So I finally got to watching pic (not really a fan of harem stuff...

So I finally got to watching pic (not really a fan of harem stuff, but I seem to be missing a lot of references to it) and got to the 'find a familiar episode'.

Why, exactly, was a slime a bad choice for a familiar? It restrained or blinded people for well over a minute in addition to removing whatever meager defenses they had and stopped them from using magic.

I'm pretty sure I could beat up a naked, blindfolded, and tied up dude in less than a minute.

Slime can't really hand out fliers, which is a primary task. Plus it freaks out every other member of the peerage.

Plus it goes into tentacle territory, which despite most of the OVAs, isn't what DxD does best.

Familiars have no importance in this series the only use they have is handing out fliers and being body doubles for when the cast can't attend school themselves.

Because Issei gets a much much cooler familiar later on
It's a fucking viking airship

The girls thought that one pervert that takes off their clothes was enough

Isse doesn't need a slime to get people naked

He never has to take off their clothes himself they do it for him.

I want Rias to kill me

>not a fan of harem
Outsider detected

I meant dress break

I don't exactly have a problem with harems period; my issue is more with the genre.

>I don't hate black people, it's just the color of their skin that scares me

Well to use the way to phrased it, its more like
>I don't hate black people, I just hate how they're in gangs and murder people

Ah so
>not all blacks are niggers, but I fucking hate niggers

Uh, guess so. If I understand you right.

Basically, to go back to the harem thing; a lot of the things that usually happen in harem anime I don't like. However, I don't have a strict problem with harems themselves so if they show up in an otherwise okay show I don't mind.

I have that issue with a fair bit of genres, actually; I don't mind the underlying concept, its just that some of the most popular things to do in them piss me off.

Yeah I get it
So are you enjoying it so far?

More or less. I actually haven't seen any new harem anime (new as in made past 07), so if this is where the genre has gone I think I'll be okay with other new harem anime.

The fanservice is way excessive though. Honestly a little annoying.

It's actually one of the best harems, in my opinion at least
And the series is known for the fanservice, even though in the future seasons it'll be considerably toned down
And I mean the upcoming season 4 and possible 5 and so on

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Good to hear. Its something I can deal with, but I've never been a fan of fanservice.

Jesus Christ this is DxD.
The only thing of value is the fan service

Disagree. That being said, there is a very practical reason.

In my experience, excessively fanservicey works tend to inspire less porn. When something is already softcore porn, there's less of an incentive for fans to make their own.

I use way too many commas.

Need to work on that.

Not true
I've read the novels as well and I love both the PLOT and the plot
Also this is the harem with the best male characters so there's that
I agree, for how popular this is you'd expect more porn

>I agree, for how popular this is you'd expect more porn
Like I said; sexier the work, less the porn. She-Hulk, Bayonetta, etc. They're all pretty low in the porn supply despite (or, if I'm right, because they are) intentionally being sexy characters.

With some exceptions
Kancolle, fate stay night, to love ru all have a ton of porn

True. Not sure how they managed to go against the grain but I'm not complaining.

Maybe they simply became so huge that they overcame all that and just got tons of hentai
Still did you check out the dxd mobage? It's got some great ecchi stuff
And Miyama Zero did a bunch of dxd art

No, but I just found a collection link so I'll check it out.

>i don't know anything about the series so i'll just shitpost.

>Also this is the harem with the best male characters so there's that
Speaking of that,i haven't read the novels since vol 12 i think (it was Irina's volume).Has Issei's male harem grown?

The way I figure it, DxD is an example of a story done well. Yes it uses elements we've seen MANY times before, but it reminds us why they became overused in the first place.

Ise is about the only thing that has unique character traits in that the hero declares a desire for a harem from pretty much the start. (From what I've seen for myself, that's the only thing against the grain.) Between that and his obsession with oppai we don't waste time setting up the fanservice the way other harems have to.

That's... a pretty good explanation. Probably explains why I like it even though its got a lot of stuff I would normally not like.

I usually go the opposite direction and prefer it when the MC doesn't even realize everyone wants his dick and friendzones them all, but unapologetic harem chaser is a good choice too.

Riser and Cao Cao are pretty fucking gay for him now
And read the next volumes, Rizevim is fucking awesome

>Has Issei's male harem grown?
It's bigger then his female harem.

What a facebook tier image. I'd pick Judai any day

I should get back to it one of these days then,thanks anons.

It seemed to fit the post. Pic related is actually my 1st effort (and it shows I know.) Still love it when others repost it.

The only problem I've had with DxD over the last arc is that Issei got turned into even more of a special snowflake. I know there's no other way around it especially because of power levels but it still rubs me the wrong way considering how it's been handled in the genre.

At least the story is straightforward enough to not get out of hand and crash and burn. The characters, comedy and action is also good.

Thread needs some best Valkyrie.

Also worth mentioning is the find a familiar ep comes from a short story found in vol 8. Essentially there wasn't enough material in vol 2 for a full 6 eps so they went to other published material.

It will pick up again soon user.

Fair point about the special snowflake angle, but it IS used to advance the plot as the series advances. Basically it's a shonen MC trope that we only discovered in ep 6.

It will be used to uncover many different and unexpected layers of depth in time. Even if everyone that isn't Ise has a better idea of what he has than he does.

>Issei is too much of a special snowflake
>when Vali, Cao Cao, Dulio, Sirzechs, Azazel, Shiva, Crom Cruach all exist

>special snowflake
What happened?Spoil me.

But it's true. Vali, Cao Cao, Sirzechs are too, but no the others. Azazel, Shiva and Crom Cruach didn't suddenly become powerful as fuck in the span of one year or were necessarily born with mutations.

Further than having the boosted gear, Issei gets a body made by two of the three strongest beings in the universe and can gradually use said power. It's handled better than it sounds but there's no point in beating around the bush with it.

It's hard to refuse a request, but I'll point out OP won't know this character. She shows up in S3 or vol 6 or 7.

>Issei gets a body made by two of the three strongest beings in the universe and can gradually use said power
Oh,didn't that happen back in Vol 11 or 12?I thought something new happened.

Yeah, beside that he just starts to use Ophis' power in a new mode.

Now we got teased for 2 new modes coming sometime between now and the end.

OP stated where he was in the anime. None of those will be known to him as DxD takes it's time with the world building

The thing that makes it okay is that it's still in the realm of a dragon unlike other MCs who end up becoming a hybrid of every known species possible.

To be fair, they're just talking about the story, not to me.

You're not wrong. That's the lowest fucking tier of MC.

It just gives OP some incentive then.

>MC has both demonic and angelic abilities

Biggest irk when it comes to that.

Did rosweisse also became one of Issei baby mommas?

Yeah, pretty much.

Yes, she's even in his peerage.

I have this printed on a wallscroll. Rias in high leg is simply perfect.

I'm going to advise taking your time to enjoy the series as it unfolds with perhaps 1 BIG exception. Season 3 tried to cram in 50% more LN material plus anime original content and more than a few were disappointed with the result. Reading vols 5,6, and 7 could well be a better choice than/or in addition to S3.

This one was shit.
Not in my list.

For what it's worth we have been told that futer seasons will go back to the 2 LN per season model. This means the next 2 seasons will be the best yet.

Hopefully.

That was TNK that stated that, but if it's true that DxD is going to Passione, things could change.

Checking back,i stopped reading at Vol.18.From the way the other anons were talking i just thought he became even more special in the latest volumes which i haven't read (though it turns out it's not something "new" per se).

And actually,thinking back on it i think S3 being so disappointing put me off and might've been one of the reasons i stopped following the series.The newer volumes are translated,right?If so i'll probably catch up soon.

It's translated till V22 which is almost done. The side stories are also translated for the most part.

Volume 18 and 19 are the lowest points of the series. Ishibumi was seriously in a rut.

Although shit starts to hit the fan again significantly starting with volume 20 precisely when 666 is revealed to already be unsealed.

Why is Vail stronger than Issei when logically speaking Issei should be the stronger one. fucking ophis power up ffs

Because Vali also got an asspull Ophis powerup because status quo can't be broken until their fight in the finale.

Because Ishibumi is a hack and Issei should've surpassed him 2 books ago, but he gave Vali the same power up because lolwhynot even though Issei died for his. Also Issei can't fully use the power up, but Vali has no issues because lol he's a super genius with the best possible combination of genes to be using a Longinus XD.

In retrospect Cao Cao fits as Issei's rival much more than Vali.

Cao Cao represents everything that Issei is not. He's a normal human not a Gary Stu. Does he have a sky high amount of asspulls? Hell fucking yeah, but at least they're not the usual ones you'd see in a shouen.

Vali on the other hand is literally Onii-sama transferred into DxD.

>Hell fucking yeah, but at least they're not the usual ones you'd see in a shouen.
>Vali on the other hand is literally Onii-sama transferred into DxD.
I thought we've come to the conclusion that Vali is the typical shounen protagonist a long time ago (super duper special background,battle-maniac,no interest in girls).

Whats the best platform for LNs?im about to finish season 2 and want to switch over them. im becoming attatched to the relationships. its not healthy

Read them on BT. And stop namefagging.

You know, when Ishibumi compared Issei and Vali to Goku and Vegeta, you never would've thought that the MC would be Vegeta.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no

You're still believing that rumor? The site it's posted from is plastered with porn. And Ishibumi would've most likely stayed something awhile back.

A part of me wants to believe because TNK is shit

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By this logic Issei will never surpass Vail since the whole point of Goku and Vegeta is that Goku will always be a step ahead of Vegeta.

That doesn't even make sense, Vegeta works HARD to get to where he is, even surpassing Goku at times but Goku always pulls ahead via some hard work and lots of bullshit.
I really think by that way of thinking BOTH of them are Goku.

>even surpassing Goku at times
Nice meme

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>Although shit starts to hit the fan again significantly starting with volume 20
Vol 20 is literally vol 10 tier, that scene with the parents and Issei announced himself Sekiryuutei are too great
Because Vali spent more time talking to Ophis or Ophis blessed him power something, he's da family man
I bet his female form is hotter than Yuumi

>peace sign
A sign of things to come

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How has he not fucked her yet?
You don't care people are watching, you don't even care if your own parents are watching, you just fuck her until you faint from exhaustion
Same goes for the other girls

Editor-san

Too much cockblocks.

I like not Chun-Li.

Damn him
He can fuck them too can't he

Best background girl, good taste.

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You can say a lot of things about Riser but you can't deny he's got great taste

Would bro it up with him/10