Should you only wife up virgins? Or is it acceptable to wife redpilled non-virgins?

Should you only wife up virgins? Or is it acceptable to wife redpilled non-virgins?

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I don't know. Historically virginity being valued made sense because no contraception, paternity tests, high pregnancy risks, etc. Today things are different. Does that mean virginity should be valued less? I don't know. Maybe.

Why?

you can surgically get hymens placed in your vagina you fucking imbecile. Hymens are outdated.

Where did it all go so wrong, bros?

>implying women will get a hymen surgically implanted so they can marry someone from the "no hymen no diamond" facebook group

Wew lad

When the Jews gave women got the right to vote

>Does that mean virginity should be valued less?
Yes because of everything you said before that?
Virginity has close to no intrinsic value today. It can, however, be a massive red flag because no one prior to you wanted to have sex with that girl.
The only reason losers put virginity on a pedestal is because they subconsciously want to create massive expectations from women that they inevitably will not be met. And then it's not guy's fault, it's society's fault, the womens' fault, etc.

The world is better than it's ever been. If you think the average person lived like the people in your pic, then you're brainwashed by art and propaganda.

Implying it will do anything. It's women's market, they'll find Arabian princes and engineers who won't mind lack of hymen in their 4 wifes,

>average people don't live up to the ideal
No shit. It's less about reality but what people strive towards. 120 years ago everyone would have agreed that this is how they want to live. Today however...

>Should you only wife up virgins?
Join us boys, limited membership and guaranteed 72 virgins. Hurry up!

*Offer valid till stock lasts.

Please I'm begging you, find a nice young girl and have children asap.

Image is retarded, literally says "no hymen no no diamond"

Its not about the hyman, but about the sexual purity.

Virgins don't have all this emotional baggage, they won't compare thier husband to 20 other man etc.

Then there is a spiritual bondage between man and woman, especially when they wait until marriage - they learn to undertstand each other much better. Hoes on the other hand (whether male or female), will build a relationship mainly on sexual desires, which will vanish, but the virgin on trust, mutual goals etc.

Also I can recommend you read about micro-chimerism and telegony.

This. Blowjobs keep hymen intact and they are just as bad.

Hello roastie. Men value virgins because whores are incapable of forming emotional bonds. It's not that men don't want that virgin girl, it's that she realized the value of her virginity and held onto it.

Today what? Today we have more freedom in most things. We have entertainment at our fingertips. Fuck, today, I'm arguing with you from a nice suburban house in Belgium while you're in Germany (assuming you're not using a proxy). The world has never been more accessible. There's good and stuff in every time period and 120y from now someone will be wistfully thinking about the early 21st century and wish he'd live in our "golden age".

marriage to non-virgins is invalid by definition

When we started promoting the idea that punishing a minority for their crimes is racist. Also this nihilistic view of life has done us more harm than good. People marry in order to drain the partner's money. Traditional family is frowned upon while the industry promotes the idea of "freedom". Basically, the only thing the media promoted was wealth while condemning everything that defined a happy life - A caring, supportive wife, happy offsprings, pride of their ancestor's legacy.

>Today we have more freedom in most things.
>We have entertainment at our fingertips.
>The world has never been more accessible.

Man, why are you even here?

ITT: people who never had sex

Because there's plenty of bad stuff too. That's the thing however. There's always bad stuff. I'm pretty sick of golden age- fags insisting that [favourite time period] was objectively superior to our current world in all things and that their lives would be 100x better had they been born then.

You should strive the improve the present, not to emulate the past.

Virgins can't fuck for shit so I never bother in the first place.

Married my highschool sweetheart. Over the last ten years iv watched my friends go through hoe after hoe, they're all broke and don't own a thing. It was worth it for me. Iv molded her into MY ideal women and we've done nothing but prosper together. She has problems making friends with most women our age, she said that they've unreslistic standards for life and no drive to achieve things in relationships and just bitch about everything. I can't speak about other women from personal experience but having a partner that has only slept with me seems to be a huge key to longterm happiness.

Nobody cares about your fat smelly wife

A (((ring)))) HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck the ring, any cunt that falls for that meme should be avoided for being blue pilled and retarded, unaware of their surroundings

>The world is better than it's ever been.
You mean how there is rampant degeneracy, europeans being actively replaced in their own countries and people being brainwashed since birth? Yes! This is the typical mind of the decadent western cucked man at this point, to value materialism, advances in technology and this illusion of freedom and individualism above anything else. You've bought into this comformity because you've been turned into a docile pet who is supposed to believe in exactly what you're believing in. Kill yourself, you're completely useless.

Sounds awful

This, also people value virginity because they're insecure about their own lack of sexual partners.

>You should strive the improve the present, not to emulate the past.
How about striving to improve the present BY emulating the past, you fag?

Enjoy being alone.

This. Diamonds are a fucking scam and no one points it out whenever these threads pop up.

These days the government even calls mutal ass masturbation between faggots "marriage".

Not an argument, roastie

t. hedonist degenerate

t. roastie

In my opinion: diamonds and the need for one = best test to know the true nature of a woman.
If a woman does not see the (((diamond))) scam, you are wasting your time and eventually your sperm.

You don't like individualism and freedom? I'm sure you do. While you want a loyal virgin wife like in ages past, I'm sure you don't want all the responsiblities that come with it. You don't want to marry the homely girl next door your parents set you up and provide for her every needs while she stays at home and "takes care of the house" and spends all her free time gossiping with all the other women in town. There's no guarantee she'd even love you. That's not important after all. You bring in the money and she changes diapers.

>thinking sex is the only way to lose a hymen

the absolute state of burger education

Irrelevant. The diamond ring is nothing but social proof you have a stable income and future. That's all that matters and a reasonable expectation. It should set off alarm bells in traditional women.

There wouldn't be shitty unfaithful women if there weren't shitty unfaithful men. Your biological role as a man isn't to play videogames and watch anime.

>Hello roastie
Hello person who jumps to comfortable conclusions.
>Men value virgins
>I* value virgins
ftfy bro.
>she realized the value of her virginity and held onto it.
This is your wishful thinking that has nothing to do with real world. In society whether you want it or not, certain behaviour is kinda looked upon as normal. I've met tons of virgin girls that tried to convince me that they're NOT virgin, just like some guys would do. Because when you're not a virgin, you're with the cool kids, you "get it", etc. Just saying: even if you find that unicorn that "realized the value of her virginity and held onto it", there's a high chance that she lives with her parents at 29, has many issues stuffed down and probably rationalizes her late virginity as a product of her own will, same way that guys on /r9k/ do.
Does it cross your mind that an exceptional women has been invited to parties, she has been begged to marry her, she has been asked out for probably thousands of times. That's cause she's exceptional. And odds are, she's had sex. Nothing wrong with that.

>You don't like individualism and freedom?
Oh I do, but at what cost? Also it is my individual desire to live like its 1910, so how about that? It's modernist cucks like you that give individualism a bad name.

>You don't want to marry the homely girl next door your parents set you up and provide for her every needs while she stays at home and "takes care of the house" and spends all her free time gossiping with all the other women in town.
Yes, I do, you faggot. I want to come home from a hard day of work to see that my dinner is ready and I want to provide shelter and protection to the woman I love. How hard is that to understand?

yes no hymen no diamond. no exceptions. I wouldn't even wife a girl who wasn't consciously making an effort to wait for marriage either.

sexually frustrated neckbeards detected

>Willingly dedicate your entire lifeforce into a women until you die
>This same women fucked around
>Divorce is a real possibility just around the corner

No, thank you

that is a government of merchants and race traitors. it is also invalid and will be replaced by a loyal government.

>ou don't want to marry the homely girl next door your parents set you up and provide for her every needs while she stays at home and "takes care of the house" and spends all her free time gossiping with all the other women in town
that's literally what most of us here want

>Defending the humiliating stance of sticking with a high dick mileage roastie
>Thinks it's a cool position to stand on

Only roastie, literal faggots and soyim can support this

it's pretty bad when our civilization's greatest aspiration is to be normal.

LOL i made a fashwave a few days ago out of that pic with a similar concept

I'm not even a fascist, but I love this meme.

If all you want is a virgin female who will perform her wifely duties in exchange for shelter, you can easily find one. Go to eastern europe, or asia if you don't mind the racemixing. I'm pretty sure you can even do so online if that's your thing. There's dating sites out there catering to white men looking for simple virgin wives. Have fun.

>if you dont mind racemixing
THEN WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT?

Sorry, but I want my wive to be on equal intellectual footing with myself. I want to talk with her about art and philosophy and shit. Can't do that with someone who doesn't speak German or English as their first language. Woudln't mind a chink or slav waifu, but that relationship would be pretty shallow if we can't communicate on an intellectual level.

>Virgins don't have all this emotional baggage

Oh Hanz...

>No hymen? No ring

Funny to see this since gypsy whores let you fuck them in the ass instead.

whats with all the fucking cynical waffles?

No, only someone who has never had a female friend could say something like "high dick mileage roastie"

Do you have friends that are girls user?

>You don't like individualism and freedom?
Individualism is about as unnatural in societies as it gets, but it is becoming the norm thanks to degenerates like you.
Freedom? What freedom? The freedom to go on pride parades? The freedom to jackoff to porn and watch stupid shit on TV or netflix? The freedom to go out every weekend to bars, poison myself with alcohol and fuck fatherless whores? No thanks, i don't want any of that.
>You don't want to marry the homely girl next door your parents set you up and provide for her every needs while she stays at home and "takes care of the house" and spends all her free time gossiping with all the other women in town.
Yes i do.
>There's no guarantee she'd even love you.
There's even less guarantee that the fatherless emancipated whores of today will ''''love'''' me.
>You bring in the money and she changes diapers.
How its supposed to be.

This, its utterly insane if you think about it.

>Should you only wife up virgins?

yes

>Or is it acceptable to wife redpilled non-virgins?

only if you are a cuck

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerp_diamond_district

It's to the fucking gills with diamond shilling heebs.

being a friend with a woman and being married to one are two completely different worlds. some roasties are nice people, but why would you ever want to commit your life to one?

Yes, and they are all disgusting filthy sluts with high dick mileage.

I don't know if this will work but it sure is entertaining.

Roasties / Cucks.

There is nothing more imortant than a pure womb fo your seeds. intact hymen or GTFO.

good luck finding an intact hymen on a girl over 9 these days.

Intellectual footing? Art and philosophy? No, that's not proper for a woman in 1910. Except for art maybe. It would maybe be acceptable for a woman to draw some nature still in her free time. Most women had no education in 1910. Hell, even female "teachers" weren't tolerated beyond nursery or junior school.

>This, also people value virginity because they're insecure about their own lack of sexual partners.

soyim pls go

>Today what? Today we have more freedom in most things.

is belgium the new canada or is it just a cheap proxy? what is the rate of divorce in belgium, smth like +60%?

>I want to talk with her about art and philosophy and shit
>communicate on an intellectual level

Jesus Christ are all German men this pathetic? Achmed sticking his hand under her skirt must feel like a blissful distraction to any female having to spend an afternoon with someone like you.

Why are you such a hedonistic degenerate, waffle-kun?

just imagine putting a baby into a womb that's had another man's dick inside it. nothing more cucked than that other than literal cucking

The problem is not individualism, but lies and propaganda, my fashy friend. If people knew the truth they would choose traditionalism as I did, once I finally understood this world. The problem is that people are being fed lies about gender. Men are told that they don't need to be masculine and women are told that they don't need to be feminine, which leads to people not being attractive to the opposite sex anymore, which makes everyone miserable.

>No, that's not proper for a woman in 1910
Well, I could teach her. She could read my books while I am away.

I don't talk thay way about my friends user. You must not be a very good friend.

Women only care about romance, sexual attraction and social intrigue. Wake up, idiot. Women are NOT equal to men in ANYTHING. They don't care about philosophy or art. They never did, and they never will. They only care about their craft: SEX and SEDUCTION.

Literally what they are designed for.

They all jokingly call themselves as sluts, as all women do these days. Women are sluts and proud of it.

Stop being a fucking retarded omega faggot/roastie.

I hear they closed down your subreddit, incelfags.

>putting a baby into a womb that's had another man's dick inside it. nothing more cucked than that other than literal cucking

truth, its just demasculinazing taking other mens loftovers

This is exactly what I meant. You claim to want a homely, simple 1910's wife and now you insist that she should be intellectual. That desire alone means you do not want a 1910's wife.

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Roastie is touchy. The more you fuck women, the more disgusted you get by their morals. If you can't accept this obvious truth, you are NOT redpilled.

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I agree with the stupid christcuck for once.

This thread again. Guaranted 300 replies of mostly garbage.

Listen up: the idea of sexual purity is good, and one we should strive for. At the same time we have to consider that there will be a kind of "lost generation" of people who need to settle for less for the benefit of their children. The average user of this site, the disaffected millenials and late gen-x people grew up in a world made up of 75 years of lies that they are just beginning to see through. The natural order was secreted away, and replaced with hedonist-consumerist trash. Anti-natalism nearly became the norm because supposedly the childfree life is so good, so happy, and by the way it will also save the planet. Your sexual actions had no consequence, and plays were put on in school about how good transient sex is, with no regard to pairbonding. After all, why would they? We live in a world where women are not only offered, but encouraged to take a pill that suppresses their natural femininity and creates a culture of fear around pregnancy, "what if it isn't the right time?" We have to accept that some people will have settle on the lied-to, because they were lied to themselves.

Now, I am not advocating that every man settles on the nearest racemixing roastie with a 100+ partner count for the simple purpose of creating more in-group racial units. You should still have standards. You should still aim for someone with as low a partner count as possible, or at least someone with a similar partner count. Then, at all costs, move away from temptation.

We will have to accept some reformed degenerates. If they are aware of their transgressions, if they've seen through the lies, and if they are actively seeking to better themselves and their extended racial families, then they are OK. Their children will be taught important lessons, and the next generation will be more ideal.

Sexual purity is ideal, but perhaps unrealistic for the vast majority of people reading this.

Do you really think normal people think the way you do user?

No true scottsman, for sure. Bet you have not even kissed a girl.

Not saying that everything used to be 10/10 perfect, just better than today. We threw out the baby with the bath water. Today I could have an intellectual wife, but she would also be a thot. What's the fucking point?

I don't know Klaus, why is your idea of marriage the equivalent of a lifelong junior-high school field trip?

Yes, it was the norm of all of humanity until 1945. So I would say it's pretty normal way to think about women, as it was the historical norm, and based on observation and experience of billions of men, all put into test by thousands of years and millions of human lives.

Because 19th century romanticism > modernist nihilistic trash. You are a slave to contemporary thought.

All you desperate tinder losers should hook up with a desperate used up whore just like you
Virgin women deserve Virgin men. .

nah, byzantine pill is the ultimate redpill

Oh, and just for your information. If you're really looking for an intellectual traditional wife then the closest you're going to get to that is to go to China or Japan and browse their "leftover wives". Mostly educated women over 25 sometimes close to 30 who get shunned by society because they missed the boat and choose (academic) careers instead of marriage. Then at the ripe, old age of 25+ are considered unmarriagable hags.

I don't think you'll get a better deal when it comes to traditional and educated. It's a pretty difficult set of requirements to have.

You should work on yourself, get a career going, get fit, get your life in order, and keep an eye out for opportunities along the way. Make sure you're someone who's worth it.

Given the lack of virgin women out there it might be necessary to go for a non-virgin. As long as it's your own biological children you're raising, that is.

How hard it is to get fucking any girl, in this age of tinder and facebook?

I wish I was a virgin with aspergers, so I could dedicate all my energy with something intelectual. I'm just a mediocre faggot.

They are not part of my culture and I'm not part of theirs.

i'd honestly rather die than marry a roastie, reformed or not. its just not worth it, i could give more to the greater good by going out in a blaze of glory than by raising a few kids.

Stable marriage doesn't always mean a healthy marriage. People are miserable in their marriages left right and sideways. If people haven't had sex before wedding, you fucking bet they'll stick to each other, but is this scarcity based marriage good for any party?

Women are innately immoral, so even the virgins wants to fuck the druggies with STD who banged her entire crew of friends.

If we ought to talk what women deserve, remember this: They deserve to be put into oppressive sexual submission, forever more, if for the benefit of mankind.