Give me one good reason why you're not Nazbol and still believe in the capitalism spook. Just be honest with yourself...

Give me one good reason why you're not Nazbol and still believe in the capitalism spook. Just be honest with yourself, capitalism is failing and destroying our race. Let go of the brainwashing, the American Dream is dead and those days are over. It's time for a change.

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National Socialism isn't apitalist. Why do you feel the need to say you are a National Bolshevik?

white marxism doesn't make marxism valid fuck off

My dick is not deformed

you can't. there's no reason to support capitalism other than 'fuck socialists'

This. Why does /leftypol/ always come here claiming we support capitalism? We support a third position.

gang gang

Someone redpill me on nazbol. I'm under the impression that it's just a meme.

/leftpol/ thinks they can convert us to marxism if they make vaguely anti-Semitic posts

I support a more workers based National Socialism, closer to Strasserism or National Bolshevism.

I think nazbols are just confused natsocs.

It is

Nope it is a real ideology with a real party in Russia.

digits and hivemind confirm my point.

>Two contradictions is a valid political ideology

>Give me one good reason why you're not Nazbol and still believe in the capitalism spook.

because you destroyed Europe

because i'm not a crying emo liberal faggot drowning in tears each time a nigger walks by.

because i dont want authoritarian rule.

because i dont presume to speak for other people, or force other people to think in certain ways to cement the rule of the rich like you retards do.

fucking commies. dumb subhumans are destined to be sent to the work camps again. no wonder jews controlled you retards like it was nothing.

College aged liberals tend to have this viewpoint until they get their first paycheck and look at how much the government takes out to support medicare and social security.
Also sage

Those meme parties exist to fill the electoral gap of вaтник's and homo sovieticus.

1) Memeideology
2) Russian nazbol party leader Limonov in 70s sucked nigger's dicks in NYC

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communism and capitalism are both kike inventions

>Russia
russia is no longer communist you dumb fuck. besides you guy shill for globalization, so what is it, communism or mercantilism

they are both contradictory ideologies to each other, chose one you retards

You don't understand what Nazbol is.

Bolshevism is perpetuated and kept alive only by dinosaurs and by people who have never worked.

it was banned

>It's time for a change.
and you have the picture of a gun.. how patheticallly false.

pic related is communism, not the antifa-faggotism you guys pretend it is.

see the picture, that is your future. That is communism. I know, some of my family lived through that shit.

Can we assemble 15 republics and the whole Warsaw pact here?

>it was banned
Kek

because in communism/socialism, means of production are owned collectively, and labor theory of value says everyone gets stuff equal to their labor......

meaning, a horse pulling a cart should be a trillionaire in this society, because a horse is performing tons of labor

socialist/communist gold miners would all have the same amount of gold too, doesnt even fucking matter group x is digging trough a goldmine, and group y is digging in their back yard where there is no gold, both groups are performing the same labor, therefore both groups deserve the same amount of gold

this is quite frankly the worst interpretation i have ever seen, and labour theory isnt even good anyway.

>Scope on a ak
>Not a collimator

Donbass guys are strange.

Kek

Jewish bankers control your Canuckistan.

Because if all property is held in common, then it will be used up. Also, the species of state capitalism practiced in city-states like Singapore, Hong Kong, and Monaco seems to produce excellent standards of living.

You are a meme puppet state that is tossed back and forth between Russia and Germany.

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>Because if all property is held in common, then it will be used up
Thats ignoring the material conditions for socialism
>Also, the species of state capitalism practiced in city-states like Singapore, Hong Kong, and Monaco seems to produce excellent standards of living.
Think really hard about those states, they have a lot in common, and are very much in unusual positions.

Uma delicia.

We wuz kangdom n sheit my dear meme friend, you should brush up that Hegelian dialect and unleash the true power of historical materialism.

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>look at me im a nazi but my symbol is all fucked up lol
lol

how is my interpretation wrong?

The CPSU was "banned" but is still out and about.

because thats literally not the labour theory of value

...and why not? that is labor theory of value, all value is directly proportional to labor, there is no smart labor or efficient labor or effective labor, there is only labor and nothing else

should you ever go into considering about smart or cost efficient labor or idk, you would basically come up with supply and demand, investment and financing, debts, credits and currencies, you know, modern capitalist economy, and you would have banks and corporations going around buying and selling things and trying to develop more efficient way of doing things all over again

have you literally even read up on the LTV, cos its all explained in like the first chapter of Das Kapital

Nazbol is axumaron as is.
Only persons woth internal mind contraversion can accept this achisoprenical ideology.
If you socialist, you are idealist, but naive, if you nazi, you are totaly dumb, but if you are nazbol, you are schisophrenical untermenchen.

bruv its not a conversation if you keep dodging the question, can you even explain your own shit or are you just full of excuses for not explaining your shit, aka full of shit, or what is the deal with you?

also, i can go to a capitalist hamburger shop and get a hamburger for 2 dollars, what can i get from a socialist shop, or a thing or whatever, does that thing even exist, does it even provide any goods and services, can it even compete with capitalism, why is capitalism outproducing everything else?

What are you?

A Yeltsinist cunt?

LTV operates by the average aggregate of all work being used to determine the value of something, and as soon as the means of production improve on something old technologies become less efficient, and so has less effect on the average labour time and thus value, eventually becoming phased out .So if you have an iPhone factory and can churn out 1000 phones and hour you would have more effect on the value of an iphone than one dude who makes everything by hand.

>Be honest with yourself
>And agree with my ideology
No thanks, I think for myself, and I don't like kool-aids

go back being an unemployed marxist faggot in your leftypol containment chamber

so, basically, innovating on my products would make my products less valuable, because they can now be produced more easily or with less labor........

so why on earth would any sane man ever improve efficiency of his work, when such effort , when such huge mental effort, would just devalue his work????

as i said none of this shit makes any basic economic sense

because efficiency means that you can get more things. People like having things, and so they want a lot of things for less, so by being more efficient people can have more things for less, a drive which will always continue as people continually try to get as much as they possibly can for as little effort as possible. Which means constant innovation is desirable.

yeah sure but technological innovation is a hard and mentally painful thing to do, why the fuck should I bother with it, when i can just masturbate all day instead? some other person, who is not me, is going to innovate the work, and I am going to benefit from his efficiency just as if I innovated it myself

so basically instead of innovating, it makes more sense to masturbate whole day
yeah sure innovation is desirable, but why would I innovate anything when who ever innovates and achieves efficiency, he has to give the fruits of his labor, cheaper goods, to me anyway

or people in communist society very quickly figure this out, and hide all of their innovations and efficient working from the fellow communists, and pretend that they cant produce things efficiently, and get away with contributing far less by pretending that is all they can contribute, and keep the extras for themselves, hidden from everyone else?

Except that you have to work or else you will die of starvation probably, until post-scarcity (i.e it takes zero labour to produce most things) people will expect you to work, however it being socialism working "for profit" is pointless as there is no profit. Instead you should just choose a field of work that you enjoy, the field that you would want to work in if money was no object. The only way you wouldnt work is if you had no passions or interests, in which case you are basically just a really depressed flesh robot. Before this stage however you will still have to work in order to have things, which mean that the faster you innovate the faster you can stop working, so sitting on your arse waiting for others to do so is literally just wasting your own life, so instead of "lol commies btfo" you are just spending your life doing nothing and being nothing, becoming deeply unfulfilled and miserable, so really you are the only one losing.

>people do not work for profit, people work for joy, people pick their field of study and work out of love
>i pick a field of super model fucking as fucking supermodels is my passion
>specialize in fucking supermodels on a beach while eating caviar and drinking cocktails
>that other guy picked underwater basket weaving
>third guy picked arts
>we are all laboring super hard in these fields/industries
>but no one wants to clean the sewage, because cleaning sewage is no one's passion
>no one wants to invest labor in sewage cleaning because you get paid the same for fucking supermodels and cleaning sewage, you expend same labor and sweat cleaning sewage and fucking supermodels, so you go for supermodels every time

>>>the system eventually collapses because no one wants to clean sewage, or any other unpleasant job
and so you start calculating all over again
if its unpleasant, what is the bonus for doing it?
supply and demand, investment, credit, currency, capital, basic economics, capitalism...

the whole point is that the "unpleasant jobs" get done via automation, which innovation is critical for achieving, leaving people free to choose what they want.

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>if only we had magical automation to solve all our problems, we wouldnt have any problems
ok
fine
sure
i agree

but what if, like, you know, i mean, ugh, i think, you know, like, we dont have this magical automation that will solve everyone's problems instantly and magically?
have you actually automate anything? have you figured out the logistics? the electricity required to automate everything for everyone? raw materials? prototypes? margins of error?

man, you start doing real life stuff in real world, you run into limitations, your resources arent unlimited, you have to choose between x and y, so you start creating priorities, hierarchies of what is more important, what is less important, who is more important, etc etc etc

thats where things like free education and uni come in, as increasing the number of people going through education increases the rate of innovation simply by sheer numbers alone. Education is key to innovation, its literally the only way to get it. And by doing this you can develop new technologies that will negate the problems of scarcity, helping to usher in post-scarcity.

can i get a run down on nazbol beliefs

capitalism is unnationalistic. There ya go

>Nazibol
There's no such thing you fucktard larper. GTFO

we don't have jewish bankers faggot. We just have a slightly cucked liberal party.
They are fucking ruined with socialism, so your fucking stupid faggot idea obviously wouldnt fix that.
Only fucking NEETs like socialism in any way, go be successful you fucking loser piece of shit.

but reality, facts, situation on the ground is such that we have more kids then schools, and we just cant put all the kids in the schools, professor cant teach a thousand member class and test them efficiently
same with hospitals, trained surgeons do not fall from the skies, doctors dont grow on trees, there is only x amount of doctors, and x^x^x of patients

i swear, it is like you are not familiar with the concept of time, and finite resources, like you do not understand that time isnt waiting for you to develop magic automation, and that resources arent magically plentiful either

in order to get shit done, you gotta have priorities, you gotta figure out what is more important, what is less important, you gotta put people and things in their place, and you have to end up with income inequality and capitalism

confused slavs, or basically commies that thing culture/race is real and important
hitler was a national socialist, these people are social nationalists
>but what is the difference
there is none, confused college students making shit up

So strasserism?

socialism, communism, Marxism, Bolshevism. its all basically the same. Designed so losers don't lose as hard and winners don't get to win. Fucking kill yourself

>can i get a run down on nazbol beliefs
1. use black to kill whites in America

2. create false white nationalist groups (Alt-Right) to cause this, and fight the EU
dominance.

3. Pay Bannon to buy 8/pol/ and shill all over 4ch

4. Push for EurAsianism (why don't you have an Asian girlfriend Sup Forums?)

5. China pumps millions into Alt-Right to shut down Trump through false flags. Associating him with fake white nationalism.

6. Zionism (to secure themselves from Jewish attacks)

7. Control all oil and gas in the middle east and push America out of all regions.

8. Conver ebil nazi Sup Forums to civic nationalism

9. BRICS usury international bank (Rothschild invested) to compete with American money (oil usury based FED).

>capitalism is unnationalistic. There ya go
(((Alt-Right))) trying to dumb down Sup Forums.
>It's just anti-capitalist goy!

>we don't have jewish bankers faggot.
All central banks are Jewish banks

they'd be almost 6 and 6.5 respectively if they didnt have all the shit hanging out of their faces and such bad ideas.
Too bad people can get abortions and don't die in childbirth anymore, i imagine these whores would be dead 3 times over.

The facts are, that funding is continually cut from hospitals and schools so that taxes can be lowered. The facts are that huge numbers of foreign nurses and doctors are brought in because its cheaper to get someone from another country than make your own. The facts are that teachers and emergency service workers and doctors and stuff are woefully underpaid because its cheaper. The "priorities" of capitalism, are not the same ones that people have, we do not need investment bankers, we need teachers and doctors, however the financial sector is continually getting richer and the public services are always struggling to get by. "What is important" in capitalism is simply how much money you can make off something, and as such basic services and education are paid less than things that we actually need, all because people dont like taxes. Capitalism warps real priorities in favour of monetary ones

*and as such basic services and education are paid less than things that we dont actually need,

tbqh this famalam

look it up, all canadian banks were started by canadians, we dont have the same amount of fuckery as almost every other country in the world.

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bc not a faggot jew cuck like you.
go to sleep (((spencer))) i know its you.

also shouldn't you say something Russian? instead of Portuguese you piece of shit?
did you think that would make you sound trendy and cool? go larp with antifa some more

"ANTI FACISTA IM A FAGGIA
Cocks are Uma Delicia"

you fucking marx niggers can't stay consistent for ten seconds

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But nothing is stopping you from donating all your money to schools and hospitals. You are simply going to run out of money. That is all what is going to happen. Resources ARE limited. We have TOO MANY humans of unequal productivity here on Earth.

You want to help everyone with your wishful thinking and happy thoughts, which is why when I ask you what have you done today to help anyone, you will say that you did nothing and helped no one. Capitalism on the other hand has its priorities set, its has some logic, some mathematics, some point based system in place.
You are not being smart or good or whatever because you want to help people with OTHER people's money that you didnt earn. Wanting to redistribute wealth doesnt help anyone. Creating wealth helps. Redistributing it from productive people doesnt.

There is no "we" and there are no "our" needs. If I worked hard to buy myself a blowjob, I dont care that you think I should donate my money to a hospital. In capitalism, no one is preventing you from figuring your own shit out and making your own mega corporation and earning mad cash and then donating it all to the hospitals or whatever. Stay away from my cash. I will probably murder you for it, as will any other working class man. This is why working class joins the right. To keep the "noble" bandits from robbing them violently to donate to hospitals. I will pay a hospital when I need a hospital.

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>in the capitalism spook. Just be honest with yourself, capitalism is failing and destroying our race.
this is a bait post, but for anyone who was thinking of spreading the information read here, nazbol is an ideology literally built on maintaining "spooks" such as race, just one thing that gave it away.

you just jerked yourself in a circle with your various explanations.

Also every commie is nothing because everyone is equal and theres alot of nothings in society.

fuck off and get bit by a snake faggot

youre arguing with a complete retard. Where is the motivation to create the automation if no one wants to go to school for 10 years to learn how when they could literally make the same money as a babysitter.

>But nothing is stopping you from donating all your money to schools and hospitals. You are simply going to run out of money. That is all what is going to happen.
The thing stopping me from donating money is the inefficiency of the act. I give them all my money, I am now broke and it barely changes the health system. Both of us lose. We need a significant restructuring of the economic system, not charity.
>Resources ARE limited
Only technically, in reality there are many ways to make our consumption and waste habits more efficient, and the idea of a circular economy is gaining momentum, an economy where there is no waste, and as much as possible things are recycled, and everything taken directly from the earth is renewable.
>You want to help everyone with your wishful thinking and happy thoughts, which is why when I ask you what have you done today to help anyone, you will say that you did nothing and helped no one. Capitalism on the other hand has its priorities set, its has some logic, some mathematics, some point based system in place.
Its a fucking terrible system of priorities, that fetishises profit, at the expense of the people who actually make the goods and services possible. Its what commies mean when they say "capitalism is full on contradictions" in that capitalism continually extracts wealth from the bottom to give to the top, despite the fact the the people at the bottom are the people that actually create things of value.
>Creating wealth helps. Redistributing it from productive people doesnt.
Productivity in capitalism is just accumulating money, not actually making anything. Thats the problem.

this is fucking stupid, Unless you get paid a full wage to go to university then why would you bother. you make the same wage regardless you fucking asshole.
And if you get paid to go to school then everyone would just go to school and fuck the dog doing fuck all all day and getting drunk for 20 years.

once again. Charity is inefficient, in that it is unreliable and cannot provide the resources necessary for the running of large public service networks, also asking for charity in capitalism is asking people to go against the values of the system itself, which seems like a stupid thing to do.

you can go into a field that you enjoy and spend your life contributing to society in a way that you find meaningful.
>And if you get paid to go to school then everyone would just go to school and fuck the dog doing fuck all all day and getting drunk for 20 years.
No they dont, because people want to create a meaning for their lives and pursue their passions and make a difference.

Because I'm neither a nazi nor a commie.

anarchists need to go.

>in reality there are many ways to make our consumption and waste habits more efficient
Your system only works when you start saying "ill just use these things that dont exist! i mean duh"
Thats such a fucking stupid argument.
Also if you dont such you can have a completely comfortable life right now in a capitolist system, sure there are some super rich people, but if youre jealous youll never be super rich then youre an asshole.
Its very fucking easy to become upper middle class and anyone who thinks we have to change the whole system because theyre jealous of billionaires is a fucking loser burden on society

I fucking guarantee you make 30k a year or less to have these ridiculous notions. Get your life together instead of living in imagination fiction land. Holy fuck dude

>Case 1 - Fascism:
Imagine a bullet factory owned by the state, national workers manufacturing bullets for use of the own state army, police and population and to sell in the world market. All profit goes directly to the state pocket, say to give woman benefits for having children. Workers rights enforced by the very own state that they vote for.


>Case 2 - Capitalism:
Imagine a bullet factory owned by some jew elite, mutt workers because they are cheaper, manufacturing bullets to sell them to the state army, police and population and in the world market. All profit goes to the jew pocket and a small % to the state as taxes. The state has to cater the tax plan so it doesn't scare the jew off to pack up and build the factory in china and leave all it's workers on unemployment being paid by the state. Workers rights enforced by the very own state that they vote for but very often sidelined by the jew administration to maximize manufacturing without any thought for it's workers, those who disagree get replaced.


>Case 3 - Socialism:
This shit we are living today, subversive capitalism while unemployed shits get more incentive to stay unemployed and burden even more the white man with responsibility and spine.
fuck you

>Your system only works when you start saying "ill just use these things that dont exist! i mean duh"
Except that either the methods do exist, or are likely to exist in the near future, and legislation and restructuring of economic conditions are fairly good at changing cultural habits with consumption.

Thats bullshit. What do you do?

People like to enjoy their jobs but most people main priority is making money so the rest of their life outside of work is enjoyable. Sometimes you find woodworking hobbyists and shit who do extra work for fun but you have to give your fucking head a shake if you think thats anything but a couple percent of the population.
What do you do for a living

>Also if you dont such you can have a completely comfortable life right now in a capitolist system, sure there are some super rich people, but if youre jealous youll never be super rich then youre an asshole.
Its very fucking easy to become upper middle class and anyone who thinks we have to change the whole system because theyre jealous of billionaires is a fucking loser burden on society
Cucktastic powers activate. Lick that boot boy