Give me your best arguments against Atheism and prepare to be debunked

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if im wrong
nothing happens
if you're wrong
you're literally in hell

are you sure?

its impossible to know everything
everyone except agnostics think they do though

>pascals wager meme

>if im wrong
>nothing happens
>if you're wrong
>you're literally in hel
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reality is an infinite feedback loop. the dominant consciousness has existed forever and has long since made itself the beginning- and thus thought up all reality.

>WHAT IF YOUR WRONG TOOO???
Well i have a higher chance of getting in nigger
lets say there is 2000 religions out there. And i believe in 1.

so that is 1/2000 That dose not look good. BUTTT
you have a fucking 0% chance of OF GOING TO HEAVEN/ whatever. while at least i have a chance

doesn't work well, though. I can think of an arbitrarily large number of religions punishing unbelievers for all eternity after their deaths. Each of those Religions could be "true" - that means, even if i believed in the christian god, there would still be chance of _another_ religion being "true", which means eternal damnation anyway. It's not even as if you could say "oh well, but at least i still have a higher chance than atheists not to land in hell" - because i can simply invent a religion which punishes believer of Christianity with it's own equivalent of hell.

MUH FEELS are the only argument I need.

1. all physical entities have certain attributes in accordance with the observabale laws of physics
2. one such attribute is a beginning and end (a point at which a being is created/destroyed): all physical entities have beginings and ends
3. the universe is a collection of all beings: it is a meta-being
4. this meta being could not have created itself (if it could have it would have existed before it existed) therefore something outside of "the universe" (all being) created the universe
5. therefore, some non-being (no beginning no end) is responsible for the creation of our universe this is what we call "god" for shorthand

>Israel exists
>Hebrew language restored
>Christian morality evaporated
>Christian religion apostatized and disbelieved
>Europe federalizing
>Russia aligned with Iran
>Map of the Middle-East looks more like it did in ancient times then it has for the last 2000 years.
>user doesn't realize the Apocalypse is at hand.

“Remember this, and show yourselves men;
Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
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Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
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Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’
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Calling a bird of prey from the east,
The man who executes My counsel, from a far country.
Indeed I have spoken it;
I will also bring it to pass.
I have purposed it;
I will also do it.

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“Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted,
Who are far from righteousness:
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I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off;
My salvation shall not linger.
And I will place salvation in Zion,
For Israel My glory.

then do it. You might be right

you can't prove atheism anymore than theism

agnostic master race

holy shit im not worthy

Why can't people realize that being agnostic has nothing to do with belief, but rather knowledge. Even agnostics are either atheists, theists or deists. Claiming to be agnostic does not answer the question of what one believes.

t. Atheist, also agnostic.

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> Anonymous (ID: 6vBVxgkD) 01/03/18(Wed)23:08:42 No.155483125▶
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>reality is an infinite feedback loop. the dominant consciousness has existed forever and has long since made itself the beginning- and thus thought up all reality.
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> Anonymous (ID: ujZWiio0) 01/03/18(Wed)23:09:09 No.155483164▶
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>>WHAT IF YOUR WRONG TOOO???
>Well i have a higher chance of getting in nigger
>lets say there is 2000 religions out there. And i believe in 1.
>so that is 1/2000 That dose not look good. BUTTT
>you have a fucking 0% chance of OF GOING TO HEAVEN/ whatever. while at least i have a chance
something cannot come from nothing.

>Doesn't know the difference between belief and knowledge

I have no idea, Sup Forums seems to have Christian radicals which are indifferent from the supposed radical Muslims.

I haven't been here for a long time, but the delusions of religious people make me want to puke.

How can you consider yourself redpilled, when you ignore the truth? Religion has no basis in society and is a waste of resources. Grow up. Your fairy tales aren't real, space wzards aren't real, your delusional are real.

atheism is an anti-theism religion
religion just like all religions
atheism same problems as Christianity because both are religions

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What about kek? He only lets atheists in.

belief is meaningless
i believe i left my keys right here, but i dont see them

>your delusional are real.

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Sage

It means there is no objective good and thus nothing matters except hedonism.

if you truly believed they would have been right there

Rene Descartes, read up on him.

Simplified to if you are too lazy to read. When you enter the realm of philosophy you can't definitively prove anything.

hypnotize me into believing i'm rich please, cuz i dont want to go to work tonight

God is real. I don’t have to prove to you what you already know to be true in your heart.

>user doesn't realize the Apocalypse is at hand.

You cucks have been going on about this for 2000 years now. But I am ready for the fimbulvinter.

>agnostic is in between atheist and theist

you are wasting your breath here, I'm afraid. Let them larp as Christians, it's not liek they are following the faith anyway. They are cultural Christians because ethno-nationalism and Christianity are antithetical.

Sure you can believe in that. But now your actively STILL fucking your chances b/c you said KEK ONLY lets atheists in.

Atheists need pharmaceuticals to drop the weight of supposed sins that the shield of religion usually removes. Its really all in the mind of the individual though. Oh, and certain couplings help.

atheism provides no structure, no community, no binding thread to connect people. with nothing to ground people, people will find themselves reveling in degenerate actions as a supplement for the missing aspect of community and spirituality (eg. look at sjw's progressives, communists and antifa). spirituality is innately a human thing, and atheism is the denial of that, denying an aspect of humanity forces people to seek alternatives, and people will latch onto the first alternative they find.

>if im wrong
nothing happens
if you're wrong
you're literally in hell

Not true, if you're wrong you go into a deep depression.

Not true, freindo. Also, what religious people consider good is often regardless of what their religion teaches... Religions were created by people, as was every moral believe known to man. A person's moral compass comes from within and is in some ways an evolutionary trait. Working well in a tribe improves chances for survival, that requires some morality.

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step it up you godless heathen, i thought you were going to debunk us?

unfortunately, for every religion i could invent, there would be infinitely many others out there damning me for following it - so it wouldn't change anything. Might as well save on the effort.

No arguments in site.

You can't use religion as an excuse to kill people you don't like.

I'm technically an atheist one of the big arguments is morals

Most atheists ignore all the stories with religious background and those stories we hear as kids form our morals

I'd recommend atheists read all religious text and understand them from a metaphorical and literal standpoint
>but keep your atheism

it's the fantasies that people buy into.
Being full communist is just pure evil
People will then be lied instead

This also we know an idea's value by it's fruit, and Christianity had produced great fruit it's just a shame it's been so subverted by degenerates and left to the wayside by a lot of good people

People can believe whatever they want.

>dreaming......a spear-chucker woman literally teleports behind me
>uses a knife to end me
>wtf?

The choice to be an Atheist was given to you by God, who am I to dictate what you are to believe.

Almost everyone uses religion as a way to get ahead and form social groups and rarely believes in or even fully reads the texts (because that isn't important)
Atheists are the ones being conned. The others are simply living in a farce, but so what.

Jonathan Brandis

Free will is a complete joke. You are made up of very tiny atoms and the actions of these atoms are determined by the orbit of its electrons. If you were to somehow observe the pathways of every last electron, you would be 100% able to predict the future.

He..Has....Risen.

>no arguments in site
>flag is fucking anarchism
you just proved his point

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>sight

Implying?

If you believe something hard enough it is true.

If you need a book written by some kikes thousands of years ago to dictate your morals and ensure you live a life of upright conduct, you are pathetic and should consider suicide.

>being a whiny bitch and throwing your beliefs, or lack thereof, in other people's faces when literally no one gives a fuck what you think.
Gnostic Atheism is as retarded as Gnostic Theism; both are 100% unable to admit they might be wrong. You can't disprove the existence of a "god" any more than I can prove the existence of a "god". It's literally unknowable.

Jews get best food in prison

All the niggaz be converting

i aint christian, im Buddhist. what i said was not meant be specific to Christianity, but it is meant to be about ALL religion. religion provides an aspect of community to daily life, and atheism does not. without that community, there is nothing to hold you back from becoming just as degenerate as antifa. spirituality is also an aspect of community, one that ties a community closer together than anything else. atheism has nothing to address this. thats all i said you fucking mong.

welcome to 2008 where the point dont matter and drew carey is still fat.

>thinks Buddhism is a religion
Give me one bit of Buddhist philosophy that wasn't influenced by Hinduism and call it nonsecular.

>nothing to hold you back from becoming a degenerate
I have morals and dignity, which keeps me from even thinking about becoming a degenerate.

Go visit a theocracy

Fedoras worship materialism. They worship the physical reality.

Ironically, fedoras don't breed. Breeding is the only way anyone really stays alive on this planet for longer than a single lifetime, and fedoras don't participate.

Fedoras are cucks. Christianity is true.

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I don't engage with fedora tippers.

Humans will argue this until we are extinct.
More importantly whats that website with the FREE full hd porn videos? I know one of you autists know it, pls

>all manifestations in the physical world are solely due to multiple iterative permutations occurring ad infinitum and not on account of an ordered, directed and well defined sequence.
>causation of the origins is merely chance. this universe is borne out of initial and/or (more importantly) boundary conditions. you must therefore fully engage in hedonism, anarchism and subversion.

i am convinced all manner of atheistic philosophies are derived out of a need to disenfranchise all individual aspirations in a population; and to then direct this rudderless mass of humanity in whatever direction ((they)) please

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This creation event wasn't well supported by evidence until the mid-twentieth century. Until then it was the majority opinions by atheists that the universe had no beginning or end, was infinite, and any notion of a creation event was a purely religious idea.

Then of course atheists got btfo by science supporting the big bang theory... In only a few short years these kikes had twisted this as their science religion creation story

Isn't it weird that most atheists ITT don't know the very recent history of their own religion?

It's better to believe it something that promotes self-respect and encourages s a fulfilling non-degenerate lifestyle that may not be real rather than something that provides no solid moral principles for society as a whole.

>*.....this universe is NOT borne out of initial and/or (more importantly) boundary conditions.....

Its not about whether or not you are right, that is irrelevant. What matters is what the other 99% of the world believes in. Having religion for all of these people guides them in a direction of stability and tradition(aka ehat has worked for thousands of years), while atheism (as much as it is rational and logical) is dangerous in the hands of stupid people (aka the 99%). So stop trying to prove or disprove religion, it is a tool and should be treated as such

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Aka what*
Fucking phoneposting

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Thanks anyway man

Impiousness is weakness.
Buddhism isn't a religion. Are you atheist?

probably, but that's still a weak argument

I am an Atheist and I don't see a point in these threads.

Illogical, agnosticism is the logical endpoint of basong your world entirely ipon empirical fact. Also, usually hypocritical, considering athiests believe in rights and believe that they can develop morals, both of which are do not exist.

>Isn't it weird that most atheists ITT don't know the very recent history of their own religion?
That surprises you?

The paradox of atheism is that the atheist, while usually committed to living a life consistent with reality, cannot bear reality as he believes it actually is.
So while the atheist can only preserve his emotional stability by either hiding from reality as he believes it actually is or by hardening himself to it, the man of faith gains emotional stability, empathy and hope as he exposes himself to and embraces reality as he believes it actually is.
Would reflection on the ultimate meaninglessness, transience, and unimportance of your moral actions in a godless universe make you more likely to resist temptation? I think the answer is obviously no.
So in what an Atheist find hope if not in their self centered empty void world.

Given how quantum physics are now being called upon to explain the workings of the brain, one can doubt that.

>give me le arguement i shall debunk it you stoopid
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My numbers say otherwise

Causal reality in an acausal universe.

You can easily deduce that consciousness is an illusion and the product of chemical reactions in your brain unless you ignore the fact that you're made up of atoms, like I've said previously, memeflag.

If you are wrong you can still end up suffering.

Of course God doesn't exist. Only stupid people believe that.

It's possible that a higher power exists, but just listen to what Christians say about their God. They think that God is personally involved in everyone's lives and cares about us all. Where's the proof for that?

Christianity is extremely egocentric. It's shit to make human beings feel important. That's why they got mad when Galileo said the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe.

Needless hedonism only creates suffering and unsatisfactory sentiments. There's a Buddha in this thread that can explain that to you.

>...prepare to be debunked

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If you exist, then you created everything that exists and have existed and will exist forever and are god

If that is not true, then something made you and it has those properties, and if not, then the cycle continues.

Existence = god.

However, don't assume that it's the Christian god. It is most likely either going to be you, or an unfathomable eldritch horror that does not relate to you at all.

Why no agnostic option. That's what most really are I recon

t. Lovecraft

do you believe in kryptonite in the off chance superman exists and wants to kill you?

what if god actually likes people who think for themselves and youre fucked?

so youre on the same intellectual level as feminists and sjws

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