(((Kraut))) was a Jewish youtube skeptic (fedora atheist) who led the witchhunt against alt-right youtube girl RageAfterStorm & got her fired from her job. He then attempts a skeptic "debunk" of Race Realism by snarky pilpul Youtube vids.
This YT debate on Race Realism goes on for the past 4 months: Kraut & Tea vs JF Gariepy (Québécois PhD Biologist) & Ryan Faulk of The Alternative Hypothesis. JF & Alt-Hype have been merrily BTFOing Kraut.
Kraut's sekrit Discord is leaked revealing a massive dox & pilpul operation of Skeptic Stasi working with /leftypol/, Antifa & the New York Times, to infiltrate, gaslight, dox & erase every Alt-Right/Race Realist on the net (& fake their nudes) called Operation Mincemeat & Operation Red Mackerel. Kraut's world comes TUMBLING DOWN & he deletes everything.
Now it's about /ourguys/ vs. various leftists and liberals on Andy Warski's YT stream
>is a manlet >beat up his ex-wife >got literally cucked >became a "skilled" SC2 player by spamming roaches >gets hand-held by Blizzard (programmers literally gave Zerg a buff just for him in one tournament) because they need somebody other than Koreans to win SC2 tournaments >gets his dick pics shared publicly, and quits out of shame >tried to murder a fat kid and his dad because they DDOS'd him >bullied his own son on livestream for being Christian and telling his dad not to swear (son visits on weekends, etc., lives with the mom) >tried to sue Aydin because she called him a cult leader >has a cult of retards on Leddit >they pay him $40 per month in order to shitpost here >is literally funded by a Qatari Sheik who wants to weaken whites with liberalism (chatlogs posted by an Argentinian user) >unironically supported Hillary Clinton >supports open borders >thinks more welfare checks will fix all problems with immigrants >told his best friend to kill himself, & the madman actually did it >IS A PEDO >shared lewds of a 15-year-old girl, and harassed a 12-year-old girl >wants to legalize CP >tells his daughter that incest is okay (preparing to rape her in the future, much?) >defended CP for hours in a debate >Andy Warski hates him for being a pedo, and won't let him back on >got BTFO'd by Naked Ape and left the stream early >got BTFO'd by JF in the fist 15 minutes; and spent the rest of the debate deflecting, and brought-in Tara as a punching bag >is afraid to debate Alt-Hype, and blocked him on Twitter >is afraid to debate Spencer with moderation >is currently deleting tons of his own Twitter posts because The_Guardian is collecting info on him about supporting pedophilia, harassing people, defamation, etc.
> user WITH TWITTER user WITH TWITTER > user WITH TWITTER user WITH TWITTER > user WITH TWITTER user WITH TWITTER
Could somebody give this links to JF or BravingRuin so they can tweet them?
Is a little collection of Destiny tweets were his slander JF. He basically accuse him of: > Having an anchor baby. > Beign a mentally ill person. > Raping a retarded girl.
It's not just about raping a retarded girl. There are multiple false allegations that can be disproven and show that he acted in bad faith. Not only he asserted falsehood against JF and intentionally misread the court cases but he actually created a difamation campaign when he personally or by proxy riled up people with this storys to make them spread.
>tfw you debunk and BTFO the Alt-Right and their pseudo-science while playing vidya online HAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAhHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Caleb Perez
if Destiny can break their ToS then anyone can, then there is no point them having a ToS. it makes them look incredibly bad all round.
Gabriel Jackson
yo dude, why are you posting these videos? i thought you told me you wanted to kill niggers and that you were a neo-nazi in the other thread? remember? but now you're telling me you're a committed anti-racist? wtf is going on bro?
Matthew Cruz
>debunked he made at least five logical fallacies in the first three minutes Hightlight: >1:00 dem evil raycist will be watchin' da vidya man What an absolute waste of human flesh minime is.
Hunter Murphy
>3:00 he says that phrenology is equivalent to the thing that scientist have proven Why is he such a dishonest man? Does he have no honor?
Elijah Miller
He will if he loses a defamation suit. Kinda hard for Twitch to deny he broke the ToS when a court rules he did.
Jaxson Jackson
it's ok, he'll just sell all his starcraft trophies
Connor Cooper
AltHype is selective with his sources when drawing conclusions about IQ and race.
AltHype doesn't talk about more recent (post 2010) models of cognitive development which refute the old, outdated factor models of cognitive development.
Does that count as lying by omission? Yes, if he's familiar with them.
See comments by John Fuerst (aka Chuck) versus Kees-Jan Kan (aka KJK).
If the relationship between race and IQ doesn't matter to white nationalists, why do they lie about it?
Noah Jackson
Why is a South African arguing for multi culturalism?
Thomas Miller
>3:43 black peoples skull are not shaped differently >totally not the same skullshape goy
Jose Russell
This should be fixed.
Chase Murphy
I'm just having an identity crisis fuck you
Luis Stewart
OY, FIRE THAT MAN IMMEDIATELY!
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Because it's the way forward.
Being a weird shade of beige will save us all and make us into the strongest race possible
Jeremiah Carter
Shilling for a pedophile.Sad!
Noah Green
Daily reminder you do not even need race realism or IQ in order to support ethno nationalism.
Noah Rogers
So you don't actually think that Alt Hype cites bogus research, he just ignores some modern research?
When you mentioned the ESRI, were you referencing how they are funded by the Pioneer Fund?
Ryan Williams
>why do they lie about it?
poast some lies
Connor Thompson
>alt-hype is wrong AH has already addressed this. If you only include heavily g-loaded tests, then the racial gaps grow even larger
Cooper Roberts
>What are twin studies that disproof your study? But IQ correlates with genetics and therfore with race very good. Look at this (Sources: Loehlin (2000) and Lynn (2015)).
Connor Peterson
>If the relationship between race and IQ doesn't matter to white nationalists, why do they lie about it? Most white nationalists don't talk about heritability of IQ and instead decide to look at current and projected IQ's to justify white nationalism, although it plays an insignificant role in their justification of it.
Luke Fisher
Do you really believe this or is joke like pic related?
Landon Diaz
It's was just a meme dawg! Pls stop!
Angel Nelson
He cites a lot of old research which was legit or questionable at the time, but has since been refuted.
Knowingly citing old research while ignoring newer research which refutes it and then drawing conclusions is called academic fraud.
I've read some of the newer research published via ESRI journals. They mainly just cite and review each others work. That's also academic fraud. There's nothing wrong with how receiving funding from Jared Taylor's fund, as long as it doesn't affect the research conclusions.
Refusing to reject false ideas is the symptom of a dying civilization. An ethnostate which bases its ideology on false ideas will fail.
Correct. There are excellent arguments in favour of an ethnostate which should continue to be scrutinised.
Nathaniel Mitchell
>Correct. There are excellent arguments in favour of an ethnostate which should continue to be scrutinised.
Give me your best argument as to why black people should not have a state of their own.
Matthew Lee
So whats this with JF suing somebody because they have evidence he molested a demented woman?
Ryan Butler
>An ethnostate which bases its ideology on false ideas will fail. Ethno-states aren't based on IQ you fucking retard.
Jason Long
Do you know any of the sources Alt Hype cites which have been refuted?
>That's also academic fraud Source?
Noah Taylor
Read the article lads....It's not that difficult. It's based on data from the same twin studies and many more. Here Read about the issue of gene-environment covariance. That simple concept refutes most of AltHype's conclusions.
People also inherit their culture from their parents, grandparents etc.
Partly explains why Carribean black americans in the USA do better than african americans, (and the average huwhite btw). 'The Caribbean effect'.
Nathaniel Baker
Austism is more of a behavioral condition that a cognitive impairment. Autism is characterized by trouble with understanding the motivations of others. It's doesn't mean that an autistic person's internal ability to process information relative to themselves is necessarily hampered.
Also, the document said she had a "mild" case of autism and was "tired of being treated like a child". I honestly think her parents just didn't like JF and were trying to make her seem "retarded" so they have an excuse to sue him for shekels and break-off the relationship.
Ryan Perez
So she was legally declared, retarded?
Matthew Taylor
>One word cucked
Oliver Thompson
Speaking of denying reality, I especially love this sentence which has nothing to back it up: >One possibility is that Western society is a homogenous learning environment-- school systems are all the same. Everyone has the same educational experiences. The only thing that varies is cognitive ability. Right. Not likely.
Angel Cook
>implying I'm going to digest something a kike called (((Kaufmann))) wrote and interpreted for me to be a good goy Still doesn't explain why rich black kids are more violent than poor white kids. Still doesn't explain why niggers still nig. It's just science interpreted through a liberal lense, this is far away from being scientific, this is denial to the extrem.
Kayden Hughes
>muh racist dogwhistles >all previous scientific ideas on race is only phrenology >the difference between races is as different as the difference between different colored pencils >'''Lewontin's Fallacy''' >'''outrage that they show dindu's engaging in racial violence''' >White nationalism = white supremacy >we should deny facts because it will eventually effect the normative claims we make in a way that is against my moral position >all the scientists agree with me >'''MS Paint lectures''' so... this is the intellectual might of DesTINY
Nathaniel Rivera
>mfw noone takes this brainlet serious or recognicze him, not even other ecelebs
Henry Gomez
we're fucked dude, he BTFO'd us so hard
Levi Hall
Please stop pretending like you aren't another Desticuck bot. We know you fucking faggots have endless amounts of time on your hands.
Camden Richardson
What you're citing is tumbl level horseshit which the majority of experts reject (source: Reeve & Charles 2008)
Brody Wood
Seconding this, one of the tests to see if someone is autistic is to show images of people's eyes and have them pick which emotion is being expressed. If it were simply stupidity then they wouldn't be looking for emotion.
Every single thread you get told what "retarded" means and every single thread you conveniently keep forgetting that it was already addressed.
Brody Foster
Look at this face, this is the face that is owning us, and what do you do in return? nothing! pathetic, i thought we were gonna save the white race
Andrew Gray
stop shitposting and gtfo to your debatelet fan-forum
Destiny really shit the bed, there really is no way his crusade wont end his streaming career at this point.
Sebastian Lopez
>Give me your best argument as to why black people should not have a state of their own.
I never argued against ethnostates. But black people already have ethnostates in some African countries. Many african countries are however >95% black but still multi-ethnic, and full of conflict. Most civil wars in africa are between tribes (eg. Hutu vs Tutsi in Rwanda; Shona vs Ndebele, Zimbabwe; Americo-Liberians vs local tribes, Liberia). Having more black ethnostates won't solve much.
> Ethno-states aren't based on IQ you fucking retard. I never claimed they were. Just wondering why people can't be honest about the IQ and race debate. The conclusions don't matter after all now, do they?
Camden Gray
>Carribean black americans in the USA do better than african americans, (and the average huwhite btw). Source?
Ryder Lee
Sweet, I will assume you are okay with white ethnostates too
Anthony Torres
>Refusing to reject false ideas is the symptom of a dying civilization. Do you really think this insignificant part of their argument will lead to their downfall or are you be retarded on purpose?
Jason Martin
>being this salty
Wow it's almost like Destiny doesn't give a fuck about a C&D letter written by a dumbfuck without a law degree that fucks retards.
Andrew Reyes
*being
William Nguyen
Your articles(!) are not studies, you are posting bullshit. IQ of blacks varies to that of white people, you are basically denying science at this point. What can you pull out of your ass to deny the rampant aggressiveness, the niggerdom in general? Another Kikes blandaupp blog? Dude, you're an embarrasment.
Adam Kelly
He has no sources, at least no scientific sources, because no one would talk about racial differences in IQ, because they wouldn't exist, but hey they exist and he thinks that citing a jewish (((Kaufmann))) is equivalent to citing a study that has a valid methodology. This guy is all talk no walk, a literal lefty.
John Evans
>Speaking of denying reality, I especially love this sentence which has nothing to back it up: >One possibility is that Western society is a homogenous learning environment-- school systems are all the same.
You're quote mining and haven't read the article properly. Later in the article, the author states that Western societies are not homogenous learning environments due to socioeconomic differences in the school system.
Remember, if you let yourself get emotional, it interferes with your brain's ability to reason. (I read a paper recently which backs up that statement, but I forget the author's name. meh)
Thunderf00t hammering FBI statistics in a surprisingly well reasoned manner.
Robert Foster
>Later in the article, the author states that Western societies are not homogenous learning environments due to socioeconomic differences in the school system They talk about environment-genes co-variance, which in no way refutes the genetic basis of intelligence. They also provide zero evidence for your claims about socio-economic differences. My point still stands
Not that any of this matters anyway, given that the gap remains even in pure Raven's progressive matrices
Jayden Roberts
What sort of people like Destiny? Even if you have his point of view he is such a massive faggot jesus christ it's hard to listen to. Every fucking minute a new strawman, sighing loudly, making as much nasty little remarks in between pauses, always starts to shit on people behind their back when they leave.
Camden Martinez
The Caribbean Effect, as its know amongst sociologists, refers to the higher educational attainment, income, and social mobility of Carribean black americans, who earn more than african americans, and whites, on average. I don't think they link that to IQ.
Google scholar, lads. I'm not being paid to teach.
Weird to see people chimp out over this so much. Who cares what the results show? They're interesting nonetheless.
Connor Garcia
>didn't touch the percentage of crimes by ethnicity or per capita
wew lad.
Jose Gonzalez
>This is Destiny scared shitless
Christian Morgan
>The Caribbean Effect, as its know amongst sociologists, refers to the higher educational attainment, income, and social mobility of Carribean black americans, who earn more than african americans, and whites, on average Elite sample bias. Look it up. Easy stuff
Kayden Parker
>its know amongst sociologists >sociology a field that is considered as one of the most pozzed and liberal field there is >the virgin sociology study vs the chad genetic truth
Dylan Thompson
Provide a summary
Alexander Myers
55 555 33 digits of understanding
>What sort of people like Destiny? >he is such a massive faggot massive faggots, that's who
Benjamin Martin
This and I can't even find anything about it, mind linking us some stuff about it?
Caleb Rivera
Nice memes he posted, gotta admit
Tyler Allen
>my science > your science
You all argue like niggers.
Andrew Garcia
Found the genes yet racists?
Jeremiah Clark
Biology is an actual science. Sociology is nothing more than bullshit.
Brandon Harris
>They talk about environment-genes co-variance, which in no way refutes the genetic basis of intelligence. They also provide zero evidence for your claims about socio-economic differences. My point still stands
Noone is refuting the there is 'some' genetic basis for IQ. Just like no reasonable person claims that IQ is purely cultural.
Gene-environment covaries is a problem because you can't draw conclusions about the relative importance of either factor in isolation.
Well, the author shows that more culturally loaded tests such as verbal ability are more cognitively demanding than more cognitively complex tests such as progressive matrices.
Literally says that in the article.
Hudson Hernandez
I didn't save a source, because I don't care (maybe that user has one?), but I have read it somewhere that African immigrants to the US tend to do slightly better than natives. This doesn't contradict the theory of race and IQ in anyway, this is simply a result of selective immigration policies (IQ follows a normal distribution, not every nigger is stupid)
Do you have difficulty following what fallacies mean?
Landon Rogers
That's retarded. You could also compare niggers in Britain to those in America and come up with a similar result of higher income but there exists obvious bias which needs to be taken into account.
Mason Moore
The first post you replied to was valid criticism. If you pick the absolute best sample and then use that sample to make evaluations on all potential samples, what you are doing is, at the very best, cherrypicking data. Anyone can pick an intelligent European country and then say that them being smart means all Europeans have an IQ of 120.
Isaiah Nelson
And where is you argument to sustain that? It's recognized as a science thus is one. I personally think Psychiatry is not true medicine because its heavily based on empirical evidence and the diagnoses to be included in the DSM are voted to existence, but it is recognize as medicine none the less.
>Gene-environment covaries is a problem because you can't draw conclusions about the relative importance of either factor in isolation. That conclusion is in no way valid, go look up the definition of heritability >Well, the author shows that more culturally loaded tests such as verbal ability are more cognitively demanding than more cognitively complex tests such as progressive matrices. The gaps remain even in "non-culturally loaded" tests. Did you not understand?
Furthermore, there is no bias in "culturally loaded" IQ tests. Predictive validity is exactly the same for blacks as it is for whites:
>If IQ tests painted non-Whites are being less intelligent than they actually are then they should under-predict how well non-Whites do in school and the work force. They do not (Kobrin, 2001; Cucina et al., 2016; Jensen, 1980). Moreover, if IQ tests are biased, there should be “bias” problems which are among the hardest problems for non-Whites but the easiest for Whites. Actually, Whites and non-Whites rank the difficulty of IQ tests items essentially identically (Jensen and McGurk, 1986; Reynolds and Suzuki, 2003). Further still, if IQ tests were really biased against non-Whites, you would expect Europeans to score the highest on them. They don’t, East Asians do (Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, 2012; Faulk, 2016A). In summary, the idea that IQ tests are culturally or racially biased makes several testable predictions and they have all been falsified.
Leo Wood
So what needs to happen to coax the hidden potential and intelligence out of the negro? How do we eliminate the savagery, the stupidity and the criminality and make them indistinguishable from whites?
For a start, most studies fail the replication test. Anyone anywhere in the world can test Ohms law and get the same results. Nobody can replicate the results in at least 2/3 of the peer reviewed studies published in supposedly respected academic journals in this field.
That user is arguing that sociology is not a science, not psychology. I use psychiatry as an example of a branch of medicine which I believe shouldn't be included but is included none the less.
Also, they did counter that study saying there were statistical errors in the replication intent. It's rubbish imo but they did counter it.
>How do we eliminate the savagery, the stupidity and the criminality and make them indistinguishable from whites?
well how about ending white supremacy and racism that holds the black down.
Jonathan Carter
Of course a white ethnostate is a valid concept that should be debated.
There's even fairly recent political research which shows via simulation that ethnocentrism eventually beats humanitarianism. (forgot the sauce)
Eli Ramirez
....But, but but Mah peer review, mah academic integrity...Academics plz respond!
David Scott
I'll sum up your shitshow for you: you take one study, where authors present their own completely unsupported assertions based on that study (while also outright rejecting hypothesis that they don't want to hear, with zero evidence), and then you claim that Alt-Hype is somehow wrong or dishonest for not addressing this. Dude this is embarrassing for you
>The conclusion is rubbish, though the found associations are not uninteresting. The basic problem is that the authors failed to demonstrate the construct validity of their measure of “cultural loading” as a measure of ‘dependency on prerequisite information for which the population is heterogeneous in its exposure to’ (from here on: heterogeneous load). They basically show that test dependency on cultural information correlates with g. (So tests that ask one to define “travesty” are more g-loaded than tests that ask one to say “7,5,3,8,1 backwards.) But they fail to establish the crucial link — needed for their conclusion — between cultural load and heterogeneous load. They merely assert that this link is likely. But their own findings can be read in support of the contrary conclusion. For example, the findings show that the magnitudes of differences between MZ twins reared in the same environment negatively correlate with cultural loadings. Since MZ twins reared together share the same rearing environment, the same genes, and the same prenatal environment, one would normally think that they only differ due to exposure to information. That is, one would normally take the differences in the correlations between MZ twins reared together as a perfect index of cultural load as they mean it (i.e., as heterogeneous load)!
1/2
Nathan Russell
2/2
>The evidence they present, then, can only provide evidence for their model if they assume their model in the first place to explain why, contrary to what one would expect, the magnitude of differences between MZ twins reared together negatively correlates with their supposed index of heterogeneity load. Since their cultural loadings negatively correlate with many presumably culturally induced effects e..g, the Flynn Effect, we suspect that it’s really not indexing what they contend that it is.
Dylan Diaz
when i was in school it was >social studies >not social sciences
Joshua Edwards
You've got to put the 2/3 unreplicable studies into context that 90% of the published studies in theses respected academic journals are filler material written by students and part-time associates placed in-between shit people actually care about, they receive very few reads and even less citations.
Isaiah Campbell
Eugenics is the only answer to that problem. If you were to kick 95% all Africans out of Zimbabwe and let only the smartest of them stay you'll have created a much more intelligent and less violent country.
Carter Anderson
>y-you just didn't read it right
Robert Morales
You're right I misread you, but why are you talking about Sociology? This material is Psychology. Whilst I haven't checked I'd wager Sociology is just as bad since most of the research seems to involve observing behaviour and making guesses. No two researchers would come to the same conclusions.
It doesn't make a difference in literal black ethnostates where there are no whites around to oppress them.
Then they shouldn't be published in academic journals. It makes a mockery of the discipline when most of the published material is indistinguishable from nonsense.
Caleb Jackson
>not being paid to teach Thank God they still keep some brainlets out of our school system and away from our kids
