Love MOTHERFUCKING Hina

I watched the anime and read the manga a long time ago I was so into it. In retrospect however it's not very good. Oh well. What are your thoughts on this series, user?

Naru worst girl

It was shit then
It's shit now

Nothing about this series is worth remembering fondly.

Baby's first harem
It's decent for the first 10-20 chapters and then it goes to shit once you realize that everytime Keitaro is about to kiss Naru there will be an "accident" where Keitaro accidentally touches her tits and Naru punches him just to reset the status quo because the author can't write for shit
Basically, it's a piece of shit

If you want a decent romcom harem read Nisekoi(inb4 bait fuck off) not this fucking shit

It's like if someone took Urusei Yatsura and didn't understand that it was only funny because the characters were all supposed to be dicks. When you make the MC a punching bag, but still have him be a legitimately good person it just makes all of the people inflicting slapstick upon him look like jackasses, and makes you feel sorry for him instead of laugh. Way too much of the series, especially at the beginning when the audience is still learning about the characters, is spent having people we're supposed to sympathize with viciously beat someone who we're also supposed to sympathize with.

After the first time that the girls' grievance is confirmed to be a misunderstanding they should have learned to exercise some sort of restraint, but they really never do. Eventually Hina tones it down on the spousal abuse and it's treated like major character development, but Keitaro still keeps getting beaten.

>Eventually Hina tones it down on the spousal abuse
>Hina

ive been on the fence about nisekoi, is there more than two waifus?

Oh fuck, that's a typo. Meant Naru, obviously.

>is there more than two waifus?
Of course
There's like 4-5 waifus(they all get introduced one by one though so not all of them are present in the first chapter)

Also slightly off-topic but...if you want just a funny romcom(non-harem) check out Kodomo no Omocha(both the manga and the anime) that is some good shit

If Nisekoi's really all that and a bag of chips then I'll check it out. Haven't touched a harem in awhile.

It's a funny series
It's more focused on comedy so don't get too invested on the plot and just enjoy the comfy SoL shenanigans

That's fine too, so long as there's some nice fanserivce alongside it too I can dig it.

Thanks Sternritter 'A' for trapping us in a horrific cycle

>fanservice
Actually at first there is some fanservice early on in the series but Komi drops it pretty quickly and it's probably one of the most conservative manga I've read in recent years

It focuses more in making the girls likeable through their personality(and to some degree it succeeds because all the girls are pretty likeable)

You will probably hate Raku(the MC) though but that's to be expected of Harem series

Oh. Eh. Eh, I'll give it a shot regardless.

Why does Naru hate him, anyway? She's definitely not a tsundere with that kind of personality.

I think she's supposed to be a tsundere, but the author is bad at writing so she comes comes off as hating him instead.

Love Hina ruined the Harem genre.
Introduced the cookie cutter girl archetypes and cemented the tsundere as the only winner from then on.

It was shit, and it ruined harem anime, and romance anime in general for a good 10 years after it aired.

Catchy as fuck opening though

Akamatsu is a fucking hack, and if I could undo any piece of media's influence from anime, it would be Love Hina.

First Manga I read all the way through.

Love Hina was popular when it appeared but was sudden forgotten.

He touched her tits

Manga is still very good.

loved the manga
anime aged like bread in a dark and humid room

when I first watched Eva, though I was a kid back then, my first thought when looking at Asuka for the first time was "oh great another Naru clone"

fpbp

also mutsumi best girl

babbys first harem manga

Love hina date sim was one of the first games I ever played on NG when I was a kid
It opened a door I wish it never had into a world full of suffering and lonliness

It seems like someone still learning how to draw.

Entry level Haremshit. Ara ara best girl

remove love hina over evangelion?

This. It sucks, but it was my first full read through and was my gateway into manga/anime.

Even Naru grows the fuck up by the end. Asuka is just shit.

oh don't kid yourself you were gonna open that door anyway

Oh fuck this game. Wasted multiple hours on it.

Romance manga are still struggling to recover from this shitfest to this very day. So many traits turned to cliches that Japanese love to use. The "Female beating up male MC" has died out a good bit since the craze that followed, but it still pops up and is just as unfunny as ever. Tsunderes are pretty much the default winners of harems too due to this manga.

Really, its biggest problem is how big it was. Something so shitty simply shouldn't have been big, but Japs have shit taste.

manga also aged like shit
only thing worth in it is fapping to naru's titties

well it's a classic
not a good one, but still okay i guess

the author did better with Negima and UQ though

I think you mean "fapping to lolicious Shinobu"

>only thing worth in it is fapping to naru's titties

But Mutsumi's titties are bigger and you see them more often

It was a fun ride.

But Love Hina didn't start any of this shit
You can blame Rumiko Takahashi's Urusei Yatsura for all these problems

>Tsunderes are pretty much the default winners of harems too due to this manga.
Actually the most won girls are usually the autistic girl even during LH's prime.

Though everytime the tsundere loses Sup Forums will call them the best girl that should've won anyway.

I re-read it some time ago, I was surprised that at least at the beginning Naru wasn't as punch-first-ask-later as I remembered. Many of the punches she gave to Keitaro were actually deserved, he was a bit of a dick to her, not to say that she wasn't a dick too but still, I was amazed that he had to patch the relationship with the girls over the course of weeks or even months before they started to develop feelings for him.

That last point is what every harem these days lacks, proper character development, it is always MC arrives to [insert place here], the girls fall for him almost immediately.

So are Mitsune's but that doesn't mean shit
Neither of their faces are anywhere near as pretty as Naru's

And yes face matter when it comes to tits. If somebody has an ugly face while having big tits it's pretty much unfappable

>Though everytime the tsundere loses Sup Forums will call them the best girl that should've won anyway.

That's because the average Sup Forumsnon is a cucked virgin whose only experience with the female sex is being bullied by it.

>well it's a classic
By what definition?
I guess it's old at this point but I hardly would call it a classic since it sucks

>he was a bit of a dick to her
though most of those cases Naru is kinda a bitch to him
tit-for-tat in a lot of the scenarios

Fuck off crossboarder.

modern harems MC doesn't even choose a girl.

Naru and Mutsumi literally have the same face. Akamatsu used the same layout. Mutsumi's hair is just black vs Naru's brown.

Mutsumi is much more attractive.

>That last point is what every harem these days lacks, proper character development
Fucking horseshit
Nisekoi did this and did it 100 times better than this garbage manga

I loved the manga but the anime wasn't that great. If you think the anime was bad, try watching it in english. The first time I heard Mitsune's english voice I damn near wanted to cry it was so bad. I know her accent is often translated as a southern accent for english but it was so overblown that it made Blanche Devereaux sound like a yankee.

Truth hurts don't it.

Mutsumi is literally Aerith from Final Fantasy 7

Fuck off.

>Naru and Mutsumi literally have the same face.
No they don't
They don't have the same kinda expressions and they don't have the same hair

Mutsumi just looks too old and I don't find her ditziness attractive at all
Naru is just way hotter

The artist deliberately stated he made them look alike. And I said they don't have the same hair.

Would you please learn to read.

I would have no problem with the "female beating up MC" trope if both she and the MC were hotblooded martial artists who sparred with each other all the time.

The issue here is how it's implemented. It's true that Urusei Yatsura started a lot of this, and Love Hina was probably trying to copy it, but it works much better in Urusei Yatsura because 1) Ataru actually is an ass and deserves to get punished, and 2) the overall tone of the series is much more cartoonish, so it doesn't seem as out of place to see slapstick.

Love Hina started the trend of shoving the bad slapstick into every romance manga which lasted for a decade afterward, and while Lum can be seen as a Tsundere it was still Love Hina that codified the character as an archetype, and that ever hack has been trying to copy since.

Basically, the issue is that Urusei Yatsura wasn't a romance manga, it was just comedy. The fact that these terrible people were forming terrible relationships with each other was part of the joke, you weren't really supposed to root for any of the girls. Love Hina is the series that applied these conventions to romance manga, thus bringing about the horrid age of darkness that was the 2000's for romance manga.

It's a bit like how Alfred Nobel created TNT as a mining tool and was later horrified when it was appropriated as a weapon. Takahashi created these relationships for the sake of comedy, and now has to live with them being presented as legitimately romantic.

This is like saying Gohan looks like Goku
It's the facial expressions that form the look of the character not their stock design you autist

Mutsumi has an ara ara personality so she always has an ara ara face which I don't find appealing in the slightest

Naru has more of a range of facial expressions which make her more attractive to me

Do you finally get it?

>watch anime for the first time
Mutsumi best girl

>watch OVAs
Kanako best girl

>read manga
Motoko best girl

You're forgetting Inuyasha by the same author
Kagome is a huge annoying bitch who always tells Inuyasha to "sit" and he has that pendant around him which makes it happen

>Motoko best girl
Mein negro

He always ends up in situations where he's either seeing her naked or grabbing her tit, but he's not a bad person otherwise so it's hard to stay mad at him. It's just bad writing. Negima was a bit better all around.

It's perfectly fine if you find bitchiness attractive, but now you're just incorrect. Mustumi has a much broader emotional range than Naru, who bounces between insincere affection with men like Kentaro and Seta to unjustified hatred of Keitaro. She doesn't even have normal emotions, and Akamatsu genuinely made anime worse by making such a terrible tsundere mainstream.

Inuyasha was an arrogant dick that often brought his misfortune down on himself. His case is entirely different from a completely benevolent person like Keitaro.

Yeah, Takahashi's later track record leads one to believe that she wouldn't quite have the reaction that Nobel did, but it doesn't really change the fact none of the relationships in Urusei Yatsura were presented as actually healthy or romantic, and none of the characters were presented as being good people. That's really the core issue, at least regarding the use of slapstick comedy in what is supposed to be a romance.

That and the tone. Seeing Lum electrocute Ataru is a bit like watching Bugs Bunny blow up Elmer Fudd. Seeing Naru punch Keitaro is a bit like seeing a woman on the street randomly punch out her boyfriend.

>It's perfectly fine if you find bitchiness attractive
It's not that
I like Naru's normal serious/mature expressions(like when she's serious about studying and stuff)...her mad or slightly irritated face and all can be fun but that's not my preference


>Mustumi has a much broader emotional range than Naru
Fuck no, you're delusional
She has a bout as much of an emotional/facial expression range as fucking Mitsune

She almost always has that dumb Ara Ara face going on

>Motoko worst girl

This.

Naru either has resting bitch face or an expression of unjustified selfrighteous rage. Mutsumi is generally happy, but ranges from sleepy and bored, to mad, to visibly heartbroken all in the space of one plot arc. Naru is a one trick pony, and that trick is her bitchyness.

She was my first Ara Ara

You mean Ranma? It's still bad even then.

>Naru either has resting bitch face or an expression of unjustified selfrighteous rage.
Have you even read the manga?
Because her default face is more of a confident face(which is why I find her so attractive...she's brimming with confidence)

If she didn't punch Keitaro and simply yelled at him I think most people wouldn't hate Naru that much

In fact the one thing I hate about Naru is when she doesn't go visit Keitaro at the hospital because he recently told her he loved her and she didn't know how to respond. Hated that wishy-washy attitude...it was not the right time for that at all

So which ones had superpowers?
Motoko obviously. Naru had her super strength and Keitaro his super resistance to her punches. Kaolla was super intelligent, what about the others?

Takahashi really just can't write likable characters. She's great when she's writing assholes, hence why Urusei Yatsura is her best work, but when she tries to make good people it gives the impression that she's only ever known complete asses.

>find volumes at the library as a 12-year-old
>fap to memories of the covers
>eventually get the balls to borrow the series
>no one ever fucks, no bare tits

Kanako was a ninja, the rest were normal human beings.

>she's brimming with confidence
>wishy-washy attitude

This is what I don't get. What makes you think she has both? The 'brimming with confidence' she puts up is just a transparent act, same as freaking Asuka. No, that wouldn't be bad if they didn't mistreat people who genuinely and unconditionally care for them. Keitaro wouldn't treat Naru any differently if she actually rejected him instead of stringing him along for the length of a series, because he's equally good to everyone, and the mistreatment Naru heaps on him is unjustified. Literally no one has issues with justified acts of violence. Unjustified acts of violence are committed by a class of people generally known as 'criminals'.

Tama is best girl. Prove me wrong.

I hated Shinobu with a passion. Most boring character, her arc was bad, her motivation too. Shouldn't have stayed at the Inn.

>not looking up "love hina boobs" on the family computer when mom and dad were asleep and hope the dialup didn't wake them
>not printing out a couple pictures to keep hidden under your mattress
Man, you weren't very good at being smart.

but you're not wrong.

So true

Examples required.

I met the author at a convention and wanted to ask if the reason he didn't draw nipples because he couldn't draw them or because it was an editorial decision.

The convention didn't allow me ask it.
It's an awful Harem series like said.

Not really; Aerith was far more proactive than Mutsumi.

>Inuyasha was an arrogant dick

Not nearly as much as Kouga.

>The 'brimming with confidence' she puts up is just a transparent act
No it isn't
She's confident in her studies
She doesn't start trembling like Keitaro when she enters the exams for example

I don't know about Asuka but Naru doesn't really know Keitaro loves her for most of the series and they constantly fight anyways.

I don't see how she strings Keitaro along. They just happen to live in the same inn and if anything it's Keitaro who keeps going after her and she has no clue he feels that way for her for most of the series

It's just when that happens and she avoids confronting him when she's annoying

How do you know it's a girl?

>She's confident in her studies
She's confident about literally one thing, in a slice of life series

>Naru doesn't really know Keitaro loves her for most of the series
Yes she does. Their first date is in the first season.

Fuck no
Fuck Kagome, she was a mega bitch

Yes she was. That's the point. They were both assholes, especially to each other.

Keitaro did not have an unkind bone in his body, and only Suu, Shinobu, and Mutsumi saw that. And of those 3, only Mustumi is of dating age.

That's more than fucking Keitaro
There's people out there that aren't confident in anything

>first season
Are you fucking kidding me?
Manga doesn't have seasons and the Anime doesn't have 2 or more seasons either so what are you talking about?
Am I being baited here?

Anyways
She doesn't know he loves her and she often gets jealous(like when Mutsumi kisses him)

Inuyasha wasn't an asshole to her at all so that's false

>Keitaro did not have an unkind bone in his body, and only Suu, Shinobu, and Mutsumi saw that.
>implying that Mitsune didn't know Keitaro was a pathetic innocent virgin

I didn't need to remember that garbage.

Their first date is the amusement park episode you dingus.

And her getting jealous when a superior woman who's secure in her feelings moves in on the man is her own fault.

fuck you that game was amazing