M'LADY FROM YOU EVIL SEMITE SLAVES!!!"
"MY HERO!!"
Benjamin Wilson
fuck christian faggots.
Jaxon Murphy
kek obesity is highest in the southern most christfag states. it's the lowest in the least-religious.
christfags are obese
Blake Ramirez
"You missed your last meeting, Blognak! The elder gods miss you!"
Benjamin Martin
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Wyatt Long
*pant wheeze*
"Watch out Christians! real white man coming through!"
Connor Brown
>Look up stages of development AHHH HAAA HAAA COGNITIVE ABILITIES. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH YOUR FUCKING STUPID I EVEN SAID THOSE DO NOT COUNT HAHAAHAH
>Actually it is. Otherwise abortion wouldn't be legal. >Actually it is. Otherwise abortion wouldn't be legal. Yes someplaces do not allow abortions. Just because some do dose not mean you cannot discuss it >Not in the vast majority of areas or countries, including Canada. You're retarded Not in the vast majority of areas or countries, including Canada. You're retarded Nice ad-hommine. SO you agree that some places do consider fetuses as people and thus i am right???
>Good thing euthanasia and abortion is legal in Canada and has wide support. Most people don't awallow your Christfaggot nonsense. Never said i was christian, also not an argument considering some places also allow stoning of women, and rape. Dose it mean that it's right? No anything can be discussed, on if it is right or wrong
Cameron Gray
"BY DA POWA OF THOR, I CONSECRATE DIS OFFERIN' TO DA ELDA GAWDZ!!!! SHEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIT!!!!"
Cooper Thompson
Holy fuck you're more gay than I even thought. I bet that you have a massive folder full of interracial porn and blacked cuck fantasies.
Ethan Davis
>Majority of whites aren’t Nazis wtf I hate White people now >(((You)))
Wyatt Richardson
>No. What changes biologically you mean. I'm not using bullshit goalposts. It cannot feel pain, it is not sentient, the brain is not developed, etc. All this is why it's not a person.
We are not arguing if it is a person. We are arguing if it is a human. I already agreed it's not a person. But it sure as hell a human.
Colton Ward
"Trust me and my followers to protect the West. We are sane and rational individuals who definitely don't live in a fantasy world of larping."
Xavier Powell
hahahaha my thoughts exactly. laughed hard at the picture, god willed it, for all you know #1) their souls deserve #2) they enjoy life in a way you can't fathom because they have to appreciate certain things or #3) they are here to teach the parents/humanity a lesson
tip your fedore well nto the new year my young poler! You will see the light soon enough!
Alexander White
[autistic screeching]
THOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR
Thomas Robinson
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Caleb Adams
Those 2 kids are the futrue of humanity watch your mouth boi.
Colton Jones
Yeah but who gives a shit what you think? You're a nigger worshipped so nobody can take you seriously.
Samuel Thompson
Oh and PS: Though agnotsic and don't really give a shit about what you are told to like sorry about those defrocked rabbis and preachers that touched you as a child and made you into a faggot fuck.
James Hernandez
>THEY DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAY SO
So you're an absolute fucking retard. Again, the reason why nuts and chicken yolks are not called trees or chickens even though they share the same genetic dna is because the biological profiles between the two are completely different. You're a mouth breathing cunt.
>yes some places do not allow abortions
This is not my point. Abortion is allowed in virtually every first world country for a reason. Even in countries that disallow it the laws have become more liberalized in the recent years. If abortion is murder, why isn't illegal? Murder is a legal term retardm
>some places do consider fetuses as people
The vast majority do not because it's retarded. The most christfag low-IQ states and locales do. No objection there.
>does it mean it's right
It is. You've offered no reasons as to why it'd be wrong. My position is rooted in science and the vast majority of scientists in first world countries say abortion is not the killing of a person. Thus it's not wrong (and even the killing of people is not wrong in all cases.)
Don't really give a shit about what christfaggots think.
Julian Nguyen
The original argument I brought up was that it's not a person. Glad you conceded it.
Christopher Fisher
So you are arguing that since they have phenotypic and congative differences they are but different in the sense of what they are? Thats just stupid dude. Sure can you categorize them differently based on physical appearance? Sure but they are still the genetically identical. From a genetic view point they are the same thing.
>If abortion is murder, why isn't illegal? IT FUCKING IS DUDE. these places have it illegal Holy See, Malta, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Chile. Why? because they view it as murder. So yes ABORTION IS MURDER, in some countries at least.
>The vast majority do not because it's retarded. That's still not an argument. Just because some places say black people are not people, dose it mean 100% black people are not people? No. It is up to debate, considering it is not 100% agreement with the community.
>It is. You've offered no reasons as to why it'd be wrong killing people by throwing stones at them is not wrong? Are you stupid?
>. My position is rooted in science and the vast majority of scientists in first world countries say abortion is not the killing of a person >vast majority of scientists in first world countries say abortion >vast majority So you want mob rule????? is that what you want? almost all scientist in ancient Greece thought Germs did not exist? Dose it mean during that time Germs did not exist? NO germs were always there. The scientific method is based of disproving and finding better way to describe what/how something happens. What is mob rule Right now, dose not mean it's automatically right.
Tyler King
no you did not. Quote exactly where you said it
Jordan Williams
wait i see it >A fetus is not a person My bad. Yet do agree a fetus is a person?
Ethan Richardson
do you agree a fetus is a person*
Jaxson Mitchell
Fuck lmao. Do you agree a fetus is a human?*
Lincoln Thompson
Hey asshole, I am completely in favor of "aborting" libtards at ANY age.
David Parker
I'm arguing that they do not share the same biological characteristics even if they share the same dna. This is why biologists do not call egg yolks or nuts chickens or trees. The argument is not they are genetically different but they are biologically different. Get it through your thick skull.
>it fucking is dude
No you moron. Again murder is a legal term. If abortion is legal by definition it's not murder.
>gives third world shitholes
Good thing abortion is legal in the majority of countries.
>that's still not an argument
I've already told you why fetuses are not people. They possess no ability to be conscious, feel pain or are self-aware. Thus to classify them as persons is retarded. You agreed with me when you said they are not persons either.
>killing people by throwing stones at them is not wrong
No, I'm talking about abortion. You've given no reasons as to why it's wrong. To classify it as murder is incorrect because murder by definition is the unlawful killing of a person. You've yet to say why abortion is wrong. A fetus again is not a person. You are not killing a person.
>so you want mob rule
I want the consensus of actual doctors and scientists, not fucking armchair christfaggot ethicists on Sup Forums. Some people's conclusions on this issue matter and hold more weight than others.
see Read "this is not a person".
Caleb Sanchez
>The argument is not they are genetically different but they are biologically different My argument is that all that matters is the genetics since if the genetics are already there and are working, that is all that matters.
>No you moron. Again murder is a legal term. If abortion is legal by definition it's not murder. So in those countries, i am right?
>I've already told you why fetuses are not people. They possess no ability to be conscious, feel pain or are self-aware. Thus to classify them as persons is retarded. You agreed with me when you said they are not persons either. Yes, but are fetuses humans? > You've yet to say why abortion is wrong. I already have murder is the defamation of killing a human unlawfully en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder and saying >LOL I NEED TO KILL THIS BABY B/C HER FORGOT A CONDOM is not lawful. murder is killing a human, and a baby is a human.
>I want the consensus of actual doctors and scientists, Consensus dose not mean it's right. also >Some people's conclusions on this issue matter and hold more weight than others. Nope lmao. Right now we have stepped away from science and have started arguing about morals. With the idea if a fetus is a person because the person definition were using WAS DEFINED BY YOU. I can easily define persons to just be humans, and that's it.
And I'm saying that this is absolutely wrong. My position is the scientific consensys. Genetics alone are not sufficient to call a chicken egg yolk a "chicken" in any meaningful sense because it lacks many of the biological characteristics which make a chicken. Same for nuts/trees or fetuses/people. Your position is fucking stupid and has no grasp whatsoever on biology.
>so in those countries I am right
Technically yes, however the relevant debate would be IF abortion should be classified as murder or not. Not whether it's classified as murder or no.
>yes are but fetuses humans
Genetically yes, however they lack much of the biological characteristics as human. The relevant debate is whether they are persons or not, and they aren't.
>murder is the definition of killing a human unlawfully
>unlawfully
If abortion is legal it ISN'T murder retard. Murder is a legal term. So it isn't murder. Your own link says "unlawfully and without valid justification." Abortion is both lawful and a valid justification.
>consensus does not mean its right The judgements of certain people hold more weight and credibility than others. In this case what scientists and doctors think > armchair dipshit on Sup Forums. So yes, consensus by itself is not indicative of a thing, however evidence COUPLED with consensus is. And that is a fetus is not a person and not a killing of a person.
>nope lmao
Yes. If you want to talk about morals than even the vast majority of bioethicists say abortion is not wrong. The most supported definition of personhood by bioethicists is that said being must be conscious, self-aware and can feel pain. Fetuses do not fulfill any of these criteria thus they are not persons.
