I was wondering what each race in LotR corresponds to in real-life. I couldn't come up with one for the Orcs though, they seemed to correspond to no real-world culture. Near Harad is for sandniggers, Far Harad is for niggers and Rhun is for chinks, but who are the Orcs then?
Then it finally struck me, Orcs are the Americans. Orcs are a bastardized version of Elves who have been racially destroyed and mongrelized by Sauron (the Jews). The Orcs are the fighting arm of Sauron and his Dark Apprentices, just like in real-life Americans are the fighting arm of the Jews and used to crush any nationalist states such as Nazi Germany.
What does Sup Forums think of this? Also general Sup Forums LotR thread I guess.
Ayden Gonzalez
rohan is americans because we always get asked to save europe when war strikes.
Nathan Long
I heard Saruman is supposed to be Nixon
Easton Rivera
You would think a brit would know that Tolkein never based races off of any real life race.
Cameron Ramirez
No, it's the other way around, you're the ones who destroy Europe.
Hudson Russell
Lurk more. Sage. Shame.
Samuel Martinez
no, orks are pure blooded niggers, urukia are american niggers
Isaiah Clark
Orc lives matter. Let the orcs in.
Owen Thompson
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Landon Robinson
LMAO!
Andrew Sullivan
Name one time
Hudson Rodriguez
WW2
Brayden Green
this, the britbong didnt have any original ideas, amermutts being orcs have been a meme for a hile
Mason Ortiz
The Eagles are America. Nice b8 though.
Zachary Adams
>All the good fair races live in the North >All the evil dark races live in the South user I- The entire thing is symbology. That's all myth is. Just like scifi is used to talk about morality so is fantasy. That's the point of it. Like how only the jester can tell the truth at court. I always thought Orcs were nigs but just think about the Urukhai Sarumon's new specially bred race of ultra kang orcs. They literally could be Amerimutts I wish Tolkien was still alive and a shit poster we could ask him.
David Diaz
I think Orcs were supposed to represent bongs actually.
Samuel Bell
This seems to fit. The regular Orcs are coming from down South but Sarumon has been breeding his race of super Orcs right in the middle of the Good Kingdoms under their very noses in secret. Plus the mass industry and clear cutting memes sounds like American Expansionism. Tolkien 7woke9me.
Levi Ramirez
Possibly Europe as a whole, but definitely bongs
Eli Morales
The eagles were the WW1 Americans >their lands were far up high, away from the conflict >their lives would remain fairly unchanged regardless of who controlled middle earth >only near the end of the war do the eagles fly in to fuck shit up
Jose Lee
>helped start WW2 by abandoning Poland >tried to play both sides like a Jew and got shoah'd >blames the country that wasn't involved until we needed to send you shit
Jason Wood
I thought we hardly did anything in WWII
Xavier Wilson
also look at your average african. they're short and skinny. the uruk are way taller and bigger due to not being full blooded orks, like american negroid.
Owen Brown
but all the orcs have english accents though.... they're actually you
Landon Fisher
>UK lies to Poland telling them they'll protect them so Poland goes all ass burgers on the Germans in their territory. >UK abaondons France to be raped yet refuses to surrender or make peace with Germany >UK demands children gib them help getting our shipping sunk to defend their ass Mate if you'd have just made peace after Dunkirk the world would be a lot more comfy right now. Didn't you start ww1 over the Germans trying to build an oil pipeline and bypass your shipping? If I'm an Urukhai then you're Sarumon living in London counting his shekels. laughing.
Jason Carter
UK flags just project their failed empire. They try to blame everything on Americans. Even if accept that everything wrong with the UK is America's fault (it isn't) that would mean the UK is so pathetic they didn't do anything to stop an outside entity from destroying their country.
In reality they voted for everything wrong with their nation. They are a pathetic people and they have no hope.
Michael Fisher
No race in LOTR corresponds to anything in real life except humans. If you read the preface to LOTR by Tolkein himself you would know that he vehemently denied any metaphorical connection between his works and our real world, such as the War of the Ring being World War II.
Go drink some tea.
Owen Bell
Tolkien explicitly stated that he hates allegory. LotR is not allegorical. It's high fantasy.
Colton Baker
No, that would be Germany.
Ryder Nguyen
orcs were created in the first age by Morgoth not Sauron they represent how he wanted the elves to be so don't correlate to any races of men
Ayden Ross
WW1
what the fuck where you interfereing in european affairs. there was a nice healthy deadlock between the powers until you mutts though mostly from german descent fought for the eternal anglos side. without mutts there was a balance of power and the war would have run empty at one point as it was looking to do so...all the rest that came after especially WW2 was because of this unbelievable shit.
>muh evil huns invaded lelgium
so fucking what. it's not as if the brits were known to keep the rules of engagement (see piracy against spain)
the german reich printed in the nyt a page warning anyone to embark on ships to brittain, for they are used as weapon supply ships. germans sink lusitania >ebil german divers nowadays found the ship was full to the brim of munitions. your government lurded you into another war...yay
Matthew Fisher
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Ayden Lopez
Nah. Orcs are definitely British. Look at those teeth.
Benjamin Hill
>lol amerimutt That's a hate crime. Enjoy prison, Euromoor.
Easton Allen
Melkor cannot create. Melkor stole a bunch of stupid elves and corrupted them into the orcs.
Melkor is Marxism.
Kayden Baker
>Orcs aren't blatantly obvious niggers What the fuck? How can you not see this? Also, Tolken claims to never have used allegory as a means to tell a story.
Thomas Morris
Germans=Elves Anglos=Orcs Middle-Earth=Mainland Europe Britain=Mordor
Anglo-Saxons turned into orcs when they became too inbred.
Bentley Richardson
The entire series is an allegory for western mythology and history where we killed invading armies of shitskins constantly.
Matthew Richardson
takes a elf, corrupts it into an orc creates a race creates the dragons creates trolls >Melkor cannot create!!!! eat a sandwich, create a shit
Morgoth is mankinds need to destroy nature and replace it with modern civilization which was the basis for tolkins whole fantasy world
Aaron Gonzalez
Except the books were written before WW2 you morons
Nicholas Bennett
It's possible that he subconsciously did this, but he most certainly did not outwardly intend it.
Austin Fisher
>And they won't shut up about how degenerate our TV Quick rundown bongs: we don't have anything this horrible. Even our porn is less graphic then this. 3 seconds in. Even the nig is like WTF is happening? He's trying to play it cool and act like the alpha chimp badass but this is too much even for him I believe.
Ryan Smith
i have heard that the black speech is based on turkish but i don't know how accurate that is
ours guys like to roleplay as isengard online though
Noah Stewart
>That's not how thoughts work sweety. You can tell me you created a story whole cloth out of nothing but you'd be a liar. Any story you create would be a product of your environment and teaching and culture. Tolkien can say whatever he wanted to. Just like John Carpenters screeches that They Live has nothing to do with the jews. It doesn't even matter if he meant it to be about them allegories and tropes are eternal.
Nathan Walker
Orcs are muzzies
Kayden Thomas
>Lord of the Rings fuck off to reddit you manchild
Jack Brooks
Tolkien said his story was not allegorical in any way. So the Orcs were meant to be corrupted Elves.
Samuel Bell
It doesn't matter what he meant to do. Those images and stories and narrative was burnt into his DNA. There are universal truths.
Oliver Stewart
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Chase Taylor
The elves totally aren't meant to be white people either right? Perfect fair skinned creatures with peaceful nature loving societies? Dwarves are jews btw.
Lincoln Garcia
>with peaceful nature loving societies? >ideas for book written during ww1 are you retarded son?
Levi Butler
>backwards >repulsive >savage I think it was muslims but Idk
Carson Cruz
Pretty sure he J.R.R saw them as Turkish
Thomas Martinez
Numenor was America, bongistan. They moved into the new world out west away from middle Earth and closer to the gods.
Dwarves, elves, and orcs had no real-world basis. They were pure fantasy. The memes, like pic related, are just for laughs.
Gabriel Torres
he didn't create the dragons. he took lizards and corrupted them just as he took fire spirits and corrupted them into the balrogs.
I'm not actually sure if the trolls were corrupted by him or were always assholes.
Brayden Miller
No, Elves are meant to be the firstborn of Illuvatar who came to Middle Earth to either hunt down Morgoth or to get revenge on the Dark Elves for murdering a bunch of other Elves and stealing their ships.
Levi Moore
Orcs are legitimately niggers, per Tolkein's own notes.
Anthony Torres
>he vehemently denied any metaphorical connection between his works and our real world Not really true. For example the relationship between frodo and sam is that of officer and loww ranked soldier, from tolkien's experience in ww1
Jason Perez
Spot on mate
Jace Powell
The analogy works in so far as the assumption that Germany winning would've been bad for Europe.
Justin Cox
it doesn't map on reality because it's a fantasy world he invented for fun