Are LotR's Orcs meant to be Americans?

I was wondering what each race in LotR corresponds to in real-life. I couldn't come up with one for the Orcs though, they seemed to correspond to no real-world culture. Near Harad is for sandniggers, Far Harad is for niggers and Rhun is for chinks, but who are the Orcs then?

Then it finally struck me, Orcs are the Americans. Orcs are a bastardized version of Elves who have been racially destroyed and mongrelized by Sauron (the Jews). The Orcs are the fighting arm of Sauron and his Dark Apprentices, just like in real-life Americans are the fighting arm of the Jews and used to crush any nationalist states such as Nazi Germany.

What does Sup Forums think of this? Also general Sup Forums LotR thread I guess.

rohan is americans because we always get asked to save europe when war strikes.

I heard Saruman is supposed to be Nixon

You would think a brit would know that Tolkein never based races off of any real life race.

No, it's the other way around, you're the ones who destroy Europe.

Lurk more. Sage. Shame.

no, orks are pure blooded niggers, urukia are american niggers

Orc lives matter.
Let the orcs in.

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LMAO!

Name one time

WW2

this, the britbong didnt have any original ideas, amermutts being orcs have been a meme for a hile

The Eagles are America. Nice b8 though.

>All the good fair races live in the North
>All the evil dark races live in the South
user I-
The entire thing is symbology. That's all myth is. Just like scifi is used to talk about morality so is fantasy. That's the point of it. Like how only the jester can tell the truth at court. I always thought Orcs were nigs but just think about the Urukhai Sarumon's new specially bred race of ultra kang orcs. They literally could be Amerimutts I wish Tolkien was still alive and a shit poster we could ask him.

I think Orcs were supposed to represent bongs actually.

This seems to fit. The regular Orcs are coming from down South but Sarumon has been breeding his race of super Orcs right in the middle of the Good Kingdoms under their very noses in secret. Plus the mass industry and clear cutting memes sounds like American Expansionism. Tolkien 7woke9me.

Possibly Europe as a whole, but definitely bongs

The eagles were the WW1 Americans
>their lands were far up high, away from the conflict
>their lives would remain fairly unchanged regardless of who controlled middle earth
>only near the end of the war do the eagles fly in to fuck shit up

>helped start WW2 by abandoning Poland
>tried to play both sides like a Jew and got shoah'd
>blames the country that wasn't involved until we needed to send you shit

I thought we hardly did anything in WWII

also look at your average african. they're short and skinny. the uruk are way taller and bigger due to not being full blooded orks, like american negroid.

but all the orcs have english accents though.... they're actually you

>UK lies to Poland telling them they'll protect them so Poland goes all ass burgers on the Germans in their territory.
>UK abaondons France to be raped yet refuses to surrender or make peace with Germany
>UK demands children gib them help getting our shipping sunk to defend their ass
Mate if you'd have just made peace after Dunkirk the world would be a lot more comfy right now. Didn't you start ww1 over the Germans trying to build an oil pipeline and bypass your shipping? If I'm an Urukhai then you're Sarumon living in London counting his shekels. laughing.

UK flags just project their failed empire. They try to blame everything on Americans. Even if accept that everything wrong with the UK is America's fault (it isn't) that would mean the UK is so pathetic they didn't do anything to stop an outside entity from destroying their country.

In reality they voted for everything wrong with their nation. They are a pathetic people and they have no hope.

No race in LOTR corresponds to anything in real life except humans. If you read the preface to LOTR by Tolkein himself you would know that he vehemently denied any metaphorical connection between his works and our real world, such as the War of the Ring being World War II.

Go drink some tea.

Tolkien explicitly stated that he hates allegory.
LotR is not allegorical. It's high fantasy.

No, that would be Germany.

orcs were created in the first age by Morgoth not Sauron
they represent how he wanted the elves to be so don't correlate to any races of men

WW1

what the fuck where you interfereing in european affairs. there was a nice healthy deadlock between the powers until you mutts though mostly from german descent fought for the eternal anglos side.
without mutts there was a balance of power and the war would have run empty at one point as it was looking to do so...all the rest that came after especially WW2 was because of this unbelievable shit.

>muh evil huns invaded lelgium

so fucking what. it's not as if the brits were known to keep the rules of engagement (see piracy against spain)

the german reich printed in the nyt a page warning anyone to embark on ships to brittain, for they are used as weapon supply ships.
germans sink lusitania
>ebil german
divers nowadays found the ship was full to the brim of munitions.
your government lurded you into another war...yay

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Nah. Orcs are definitely British. Look at those teeth.

>lol amerimutt
That's a hate crime. Enjoy prison, Euromoor.

Melkor cannot create. Melkor stole a bunch of stupid elves and corrupted them into the orcs.

Melkor is Marxism.

>Orcs aren't blatantly obvious niggers
What the fuck? How can you not see this? Also, Tolken claims to never have used allegory as a means to tell a story.

Germans=Elves
Anglos=Orcs
Middle-Earth=Mainland Europe
Britain=Mordor

Anglo-Saxons turned into orcs when they became too inbred.

The entire series is an allegory for western mythology and history where we killed invading armies of shitskins constantly.

takes a elf, corrupts it into an orc creates a race
creates the dragons
creates trolls
>Melkor cannot create!!!!
eat a sandwich, create a shit

Morgoth is mankinds need to destroy nature and replace it with modern civilization
which was the basis for tolkins whole fantasy world

Except the books were written before WW2 you morons

It's possible that he subconsciously did this, but he most certainly did not outwardly intend it.

>And they won't shut up about how degenerate our TV
Quick rundown bongs: we don't have anything this horrible. Even our porn is less graphic then this. 3 seconds in. Even the nig is like WTF is happening? He's trying to play it cool and act like the alpha chimp badass but this is too much even for him I believe.

i have heard that the black speech is based on turkish but i don't know how accurate that is

ours guys like to roleplay as isengard online though

>That's not how thoughts work sweety.
You can tell me you created a story whole cloth out of nothing but you'd be a liar. Any story you create would be a product of your environment and teaching and culture. Tolkien can say whatever he wanted to. Just like John Carpenters screeches that They Live has nothing to do with the jews. It doesn't even matter if he meant it to be about them allegories and tropes are eternal.

Orcs are muzzies

>Lord of the Rings
fuck off to reddit you manchild

Tolkien said his story was not allegorical in any way. So the Orcs were meant to be corrupted Elves.

It doesn't matter what he meant to do. Those images and stories and narrative was burnt into his DNA. There are universal truths.

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The elves totally aren't meant to be white people either right? Perfect fair skinned creatures with peaceful nature loving societies? Dwarves are jews btw.

>with peaceful nature loving societies?
>ideas for book written during ww1
are you retarded son?

>backwards
>repulsive
>savage
I think it was muslims but Idk

Pretty sure he J.R.R saw them as Turkish

Numenor was America, bongistan. They moved into the new world out west away from middle Earth and closer to the gods.

Dwarves, elves, and orcs had no real-world basis. They were pure fantasy. The memes, like pic related, are just for laughs.

he didn't create the dragons. he took lizards and corrupted them just as he took fire spirits and corrupted them into the balrogs.

I'm not actually sure if the trolls were corrupted by him or were always assholes.

No, Elves are meant to be the firstborn of Illuvatar who came to Middle Earth to either hunt down Morgoth or to get revenge on the Dark Elves for murdering a bunch of other Elves and stealing their ships.

Orcs are legitimately niggers, per Tolkein's own notes.

>he vehemently denied any metaphorical connection between his works and our real world
Not really true. For example the relationship between frodo and sam is that of officer and loww ranked soldier, from tolkien's experience in ww1

Spot on mate

The analogy works in so far as the assumption that Germany winning would've been bad for Europe.

it doesn't map on reality because it's a fantasy world he invented for fun