Can Fascism ever rise again? is it possible, for example, to rebrand fascism with another name and kinder but persuasive faces? is a Mosley-ish Fascism without the black shirt uniform a valid possibility of Fascism returning? is it more plausible in non-cucked western countries, like South America for example?
Thoughts?
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Probally never, atleast not in Europe, the leftist cucks are taking over...
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I've been compiling different ideas from different leaders and writers for about a year now. Still a ways to go. Been working on different logos and stuff like that too. Give it a couple years I'm sure others have been doing the same.
It can't be rebranded. There's too much philosophy and other things you'd lose and the hardcore would just call themselves facsist as well as the new name you come up with and the words would become synonymous.
The goal should be to normalize fascism. Make it a legitimate political ideology in the mainstream. Own it and be strong about it like a real fascist.
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The more hardcore you go the more you polarize the unwashed masses. The fact is you can't normalize it because fascism has been ingrained in society as being synonymous with evil. Handpicking policies and forming a new regime would be the more prudent way to go at first and then maybe after generations of change normalization could occur.
Fascism is tribal communism. It will return in various forms, it will attract the low and mid range IQ trash society is composed of and just like any other kind of socialism, drown in its own shit while the high iq citizens leave the place.
>The fact is you can't normalize it
>fact
>Handpicking policies and forming a new regime would be the more prudent way to go at first and then maybe after generations of change normalization could occur.
>normalization could occur
What the fuck is the point in this thread
After the Second World War, there was a huge purge in the ranks of nationalist and fascist intellectuals. They have been eliminated. And that's why now the nationalists in Europe and the USA are retarded. That's why in France, nationalism is lepen (an idiot without charisma, without culture). That's why in the US, it's Trump (an idiot without charisma or culture). That's why in England, it's Farage (an uneducated idiot).
So no, the fantasies of great nationalist powers will not be realized anymore (except perhaps in 1000 years).
Wow what a well researched and constructive argument.
>t. armchair (((academic)))
I'm stating you can't normalize it in the current political climate. The fact that you couldn't deduct that means you're either playing dumb or you are a complete idiot.
>in the current political climate, you can't normalize something that's completely contrary to the current political climate
What a revelation.
Do you want to ask a meaningful question or just keep babbling off pointless garbage so you can use your le-ebic internetz maymays?
What the fuck meaningful question have you asked? What do you bring of value to this discussion? Nothing? Yeah sounds about right. Fuck off.
It already has. It is called "Antifa" and is sponsored by a known National SOCIALIST.
Remember kids, true fascism is ALWAYS Left.
I'm not the one that started the thread, you absolute retard.
>I'm not the one that started the thread, you absolute retard
When did I say you did you fucking dunce?
Like ALL Kike PsyOPS, Communism, is the real Fascism as it is the nature of the Kike to destroy Civilization. Let them scream Nazi, THEY are the REAL National SOCIALISTS. And our (((Politicians))) and (((Companies))) are in Bed with them, that's why they get the ROPE.
The US is an immigrant nation, open to all who come here. Trump can fuck off. We don't follow him, and he does not speak for us.
The sooner cunt Trump is fucked off, the better this nation will be. Period.
FUCK TRUMP
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It's not our job to give your thread content, worthless fucking newfag.
You asked a bunch of meaningless nonsense questions.
Ask something that's not retarded.
"What can we do to start changing the political climate?"
It's not difficult for the people who come here for actual discussion rather than to just shit up the board with autistic drivel.
Because ofc if you were an actual fascist you would wear your nation's flag instead of hiding behind an ideological label.
>Antifa
Antifa literally stands for "anti-facist" you mongoloid.
>"What can we do to start changing the political climate?"
Never ASKED you dumb fuck. I STATED that I WAS WORKING ON IT and ENCOURAGED OTHERS TO AS WELL.
>It's not our job to give your thread content, worthless fucking newfag
>Do you want to ask a meaningful question or just keep babbling off pointless garbage so you can use your le-ebic internetz maymays?
YOU'RE THE ONE ACTING AS IF YOU'RE ENTITLED TO THREAD CONTENT YOU DELUDED FUCKING CUNT.
>You asked a bunch of meaningless nonsense questions
Only questions I asked were "What the fuck meaningful question have you asked? What do you bring of value to this discussion?" And they were rhetorical.
>Because ofc if you were an actual fascist you would wear your nation's flag instead of hiding behind an ideological label
When I wear my country's flag I get my statements dismissed based on my nationality, when I post with the fasces, I get my statements dismissed based on "kek le epic memflag he must me a NYUEFAGE".
You are a complete fucking idiot. You'd had to have actively tried for every second of your upbringing to dumb yourself down for you to end up this stupid.
I was giving you an example of a question that wouldn't be retarded, you useless autismo.
>When I wear my country's flag I get my statements dismissed based on my nationality
And?
They were either retarded statements that you shouldn't have been making on account of your nationality, or the people who dismissed them aren't interested in honest discussion and you shouldn't have been giving a shit about what they think in the first place.
Bu obviously the (You)s are more important. What a sincere fascist you are.
The entire basis of your argument is the idea that I came in here asking questions. Fact is, I didn't. I brought solutions. You came in here, stirred some shit, and haven't done anything else. You are the bottom of the barrel.
I think you should look up what fascism actually is
>Can Fascism ever rise again? is it possible, for example, to rebrand fascism with another name and kinder but persuasive faces? is a Mosley-ish Fascism without the black shirt uniform a valid possibility of Fascism returning? is it more plausible in non-cucked western countries, like South America for example?
You are braindead.
The leaf gave you a solid response and you essentially plug your ears and say "Nuh-uh, it's a fact that you can't normalize fascism... but only in this society, which the entire point of fascism would be to replace!"
What a fucking dumpster fire.
Just post a /natsig/
Sup Forums needs to grow up and get over fascism
>I want the state to tell me I'm special because daddy never did!
YOU CAN'T NORMALIZE IT IN THE CURRENT FUCKING CLIMATE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. PUTTING IT OUT ON DISPLAY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE. But of course you can't wrap your empty fucking head around that one can you? Again, you haven't brought anything of substance to this thread. Fuck off. Here's a (You), it's the last one you're getting from me.
>daddy had too many rules me want no rule no more
Wow, the peak of human civilization.
National transhumanism is the way forward
Fascism is an aristocratic ideology. If you knew a single thing about it, you'd know.
No and it shouldn't. It's a solution that'll go out of control. You really want modern, industrial, multi networked governments to have fascistic powers?
>Oh, well, only people I like will run it
What about two generations later?
We should be aiming to proper Constitutional Republicanism
>As long as we call it something else and don't wear scary uniforms, people won't recognize it!
Ask me how I can tell you're just some LARPing kid and don't have a fucking clue what fascist doctrine looks like.
The "climate" you're talking about is Jew-controlled media. Normalizing fascism means overtaking that. By conceding to the Jew's influence and saying that's impossible, in essence all you actually want is some hollow, watered down, controlled opposition bullshit.
It's not my job to bring substance to your garbage thread. I keep telling you to ask a meaningful question, looks like the truth is you just don't have any.
The difference is that I'm not lubing up my asshole and hoping Big State comes fill it because they say that you're special just the way you are.
Just lean back and let it happen because the State is whispering sweet nothings into your ear.
Not much different than the Soviet
You don't even have the slightest idea what fascism even is. To you it's a boogeyman. You fear it because you identify it as authoritarian because some Greek invented a flawed grid to polarize political parties a few thousand years ago.
I know exactly what fascism is.
But let's pretend I don't.
Define for me precisely what it is.
You got some logos to share?
Read either the alternative, or essays on fascism. Not gonna waste my time writing down paragraph after paragraph.
So you don't know.
Nice.
We can see it happening in China, even though they're larping as commies.
Pure sci-fi... NatSoc is the only way forward for all nations...
>exposed as not knowing anything about fascism
>projects onto others
Great discourse. Now fuck off.
If people are gonna talk about your flag anyway just show your real one so youre taken slightly more seriously you fucking sperg
You can't even define what fascism is.
How can we have a discourse if we don't know what we're talking about?
Define it and we'll talk
When the time comes. Don't want to spread them on here right away, all threads are archived and if anything with any true weight comes out of this, which to be fair is of slim chance, it'd be an easy hitpiece if it were associated with this. I can go dig up some old discarded ones though.
>We should be aiming to proper Constitutional Republicanism
That's pretty much what you will end up over time. You can't have an emergency state forever, as Lenin pointed out. The point of fascism as you see it in history is to reverse the course a nation is taking. This can only be established through dictatorship/totalitarianism.
Moseley has suggested that there be a major referendum every 4-5 years about whether the fascist government should stay in power or revert back to being a democratic republic. He has also suggested that there be other minor referendums about various issues throughout the reign as well.
its the only solution to thus subversive communism. It will become a reality again because a civil war in many european countries is the going to be the outcome of this frenzy diversity they are pushing to the people. Nature does not want mixing, we are growing forever more detached with the society itself because of it.
Fascism will stand after the collapse
I doubt fascism would ever exist in the states, the end goal of a far right movement here would most likely be much less centralized. After all, it's the federal government that's been imposing leftist policies on the states
Well said.
You've yet to prove that YOU know anything about fascism. When I provided you with reading material on what fascism is, you just deflected and denied that I knew what it was. You don't want to know what fascism is, you want the cliffnotes, the pointform.
Go watch Cultured-Thug and come back. Yes it can, in short.
I know what it is. Pic very related.
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The only way is to make a spaceship and fuck off to another planet with only whites. No kikes nor niggers allowed.
I don't need to prove anything. You can believe I know absolutely nothing about fascism. I don't care.
But if you want to have a discussion, you need to be able to define the parameters of that discussion.
Since you are literally unable to do so, you don't actually want to have a discussion. You're just here to RP.
You are retarded and so is your pic. Rights do come from the state or from the (((international))) power that has the rights to act upon or suspend your rights.
>presidency.ucsb.edu
Link related. How 'bout that good ol' fashioned freedom?
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The reason the OP faggot will not give us the definition of Fascism, is because everyone who disagrees with his agenda is a fascist.
>I don't have to behave by the standards I set for others
Holy fuck you are fantastically retarded.
The states are so divided right now that we only have 2 choices here in America. Left=Communism
I didn't make this thread.
LOL
Please don't tell me you're dumb enough to believe that the KKK is fascist. They existed before fascism. If you weren't a fat uneducated American, you would know.
You can't do it can you? You can't define Fascism at all, can you? Please tell us all your not in college or a college graduate.
Way to prove the picture right cigan. The Bill of Rights is an affirmation of those rights, they cannot be suspended by the government. Unlike your backwater we don't need to be run by a single power or entity, that's why the 10th Amendment recognizes the basic rights that the states themselves have, not just the people living in them.
>defending the KKK
so when will you go on a meaningless nigger killing spree which will result in you getting raped?
Go on then OP, lets hear your definition.
What about my own idea
Personal ideology = immune to fascism and liberalism
Normalization won't happen if everybody will be seeing fascists in the same way as people who whitewash the Khmer Rogue.
Still waiting faggot. What is your definition?
Neo-Imperialism is more likely.
It's not a matter of can, it's a matter of when. We will see Fascism rise again in the west. For Germanic countries, Fascism is a natural extension of the tribal order.
What is your definition of fascism OP. I'm anxious to hear your definition. Nothing to say? Can't come up with the proper definition?
Fascism is where the dumbasses go, and in modern society they hate each other.
Wouldn't antifa be the people that shot hitler and folk during an NSDAP march?
>Way to prove the picture right
How you dumb fuck?
>totalitarianism
>third option economics
>nationalism
Here you go, now fuck off.
Crickets from the OP. I wonder why that is? Could it be that he does not know? Could it be that is projecting? I wonder why we don't hear his definition?
Read this ,smartass. Fascism is third position, opposing both capitalism and socialism/communism&marxism as a whole.
wtf is this picture?
Its because OP can't do research. He only relies on knowledge from memes. He is a faggot indeed.
Am I also defending ISIS and Antifa, you mouth-breathing fuck? How did you construe such an absurd conclusion?
Well, you're in Canada... do your own thing bro. Love your nation though, and be kind to your neighbors.
Ummm, no sweetie, those would have been the people in the Brownshirts. Nice try though, your thinking...I like that.
Not even a bad idea to be honest. I still dislike our PM, but I hope for better in 2019.
>Never do anything to harm it's people
>Start wars with all its neighbors and draft all its men
Wow, good job on that.
Wow...copy AND paste! And hear I was thinking you were not able to explain your opinion in your own words. Oh wait...you can't. Pro tip, you never could.
The era for totalitarianism has past-- and yet here we are trying to resurrect totalitarian states. Time for fresh ideas friends.
fuck off with your falseflag image retarded shill.
>Can Fascism ever rise again?
Short Answer: Yes
Kek. OP is a fag.
Its professors lied to it, while pushing communist propaganda into its soft head. This is why it can't argue in its own words.
Vote for something better, and tell your friends to do the same. We will make it through these times together... I'm not far from Canada, I love you guys. I don't want to see anything bad happen here in the cold North...
> rebrand fascism
Stop right there.
I can see it working on South American countrys but would need a lot of work to install.
>on-cucked western countries, like South America
not for long, it's now or never. tranny shit and faggots used to be mocked and repulsive back in
Pincochet.
If fascism rises again, then it will be equally possible for communism to also rise again to oppose it. And just as we crushed you last time, we shall relish in the opportunity to do it all again.
If it does come back it better not be in the form of fucking Nazism. I don't want a cult of personality and I'm not autistic about race.
implying we are not living under subversive communism already. top kek dumbshit
get ready