Give me your best climate change redpills

Give me your best climate change redpills

Besides the fact that it's -4 degrees outside

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thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/12288-study-shows-global-warming-data-skewed-by-bad-monitoring
dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
lidblog.com/judge-orders-white-house-to-stop-hiding-its-bogus-global-warming-proof/
edberry.com/blog/climate/climate-physics/agw-hypothesis/new-study-sun-not-co2-causes-climate-change/
youtu.be/j0SX06A5np8
science.sciencemag.org/content/299/5613/1728
newscientist.com/article/dn11659-climate-myths-ice-cores-show-co2-increases-lag-behind-temperature-rises-disproving-the-link-to-global-warming/
youtu.be/ZDK1aCqqZkQ
youtube.com/user/potholer54/videos
harddawn.com/8-ways-radical-liberalism-is-causing-americas-farmland-drought-crisis/
nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth/
xkcd.com/1732/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/12288-study-shows-global-warming-data-skewed-by-bad-monitoring

In the winter, it gets cold. Sometimes it gets really cold.

>record breaking temperature extremes at both ends of the scale during summer and winter alike
>this means climate change isn't happening

Greenhouse gasses cause temperature fluctuations to swing to extremes. Winters will get colder summers will get hotter.

>sometimes winter doesn't mean it is cold?

That famous picture of the starved polar bear was a setup. I work with large carnivores and know one of the biologists. That bear was almost 30 years old or something, and it's teeth had been gone for months. Climate change had nothing to do with it. In fact there's more bears now.

The icecaps are melting

Climate change deniers don't tell you that

Climate does not equal current weather, but whatever.
We are putting in carbon dioxide into the atmosphere which increases average global temp, we are the highest ever recorded right now at about .6 of a degree hotter then average. Doesn’t seem like it’s a big deal, but one more degree and New York, Orleans, Miami, San Francisco, all completely or partly underwater.

(X) doubt

No, it's more like this:

1970s: greenhouse gasses will cause global cooling by blocking solar radiation

1990s/2000s: greenhouse gasses will cause global warming by trapping heat in the atmosphere


Now: greenhouse gasses "cause temperature fluctuations to swing to extremes"


Unfortunately, the volatility is not actually increasing and there are not recently more extreme weather events than in the past.

>not posting the image
what a massive faggot

Climate change entirely hinges on the assertion that there is a current "alarming pace" of increasing temperatures.
But they don't have shit for comparison: there's no systematic and/or reliable temperature calculations from before the 20th century. So they use temperature "proxies" like tree rings, ocean sediment, and ice cores. These are temperature estimates which are then doctored by temperature recreation models to show favorable outcomes so they will get approved for the next grant. Climatologists admit that these data points can't be used to establish a "temperature resolution" AT BEST isn't any better than 220 year spans. 220 years ago was 1798, before we even recorded temperatures properly. You can't compare a 10,000 year time span with poor temperature data resolution to a 100 year time Syrian with good resolution and then proclaim that the world is ending. It's intellectual dishonesty.
It's worth continued study, but that's it. Absolutely no public policy should be implemented.

>Syrian=span

No. We accept that they are melting....
Nor do we actually tonight that the climate is changing.

The difference is we realize it is meaningless on a geological time scale, while you faggots ejaculate over doom-porn.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

lidblog.com/judge-orders-white-house-to-stop-hiding-its-bogus-global-warming-proof/

edberry.com/blog/climate/climate-physics/agw-hypothesis/new-study-sun-not-co2-causes-climate-change/

>"Red pill me on X"

Read the sticky, idiot.

Why not bring in policy, it’s only beneficial with regards to climate change.

It hasn't yet dropped below 15 this winter :^)

because public policy has an economic opportunity cost, and the imminent danger of climate change is a meme, as per my previous post.
if you could provide an example that is economically beneficial and also reduces carbon dioxide emissions, then of course that'd be the best of both worlds

>my best climate change redpill

cry more

From your teardrops?

>Lefty scientists would never exaggerate for more funding and political power
I don't think you understand how bad it is. My colleagues were literally weeping on election day. Everything is justified to them. We know normies don't into science, but dead bears are sad.

Explain then why carbon dioxide levels lag temperature by 800 years?

volcanic activity

>but dead bears are sad.

Something that can't eat me anymore + a free new rug? Why would this be sad?

Sign me up for another 2° then

Oooo this ones easy
They don’t
Can I get some sauce please

That exists and is called nuclear, or funding fusion research properly, but the environmentalists cry foul every time you bring it up. Environmentalists are watermelons - green on the outside, Communist red on the inside.

Leftist cunts: "Weather doesn't mean climate unless we say it does."

>Little Ice Age
>Vostok

Climate is cyclical (climate oscillation) Warming isn't happening because of humans it's happening because of plate tectonics and the release of trapped gas from subduction zones.

Did you know that the 10 biggest shipping tankers produce more Co2 than every car on earth combined?

Did you know that every man, woman, child and everything man has created on earth could fit into an area the size of the state of Texas?

Did you know that climate science is just another way to control the citizenry thru fear while siphoning tax dollars to those in charge?

War, Nuclear War, Global Warming, Terrorism, ISIS etc. It's all in the Protocols faggot. Have a listen youtu.be/j0SX06A5np8

Weather never means climate.

Imagine I look at all the grades you’ve ever gotten in your life
I average them all up and you are at a 85% B
Now, I find a 46% F

If I went around spewing “look how dumb this guy is he got an 46%”

That wouldn’t be accurate representation especially cause you must’ve gotten really good scores other days to counter act that 46%

Climate change is good
>ice caps melt
>dry desert lakes fill up with water
>sea levels don’t rise, that’s a meme
>dead deserts finally get vegatation for the first time in 1000s of years
>antártica gets vegetation as well
>trees grow everywhere
>less greenhouse gasses
>less pollution
>new land grab and population spreads out to previously uninhabitable areas

I love global warming . It is the solution to all of the worlds problems

Everyone shilling to stop it either wants
>more money
>or population control

see
graphs from Vostok ice cores

Also, see
science.sciencemag.org/content/299/5613/1728
and for more information
newscientist.com/article/dn11659-climate-myths-ice-cores-show-co2-increases-lag-behind-temperature-rises-disproving-the-link-to-global-warming/

Or just keep blindly following your religion

This is what happens when the public school system fails

desu is absolutely correct it is good. There used to be vineyards in the north of England during the medieval warming. More people die from the cold than they do the heat.

Explain. When I was in public high school they taught us that greenhouse gases trap heat in the atmosphere. Why would that make winters colder? Are there any expert climate scientists you can direct me to who explain how co2 actually makes it colder but only in the winter?

Daily reminder that there is no such thing as a "Climate Scientist"
Anyone who says they are one should immediately be disregarded as a liar and anything that references a "Climate Scientist"

(((Their))) Logic doesn’t make sense . Global warming is a good thing

>global warming would be good

Not only would this happen, but thousands of not as tolerant species would die

Congratulations, you are smarter then the majority of people.

I watched this last night, was pretty good
Surprising for Stephen Crowder to have real scientists on and his jokes are cringe but it's worth watching

youtu.be/ZDK1aCqqZkQ

>Muh ice cores prove GLOBAL temperatures 5,000 years ago to within tenths of a degree and are just as legit as data collected in the last 50 years with satellites

>Muh antarctic ice cores prove what temperatures were in the middle of the tropical and pacific and jungles of africa and deserts.

You do realize that the volume of ice available on earth does not melt enough to cause sea levels to rise more then a few inches at most. The only way they would rise as much as in your pic, is if over the half the planet was entirely blanketed in ice.

nigger faggot

Every single thread, same retards post the same images and shitty infographics with cherrypicked figures, blatantly false and misleading statements, and other falsehoods that have been refuted time and time again, yet it doesn't matter to these people. They will continue to spread falsehoods, continue to blatantly lie with their misleading charts, because you are dishonest as fuck and consumed by cognitive biases. But go on, keep posting all the same shit that's been debunked more times than I can count.

Here's a few examples of what I'm talking about:
I'm not going to bother going into detail about why this shit is blatantly false yet again, I've done it far too many times to count on this board and elsewhere and it's just past 2am where I live. Suffice to say, if you have no skepticism over the idiotic ramblings of climate change deniers, it's time to be skeptical.

I never said shit about ice cores, I just said pulling an outlier to prove your point is fucking stupid. But yes go blab on about your stupid shit

nice picture. Didn't your prophet Al Gore say that the ice caps were going to be completely melted by 2014? Still waiting for these doomsday predictions to come to fruition.

Tell ya what, I am going to go turn my heat up by 5 degrees in my apartment. Not because I am cold but because you made me feel the need to pump just a little more CO2 into the atmosphere. I don't even mind I have to pay a little bit more.

Going to shill this channel here as well, this guy spends a lot of time debunking a lot of the common misconceptions / cherry picked arguments of climate change deniers, including retards (Patrick Moore) like this
youtube.com/user/potholer54/videos

Disprove them then or go the fuck to bed

Antarctica’s ice is over 2 km thick, plus glaciers plus the northern ice caps
Plenty of ice

harddawn.com/8-ways-radical-liberalism-is-causing-americas-farmland-drought-crisis/

The drought is caused by libs. That help?

Reeeee

>skewed date
>unreliable sources
>skewed simulations
>global warming
>global cooling
Yet it’s so curious that the solution to cooling, warming, and change is heavy taxation, regulations, and an expanded government.
There’s nothing wrong with caring about the environment and trying to maintain it, but the climate change cause is a scam through and through

The oldest human made tools found on North America are offshore Virginia and usually dredged up in 240 foot of water with mastadon bones.
The USA has been denying the 2012 Solutrean hypothesis since it shows a steady rising of the oceans for 24,000 years.

Public schooling failing anyone these days is probably a good thing

Ooo how could you, haha they aren’t doomsday pictures, it wouldn’t all melt at once, it would be a very slow flooding of the continents. Also I don’t have a prophet cause could you guess it, I’m atheist too, nevertheless we have rolled back on some carbon emissions, cars are more efficient, wind and solar have became more prominent,
I hope someday the world can be completely ran off renewable resources

You can't claim something is an "outlier" if the dataset you are claiming as the "norm" is bullshit extrapolated from some magical fucking arctic ice cubes that magically claim to speak to temps on the ENTIRE GLOBE 500-500,000 years ago.

Like one location in the arctic where ice formed thousands of years ago PROVES what temperatures were TO WITHIN TENTHS OF ONE DEGREE all over the world from african jungles to cuba to the sahara to the outback to mexico to the middle of the tropics all over the earths surface that is 70% water. H

Then these psuedo science faggots pretend that their magical arctic ice cube guesstimation fraud is the exact same data quality as current satellite data thats collecting data from thousands of locations around the globe every day currently.

Then they tell you about "trends" from thousands of years ago mixing fabricated claims with satellite data as though its all equally legit data.

Its literally like bible stories claims from the past being given equal credibility with something you can prove because you have video recording of the event.

total fraud

I'm still waiting for someone to post an actual scientific paper from a well-respected science journal. All I'm seeing are blogs and right-wing articles that quotemine and cherrypick papers that conclude climate change is real and a problem to make it seem like those papers didn't conclude climate change is real and a problem.

YOU FUCKING WALNUT
today in the north is a fucking outlier because it is negative 25
THAT DOES NOT PROVE CLIMATE CHANGE DOESNT EXIST

In the end, all you right wing fags, afraid of change in this world, it’s fucking happening, so just get your cousin fucking ass out

I am truly sorry senpai but Climate Change is a religion and Al Gore is its prophet.

You mean to tell me that the last 8 years of carbon reduction has reversed 100 years of heavy industrial carbon emissions enough to stave off the dire predictions of climate preachers.

It is just not logical.

Not true. Thats just regular weather.

My favorite “climate change argument”:

Today broke the record for heat! Climate change is real! It was a a record that stood since 1926!!!

Ok.

So what the FUCK was the cause for that insane heat in 19 fucking 26 you stupid motherfucker!!!!??

Guess what... it’s -4 outside. And at SOME FUCKING POINT, it’s been -4 in the same fucking place before.

Climate change is real. It’s called WEATHER

its changing, just not how you think it is

No you fucking dipshit, the burden of proof is on you to prove "global warming" even exists,

let alone is caused only by man (clearly its not), let alone is dangerous, let alone is something we shoudl spend trillions on

your magical arctic ice cube from 50,000 years ago doesnt "PROVE" what temperatures were at all over thousands of tropical locations on earth.

Have you even taken an upper level science course? Based on your shill salary I’m gonna say no.

I can’t stand it anymore, this online arguing is bullshit, I can’t tell weither it’s memeing or if our society has people that are truly this oblivious.

>being this cucked

>I'm not going to bother going into detail about why this shit is blatantly false yet again,
maybe you should make some pasta
until then, go to bed commie

They only let him spend his shillbux on ramen in the break room, not upper level science courses

Climate nuts >we know what the temperature all over earth was 5000 years ago

>we can’t accurately predict the temperature within 5 degrees a week out.

You can't stand it because you have no science to support your point. All you have is the talking points taken from the sermons your climate priests preach.

I don't know the science, but I know that things only get funded when they find results. If the researchers came out and said, "Yeah, it's not man made." They are suddenly out of their cushy government funded job. No rational person is going to cut their own job out from under themselves.

It's way colder dude

climate change is a real thing that happens on its own and has fuck all to do with us
1000 years from now, people will be bitching about it being too cold

This. this is why 90% of scientists state that manmade climate change exists. they don't get public funding otherwise.
what they don't tell you is that less than 2% of those same scientists venture to say that climate change is at least 50% manmade causes.

Alright, couple of final words

Something that pains me the most is that science is taken politically, science is observation, testing, repeating. It is inarguably the most definite thing we have. So when science is preformed successfully and people still doubt a truth. It is truly disheartening.

Climate change, weather, whatever. A couple things are undeniable.
>We are pumping CO2, methane, and water vapor into our atmosphere
>greenhouse gasses trap in more heat in a area the more they are present

Make your own conclusions from that. I don’t care if you are liberal or conservative and it really shouldn’t matter. Reality and real life isn’t partisan, or at least it shouldn’t be. Truth doesn’t change with your beliefs. 2+2 is always 4.

nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth/

OOOOOOHHHHH THE HORROR OF MAKING THE EARTH INTO A GREEN GARDEN OF EDEN!!!!

Inb4 muh arctic tundra wasteland will be replaced by trees and a more productive biosphere!!

Okay fine sure we will go with what you say, what science backs up your claim that climate change isn’t happening, what definite proof do you have

A corrupt religion masquerading as science is truly disheartening.

Ah yes mocking, used by only the strongest of diplomats

I posted them ages ago in this thread. I guess you didn't bother to look. I know it is blasphemy to read texts that don't support the claims of your clerics

Do you wear your tin foil hat when you say that

Refute the data and articles I provided earlier and I will be sure to take it off.

Climate changes with time
>little ice age in Europe
>8000 BC Sahara was savanna
>6000 BC Saudi Arabia where there were 2 wheat harvests in a year
>during 5 cent BC North Africa/Carthage was a wheat belt of the Mediterrenean

in 2100 Russia will probably be a superpower due to the all more easily accesible resources from Siberia and more feritle land.
...

Yes, because we're turning the entire earth tropical. When ice sheets are in tropical weather, shit tends to melt, and when shit tends to melt, water levels rise. If you're ok with reducing landmass drastically and making many homeless just to have some more plants in the landmass that remains, go ahead.
xkcd.com/1732/

Is this bullshit image ever going to die?
1/2

>Water vapur
Atmospheric water vapour is held in very tight equilibrium (rain & evaporation), so it functions as a feedback and not a forcing. Adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will also increase the amount of water vapour.

>Greenhouse gasses are a small fraction of the atmosphere
So fucking what? Small things can have large impacts.

>CO2 has logarithmic response
This is widely known, and accounted for. Given the size of the greenhouse effect on Earth, even a relatively small increase will have a large impact.

>CO2 lags temperature
Usually climate changes were driven by other factors like solar activity or the Earth's orbit, with CO2 serving as a feedback mechanism due to the long timescale. This time CO2 is the primary cause of the warming, which can be shown by looking at the reduction of outgoing radiation.

>CO2 ppm in our atmosphere has been fluctuating...
Look at the timescale. Those "fluctuations" would be a flat line on any graph of modern times.

>Sea levels were rising, so it's not caused by humans
That's not how you do attribution.

2/2

>Climate gurus won't show you the above graph
Because it's complete bullshit.
It uses an old version of UAH and cherrypicks the hell out of the endpoints. 2015 was a little below trend, and 1998 was a massively strong El-Nino year. Use a different dataset, or ANY other pair of dates, and there would be a warming trend.

>Greenland GISP2 data shows modern warming
No. Fuck you, no.
That graph ends in 1855. The "Present" used in GISP2 is 1950, not 2000. All modern warming is off the end of that chart.

>Did you know about the Minoan Warming, Roman Warming and Medieval Warming?
Greenland isn't the whole planet. You're confusing local events with global trends.

>US Tornadoes haven't increased
That was never a prediction of AGW. Also, the USA has a rather mild warming trend compared to most of the world.

>No increase in US droughts.
Yes there is: Put a trendline through the NOAA data.
And again, the USA isn't the whole world.

>Al Gore
Whole gives a fuck? He's not a climatologist.

>Donald Trump isn't dumb
Ignoring reality isn't a mark of intelligence.