>A fatal security flaw has been exposed in Intel processors >Intel took shortcuts and sacrificed security for speed for decades >Windows/Mac/Linux will soon roll out updates that will fix the security flaw, but will impact performance by upwards of 30% >Intel's CEO has sold a massive chunk of his private stock in preparation for the assfucking Intel will receive when this situation becomes known to the mainstream
IF YOU HAVE AN INTEL BRAND CPU IN YOUR COMPUTER, YOU ARE AFFECTED. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW OLD.
>intel wanted to have a monopoly >they make their chips fast AF, nobody can figure out how >nobody knew they were purposefully making insecure products that went faster >amd played by the rules and still managed to compete with intel for all these years >now intel has been found out, they are in full damage control >ceo has sold off $11 million worth of his PERSONAL stock (not options), and only has the bare minimum required to stay CEO
Jason Bell
holy shit
good think i switched to amd when the rolled out the new ryzen series of processors.
ryzen 5 is better than i5 (before path holy shit) and atleast 60-80 cheaper
Evan Reyes
Source?
Wyatt Phillips
He sold the stocks on November 29 and this shit was apparently known since November 14. Watch him NOT get arrested for insider trading because he's one of ((((them))).
Isaiah Bell
>intel wanted to have a monopoly >they make their chips fast AF, nobody can figure out how >nobody knew they were purposefully making insecure products that went faster
Hmmmm Wonder how many suicides shall become of this?
Ryan Sullivan
>unironically believing AMD isn't also compromised wew
Well Sup Forums, whats the most secure computer setup?
Brayden Ross
Its scummy, but even public ms updates have had the fix since november, sooo
Tyler Smith
Red flag only.
Justin Davis
>mfw I've had AMD for over ten years
Thomas Jenkins
Ti 84
Ayden James
AMD master race. Also, just remembered I built a pc for my EX with an I7 in it that she insisted in having because it was a better brand. Karma is a bitch roastie! I wasn’t good enough, AMD wasn’t good enough, BTFO!
Caleb Jackson
Welp, Emulation just slid back 10 years
Ethan Cook
Not for speed you fucking moron. User space applications have no business prefetching data from the kernel side of the pagetable. Preventing this comes at no cost of performance at all if you fix the prefetcher in hardware. The performance hit is due to the workaround creating two separate pagetables for kernel and userspace and the CPU having to rewrite them with every context switch.
Of a the shit Intel pulled, this wasn't intentional. It will cost them billions of their precious shekels.
Julian Torres
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Eli Morris
Hopefully the christcuck goyim forget about all this. Think of all those h1bs they probably brought here
Nicholas Foster
>January 2017 >was gonna buy AMD >Settle for i7-7700k because it was on sale >mfw
Julian Gonzalez
Good thing I picked a Ryzen 5 1600, intel boards and processors were fucking overpriced compared to it anyway in similar performance ranges
Julian Ortiz
Redpill me on tails OS and Arduino Sup Forums
Ian Edwards
So basically Intel performance is on par with AMD now?
Ian Cook
Same, the thing came more powerful than I thought. It's a bargain.
Josiah Jackson
Fuck should I buy AMD stock?
Asher Bell
You bought a housefire
Carson Edwards
Any idea on who discovered the flaw?
Angel Lopez
basically thats exactly what's going to happen
Inb4 Nvidia has also been employing the same shit tactics
Nicholas Phillips
Oy vey
The goyim know
Shut down the pc
Benjamin Morales
I worked for Intel, terrible environment, the epicenter of SJW culture in the corporate world, not surprised in the least.
Hudson Gomez
yes
Intel is about to enter Seagate 2009 territory, AMD being WD about to Rise like a phoenix
Ethan Ross
We'll find out after the embargo is lifted
Aaron Martin
This has been known for 10 years. By that I mean we all knew it but it wasn't official like it is now. It was designed that way to provide a back door for the government and so your encrypted files can easily be broken. Ya'all haven't been paying attention.
Michael Young
>AMD claims they are unaffected >VMs running on AMD hardware are pwned by this exploit >suddenly AMD has cloud and hosting providers up their ass and they're being sued for $9001 gorillion dollars Yeah, nah.
Jonathan Cooper
What if I don't install the patch that slows my computer down? Will I get hacked?
Explain this to me like I still rent video tapes from Blockbuster.
Logan Collins
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Daniel Gomez
Good thing I upgraded from Intel into AMD years ago. Also, INVEST INTO INTEL NOW!!!!
Daniel Lee
>November 2016 >Got i7600k
Boy.
Colton Hill
S E E T H I N G
Hunter Davis
Redpill me on tails OS and Arduino Sup Forums
Or should I go Pentium?
What's the most secure shitposting machine?
>he thinks he's secure on Ryzen
Jaxson Lewis
I did, this morning. The real volatility will hit when the embargo is lifted, somebody makes a fancy webpage about it (like they did for KRACK), and every CTO in the world sees it.
Aaron Cox
Cell Processor masterrace
Easton Young
And this is why you dont trust Jews. You all deserve this.
Joseph Ross
I have to believe it's about speed, because I can't think of any other good reason to leave this check out, and I have to think someone would have caught this since it seems to affect architectures as far back as the Pentium Pro.
Samuel Wright
Bullshit. This is the psyop to agreeing to the back door.
Austin Martinez
arm64 might have a real chance at pushing into the laptop market after this. risc is always preferable to cisc architectures. simplicity is the mother of security when it comes to computers.
Juan Baker
quick let's ask Sup Forums and /diy/ to get together and make the next gen CPU
it will be some 1 core travesty that can only run a browser and old school runescape
Austin Ward
"They (Intel) have insurance plans in place to handle these issues and although general operating practice is to wait for a class action suit and settle it in a fashion that pays a lawyer $100 million and gives $5 coupons to anyone who fills out a 30 page form, Amazon, Google and Microsoft have deals in place with Intel which say “Treat us nice or we’ll build our next batch of servers on AMD or Qualcomm."
>This has been known for 10 years. By that I mean we all knew it but it wasn't official like it is now. It was designed that way to provide a back door for the government and so your encrypted files can easily be broken.
this
lol
Kayden Nguyen
good question.propbably a good idea
Jace Evans
>Intel's CEO has sold a massive chunk of his private stock Sounds illegal desu, insider information and all that.
Levi Allen
For real? If that's the case can the NSA/CIA be named in a class-action lawsuit?
(not really srs)
Jayden Martin
TOPKEK
They all laughed when I went AMD
Oliver Rodriguez
Nope, AMD is ahead in the Server market. Intel was always going to be destroyed by AMD infinity Fabric.
I bought it for the performance to price ratio, also because AM4 motherboards are a shit ton cheaper. If Intel is compromised and they're going to have to cut back performance with a firmware update, then there'd be no reason to buy an intel especially now but also in hindsight
William Walker
The normies don't know this yet, you faggy brainlet.
The clock is counting down. It can't be covered up for much longer.
Matthew Jackson
I made an 80 Mhz, 1 IPC, RISC cpu in college
Does that count?
Liam Rivera
how exactly does it affects me and why should I care fucking tinfoil hat autists
Jacob Johnson
EVERYONE TO THE MEME BATTLE STATIONS
Charles Stewart
-30% perfomance
Lincoln Thomas
Been using Interl for 10+ years and everything was fine. But now I'm supposed to be mad or scared? Lmao, AMDcucks are going to be on suicide watch once again when this shit turns out to be nothing.
Christopher Thompson
>mfw core 2 duo bye bye . Maybe it's time to upgrade my hardware.
Andrew Thompson
why is their stock unaffected?
Aiden Hill
kek, if Sup Forums is involved it will be an underage anime figure that you put on a shelf and jack off to. Sup Forums doesn't know shit about technology, sadly. it's the most useless board on 4chins unless you're looking for pictures of a weeb's new led lined mousepad or some other gay jew shit.
Ryder James
Israel is the most successful Intel chip designer >It's just cheap sand nigger manufacturing factories, USA is the real mastermind here Intel chips go bad due to design flaws >Jews are responsible
BTFO T F O
James Murphy
Are you retarded?
Logan Foster
Intel bulldozer is the only AMD hardware that doesn’t have hardware level backdoors. The NSA and 1996 telecom communications act fored these companies to put backdoors into their products. Intel creates puesdo random encryption curves so all encryption can be broken easy af same with AMD.
The fix is to separate the kernel's memory completely from user processes using what's called Kernel Page Table Isolation, or KPTI. At one point, Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines, aka FUCKWIT, was mulled by the Linux kernel team, giving you an idea of how annoying this has been for the developers.
William Lee
>have AMD >always used AMD Get fucked
James Scott
>tfw AMD since my first build
Tyler Price
>tfw i just built a new PC in October with Intel/Nvidia I'm going to suicide bomb Intel and Nvidia if they fuck me too
James Gutierrez
For the average consumer, probably. But then again, probably not. The performance hit comes from a process switching contexts, basically when a program has to run a syscall, which happens a fucking lot with I/O such as disk access, networking, sending data to/from the GPU, etc. Gaming will likely take a major hit, and so will disk or network heavy activity, and for servers, virtualization, database operations, all kinds of shit will take a real performance hit, somewhere in the 30% range. Let's put it this way, AMD's 16-core Threadripper is only behind Intel's 18-core Core i9 by an average of about 15% performance across the board. Same for the 8700k vs. the 1800X, and AMD's EPYC processors outright beat Intel processors in workloads they're suited for, which is most of them since servers tend to like more cores. This is going to take Intel back to Sandy Bridge levels of performance, maybe further.
Jose Nelson
Who gives a fuck. If someone wants to hack into my computer and steal my oh so precious files lol.
Do you morons actually have files you consider super important? If you do are they not backed up on DVD or something? The fuck is wrong with you?
What are you doing that your so afraid of a hacker being able to get in?
It's not like a car jacking where there is a chance of injury. It's some day with another computer fucking with yours.
Like just pull the plug dumbass lol.
>oh noes they got muh files!!!
Lol. Ur gay
Connor Clark
Ryzen and Threadripper are the way to go
Joshua Russell
does this affect intel centrino
Brayden Barnes
It's not a simple check. Prefetching in modern processors is incredibly complex and the guesses as to what's actually happening are rough at best. They overlooked some odd condition. That it took years to discover it isn't surprising. There are most likely a few more flaws of this magnitude around that just haven't been discovered yet.
Again, the kernel side of the page table is irrelevant for user space applications. Allowing a user space application to prefetch from there does nothing to increase performance. The "check" you think of is nothing more than blocking an intersection that your route doesn't require, it makes no difference for the endresult.
Nathan Foster
Advanced Meme Distributors
Dylan Johnson
Fuck yeah! So glad I built with AMD. Sucks for those who have bought overpriced junk.
Ryan Barnes
CNN HASNT REPORTED IT YET
John Thompson
bruh what are you smoking
You don't even have to use the hardware RNG in your encryption algorithm, and Bulldozer wasn't even being developed in 1996.
Aiden Cook
If you use Windows or Mac OS, make sure to apply your security updates when they arrive. Unless your computer use involves consistently stressing your CPU, you won't notice much.
This is a big deal because CPU power = pure revenue for large enterprise (((cloud computing))) providers like Amazon, Microsoft, and Google. They WILL throw a fit because it has a massive impact on their finances.
I mean, who would continue to pay $X a month for a VPS that is only 70% as powerful as it was last month? I bet their PR teams are in overdrive right now
Lincoln Hall
>access to personal identity and bank accounts
Luis Stewart
Go play candy crush you fucking normie pleb
Chase Morgan
Oh fuck how will the largest microchip manufacturer in history recover from this minor setback?
They're up 7% today and this news is just barely making it into Twitter and Y Combinator.
Christopher Bell
Stay mad, intelboi
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Henry Martin
This is so fresh that the mainstream outlets haven't caught wind of it yet. Your average investor will probably find out in the morning.
Colton Perry
>What if I don't install the patch that slows my computer down? >Will I get hacked? >Explain this to me like I still rent video tapes from Blockbuster.
you are only at risk if you keep your fax machine online
Jordan Collins
market is closed you fucking moron. Check back at 930am EST
Isaiah Rivera
fug I just got an i7 7700K how fucked am I? I refuse to update win 10
Brandon Jenkins
get a job cunt
James Mitchell
The market hasn’t opened yet
Hudson Evans
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William Hill
False. This vulnerability alone, while serious, doesn't actually do a whole lot in terms of security. You still require some other exploit to actually do anything with the kernel memory addresses once you get them.