He's right and you know it

He's right and you know it.

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Except that it's been worse in the last tens of thousands of years and nowadays is the most economically egalitarian time in history, at least when it comes to living standards.


>inb4 internationalist shit
Africa isn't our problem and their living standards increased under colonialism. Europeans were a positive influence and you know it.

That means we have to take everything from rich people that worked hard their whole life to have a lot of money and give it to parasites that havent worked once in their lifetime ? Nah

>somehow human biology and favoring incentives for work is not normal

Really ruffles my shekels

Listen to kike shapiro here...

youtube.com/watch?v=aGooHl2R_Y8

It doesn't force anyone to do shit. You are free to live in poverty, or you are free to make connections and work hard and smart to make money...

I don't owe anyone fucking shit. Especially dumb fucks that don't produce shit or commies.

>forces people to live on the street

Give me a fucking break. Capitalism didn't make people mentally ill or force them to shoot up drugs. If you aren't a lazy POS you won't be homeless forever. I found my last job before I graduated college walking around Walmart parking lot asking people if they knew of any work.

There's people in America with full-time jobs who are homeless.

Sober and sane people.

He kind of is. Hunter gatherer tribes a.k.a. natural state of man are highly egalitarian.

Thus the state must put the taxes it takes into somehting usefull for once and create new race of man, human 2.0, perfectly adapted to capitalism.

>That means we have to take everything from rich people that worked hard their whole life to have a lot of money and give it to parasites that havent worked once in their lifetime ?
That's just how Inheritance works.

Then they are inferior and should commit suicide.

Nation is like a body and citizen is nothing but a cell. And how do you call a cell that doesn’t self terminate when it is its time? Cancer cell!

No, he's not. You are just stupid.

>capitalisim's super abundance is absurd

No he isn't. The most absurd thing is that there are still people that complain about capitalism while providing no value to society and wondering why they're poor.

you also extract resources from land under communism and those resources are also not directly distributed to the local populace W T F

Substitute the word capitalism for communism and it is perfectly accurate.

your opinion is not an argument

Actually the norm for human history is much more brutal and oppressive than capitalism. Capitalism is a utopia compared to feudalism.

Yes, things were much better in the time of kings under feudalism. inequity only exists under capitalism.

there is great mobility troughout the social strata of society. if your only gift is inheritance and you are still an idiot, you will not give the same amount of wealth on to your children. but i digress, obviously you dont understand the underlying system you speak of

you are talking to marxists.. you realy think their intellectual abilities go that far?

you are a fucking idiot that swallows easily recognizable emotional blackmail and borderline idiotic drivel you should be embarrassed to the point of dropping your idiot ideology..
Or at least you would be if you had brain cells for more than shitting and pissing.
But i get it you still need to grow up.
"If you are not a leftwing idiot in your youth you have no heart, if you are still a leftwing idiot after 25 you have no brain.

>why do a few of us have to be miserable when I want everyone to be just as miserable as I am?
t. socialist/communist

It's the same thing in this context.

>people being allow to personally own things leads to poverty and inequality!
>if only we took away their right to do so, everybody would be rich!

People don't seriously believe this, right?

He’s right in way.

The moment too many poorfags start to think c apitalism left them behind and offers them no chace to get ahead you have revolution. Soldiers are poorfags too, isn’t US army stuffed with poir minorities?

Obvious solution is to upload our minds into immortal robot bodies and then kill the 99% with poison gas.

Why are you faggots responding to a memeflag?

you believe in anarcho capitalism.. id say people are retarded all over the place. you are a prime example

Its just as natural as communism.

must be why all the cummunist retards in america likely come from wealth, huh?

you're a socialist, so your understanding of economics is just as retarded as the person in OP's pic.

socialist? are you retarded?

He is right. That's why we need the SIEGEPILL.

There must be 100,000 years worth of cavemen communes being absolute nightmares of tyranny, greed, and mismanagement, all lost to time.

>there is great mobility troughout the social strata of society
What kind of society?
>if your only gift is inheritance and you are still an idiot, you will not give the same amount of wealth on to your children
But this still might be enough for a few generations of idiots.
>obviously you dont understand the underlying system you speak of
i'm 12 yo btw

Socialism needs a permanent underclass to stay relevant.

Every problem communists have with capitalism is caused by Jews, you know. When you cry about "the elite" and "the top 1%", you're actually talking about Jews. But you blame whitey anyway.

Nothing but deflection in this thread.

No direct response to his stance.

No where in that single post does he talk about anything other than the failings of capitalism, not that there are better alternatives, such as communism.

There are problems with capitalism, as he listed, and cannot be denied whatsoever.

Solutions are needed.

Show me the money.

you just proved my point. if you dont work hard and continue to provide products or services to in exchange for values that increase your personal wealth, your personal wealth will over time diminish.

the premise of freedom and liberty which are underlying values of any free enterprise systems at no point say that you are not allowed to save for the benefit of your children, or that there has to be parity and/or fairness within one generation.

if you are a loser right now, at least you can be assured that thousands of your ancestors were absolute winners who made it as far as to give birth to a shitstain like you. not everyone will win, maybe your line ends with you. dont shit into other peoples pies just because you are too dumb to see the good in freedom.

No one man is capable of working hard enough to earn millions of dollars. You get rich at the expense of other people's sacrifices. Capitalism works by secrecy, subterfuge, and dishonesty.

And the funny thing is this alleged infallible system takes a nose-dive into the mud unless there is some big government (ie socialism) SUBSIDIZING corporations.

In other words, capitalism doesn't work. lol

Yup, if you believe in public charity programmes and help (even if this is any public thing), you are

i am against any form of welfare programs of the government. private charity is your business. but it is not the governments mandate to steal from some to give to others under any circumstance.

except you are not correct. but what would a collectivist like you understand of economy..

>Solutions are needed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

I will attempt to create solution i suppose.

from the beginning:

>People live in streets while others live in luxury estates

The problem is obviously that the people on the streets have no way of earning/earning enough income to live in a residence.

What is required is the creation of public works projects wherever there is significant amounts of homelessness that pay minimum amounts and will take on literally anyone whether they have criminal record/felony/drug habits. This will stabilize criminal elements that are criminal by circumstance and reduce homelessness but still be productive and gain work experience/job skills to move on to something better.


>Millions go hungry while we throw away enough food to feed them all

Countries have no obligation to take care of non-citizens so fuck africa and shieeeet.

Feed the poor of your own citizenry. Period.
There should never be people starving.
Government already subsidizes farms so they don't fail from lack of profitability (due to overabundance). So this is just plain ridiculous. This goes hand in hand with previous point. With food taken care for, and public work, affording home will be easy.

>extract resources/blah blah

Get in on that shit. It's unskilled labour that anyone can go and sign up for. Coal mining and shit pays fuckloads. But of course, not everyone is cut out for such work, but those resources go to produce the goods that people need so I don't see how this particular point is so bad.

>absurdity of capitalism

Propaganda permeates every corrupt society.

Civil war now. Founding fathers foresaw that in order to keep government in check revolution against the ever growing waste and corruption and inefficiency of government must be completely culled and replaced in order to set things right.

There i tried to answer it myself. in like 10 minutes on the spot.

>if
>i am against any form of welfare programs of the government
And the government does not.

yet a genius like you cannot even articulate why I'm wrong...

Lol cry harder u faggot pseudo-intellectual

...

Taking the money from rich fags and distribute it among poor fags doesn' t make everyone rich.

I have to hand it to you, have a nice day

Ok great, when will governments stop subsidizing fortune 500s??

You know, sink or swim, Herbert Spencer social darwinism up by ur bootstraps?

If Capitalism works so well then why are we paying thecway for these large business interests?

Name one country that is implements true free market.

You can’t.

imagine you are some lonely faggot chemist in a basement. you put away your waifu pillow and anime shows for a few weeks and by miracle you come up with a new drug that cures all forms of toe ailments.

the society you live in has hundreds of thousands who need your product because they all have stinky toes that hurt.

literaly how any and all the big successstories started one way or another.

liberia
true free market.

And not to mention without capitalist streets to live on, they would all die. There would be nothing for them to eat and not a bit of shelter. Those people could not survive without begging, stealing or trash digging.

I think capitalism is about giving people the choice of being able to work really hard and archieve greatness or have a humble life working less and caring for the people you love.
The person that works super hard shouldn't have the same financial level as the guy that just fucks around doing the minimum possible.

The problem comes when people abuse a system but that's not the formula's fault, it's just something inherent in humanity. People will abuse those who choose not to abuse others. Someone would have to come up with a corruption-proof system because communism has exactly the same problem as capitalism: people.

There are perfectly ablebodied leeches living off society's safety net in housing they destroy and wasting funds meant for food on junks food and cigarettes while contributing nothing. these wastes of oxygen sponge up what would normally have been affordable housing for that hard working individual while also gaining resources for just having children.

Maybe if they're a heroin junkie or

its not capitalism to subsidize anything. i am against subsidies. one way to go about that would be to take away power from government and its institutions to trow around money. this can be done trough a solid constitution that limits the scope of government and would make lobbying useless, since no official is allowed to implement legislation that can benefit one company over another.
its not rocket surgery to do so. and cronyism is rampant in modern societies because of big government - not because of capitalism

Eradicate all of the niggers and Liberia would be prosperous.

I live in fuckin Brazil, and only retarded, drug addicted and lazy people live on the streets. In america, the land o opportunitty, if you are in that same condition you should be eliminated from the gene pool, there is no salvation.

Why talk hypotheticals?

Most of the major contributions to humanity were not motivated by profit. The gutenberg press, nikolai tesla, computers...

But tell me; if capitalism and free markets work so well why does the government keep needing to subsidize corporate interests and pay their way???

No answer yet... strange

Those are problems with human nature. Soviet Russia had the most fertile land on Earth, and the people tilling it were starving. Fuck off with your willfill ignorance.

Because once you are at the top of the ladder your concern is consolidating power and solidifying your position. It serves them to retain useful minions with which to prevent natural competition from rising.

Yeah but capitalism has never worked without government subsidies.

This is the part where you sound like a communist...
ready?
"B-B-But muh true capitalism has never been tried before!!!"

what are you talking about? capitalism doesnt work? where do you live?

what did the part of the world you live in look like 100, 200 or even 500 years ago? want to go back to serfdom as a peasant in feudal times?

faggot you cant even get your fucking facts straight.

Wrong.

Liberia was extremely prosperous nation after afro-merifats immigrated back to africa landing in Liberia but afro-american colonization society.

United states funded terrorists and caused civil war to tear it down.

Normally i don't give a shit about niggers chimping but US tore it down to prevent gold-backed standard implementation which would've completely butt-fucked united states petrol-dollar. (presumably) or maybe the US just didn't want the competition.

Ok fine, but by that stage you have a form of socialism (big government, redistribution of wealth to corporations, huge overreach, and free state subsidized R&D for corporate interests via universities)

Funny how capitalists have no problem with socialism when they benefit from it.

But for us plebs it's sink or swim, up by ur bootstraps, work harder goy!

>In other words, capitalism doesn't work. lol

What do you propose then?

Maybe ur just too dumb to comprehend simple arguments.

The world does not run on self-righteous indignation.

Try again.

>Africa isn't our problem and their living standards increased under colonialism. Europeans were a positive influence and you know it.

Jayant Bhandari says Africa is doomed unless White people or the Chinese take it over.

youtube.com/watch?v=hzXZYVogffE

Yeah!!! Why have a few people starve when we can have all people starve!?!?!?!!!!

National Socialism.

That did work.

While the (((Western world))) crashed '30s Germany was literally a workers paradise.

National Socialism = Aryan Socialism. The only socialism that works.

Heil Hitler!

if you want an example of corruption in government. one of the best examples of this is how the government of the united states became bigger and bigger. look up hamilton and the creation of the first "federal" banks of the united states.

capitalism works great. problems arise then you have no checks on legislation to defer from implementing law that can be used to corrupt government and grow it. growth in government is always a direct result of officials being corrupt and capitalists trying to lobby power to skew the markets.

the only dumbfuck here is pretty much you. especialy since you seem to be a fan of collectivist ideologies like social nationalism which is not different from soviet socialism.

Capitalism isn't just a way to distribute resources, it's also cultural.

Capitalism domination implies a number of factors completely unrelated to making money.

Government is a function for regulation of human nature.

Government mismanagement and weakness/corruption is as much to blame. Given that most of problems with soviet russia was Centralized economy controlled very strictly and forcefully by corrupt and inefficient regime which mostly stole products offering zero compensation it's no fucking wonder it all fell apart.

You seem to still be operating under the assumption I am supporting communism and I'm not.

Ikr, nature would have killed them, starved them to death etc so quickly. Why do we tolerate weak members of our species existing?

anybody that advocates for no personal property rights and freedoms is blind or retarded.

hitler was a very charismatic leader but natsoc is retarded by the getgo

>What is required is the creation of public works projects wherever there is significant amounts of homelessness that pay minimum amounts and will take on literally anyone whether they have criminal record/felony/drug habits.

You mean gulags... You might not think you do, but you actually do.

>There should never be people starving.

There isn´t anyone starving in the west, and as the other user said: We can't be responsible for Africa, can we?

>Coal mining and shit pays fuckloads.

AHAHHAHAHA, your idea to save capitalism is literally sending people into the coal mines? Thatcher'd like word...

>Civil war now. Founding fathers foresaw that in order to keep government in check revolution against the ever growing waste and corruption and inefficiency of government must be completely culled and replaced in order to set things right.

So let me get this straight: You're against ever growing waste, corruption and inefficiency, and you want to combat this by putting the government in charge of giving everyone a house, a job and food?

Wew, lad.. Wew.

Recognizing the inevitability of the social pyramid is the first step towards sanity

No you retard, that's a simple oligarchy. The failure of the people of allowing a governing body to strip them of power by trading it for 'safety' measures has never been to help society but to position them to a dependence AKA a pseudo-feudalistic system. "Well loan you x in exchange your family land as collateral by the way the interest is compounding." Welcome to the concepts of looking out for number 1, no company is looking out for you or yours, just what they stand to gain from you, weather it be your labors or your capital/resources they are always intending to undercut you.

>Jayant Bhandari says Africa is doomed unless White people or the Chinese take it over.

Sorry, this is the right video.

youtu.be/tdw1jmb3Ri0

>direct result of officials being corrupt and capitalists trying to lobby power to skew the markets.
They worked hard and have the right to.

>National Socialism.
Nice meme.
>That did work.
Nah.
>While the (((Western world))) crashed '30s Germany was literally a workers paradise.
Yeah it was great. Absolutely swell.. Nice of them to start spreading that wealth involuntary to countries like my own as well at the end of the 30s, right? Right.
>National Socialism = Aryan Socialism. The only socialism that works.
>Heil Hitler!

Meme flag pls. You sound like a meme-Yank.

>plz share.

> muh private property!
> muh collectivism is evil!

Lol

Again, no critical appraisal or intrinsic reason why National Socialism is a failure, just self-righteous butthurt.

and ignoring the fact that capitalism cannot function without big government.

Just another pseudo-intellectual randian retard.

Nobody is forced to live on the street the homeless that do have the option to stay in a shelter but would rather do drugs 99% of the time
t.PADS volunteer

>capitalism cannot function without big government
Explain yourself.

IF IT'S NOT BLACK ITS WHITE HURR MURICA.

Well then u myopic faggots should have gotten on board with the anti - Bolshevism crusade.

If it weren't for Hitler (PBUH) ur slut women wpuld have been brutally gang raped by Mongol savages and u cuck wpuld be working ur fingers to the bone in stalin's gulags.

Ur welcome faggots and Allah Akbar!

So why don't you build the magical fairy fucking resource allotter that makes sure everyone does his part and gets exactly as much as they need in return.
O wait the Commies tried that and it sucked balls.

Ever notice how commies only want to use your money and not theirs? They still want their trust fund nest egg while we get 3 loafs of stale bread and some dirty water for the week.

Then why don't poor people just live together in communes and thrive?

I already have. Check above.

>You mean gulags... You might not think you do, but you actually do.

I literally don't. You're misconstruing what I'm saying in every facet. Public works are nothing new you shitstain. They can work or they can not work. No one is rounding people up into death/work camps.

>There isn´t anyone starving in the west, and as the other user said: We can't be responsible for Africa, can we?

Here is where I know you're not reading. I also said africa can starve to death if it wants, US and other countries have no obligation to them.

>AHAHHAHAHA, your idea to save capitalism is literally sending people into the coal mines? Thatcher'd like word...

All kinds of resource extraction pay well, I didn't say "only coal mines lmao"

People do the work anyways and have fuckloads of money. I know a guy who worked on oil rigs literally living in a hobo tent near his work that in 2 years made 300k+.

Shit pay good in 1st world country at least.

>So let me get this straight: You're against ever growing waste, corruption and inefficiency, and you want to combat this by putting the government in charge of giving everyone a house, a job and food?

>Want to refresh leadership of government so that corruption and waste is kept in check

>Must want more corrupt government

Government is not inherently corrupt or inefficient. The people in it are the ones corrupt and need culling on occassion to keep things running properly.

The most absurd part of this statement is that this idiot thinks poor people are being forced to be poor under capitalism. They may have a harder road to hoe than someone born with money, but they can create their own opportunities just as the rich can easily create their own demise. If you really want to benefit the poor, aim to remove forced government hierarchies that allow the rich to remain entrenched. But then you couldn't larp as a communist.

Get a job. Ha, no one is hiring and by the time I hear a position is open it's been filled by the time I get there to speak with the manager.

The state as the answer? When has that ever worked for the poor man?

>Le 1 post by this ID

He's right. Cuckpitalists think it's completely normal that foreign companies exploit our natural ressoirces when a public company could do the job and the revenue go into healthcare and education instead of lining the pockets of obscenely rich kikes. But no, MUH EFFICIENCY.

Neoliberals and libertardians will hand together with communists on the DOTR.

actualy the people who were working some of the most fertile lands (example ukraine) were systematically starved to death. > see kulak genocide. it is one of the biggest government made famines ever. only the chinese were even more retarded with their 4 pests program that wiped out more.

You didn't, you described what happens when a large government allows for corporations to live instead of collapsing and allowing smaller companies to take shares of the market.