Polish anons, give me one reason why we shouldn't become a monarchy...

Polish anons, give me one reason why we shouldn't become a monarchy, quit the eu and get rid of german influence in Poland by a trade war which the krauts couldn't possibly win because they export too much for survival?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander,_Margrave_of_Meissen
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Because you have a meme flag.

what did the monarchy do for the most cucked nations of europe like bongland, swedcuckia etc?

You too?

Tak jezd my bedziemy krule i chuj
What the fuck does becoming a monarchy has anything to do with anything? What kind of monarchy would that even be? Some washed up aristocracy picking a king among themselves? King elected among rich elite? Or how about just doing what western monarchies were doing and just giving power to international cabal of few aristocratic families with no ties to nations they are rulling?

I love triggering burgercucks like you.

You're not even from Poland, otherwise you wouldn't hide behind a meme flag.

you have to go back to red dit.

They became cucked after they stopped being monarchies. Monarchy unites the people and makes sure the law is followed to the letter. Kings can also afford to be more laissez-faire than democracies.

You should really consider suicide.

Do you mean after they stopped being absolute monarchies?

You're not even white, otherwise you wouldn't hide behind a Jewflag.

Democracy has failed so greatly, It's time to institute monarchies worldwide.

Well yeah, it's not like their meme tier monarchies of the present count.

Monarchy is just a permanently entrenched oligarchy.
Why would we want to legitimate and encourage an oligarchy?
It is literally why the west is dying right- their institutions failed to keep the oligarchy in check when jews started to take powerful positions.

>What the fuck does becoming a monarchy has anything to do with anything?
With a monarchy at least you can see who is ruling. Plus, you can expel the Globalists.

So we should return to a type of monarchy that Poland never had? Memeflags were a mistake.
>german wants a caliphate
Checks out.

EXPOSED! I knew it, when I called you out, you tried a little too hard to show off your Polish pride.

i need the PLC for the Monarchy to be realistic

Oligarchy is rule by the rich. Monarchs are on the other hand can be enrolled by bloodline.

ahh damn. I was shitposting in too many tabs

So you want Poland to be like it is now forever? I see you like corruption and ''based'' pis dismantling the rule of law.

>Plus, you can expel the Globalists.
Bitch, you can't expell globalists where they are ones rulling you. Why don't monarchists never get how monarchy actualy works? Royal families are all related to each other and are tied to each other closer than they are to nations they just happen to be rulling.

>by a trade war which the krauts couldn't possibly win
Haha

So you would be ok with pis if kaczyński just declared himself a king then?

It's okay bro, no shame in being Angloshpere.

The question is, who is the rightful King of Poland? The last King of Poland(titular), was Tsar Nicholas II. The last King of Poland(actual) was Stanislaw Poniatowski. The Romanovs have a succession dispute currently ongoing, while the most prominent Poniatowski in the recent days is this guy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Poniatowski
That guy doesn't even speak Polish, is French, and supported Obama. Though a Frenchman became King of Poland in the past, do you really want an Obama supporter for your King?

What fucking nigger logic is that?
It is the rule by the oligarchy that also has a group that is positioned permanently. Do you think the rich are away from power in a monarchy? One of their m8s has total power - that makes their power even more total.
You must be a nigger or Syrian, no kraut is that retarded.

No, he is a socialist retard who wasn't raised to be a king or has a king's qualities. The average Pole would make a better king than him.

>Bitch, you can't expell globalists where they are ones rulling you.
Royal Families may be related throughout the globe but at least they earned their positions through means other than lies and deception and general rat-like behaviour like the globalists.

Monarchy is the greatest system of governing a country. That is, if you have a strong and wise monarch that loves his country and his people and can be trusted. Sadly, I don't think any of our politicians meets those requirements.

Plus, with monarchy comes a problem of who becomes king after the present one dies. Is it his son? Is the next ling elected? By whom? Regardless of which type of monarchy, there is a great risk that eventually your country will be ruled by a weak man, a retard, or a traitor. Or all of them at once.

Monarchists would be ok with a black hillary voter as long as he wore a crown and yelled about jesus a lot.

Germany would win the economic war with Poland. Most of our export goes to Germany, while majority of Germany's export goes to US. In case where we mutually close our borders Germany still has its biggest market outlet while we don't.

Do you know a single person that you would like to see as a king/queen of Poland? I don't, I consider everyone around me to be less intelligent that me therefore I want to be the only person that decides my fate. The only monarch I could accept is a puppet granted with power and duty to uphold the law and maintain the defensive army, more like a guardian of a libertarian country if you will.

A lot of the Royal Families in Europe are globalists.

Just a traditional hereditary monarchy. And in democracy you are constantly ruled by weak traitors who are slaves to voters.

>but at least they earned their positions through means other than lies and deception and general rat-like behaviour like the globalists
Yeah, they earned it by fucking their sisters.

There is no rightful king. The last 10 or something kings of Poland were elected, meaning that monarchy was no longer passed to offspring.

Axel doesn't have any right to being king.

Not really, Monarchists primarily care about the legitimacy of the monarch.

The very basis for monarchy is that monarch is a sovereign elected by God.
Even during elective monarchy period, King was described as being King "from the election by nobility and from the grace of God"
To such sovereign nation answers and he himself answers to God (God being sovereign of His entire creation).
>What kind of monarchy would that even be?
And what kind of democracy you think that we live in? That majority makes decisions upon their convictions and what they view as best for Poland?
Don't make me laugh.

You have no idea the contempt with which the mega rich and monarchies have for the average person m8.
We are just pawns.
The only successful society is one that is run by and for the middle class- like early USA or 1950-80s Australia.
The whole reason why the west is in the place it is in is because of the huge returns in capital the rich have had since the 80s from globalism and they are using that new power to destabilize institutions that keep them in check.

" The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force"

The mega rich are also the force behind the new radicalism of the left.

A King is actually able to love his people.
Both Kings and oligarchs love power, that's just human nature, but unlike a globalistic oligarch, a King actually has his people behind him and uses his power to protect them, whereas a globalist just want's to protect his money because he doesn't have a home nation and no values.

Dont the poles already have Jesus and Mary was their monarchs ?

Christ is already King in Poland as it should be

That is true, but the Polish Constitution of 1791 changed all of that to transform Poland from an elected monarchy to a hereditary monarchy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_3_May_1791
I was wrong, it said that the Polish crown would pass on to the King of Saxony once Poniatowski died. Meaning that either this guy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rüdiger,_Margrave_of_Meissen or this guy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander,_Margrave_of_Meissen is the rightful King of Poland.

>The whole reason why the west is in the place it is in is because of the huge returns in capital the rich have had since the 80s from globalism and they are using that new power to destabilize institutions that keep them in check.

No, i don't blame the individual rich people and their corporations who earned their wealth through honest civilized means. The corporate rich themselves don't destabilize the nations, the government is too big for corporations to have that power.
It's the rich in the GOVERNMENT who do the destabilizations because their leftists beliefs are so dangerous. Read up on the Frankfurt school, they do everything in order to prevent absolutism.

>A King is actually able to love his people.
Retard. It is just an oligarch with extra constitutional power - how the fuck can you not see that?

>Protip: you can't.

Greatness is passed on through the blood to a great extend.

They are currently on a leash, so they have to pretend. They can't risk their bloodlines be wiped out.

Yeah but in democracy the risk that one traitor will completely destroy your country is smaller. Poland had a traitor king, Stanisław August Poniatowski, that has led Poland to partitions.

No, globalists are stateless and void of tradition.

I dont think you understand how rich the rich are and how much they control the debate through social media and funding.

Where is BLM? Did they just disappear? Why? Answer that and then you will understand a little more.
Re gov bureaucrats - they are just responding to the stimuli given to them.

Poles are the niggers of Europe. While it's quite hard to differentiate between Belarusians, Czechs/slovaks, ukranians, it is very easy to spot a Pole.

Something about it, your eyes are slightly chinked, and your nigger forehead shape.

Elected kings are not real kings tho. He is a proof that even small democratisations of the state lead to corruption. And how is the risk smaller? Are you trying to tell me that our current politicians are not corrupt as fuck and selling us to germany? If the risk is so small then why every party so far goes against polish interests?

Cool

>It's the rich in the GOVERNMENT who do the destabilizations because
Not true, the rich corrupt the government, because people in government want to be rich and have the means to achieve that (doing what the rich want for gibs)

Pretend? How so. Based on the actions of most of these royal families, it seems to me they are globalist. Besides, didn't these royal families helped the globalist to rise to prominence in the first place?

No, because in Poland's history, they had a system in which they were an elective monarchy. They were sort of like a republic.
also, the current polish state is actually a successor to the earlier polish Lithuanian commonwealth, in a sense, that they elect leaders.

Fuck monarchy, we need to help ONR rise to power.

I fucking love UK's immigration policies, we get rid of every single non-patriotic leftie Pole because they just immigrate to the UK as soon as they finish highschool. Then they spread horrorstories about migrants and radicalise Poles that stayed in Poland even more.

It's not like we can't come back to pre Commonwelath times.

But Poland-Lithuania changed all of that in 1791

You can't, really. You can't hold non-ethnically Polish lands which have no pro-Polish sentiment whatsoever.
Elective monarchy is a feudal oligarchy. There is a very significant difference between that and a republic in a modern sense. Poland could be compared to a Holy Roman Empire.

>Where is BLM? Did they just disappear? Why?
You don't understand. It's not the rich, it's the political rich or in the government. BLM is a weapon funded by George Soros.

Whiter than you Piotr

Real kings in real monarchies have unlimited power, they control the army, the media, the trade, they can have anyone killed for any reason or no reason at all. They can do whatever they want. Democraticallly elected governments don't have that, and if they want to achieve that (by earning total support of the high ranked military members, slowly passing laws that gradually limit and eventually remove citizens' rights etc.) they need a lot of time, much more than one or two terms, so they are less likely to achieve that because at some point people will notice that their lives became much shittier regardless of propaganda, and will elect another government unless they are French.

it's impossible.

The Ukraine,
Lithuania,
Belorussia,
Estonia.
moldavia ,
Latvia
and romania are all independent nations and will not sacrifice their sovereignty.

(((Constitutional))) monarchy

>funded by George Soros
Yeah just Soros hey? How fucking bluepilled can you get?

t. ahmed living in a police state

I meant in regards to the political system (absolute monarchy) not territorywise.

This is an essentially misanthropic view. Just because i want to have money i automatically become corrupted? No, power doesn't corrupt, but already corrupt people with power are going to abuse that power.

The leftist globalists are essentially driven by their vile leftist BELIEFS, read about the Frankfurt school.

The english are freedom hating cucks.

Poland is releva-

Csssssss....cicho tam, to miało być niespodziankę! hashtag niedługo

Poland is importa-

Poland is stro-

Well i don't keep much of an eye on the current "royal" families. It doesn't really matter what they do. A king can always be dethroned and you can have Tarl the first of house Warwick.

Poland is powerfu-

Poland is ri-

>a type of monarchy that Poland never had?
Just kys ignorant xD

Poland matter-

IMO Poland's best bet is to be a Constitutional Republic. We have a chance to regain our position in Europe and World politics. We can gather around us other Slav nations and create a real alternative to both, Russians and Germans as leaders. They will always make deals and do politics over our heads and we should do our best to stand our ground. We could be an European Israel. We're already an ethnostate, with enough support from the US and actual leadership from patriots within the country itself, we'll be more unstoppable than Devon fuckin' Tracey.

Everyone wants to be rich. If you have enough power and someone tells you they will give you a lot of money or a nice house at a nice beach, it takes character to refuse. Not all politicians are corrupt while entering politics, but few have enough character to not become one.

???

I agree, but i don't think it happens to such an extend as implied earlier. Plus, George Soros already has 8 billion, he doesn't do thinks for money anymore, he does thinks based on his Frankfurt School beliefs.

Let's bring back the Kaiser!
youtu.be/I82_ybEAHxM

This is not entirely correct.

>Let's bring back the Kaiser!
(Who fucked up everything that Chancellor Bismark was constructing)

What?
It's not like Bismarck would have left Switzerland alone

And we will. Post commies wil eventually dies.
Everything looks as bright as it can for us. Is the everyone else that going apeshit.
Seriously i tragelled a lot around the world and let me tell you that the "so called west" is in agony. Ruskie will probably balkanize in our lifetime.
So who's going to feel the spafe after the west will fall? Sultanate of El-Urope? China? We?
Power vacuum will be outrageously big

HAHAHAHAHA

WE WUZ ROCKETEEERS N SHEEEEEIT

FUCKING LOL

That's a naive way of thinking. The hunger for wealth is unsatiable, and the more you have, the more hungry you are. It never stops.

I don't doubt that Soros is an ideologue and does what je does because if beliefs, but I doubt he would pursue those beliefs if there was no money in it and he would risk losing all his wealth that puts him above regular people.

I've lived abroad for over ten years. In Ireland and later US (I have a Green Card). Came back to Poland some time ago, met a gorgeous blonde (with brains) and will make a family with her most likely.

My life couldn't be better.

We always need to keep vigilant about whom we trust the power in Poland to. I don't see real right wing leaders. They're all soiboys in my opinion.

>WE WUZ ROCKETEEERS N SHEEEEEIT
NASA agrees ;)
mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=852

P.S. Besides that pic is is again very Anglo-German centric and ignores lots of EE accomplishments.
P.P.S. A lot of "Russian" and Austrian (not even on the list top kek) accomplishments were made by ethnic Poles.

Just give us few years more...

We have time. Others don't

>We have time.

Let's hope you're right about that. All the best to you.

Why wouldn't we had it?
Even in case of Polend or Polexit we're in the best position imaginable.
Still in NATO = no war
No relation to EU = we dan trade china with no backlash from germany.
Even ruskies in this scenario looks less frightening.
I don't want to say everything is fine and dandy, but it's on really good way to be like this

>Russia
>periphery
An enormous exporter of gas and oil being a periphery. Same to rich muslim countries. World's biggest exporter of everything, CHINA, is semi-periphery. BUT GUESS WHAT, SHECKLESTAN IS BLUE.

This map is literally garbage.