One Piece 862

Ch. 862 Intellectual Type

Jinbe tries to wake Luffy up, but he isn't showing any sings of waking.
Everyone cheers as A gigantic wedding cake is brought out.
As Big Mom's children surround the Vinsmokes' seats, Reiju prepares herself to die.
As Luffy finally wakes and heads towards the venue, the ceremony has begun.
Katakuri is bewildered as he sees the future where Pudding breaks down crying.

When Pudding shows Sanji her third eye, Sanji tells her in an air of wonder, "It's a beautiful eye"
Pudding breaks down crying and recalls her childhood where her third eye was a source of bullying, and even Big Mom was creeped out, so she was told to hide it with her bangs. And it was due to these incidents that her personality began to become warped.

If Big Mom decides that Pudding is of no use, then she will signal Father to shoot Sanji.
Katakuri sees the future where Sanji dodges Father's shot, so he shoots at Sanji but Sanji avoids this shot by the skin of his teeth.

At the signal of Katakuri's shot, Luffy begins his entrance into the ceremony, and countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake.

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Pudding is CUTE and NAKAMA

SHs are going to take Pudding as a prisoner. Mark my words.

Pudding is literally DAT EVERYTHING

SaPu confirmed. SaNafaggots on suicide watch.

OFFICIALLY MARRIED

Congratulate the newlyweds.

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can't wait to see how big mom will chimp out. but how about the tamatebako though

>inb4 speedreaders thinking this comes out of nowhere

Will their marriage be consummated?

Only if they defeat Big Mom this arc which I doubt.

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Imagine being a SaNafag

Big Mom is definitely falling this arc considering the lenghts they went to to make it into a straight assasination attempt.

There's definitely a strong foundation (for this manga's standards for tragic heroines) for redemption here, yeah.

>Katakuri sees the future where Sanji dodges Father's shot, so he shoots at Sanji but Sanji avoids this shot by the skin of his teeth.

How come Katakuri didn't see Sanji avoiding his shot as well?

Because Sanji's CoO becomes even better

Because that future hasn't "happened" yet.
There's one universal future timeline, which he can see into. But whenever he tries to change it, another timeline branches out, which he cannot predict. At least that's how I suppose it works.

Yeah, I think that's how it works too

Katakuri had to have some limits, otherwise this whole plan would be already over.

Drinking game for tomorrow

Take a shot every time someone says "BTFO"

We'd be dead in 5 minutes

ho do we know that its not another made up shit?

Because we always have the real spoiler on wednesdays long before this time?

Because it came from the same source all the spoilers have been coming from for years.

Oda really cannot make a negative female character holy shit, they always have some shit to redeem themselves

because we are not newfags just like you

>Luffy begins his entrance into the ceremony, and countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake.

i guess that's funny, i think the execution will be what makes or breaks it though

Pudding will redeem himself but as a result will never unlock her full potential and stay unable to read poneglyphs

But he already made Nami.

People still read this fucking trash?

Alvida?

Not that the Straw Hats need her to read them anyway. They have Robin, and Luffy is all but confirmed to have the same ability as Roger which allowed him to understand the poneglyphs without actually being able to read them.

Kalifa.

She might unlock it later on so that Momonosuke can have a ponegylphs teacher or something

Also Sugar, just recently.
Let's be honest, Pudding is still evil, her character's just being given some extra dimension with her tearing up in self-pity. Which is good, because Kalifa and Sugar were boring af

There was CP9 cover arc where they sorta redeemed themselves, wasn't there?

works for government, not really evil
not a big distusting pig anymore and haven't been bad since

She wouldn't be able to read them either, would she? With Ohara and Momonopiske's parents gone, only Robin can actually read/write the ancient language now.

Odas desire to portray Nobles as terrible people is stronger than his desire to portray pretty women as likable and 'good'

Considering it seems at least some of them are now part of CP0 it probably means it wasn't true redemption

Monet

sana shippers btfo

>sacrifices herself for doffy

A GOOD GIRL

What about Big Mom?

Most male characters get some sort of redemption too
Right and Wrong being subjective has been a theme in One Piece more than once
The world isn't black and white

This. Even Caribou got redeemed.

oda redeems most male characters as well. theres just fewer female villains, but here are some from the top of my head

monet
sugar
the nobles

already have the Mother Carmel backstory ready for her

I bet BM will also have some sort of sob story featuring Mother Whatsherface.

Sacrificing yourself for someone even worse than you is hardly a redeeming factor

Wait, why are you mentioning Kalifa. What does she, Sugar, and Pudding have in common aside from being females part o the villain crew?

And what about Sugar?
>Also Sugar, just recently.
What happened to her recently?

Caribou is best girl.

Will pudding die?

Caribou is nakama

The only reason why it's less noticeable is because male villains usually don't have overly dedicated fans (at least not here on Sup Forums) trying to prove the slightest sign of humane behavior makes them next nakama candidate.

If you take off her wedding veil.

Smoothie
Amande


And just for argument's sake. Males that get redeemed in some form.
>franky
>mr. 2
>mr. 3
>senor pink (his past)
>bellamy
>pekoms

Her third eye has the potential to do that.

sanji haki>

Damn, Puddingfags will come out of the woodwork in droves when the gets scanlated.

the third eye can reveal the messages like roger's ability but it's not the same as knowing the language

I thought the third eye supposed to act similar to being able to hear the voice of all things. I.e. not simply let you read anything, but rather understand the meaning of the message itself.

Doflamingo, Wapol...Everyone. It's just how it is. Everyone has his past and his reasons. It's true irl too. But having suffered and showing some kind of kidness sometimes doesn't meam you aren't an evil piece of shit.

Will Pudding finally use the kikoho and die for Sanji? That will shut the Pudding haters

Doflamingo's past didn't make him any more redeemable, though, it did explain why he turned out the way he is but we simultaneously learned his brother turned out just fine.

Doffy's past did absolutely nothing to redeem him, quite the contrary, it showed why he is a monster.

The worst offender was Charloss, ugly people are rotten to the core.

She's a big girl.

Buggy and Croc to a degree, too

Pudding is the same shit as Robin.

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I don't understand what you mean then. Bellamy and Senor Pink haven't been redeemed. Senor is still a cold blooded monster. Doflamingo loves his friends and was really compassionate towards Baby 5, Buffalo, Diamante, Trebol even when they fucked up. Stil a monster.

No, when it was butto base time Doffy became a black & white character. Truly an irremedable monster that cares for nothing and no one but himself. Law stated that the family thing is a farce, no worries kids! You don't have to ponder anything! He was a mean guy and deserved everything.

ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?

Pudding redemption

Sanji confirmed for never doubting a woman's tears still unbroken

did the sanafag kill himself yet?

It's not true. He cared for his friends/crewmates. Still irredeemable piece of shit. Same goes for Senor Pink.

You can care about others and still be irredemable

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Trebol: we are a family! Officers and Doffy are on equal ground!
Law: only you think that! Doffy cares for no one but himself!

Law can't be lying. Oda has this thing of "bad guy about to get punched really hard? Gotta make him the biggest turd in the toilet so we can party with no guilt.".

Actually Senor is nowhere near as evil as doffy, so he doesnt need to be redeemed. His entire fight with Franky showed that he was a thug choosing the wrong side and not a villian.

Why Katakuri doesn't see himself shooting at Sanji to begin with?

Because him being aware of the future already changes it

You mean dogtooth.

There is Big Mom herself.

As I saw it, he was set up as the "charismatic villain"-type. Not a good person by any means, but that wasn't what his most loyal followers wanted from him. They wanted him to be the evillest son of a bitch he could be and they wanted him to lead them.

There's certainly a degree of affection and attachment for his "family", but everything ultimately revolves around him. Hence the flashback to his past. At heart, he's still just like all the other World Nobles, it's just that he's gotten a large attachment to the concept of "family". Even when he brought back his father's head to the other WN, they still wouldn't take him back. So his concept of family has been narrowed down to only include those who are loyal to him. Extremely self-centered, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have ANY feelings. Just that his feelings are wholly dependent upon how much the others are willing to give up for him. A selfish kind of camaraderie.

Yeah, ok. Murdering people left and right to steal their shit doesn't make you a villain. Even parenthood, love or the death of his wife bc of his behavior din't make him change his path.

This. Oda's a beta.

Seeing how Jinbe joined and Carrot has thousand nakamaflags, I assume Carrot will join instead of Pudding while Pudding takes over WCI and be something like Sanji's distant lover until he returns to her. That would probably lead to a lot of jokes of Sanji thinking that some woman is really hot and then hating himself because he has pudding already.

It would be too much if three people joined the crew in one arc.

It was a nice view but I doubt Oda thinks that far. I meam, he thinks that 2 wrongs make a right.

Evil cute girl has a sad side

No girls are fully evil in the pirate world.

It is always the fault of someone else.

Dindu nuffin

Afh.

Being a living dictionary is very useful to learn a language

>Yeah, ok. Murdering people left and right to steal their shit doesn't make you a villain.
When did Senor kill anyone in Dressrosa? Even when he thought he defeated Franky, he didn't actually make sure to kill him. Dragon probably killed some dudes too, so what?

>sugar: abandoned and jus repaying my saviour
>rest: ugly who gives a shit about fuggos

Next?

Unless you're a World Noble. Or married to a villain like a certain rich toy mogul.

Being able to see into the future is just the lamest thing possible and it always ends the same way where he just isnt able to predict when someone goes full retard.
Oda pls.

Good thing Katanacurry is a nobody

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did w get any backstory on Sugar? I didn't even know that happened. I even just looked up her wiki page right now and found out that she was Monet's sister. Where did all this information come from? The SBS?

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Read the arc again maybe. He's murdering people to steal from them with his gang. His wife and love of his live die because she hates that. Even the remorses don't make him stop with his bullshit.