There's no way these people are actually serious, right? Red pill me on this shit because it never ends

There's no way these people are actually serious, right? Red pill me on this shit because it never ends.

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retards who worshipped the cheiftan and his majic weather stick have always been a thing.

just laugh at them

>Pay a carbon tax, Goyim!
>Make more shit illegal, Goyim!
>It's (((once again))) for your own good, Goyim!

Inslee isnt "people"

I remember getting called an uneducated retard for not believing THE FACTS AND SETTLED SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS when I asserted that NY wouldn't be underwater by 2015. I feel like I'm owed very many apologies for this but honestly those faggots getting continually duped to panicking for the rest of their sad lives feels comfy enough

Yes, you dumb goys... unite the entire world under Satanic one-world government in order to usher in the end-times, hehehehehehe!

JUST DO IT YOU DUMB GOYS, SAVE THE CLIMATE

If you pump millions of tons of gas into an closed system, it will affect that system. Like farting under a doona.

hey that's my governor

>clear science
>models constantly wrong

Man made climate change is a politically motivated tool and is not supported by science.

heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/CCR/CCR-II/Summary-for-Policymakers.pdf

There is no catastrophic warming trend endangering humanity and the world.

heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/CCR/CCR-IIb/Summary-for-Policymakers.pdf

We should be concerned about over fishing and deforestation and pollution which all have measurable impacts on people but NOT the climate.

Climate change is a plan to force western countries to take in "climate refugees" by convincing the western countries they are responsible for the plight of these these refugees.

>Earth has not warmed significantly for the past 16 years
What kind of person would just go on the internet and lie like that

>If you pump millions of tons of gas into an closed system, it will affect that system. Like farting under a doona.

True, but will it kill us, or will be adapt to it?

Humanity was born in the depths of an Ice Age when the entire planet was stuck in a glacier dominated winter where the current temperatures we're experiencing now would've been extremely common back then. But the temperatures got very warm, all the glaciers melted and retreated to the poles, and now we're thriving better than we have ever been.

If the most catastrophic version of climate change happens, we will go back to the hothouse Earth where we had enormous dinosaurs and trees the size of houses. I think humanity is perfectly capable of thriving in such conditions. At least it's certainly better than plunging into another Ice Age.

Scientists raised CC alarm in the 80s

Why is it a conspiracy to try and keep
Pollution from harming us

>We should be concerned about over fishing and deforestation and pollution which all have measurable impacts on people but NOT the climate.
What we should be concerned about is too many browns, which will cause all sorts of overconsumption issues, as we approach the carrying capacity of the planet. Brown's need to be forced into Western countries living conditions to drop their body rate, or left alone to increase their death rate, to reduce population growth.

the coming ice age will silence them all

>All the """"""solutions""""" are unaffordable and basically for yuppies to feel better about themselves for being swindled

>True, but will it kill us, or will be adapt to it?
In a thread about whether climate change is man made, this is a pretty poor attempt to shift goal posts.

It's also the only thing climate scientists should be concerned with. An increase in CO2 must lead to an increase in greenery, which doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.

it's all a scheme to enact a global carbon tax, which will be used to fund the global goverment

>a graph can never be falsified in anyway

your graph shows "temperature anomaly" not temperature you retard

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Here.

Did I hear something, around the time of the new head of the EPA was appointed, that the new head wanted televised debates on Global Warming?

Climate change exists. Humans do contribute to it. It isn't remotely as bad as everyone claims and there isn't much we can do to fix it anyways. Don't worry about it.

Science has become a satanic cult at this point. Dont trust it, they said wed have to wear air tanks by now in the 80s.

Oh shit, are you telling me the temperature last year wasn't 1 degree Celsius? This is shocking news. Scientists have lied to me. I'm going to quit my job and become white trash, since it has made you do wise.

Incoming copypasta:

Yes, climate changes. But there is absolutely no evidence that humans are having any impact on the climate whatsoever. In order to establish an actual human impact in a statistically significant way, you must show a modern trend that deviates from a baseline of appropriate duration. Because geologic processes spanning millions of years are responsible for tremendous amounts of variation in global temperatures, an appropriate baseline must necessarily include millions of years of data to account for this variation. Not only are we not in a period of “record high temperatures,” we are in one of the coldest periods in the past 65 million years.

i.imgur.com/kcQnmYF.png

There is absolutely no evidence that current temperatures are outside the trend of totally natural variation, and all attempts to make it appear that way are misleading you by truncating the data to a sample of statistically insignificant size. And then they apply their misleading, exponential curve-fits and smoothing effects for dramatic purposes. The earth had had ice caps for maybe about half of the time over the past 500 million years. The picture shows rapid periods of melting and re-glaciation over periods of a few thousand years. There is nothing abnormal about current melting rates.

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The sea level has been rising at a very steady and predictable rate over the past 8-10,000 years since the emergence from the last major glacial period with no deviation at all from this trend even as humans began industrializing. When environmentalists show you graphs going back 50-100 years of rising sea level data, they omit the fact that this is both on-trend and completely expected.

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This climate change shit has morphed into a cult. I always assumed it was a ploy to make $$ but now I just don't know

They should commit a mass ritual suicide to save the planet

This. The antichrist is already here and there usimg weather control to make storms to simulate runaway climate change.he just hasnt been revealed yet.

We have no actual data that indicates that climate is in any way behaving abnormally, much less due to human impact. The only thing we have is a hypothesis that CO2 affects climate in a meaningful way, which is what climatologists attempt to model. But those models make terrible predictions.

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If your hypothesis consistently churns out inaccurate predictions–no matter how many times you tweak the knobs and change little fudge-factors here and there–then your hypothesis is shit and must be discarded. Morons who believe in this garbage have no understanding of basic epistemology, let alone science–and that goes for the so-called “scientists” peddling this mystical bullshit.

CO2 is only hypothesized to have the impact on global climate that the alarmists claim. But this has failed to be demonstrated in two major (but related) ways. First, carbon dioxide levels are currently being measured at several hundred ppm higher than measured from ice core samples. Now, it must also be cautioned that you can’t necessarily compare these two sets of data because they represent two different methods of measurement, and have other potential biases. However, even assuming that its true that CO2 levels are much higher–and that they’re caused by human activity–current temperatures are not deviating from the normal historical trends in line with CO2.


A doubling of preindustrial CO2, absent any feedbacks, would result in a maximum forcing of +1.2 ºC. Everyone agrees on this point because it’s a simple computation given the physical characteristics of CO2 which is well mixed in the atmosphere. Actual warming, again absent feedbacks, would likely be much less due to bandwidth overlap between CO2 and H2O, something that we understand but find difficult to model (H2O levels vary dramatically day to day and even hour to hour with regional weather).

i.imgur.com/3JzLrS4.jpg

The General Circulation Models, and the IPCC, predict 2-8 ºC of warming because AGW theory assumes a positive H2O feedback. They assume that if CO2 causes a little warming, the atmosphere will hold more water vapor which will lead to a lot of warming until a new equilibrium point is reached. The warming predictions cover such a large range because everyone assumes a different average feedback rate. Again, modeling H2O in the atmosphere is extremely difficult because it varies so much with weather. Every GCM based on this assumption has failed to model temperatures for the past 15 years. They are all trending too high. In the late 1990s, the modelers themselves stated that if they missed their predictions for more then a decade that would falsify AGW theory.

There is no data to suggest a positive H2O feedback either now or in Earth’s past. Indeed, we cannot model some periods in Earth’s history with an assumed positive H2O feedback. It would appear that Earth’s atmosphere is remarkably adept at dampening forcings from either direction and does not amplify them. If there is no positive H2O feedback, we literally have nothing to worry about. The average climate change believer knows none of this. Politicians, citizens, activists, and surprisingly even a lot of scientists are literally ignorant of the theory and the math. In their mind, it’s simply “CO2 = bad” and “experts say we’re warming faster then ever.” The more you know.

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Not only are current temperatures not outside the normal trend, we are in one of the coldest periods in the past 65 million years. Also, current temperatures (at the peak of the current 100ky cycle) are actually lower than past 100ky cycles, meaning that we are expected to either warm further just by way of natural variation or we are in an unusually cold peak period.

Second, climate models that use CO2 as a major driver for global temperatures are not producing accurate predictions for global temperatures. This is at least good initial evidence that the alarmist stance on the CO2/climate hypothesis is false. Notice that current temperatures are in no way deviating from normal trends, and that the two “scary red dots” are not observed data, but “predictions.” But, as we already know, the observed data is wildly lower than the predictions. These people are completely full of shit.

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>We are all in this together. If we take care of the Earth, then the Earth will take care of us.
The Eternal Boomer.
How deluded can one generation be?
Does the Asiatic believe this as he strips his lands of all natural resources and expands outwards like a cancerous blight?
Does the Negroid believe this as he reproduces far above sustainable rates while actively destroying any semblance of civilization and, like the Asiatic, strips lands of natural resources then migrates to the next resource-rich area?

There is only one group that cares about sustainability, the European.
So no, you deluded fucking boomer, we are not all in this together. The duty of ensuring that our planet remains habitable falls solely on the shoulders of the sons of Europe.

I loved that movie

>Pay us taxes or the world will end

Fuck off.

Global warming alarmists are a cult not much different than Scientology. Counter arguments are mocked not rebuked. Also, climategate showed us the emails of all the data being manipulated and not hiring anyone who wasn't on board with providing the desired result. All it is is a vehicle to global government being funded and their ability to dictate which country gets industry and when.

If JayInslee doesn't support nuclear energy, then he's a faggot and has no argument about 'climate change'

But all the polar bears are going to die next year!!!!111!

I'm all for reducing pollution of the planet & resources with synthetic chemicals and waste. And for creating efficient technology that can use renewable or small amounts of fuel.
However, when they continually change the language, move the goalposts, and screech about consensus and constructed statistics, it makes me very wary of anything they suggest, especially when they try to influence countries and economies.

climate change is real i.e. ice age
man made climate change is debatable no one really knows the answer yet

Its another scam to get refugees to europe and america

I would go further and say our contributions are largely unknown and certainly not known if the contributions are "bad." A few degrees warmer in temp would increase global agriculture. Definitely fewer "starving kids in Africa." This is usually my go-to when some lib starts arguin feels about CC. "Why do you insist on literally starving the 3rd world."

Fucking this. Humanity was created at the end of an ice age. If the climate is changing, the world were used to is actually not normal, and earth is reverting to its natural state of being a super hot jungle world. We are still technically in an ice age, its just starting to end.

>preach about global warming
>change the name to climate change because it turns out your theory is not correct
>spent trillions of dollars on fighting the change of a climate
>a single powerful volcano inevitably erupts like they did systematically in the history and causes globabl temperatures to drop to -30 C
>all that money went down the drain
>wonders of socialism

When we can inhabit other planets do we genocide them for the good of the planet or do we just leave them to suffer?

This is one of those hinges that I can’t take them seriously. Like they complain and say this will be the end of the world, and we need to give them all of our money. The Paris climate accord was like a .5 degree celcius change by 2100, as if that’s going to hack shit after spending trillions of dollars. If this is the end all be all, then they would need to be take desperate measures. Martial laws, genociding people, population limiting, but it’s not. Just seems like another big scary thing made up by (((them))) to get everyone afraid so we give them our shekels. Also, the fact the models and things keep changing, and all their predictions are wrong is a little concerning, I understand getting new information and data so many the theories change, but again, how much is actually based in science and how much is actually propaganda and agenda pushing? I’m going to go with it being much more of the latter.

LMAO my dude, you are posting a graph with barely 100 years of readings on it. Post some isotope charts showing 500-5,000 years of global temperature variation.

The global temperature varies WILDLY and has throughout the entire time the planet has existed. You know our planet never even had polar caps until 25 million years ago? you know how recent that is?

Do you know that people were farming GREENLAND and growing grapes all over england a thousand years ago during the medieval warming period? Any fluctuations we are seeing is well within the normal range of climate change you see for thousands of years. If you put our temps on a graph of 10,000 years they would not even be visible.

If you truncate the data down like that you can get a grow showing anything you want. Fuck it, truncate it down from 2013 (when it was cooling) and break it down by month till now and you will see a nice graph with a HUGE FUCKING spike in it.

Climate is a slow process that bounces back and forth to warming and cooling over hundreds of years my man, there is literally nothing abnormal.

Now let me suspend disbelief and say we ARE causing a warming trend. Do you know how GOOD that is? Do you know how much life of ALL kinds flourishes with more CO2 in the atmosphere? Go look at the biomass millions of years ago when we had double the CO2 we have now. If the earth is entering a long term cooling phase (which according to solar activity we should be though it will take decades) and CO2 production is in some way slowing that, we should thanking our stars because the damage a cooling trend would have on our ability to feed 7 billion people would be truly apocalyptic.

All of us together? Lol, it will be a hell of a pity party. Ask the chicken littles what they would be willing to give up today, even if nobody else gave anything up. When they act surprised, say: I knew you weren't that worried. You can start walking your own talk at any time. What are you going to do, have the government thugs kill me for using modern technology?

Some other great taunts that strip the smug out of the white self haters are: Why do you keep feeding poor people with EBT and other forms of government welfare if you claim that over consumption of resources is a problem? Are you too afraid to even discuss real solutions to the problem? Are the answers too likely to cause a revolt by the lower classes? Why have you not gone back to the stone age or whatever more primitive age you want, already? Are you waiting for everyone to go there with you so you won't be lonely?

What you will find in all the "sky is falling," propaganda is a lack walking ones own talk. It will be a rare person who advocates this that has also lived a low technology lifestyle. They won't have shivered through a winter without heat or sweated through a summer with no AC. They will still drive several cars/work trucks with awful mileage. You have to grill the alarmists on what they actually do about the issue themselves. It is especially fun to use on rich, white, self hating, ex hippies. Those people don't walk their talk on anything.

Planets which are habitable for humans are very likely a rare and precious resource. A precious resource that should not be squandered by giving it to those who would destroy it.

>If this is the end all be all, then they would need to be take desperate measures. Martial laws, genociding people, population limiting, but it’s not.
Don't forget we need to keep dumping money onto poor countries so they can continue to multiply like rabbits.
And give them money and technology so they can be developing regions of billions of people using up fuels and releasing CO2.

>coastal faggots hardest hit
:^)

Hopefully the second co ing happens first, but the aliens wouldnt be able to handle our diseases and they would die off in droves while we develop vaccines. The ones that survive would wind up like indians on reservations today. Thats assuming we take over a pri itive planet like avatar

True that, but I want them to understand that they are shit, incapable of civilized life, and the state of the world is their fault for antagonizing the group that kept them alive
Then we can burn them off the face of the earth

Unga Bunga.
Throw Virgin Male into Volcano.
Appease Climate God.
Mahalu Malu Okinawa Bwana Hasta Manana

Why are they personifying Climate Change? Are they going to introduce it as a new heel character, an actual, physical Bogeyman?

>Do you know that people were farming GREENLAND and growing grapes all over england a thousand years ago during the medieval warming period?
Vast areas in Canada and Siberia under permafrost could be arable. And while I'm not sure about the effects of ocean acidification vs plant production in increased CO2, there has always been constant adaptation occurring all the time, and humans trying to keep the earth at the exact same parameters it has been since we started measuring things is not going to happen.

For a NWO to work, to unify the people, they need to give people a common enemy. The climate is that enemy.

I just dont understand the argument. If we stopped producing CO2 entirely do people think we would then be cooling? or that the temperature would just stay the same and not change? Historically warming trends see massive expansion and growth of civilizations and booms in population worldwide. Cooling trends see the collapse of civilizations, massive migration which leads to war and famine.

No according to the bible it will be christians once the (((antichrist))) shows up.

>but the aliens wouldnt be able to handle our diseases
I too have watched War of the Worlds.

>The ones that survive would wind up like indians on reservations today.
Hopefully not. I would hope that the next time Manifest Destiny invigorates our soul, we would remember the lessons of the past and mercy-kill all remaining survivors of the conquered people.

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Its true tho it happpened to the prairie nigs

>everything is fine nothing to see here

t. shill

We must eliminate the over-populating Africans, Indians, and Chinese to secure the existence of the human race. To become the most progressive feminist male possible you must defend mother nature from these cancers. I'm with her. Are you?

>heartland

follow the money right?
exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

Heartland Institute has received $676,500 from ExxonMobil since 1998.


All of these claims are crap.

I'll choose a few of the worst
>doubling CO2 would cause a max of 1.1 degrees of warming
The last 2 years have been above that compared to preindustrial

>CO2 starved world
CO2 hasn't been 400ppm since the fucking Pliocene. Most life today will have evolved during the Pleistocene with CO2 levels between 280 and 180ppm

>Earth hasn't warmed
2015-2017 3 hottest years. Rate of warming going up every decade

>CO2 is good for plants
Wildfires, drought, salinity etc aren't. Also, the limiting factor to plant growth tends to be nitrogen

>Blames the sun
Pic related, solar activity is steady

>Next few decades marked by cooling due to low solar activity
Crap. Maybe reduces the warming by 0.3 degrees at most
pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Journals/feulner_rahmstorf_2010.pdf

>CO2 is not a pollutant
nature.com/nature/journal/v510/n7503/full/nature13179.html?foxtrotcallback=true
CO2 makes crops less nutritious
ehp.niehs.nih.gov/15-10037/
CO2 is bad for human health and affects cognition at 950ppm, which is the end of century BAU estimate (which heartland want to happen)

>No risk of food insecurity
Again, Nitrogen limits crop yields
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017GL075981/abstract
The spread of pests due to expanded ranges, sea level rise, and heat stress will easily make up for any small gains from increased CO2

>CO2 doesn't threaten aquatic life
geo.uni-bremen.de/geochronologie/PDF/Scheibner and Speijer 2008ESR.pdf
During the PETM acidification of the ocean was terrible for reefs (and was 10 times slower than today)
science.sciencemag.org/content/348/6231/229
During the End Permian acidification drove extinction

Having taught non-whites for several years I can assure you that they "understand" very little and such an endeavor would be a massive waste of time. A far more satisfying endeavor would be to answer the question:
How many days does it take to forget a people after they're gone?
In the case of non-whites, I'd wager less than 180.

A volcano will burn us into an ice age.

>GUYS CLIMATE AND WEATHER ARE DIFFERENT
>IT'S COLD IN NEW YORK SO ALL WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS "CLIMATE"
lol

This is probably one of the best arguments against climate change I have ever heard.
youtu.be/NjlC02NsIt0

Alt-right triggered again

FUCK FACTS #MAGA

>an increase in greenery

Theres no greenery left after it all gets cut down by the massive population increases

jesus. its like a cult

Good thing I don't live near the water, in a democrat-voting, nigger-filled, fully kike-demoralized, shithole. I WISH Poseidon would take these shitholes back.

This right here.

it's funny how literally none of those fuckers talk about China or India. I wonder how dirty the planet will become when they step up their game up to at least Japan in pic related.

Sadducees need a new religion and this is the best thing they’ve got going right now.

We should find a way to oppose the SJW cult to the AGW cult and have them excommunicate each other and start a religious holy war of extermination on one another

Should try something like distributing survey result about how whites are the only ones who care enough about not murdering gaia with deadly “carbon dioxide” poison

There are two real threats to the human species as a whole
Severe climate change and nuclear war
Libcucks will always exaggerate how bad things are with regards to both, but if you care about future generations we should at least take climate change policy seriously

They're international socialist misanthropes.
Using the euphemism 'global climate change' allows them to plan and organize out in the open without drawing too much notice.

OMG MIAMI IS DOOMED BY 2010

OMG IF THE SEA LEVELS RISE 3 FEET MILLIONS WILL DIE DIKES ARE IMPOSSIBLE BUILD

>The last 2 years
>2015-2017 3 hottest years
So you have 3 years? you're making opinions off 3 years when the climate varies wildly over hundreds of years?
>CO2 hasn't been 400ppm since the fucking Pliocene
Yeah the PPM CO2 was double what it is now and guess what? Plants thrived, animals thrived, life thrived. Do you know why? PLANTS BREATHE FUCKING CO2. Its LITERALLY plant food.

>Wildfires, drought, salinity etc aren't.
All of which have NOTHING to do with CO2 and emissions.

>Pic related, solar activity is steady
Your graph doesnt even show half of one solar cycle.
phys.org/news/2017-06-solar-minimum.html

>Maybe reduces the warming by 0.3 degrees at most
Do you know what we call a reduction in warming? Cooling.

>CO2 is not a pollutant
Bro....Plants will die without CO2 its as important as water and sunlight.

>CO2 is bad for human health and affects cognition at 950ppm
Yeah no shit. Thats why I dont live in Mexico City or China. POLLUTION IS BAD FOR PEOPLE because no modern western country has PPM anywhere near that.

>Again, Nitrogen limits crop yields
climatedepot.com/2017/12/01/2017-sets-new-record-for-global-food-production/
We have been having record yields in food production for years.

Again, its simple. Look at long term climate trends and the NATURAL variability of the earths climate. The warming we saw in the 80s and 90s is well within the natural variability of what we would EXPECT our climate to do. There is no climate crisis, the climate changes, thats what it does and if its warming. Humans have had an incredibly stable period and as long as the climate is stable or warming, we should be thankful. Cooling is the real fear.

i was told in elementary school that long island would be underwater by now
needless to say i'm disappointed, this place sucks

The red pill here is, these talking geads always spoit on about climate change deniers and how we all will die, it is the end of the world etx.
But what is their solution?
If you ask anyone talking about climate change, they don't have a solution.

The politicians do: taxes, more power to the state and corporatocracy.
This is always their solution because it is what they want you to give them, a blank check of power.

A real climate change solution would be to plant hemp and trees in all available public lands and get everyone else to do it.
Currently the understood cause of climate change is CO2, plants consume CO2, if we took the money we were going to put into climate change accords and instead planted, we would reduce CO2, pollution and green house gasses significantly more.

Climate change is a joke. The West has invested only $20 Billion into the ITER project in France even though it's our best shot at reducing emissions. Look at how much the NATO bloc and friends put into the F-35 project by comparison? $1.5 Trillion. Nuclear energy has been halted by (((Communist))) Greens in every Western nation despite its track record here (Even Fukushima contamination to the surrounding land was overstated). "Renewable" energy meanwhile ravages the earth for heavy metals and makes foreign nations willing to poison their people very wealthy.

I was more than willing to "buy into" Climate change. Still am. But if you're not willing to actually implement the raw, brutal, authoritarian, UNPLEASANT hard consequences of actually averting a climate disaster, such as mandatory busing, no drive days, increased car prices, car permits, etc, and suffer the economic hits of such policies, as well as buttfucking the Greens without lube and building nuclear reactors and funding advanced energy projects as matters of national security, then you clearly have more confidence in the economy solving shit than you do through emissions reductions.

And if all of this is true, why are we not speaking frankly about what the population booms in the third world mean for global emissions and the loss of uncultivated land? Fucking what? Are you fucking serious? It's already this bad with a quasi-industrialized northern hemisphere and "stagnant"/ Stable populations, and now you're saying they need *more* people, both there and on Earth in total?

The West could have sealed its borders and been carbon neutral in under 30 years. Climate change is a fucking scam.

Downside: Methane releases could be pretty bad too. Have to wait and see I guess.

One thing I never understood is why did the climate change deniers decide to die on the anti-science hill? They would've had a much stronger argument in doing nothing by shrugging and saying that the two biggest polluters in all societies is traffic and indusry, so theres really not much you can do to prevent climate change, only prepare for the consequences.

>become white trash

too late. you're already australian

They didn't.

Public discourse is so fucked that potential opponents were herded onto a rhetorical hill without realizing it, and then anchored to emotional rhetoric so they wouldn't get off of it or suggest something intelligent like "Practical solutions and hard sacrifices".

Instead of rubbing "progressives" noses in the "SCIENCE!" and forcing them to give up their ridiculous decadent lifestyles full of cheap electronic goods shipped from China on monstrously pollutive freight haulers (go look up the grade of fuel they use; it's practically crude and the exhaust is exactly what you expect it to be), and demanding they shut down these destructive free-trade programs that have increased international shipping...

They were convinced to act like fucking retards and not vaccinate their kids.

lol, your graph is a fraud (especially when looking at the spike since 2000)

Try and find a similar 0.3 degree spike in the temperature anomaly in either the RSS or UAH satellite temperature data sets, or in NASA's own record (HADCRUT or BEST, for that matter) before Karl et. al. 2015 "magically" found more warming by discarding good ocean data for shitty contaminated ocean data.

They don't interact with proles and living expenses, and generally have cushy lives. So it takes an armegeddon inducing boogeyman or money pumped greater good sob story to fellate their ego into a sense of urgency to do something.

So long as it makes them feel good about their superiority, of course.

Work together?
Are they going to burn tires with me?

Lmao climate change isn't real just let me pour a few hundred billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere per year it won't do anything haha

B-BUT MY TIME SHARE RENTALS???

Jewish Money Scam to tax the world for nothing.

Burn all Jews, save the Earth.