Am I the only who thinks it is counterproductive to the cause to be calling non-whites shitskins, niggers, apes...

Am I the only who thinks it is counterproductive to the cause to be calling non-whites shitskins, niggers, apes, mongrels etc? Or calling all women stupid or inferior?

Sure, it's funny to joke about this stuff. However, doesn't it reinforce the idea in the anti-white's mind that we are nothing more than just "hateful" , "bigoted", "racists" when we do this? Wouldn't that make them more violent to us than they already are?

Wouldn't we have a better chance of actually reaching the ethnostate in our lifetime if we are respectful and diplomatic with non-whites? Being respectful to other races is not cuckoldry. When you put other races priorities before yours because of guilt , inferiority complex, or "diversity" , that to me is cuckoldry.


>inb4 fuck off %56 face
I'm white. I make it a point not to associate with non-whites unless I have to, and when I do, unless they attack me for being white , I show them a minimal amount of respect because we are all representatives of the white/aryan race. Sure, they may be jealous and resent us. They have been (((engineered))) to think this way but that's not their fault. we should go after the Virus, not the host of the virus, if you will. If we continue to use slurs like nigger and shitskin towards non-whites I feel like that damages our cause. we run the risk of being less and less white of a country if we just come off as "bigoted computer nerd racists".

>inb4 "gee i wonder who could be behind this post"
No. Doesn't The Jew wants the White man to be known for being nothing more than a hateful jealous bigot? Are we not playing right into the hands of ZOG by doing this?

Just my opinion and sure maybe I'm missing something and I'm completely wrong. Just asking questions. something for you to think about user....

tl;dr: I think attacking non-whites with racial slurs, even anonymously online hurts the white nationalist movement all around the world much much more than it helps.

You're right. But most stormfags are just "hateful" , "bigoted", "racists" so your point will fall on deaf ears.

Historical examples have shown us that the majority of people aren't convinced by arguments anyway, and furthermore we will be discredited by the media regardless of what we say or do at this point.
Also:
>redditspacing
>tl;dr
This is just too obvious.

Optics obviously matter when trying to appeal to the wider public and anyone who tries to say otherwise is just a shill trying to undermine the movement. Which is why we need to fucking gas the wannabe German larpers in the US. Because whether you fucking like it or not the general public ignores whatever we have to say if one of you faggots shows up with Nazi shit use Americana you absolute faggot. But in places like Sup Forums we can say whatever we want. But when trying to actually organize in meatspace locally you have to ton down the memes to draw in fence sitting conservatives and slowly red pill them.

Does anyone here actually talk like they do in real life?

I know what you mean, but if only they could understand that they're contributing to the problem they complain about.
obvious what? I'm not from fucking reddit lol

Sup Forums is satire

Yeah, podcasts like daily shoah, you can hear nigger and kike said very often. which yeah, makes me suspicious of them being CO

>Sure, it's funny to joke about this stuff. However, doesn't it reinforce the idea in the anti-white's mind that we are nothing more than just "hateful" , "bigoted", "racists" when we do this? Wouldn't that make them more violent to us than they already are?
>in the anti-white's mind

They are already anti-white...

There are contexts where being pc is good.
On here though, our goal should be to awaken people to the fact that we see the same thing they do. That they are not crazy to see niggers and think they don't belong in our society.

Here we see the truth: That society is a war with many fronts... And your side is either winning or losing.

>Normies can't into Sup Forums: the post

OP is a nigger lover. You're on the wrong board gaylord

Optics are almost %90 of the game. If someone is not somewhat physically fit, I don't think they should go out in public and represent white nationalism. makes us all look like cheeto crumb neckbeards , third reich Larpers

>calling someone nigger lover whilst using nigger-tier logic

Nigger is a powerful word and I don't think we should stop using it completely, using it in the company of white folks can be very effective red-pilling

How will get anywhere when we have people like pic related being one of our "intellectuals"

That's why they killed George Lincoln Rockwell. The blacks actually AGREED with him, and he said we didn't need to shit talk other races to be proud of our own.
The whole Nazi thing is a Jewish meme. The National Socialist were not racist, they just wanted their own state.

Well, here's what i think: The fact that niggers and muslims get mad at us for speaking isn't something we should care about at all. Antagonizing minorities is good for the growth of white nationalism.

What we should care about is crafting a message that will effectively reach whites who don't already agree with us. That's the only target demographic we need to convince. Everything about how we talk should service that end alone.

Antagonizing minorities and making them not feel welcome is good for growth, I agree. My point is I think we should just be careful not to come off as "close-minded basement dwellers stuck in the past" when doing this.
Good point, thanks user.

Only Sup Forums could have an existential crisis over the word "nigger"

Dont overthink, nigger.

It’s the fucking internet and it’s fucking Sup Forums. Go die if you don’t like free speech.

Where is the existential crisis? This is not about the word nigger. I post this because I care for the future of white people and want to do what i can do help
Thanks leafnigger, I'll try not to
Yes and the Internet and Sup Forums are great tools to shape the way people think in real life and bring about real change. How did you discern me not liking free speech from this post , user? that's not what this is about

>My point is I think we should just be careful not to come off as "close-minded basement dwellers stuck in the past" when doing this.
Totally agree with you here.

On Sup Forums, however, we have no chance of organizing the way people talk. there's no chance of removing the word nigger from the lexicon here.

What is best for us to do is to advocate that people promote this way of thinking: That our job is to convince other whites of our position.... and to indicate that being an edgy faggot generally doesn't accomplish that.

Reminder for all PR faggots like you. The overton window has been shifted because of what we say and do on the Internet. That's the battlefield, not the streets. Cucks like you always overstep your bounds and compromise too much

>doyouknowwhereweare.jpg

I do but sometimes mostly around niggers

The whole “women are inferior” thing is nonsense. It’s just the opposite side of the feminist coin. Women and men each have their own value to society. Women create children, while men build and organize a society that allows them to do this safely. Society functions most efficiently when each gender fulfills their role. Neither gender is better than the other. They can each do things the other can not. Feminism was created solely to turn white women and men against each other. Never forget this. Do not fall for the trap. We love women, and it is our duty to save them from feminism.

>New Zealand
>implying anyone gives a fuck about what you think

Yes rockwell had the right idea.... we know that based on how successful he was. R-right?

I am a reasonable man. I only wish to genocide the kikes.

What am I compromising with? I am asking questions. I said that these are just my opinions and I could be wrong. I post this in the interest of whites and whites only. Do you not see the irony in your post? You're talking like a nigger yourself

As soon as you can get Hollywood to stop depicting whites as evil and overlords of everything that deserve to be annihilated, sure. Stop being a fucking Faggot

No it's counterproductive to act like a cuck. This shouldn't even be an issue if it were not for the weakness of the boomers who pissed away everything we once had. Names are the least they should be worried about and that it is an issue at all only shows how far we have fallen.

>Implying i give a fuck about your faggoty asshurt.

Also, I don’t think we should go around calling people nigger - but I do think that here on Sup Forums, calling blacks niggers does help people break free from their PC chains. I consider it a necessary evil.

non-white here. Cultural jamming is the best bet, and following that up with the veneration of your people. Life and society will redpill more and more normie whites. Being rude and or intense will only turn-off whites.

>calling someone a faggot online for giving opinions and asking constructive questions for the interest of growing the white nationalist movement
this is exactly the backwards thinking I'm talking about

I think you misunderstand, cause you think there's only the extremes, either an autistic sperg that says nigger to every black man he sees or the "totally reasonable and smart racist". You just come off as conceited, snarky, and a cuck who overcompromises with the latter. Being smart, well mannered, or well spoken just come with being well versed in the arguments, ideology, and knowledge. Rockwell may have "failed", but that's cause the Internet wasn't around. Guess what, we're branding swastikas and have millions of newfags come here.

Nigger is a really great word and even niggers agree considering how much they use it. No reason to stop using it and certainly not before they do.

1) It does not matter if you are respectful or diplomatic with most non-whites. Such civilities are just wasted on them. They view it as weakness not as an olive branch.

2) Calling all women inferior and stupid is hurting us. There is a reason why women generally avoid our cause. We would have far more females if we focus less on MGTOW and more on traditionalism.

3) Not associating with non-whites is no longer an option. We are running out of places to run. Areas that were okay when I was a child are now overrun by non-whites.

4) The Jews don't care about the title. They care about the power such a title holds. If we as a race do not care about racism, the jews can't use it against us.

5) The bigger reason for not using racial slurs is to come off as more polite and intelligent to other whites. There is a reason why the left fears people like Richard Spencer. They destroy the narrative of the bigotry belonging to the low iq trailer trash.

No, rockwell didn't understand the whole picture. STRENGTH is just one way of convincing people.

If you want to win this war, you need to employ every possible method available.

strength is a good virtue, but it isn't enough.

The surge in popularity of Sup Forums has nothing to do with rockwell types... it has to do with the trump phenomenon. The overton window shift was many things, but also laregely related to the trump phenomenon. Many newfags are now being exposed to this place, the number of them that we are able to convince of our position depends on how well we are able to sell it.

Do you really think there is going to be a peaceful outcome here? Dont be so nieve. Violence is what they know. Planet of the apes is the future if we don't deal with it soon.

Trumptard types came here cause of the edgy nazi memes or they felt something was wrong. Quite trying to dilute the message. Imageboards have never been about easy to swallow pills

Even if there will be violence, we want to maximize the number of people fighting for us, rather than against us.

As shitty as it is, as long as women have the vote, we need to get white women on our side if we want them to put their voting power toward white interests instead of toward "marginalized, anti-straight, white male" interests. If race-realist, white ethnostate types keep being forward about seeing women as inferior to men, deserving of a limited role and no "freedom", white women will keep voting for the "muh oppressed classes" parties and policies.

We, for better or worse, need to affirm the importance and value of white women in order to get them on board. In the end, we can confine this to affirming their value in the kitchen and making white babies, but at first, we need to assert it unequivocally.

And no, I'm not saying for people to act like trashy skinheads. I just don't want them to be the "moderate racist" types I see too often. Quality over quantity here. Normalfags ruin everything they touch

>Trumptard types came here cause of the edgy nazi memes or they felt something was wrong.

There were edgy nazi memes when romney was running. Same with McCain.

Trump lead a movement of being anti-pc. That's what drove the popularity of nazi memes.

sage, op is faggot also, all who dont sage are faggots, all races stay away from my personal space

>They view it as weakness not as an olive branch.
This is a good point. However I'm not talking about "oh look , a black person, let me make sure I show them respect and smile at them and make them feel welcome". I ignore them as much as I can because I don't want them to feel welcome where I live. However, if someone has a job that they don't want to lose, and there is a non-white co-worker who is helpful and friendly, how does one approach the situation? Treating them like shit?
This. despite there being some white women who openly say nigger etc, most white women are turned off by this language. even if they're not coal burners, it only sends them towards feminism and "evil white male" meme

>Treating them like shit?
starting to think this is the answer

>all races stay away
lol so you don't even want white people in your personal space?

The best thing that happened in battering down the appeal of feminism was the highlighting and shaming of the "crazy, fat feminist."

The thing that will always batter down you guys is when people high light and shame the "crazy, fat racist."

t. non-white

1) Never bring politics to work. If your job is to do A, than A is what you do. As long as they do not give you a hard time, keep your grievances off the clock.

2) Note the word "most". There are some minorities that actually understand niceties. Just don't get buddy-buddy with them. It will make it harder for yourself later.

3) Politeness may be lost on non-whites but it is not lost on the white observer. The observers are the ones that you have to convince your ideas to. Observers are more likely to listen and believe a calm, peaceful and rational person.

I agree with this 100% and wish there were some kind of website or centralized group for people who agree.

George Lincoln Rockwell didn't use "nigger" or other terms in public speeches, and most smart Alt-Right figures don't either. It's bad strategy. It doesn't win allies and just makes enemies.

Yeah, the people doing that are larping.
They don't care about Victory.

Of course you are absolutely right, but you are coming here to Sup Forums of all places to put forward your argument. Why not write a paper for VDARE or AmRen instead. There will always be the large unwashed masses of Whites that make up the bottom half of our IQ bell curve. They will cling to more simplistic ideology that they can wrap their head around. We need them to do the actual grunt work. But people intelligent enough need to take positions of leadership in the movement.

Well put

well put

pol is a board of peace

it doesn't matter. no one cares about the browning of the US except for bugers

Despite what most will say your more or less right, even Hitler was not walking around spouting racial slurs, he wanted each race to uplift itself to the highest it can be, we should be trying to rally people under the idea of TRUE anti racism, instead of homogenization you have racial pride for ALL races, and in the end each race would go back to their own countries to ideally flourish, but America is a white country, founded by white people, for white people.

You're technically right OP.

It helps newfags realize they are part of a race/tribe unless they are a mong. If they actually came to read books and learn from oldfags, then they'll realize it's all part of the bantz but we do want to protect our cultures and racial purity. And there are several different methods that could be explored to preserve these things, but we as a whole (all races) are being pitted against each other so we never actually get to have that conversation.
>some of us just want to be amongst others like ourselves.

Now you are just lying.

This.
Sup Forums is a board of peace. If you think something is hateful or bigoted you're misinterpreting the message.
Also #notallpolacks