The EU should take a standd against Poland and Hungary

>It’s ugly and on the rise; and it’s hard to see how it can end well. The global rise of conservative nationalism with the aim of creating “national communities” – directed by an unchallengeable leader to defend special national values, controlling borders against the virus of immigrants and “foreign” influence – is the menace of our times.

>It is the recipe for domestic repression, crony capitalism, massive corruption, implosion of the rule of law, the rise of racism and international conflict. The values that underpinned the postwar liberal order that conferred peace, tolerance and prosperity are being torched before our eyes. It is time to take a stand.

>Russia and China are the international standard-bearers of this malign credo, flanked by Turkey and India, and openly admired by the conservative nationalists in power in Poland and Hungary – and by Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and a leavening of extreme Tory Brexiters. All are spawn of the same devil – immigration and a working population that feels jobs and living standards under threat. All over Europe there are conservative nationalist parties beating the same drum – from Germany’s Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) to Denmark’s People’s party. Europe is reacquainting itself with its darkest demons.

>Within the EU Hungary’s Fidesz party has been taking the lead, reshaping its constitution to create what its leader, Viktor Orbán, openly boasts is an “illiberal democracy”. The aim is a one-party state committed to root out anti-Christian values, with no effective checks and balances, controlling the media and a network of oligarchs who owe their fortunes to government contracts. It stinks to high heaven, but Orbán has two great cards – being in the frontline of Muslim immigration and a fragile economy. He wins elections, holding the supermajority in the Budapest parliament that allows him to do what he has done.

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>Will Hutton

>Orbán’s ideology was set out in an incendiary 2014 speech in Băile Tușnad – ceded to Romania after the 1920 Treaty of Trianon, which Orbán wants to reverse, extending voting rights to ethnic Hungarians in Romania. Hitler had the same passion for ethnic Germans living beyond Germany’s borders in the 1930s.

Merkel getting completely fucked in the election + Austria now having a right wing coalition + Macron being more conservative than his predecessor means that the EU has no leg to stand on. When Italy swings to the right and maybe even Sweden, the EU will either become obsolete or they will have to change dramatically. That means no more Juckner and other cunts

Throw the link into an Archive so anons can read the rest.

Forgot to mention Norway having a more right wing government also.

>Orbán’s ideology was set out in an incendiary 2014 speech in Băile Tușnad – ceded to Romania after the 1920 Treaty of Trianon, which Orbán wants to reverse, extending voting rights to ethnic Hungarians in Romania. Hitler had the same passion for ethnic Germans living beyond Germany’s borders in the 1930s.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/07/hungary-poland-had-enough-of-liberal-democracy-eu-must-act

One of you fags archive this. It’s a goldmine.

archive.is/lLc4F

Norway isn't in the EU user.

>How great it would be if Britain were in the thick of this fight – but we too are in the grip of an anti-Enlightenment populist right. Theresa May has to court the Polish government to support the cake-and-eat-it trade deal she is fatuously pursuing. We cannot join with France and Germany standing for the best of European values because we need Poland’s support. Brexit is revealed to have the same dark roots that succour Orbán. Labour – internationalist, pro-European and profoundly anti-racist – should find the courage to speak out, and insist that in times like these to leave the EU is folly. The time for temporising is over.

xD

>illiberal

Kinda bigoted to see these countries through a western liberal lens when that is not their culture, no?

>Labour – internationalist, pro-European and profoundly anti-racist – should find the courage to speak out
When did they shut up?

Wait so the democratically elected Polish and Hungarian government are a threat to democracy and need an undemocratically elected European Commission to reside over them?

This plus brexit, cheque Republic being anti refugee and Spain being on the verge of civil war.

This is what OP would like to see for all of EU.

Sage goes in all fields

>>It is the recipe for domestic repression, crony capitalism, massive corruption, implosion of the rule of law, the rise of racism and international conflict.
Dear god this is retarded. Racism comes from sticking different kinds of people in one country, not from keeping them apart. Conflict and hate arises between neighboring communities, over specific points like resource sharing, law, clashing culture etc. It doesn't magically manifest (spontaneous generation style) against groups living thousands of miles away. Racism is a facet of multiculturalism.

Don't make our mistake Euro friends. Keep niggers and minorities out of your countries. Liberals will lie and do everything to undermine your society by (falsely) extolling the virtues of multiculturalism. Don't piss away what your ancestors fought hard and paid for in blood that you are the inheritors of. Praying for you guys.

kek
keep crying bitch ass nigga

the worst thing EU can do is to take their rights

We have been de facto EU members since 1994 with no voting rights and we're doing perfectly fine

Elites are responsible for illiterate muslim immigration tsunami and now they're surprised people are fighting back?
Once beautiful Paris is now is looking like a third-world shithole, and these people have a nerve to tell us there's no problem?

Why did they call themselves still Labour?

I don't agree with euro liberalism. Fuck Merkel and Brussels. Poland and Hungary are a role model for Europa.

When Japanese go to Paris they literally go insane because of how dirty and disgusting it is now thanks to blacks and muslims

This is the kind of thing the USA would have never let happen in the past. What does EU think it is?

I believe Trump should take a stand against the EU and sanction the countries involved in the anti-right-wing intimidation campaign there.

>It doesn't magically manifest (spontaneous generation style) against groups living thousands of miles away. Racism is a facet of multiculturalism.

Bullshit.
Xenophobic parties perform best in the least "multicultural" parts of Europe.

>Poland and Hungary are a role model for Europa.

Those countries are hopeless shitholes though.
Why do you think there are over 1 million Poles in Western Europe?

What will happen to the EU when Angela Merkel is thrown out of office for her stupid migration policies

Fuck the EU that shit has to go. The native people of Europe have a right to choose who comes into their countries. They have a right to expel migrants. They have a right to do whatever the fuck they want to do. The EU is a cancer masquerading as an economic union.

None of this nationalism shit would be happening if these traitors and useful idiots hadn't championed multiculturalism and diversity. Look what you made me do.

>Merkel getting completely fucked in the election
And yet she will probably get a 4th term, no one can form a government without the CDU.

>Austria now having a right wing coalition
So?

>Macron being more conservative than his predecessor
True, he is a centist while his predecessor was a socialist.
And yet he's arguably the most pro-EU president that France ever had. Stop making this about left and right.

>When Italy swings to the right
Italy will be ungovernable after the election. Mostly because of the rise of an anti-establishment party that is all over the place ideologically. They are not right wing (pic related).

>EU will either become obsolete or they will have to change dramatically.
Can you sepcify what that change will look like?
Or are you like the brexiteers who have now idea what they should do now that they have gotten what they wanted?

>They have a right to expel migrants.
They already do.

>They have a right to do whatever the fuck they want to do.
No country on this planet has the right to do "whatever the fuck it wants".

>None of this nationalism shit would be happening if these traitors and useful idiots hadn't championed multiculturalism and diversity.
The EU has no real migration policy, nor does it have a unified asylum system.
Migration policy is a responsibility of the member states.
The decision of Germany to allow the migrants of 2015/2016 to enter Germany was a UNILATERAL German decision. The EU wasn't even consulted.

I didn't know all of europe was germany and they just walked into it. Another case of Europeans turns its back on the only country that makes it relevant.

>Tries to bully Poland and Hungary to take hoards of sandniggers
>You totally have control over your immigration!

Kill yourself

They seem to forget they had to walk through other countries to get to germany. Or is everyone implying all the countries leading up to germany are so useless they let invaders just walk through?

Kek at this point just like what happened in Spain-Catalonia doing anything will hurt the EU, the best thing the EU can do to prevent fracturing the EU any further is to shut the fuck up and let countries do what they want at this point.

>Tries to bully Poland and Hungary to take hoards of sandniggers
The refugee relocation program was about moving refugees from Italy, Greece and Hungary to other EU countries to alleviate the burden on these countries.
Poland was only allocated 9300 refugees, in the end it accepted 0, and there is little the EU can do to change that.
And Hungary? REFUGEES ARE BEING REMOVED FROM HUNGARY BY THE EU.

Yet they broke every single convention about war refugees.
First safe country near yours. First SAFE. Not the one of the richest...

I don't know what is going through their minds. The EU shouldn't ever be putting pressure on nation states regarding their domestic social policy. Let alone fucking mass immigration of subhuman sandniggers. It should be a simple economic plan to remove trade barriers, as it was sold to the people of Europe.

It will end in war.

They can't defend the traitors opening the gates.

The Eu should start protecting its borders instead of succumbing to inner european quarrels.

>Fugees and EU.
Nigger since we obstructed that ridiculous shit Poland, poles and polish govt is attacked left and right.
Please go be a nigger somewhere else

>The refugee relocation program was about moving refugees from Italy, Greece and Hungary to other EU countries to alleviate the burden on these countries.

They should have turned their boats around. If you let in foreigners you are responsible for them. Lets not pretend the EU is doing everything it can (admittedly not much) to punish Poland for this. Utterly disgusting behavior out of the EU, and proof that it needs to go.

They envoked "article 7" upon us. But it supose to be blocked by v4 countries.
They yell very loud about taking our structural founds and such.
They're doing actually too much. New polls will come up later this month and eu-scepticism in on the rise.

>Russia and China are the international standard-bearers of this malign credo, flanked by Turkey and India, and openly admired by the conservative nationalists in power in Poland and Hungary – and by Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and a leavening of extreme Tory Brexiters. All are spawn of the same devil
Interesting he doesn't mention Israel when outlining the nationalist threats considering Israel is a an explicit nationalist ethnostate.

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>Yet they broke every single convention about war refugees. First safe country near yours. First SAFE. Not the one of the richest...
I guess you're referring to the Dublin agreement.
Dublin fell apart because Greece and Italy just stop registering refugees when the numbers are too high. This way they can prevent refugees from being deoprted back to Greece/Italy.
The Dublin system is flawed.

If that is so, then why does austria have to take immigrants from Italy by this plan when austria has already taken more migrants per capita than italy?

Sure thats the official idea,but the official idea is retarded and doesnt work.
The pressure on hungary and poland is clearly calculated, it is an attack on exactly that which the governments and voting people of those countries want to protect, its a show of force by the EU.

Youse GOYIM better let in ALL of Africa or our MSM will call you racists!

The eternal whig has been a more destructive force than the Jews could ever hope to be.

>theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/07/hungary-poland-had-enough-of-liberal-democracy-eu-must-act
No mention of Israel in the full article either. I wonder why.

Every single EU land border to the South is fenced.
Remember the Trump wall that will never be built?
The EU has had one for years.

how did they get in then?

>how did they get in then?
The same way the Cubans got into the US, by boat.

what a stupid observation. of course a diverse electorate won't have that opinion as the only people who would hold that view are not there

wow immigrants dont vote against themselves

you have one low IQ, you

Who let them get off in their country?

Key word, land. The EU borders the Med, which links to Africa and the middle east too. Also those fences are quite recent - last few years.

Wait, isn't this what Turkey already has for all the turklettes in the EU?

>brits thinking they have an opinion on the EU after Brexit

fuck off you cuckold multikulti fags

So then the meds opened the gates?

but israel is never criticized ,fuck you the guardian and fuck the jews

>Who let them get off in their country?
What do you mean? Who let them depart?
The Turks. Untill the EU started paying them to stop the boats.

>>It is the recipe for domestic repression, crony capitalism, massive corruption, implosion of the rule of law,
Isn't this from the West and their liberal governments too? Is it worse in Eastern Europe?

The only place they should go is back to their own countries.

>So then the meds opened the gates?
What "gates"? What the fuck are you on about?
If 1 MILLION people decide to buy small boats and overwhelm the greek coasts there is nothing you can do. No coast guard on this planet can deal with such an onslaught.

Oh dear, Will Hutton seems a bit triggered watching his life's work go up in flames. For anons who don't know who he is, he's the absolute posterboy for the chattering classes, the most Establishment figure I can imagine. Bad luck Will.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Hutton

long live Poland and Hungary

Based Polish white people literally prayed en-masse for shitskins to not come to their country. Might be the best population on earth.

what ever keep making excuses, mountain jew.

>long live Poland
You sure do love Poles.

This. As Anglins propaganda strategy says, just blame it all on the kikes. This is fastest way to race wars throughout europe/us.

>It is the recipe for domestic repression, crony capitalism, massive corruption, implosion of the rule of law, the rise of racism and international conflict, anal warts, pink eye, gas, bloating, calamity, scabies, slurred speech, temporary blindness, an erection lasting more than four hours, profuse sweating, dry mouth, heart palpitations, liver spots, alien abduction, sudden weight loss, diaphoresis, diabetes, diarrhea, crack lung, the mange, itching, vertigo, numbness and tingling, meteor showers, rising sea levels, rheumatism, club foot, domestic violence, mushroom clouds, bullying, dingle berries, anxiety, giant monster attack, ass cancer, spear wounds, lupus, and feeling "not so fresh down there"

>All are spawn of the same devil – immigration and a working population that feels jobs and living standards under threat. All over Europe there are conservative nationalist parties beating the same drum – from Germany’s Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) to Denmark’s People’s party. Europe is reacquainting itself with its darkest demons.

>Be pro-secular
>Speak about devil and demons
Is he Will Hutton or (((Will Hutton)))?

then why is it a shithole

Poland and Hungary will exit EU and join Shanghai Cooperation Organization before 2020. Screencap this.

the eternal anglo strikes again
>people in eastern europe want to preserve their history and culture
>this is not democracy
>you should accept diversity and multiculturalism
>why? because we tell you
>that is vibrant democracy

The EU should DIE. The Treaty of Maastricht was a mistake. No one wants to be told what to do by some old people from Brussels.

Normies do, they love marching around with EU flags.

The Left has sown the seeds of its eventual destruction. It’s hard to believe that they could be so stupid.

You do realize the EU hates the fence and it wasn’t built by the EU, but by those Balkan nation’s,right. Every time an EU faggot mentions the fences it is pejoratively to demonize the Eastern Euros? Of course you realize this, kike.

why do they pretend to care? none of their business

Macrons a massive Europhile. So is Kurz. Kurz wants the EU less involved in national decisions.

They're not in it, but they are Brussels lapdog. Will be bad for Juncker et al. if they lose Norway to the anti-cucks

>>Labour – internationalist, pro-European and profoundly anti-racist – should find the courage to speak out
Labour - Anti-Working Class, anti-Native British and profoundly anti-white - should find the courage to speak out against Apartheid State Israel

Who do you think votes against pro-immigration parties, idiot?

Because they see what West Germany has turned into, and they do not want that. Also Eastern Germans aren't burdened by the Holocaust guilt and huwhite guilt nearly as much as West Germans so they can speak more freely. Nobody in West Germany liked mass migration, and many still do not like it. But speaking out against it means social suicide for many people.

Poland and Hungary will soon be all that is left of Europe.

>M5S cryptokikes
>anti-establishment
nigger what?
even if they were they won't get enough votes to form a government because they aren't in any coalition

There's nothing wrong with a united Europe. There's everything wrong with a United Europe that has open borders with the rest of the world and free gibs for everyone who comes here.

Only neoliberal Tory-type cucks who hate the working class, and retarded reactionary types who read Daily Mail type newspapers want to completely destroy the EU.

>higher percentage of native population
>higher percentage of people voting to keep out foreigners

maybe there are more people voting for afd because...maybe...foreigners vote against afd (or parties trying to keep out "foreigners") do you know how democracy and voting works?

But most of the boats sink near the Libyan coast.